When Viki says "He was my father..." I absolutely LOVE the look in Dorian's eyes when she says "He was my husband!" Like, "don't you see? He betrayed us both!"
@zdiversable Viki doesn't officially change personalities until Part 4. Tommy comes out and throws Dorian down the stars. Then Jean takes over, puts Dorian in the trunk of the car and prepares for "damage control". Throughout parts 1 through 3, she's still Viki.
@spinnerNsports Actually, if you are paying close attention, the other alter begins to emerge in Part 3. That's how it usually happens. The writting is factual. They were right on track with this storyline.
@zdiversable When Dorian starts to reveal to Viki that her father sexually abused her as a young girl, Viki begins to "shatter" mentally and emotionally. The preparation for the other alters to come out starts to begin. However, an alter (first Tommy, then Jean) doesn't officially take over her body until part 4. Viki is still in control throughout part 3. It's just that at this point she's becoming mentally fragile upon hearing Dorian reveal the secrets.
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Why would the writers make Jessica suffer from DID after having already written this? Jess, Tess, Bess, etc. only serve to cheapen the quality of this storyline, which is far superior.
@heula1 Yes why would they make Jess, Tess and Bess that was the most horrible storyline and remember way before then Megan viki' s other daughter had DiD to her alter was called Ruby.
The man who founded Boy Scouts was a pillar in his community, his adult daughter a former Miss America came out he raped her constantly. So Victor would have not only raped Vicki, but Tina's mothet
I swear to God there was a scene in which Victor Lord emerged out of Viki and was moving to rape Jessica, and that's when Viki was able to break through and stop him, and finally went to the crypt and admitted to the whole family how sick she was. Then she started therapy. Does anyone have that scene?
@jase1010 You're right. 'Victor' was warning Victoria (after a confrontation with David) and Erin Torpey's Jessica came into the room. Victor shouted at her "GET OUT!" Then he changed and calmly reached out.."Jessica" Then VIKI: "NO! DON'T YOU DARE LAY ONE HAND ON MY DAUGHTER!"
A perfect marriage of acting, writing, and directing. Michael Malone wrote this show with the same integrity and respect he devotes to his novels, an amazing feat. Every one of Viki's personalities is showcased in this scene, though they wouldn't be named or explained until much later. If this were a prime time series, it would make sense, since viewers could watch reruns and see the progression of the sotry. To devote the same attention to detail to a daytime serial is mind-boggling.
7 years, when it first happened. I believe it may have continued until he died, which would partially explain why Dorian doesn't like Viki: Her husband cheated on her with Viki. But I'm just speculating, I doubt it.
No, her personalities did it for her. First, it was Nikki Smith. Then, Princess. Viki created Niki because she liked sex. She created Princess to experience it. She created Jean to protect her and be a mother to her. She created Tommy to be her older brother and Tori to be like her older sister. And I have no clue as to why she recreated Victor Lord!
Victor was the sucidial aspect of Viki's personality. VL was manifested by Viki because his legacy would be destroyed if she revealed his crimes. VL always warned Viki when she as a child she would be punished if she told anyone about him raping her, so Viki created a personality who would carry out that threat. Often, DID patients create a personality of their attacker. A scene between Viki & Todd resulted in VL coming out when Todd wanted to know what VL did to be considered such a monster.
No Viki doesn't like Dorian because she always thought that Viki had voted in favor of her being fired as a doctor from Llanview hospital when infact Viki voted for her to stay. And Viki never liked Dorian because she believed Dorian killed Victor.
Viki, honey, for once in her life, Dorian IS telling the truth. Victor Lord was an amoral piece of filth. He did you harm, the worst kind of harm any piece of garbage could ever do to a child; and he deserves to burn in hell for all the crap he did to you.
Viki blocked the door when she arrived as Dorian tried to leave. She "asked" for it! But that's what makes them great actress's. Feel pity for one and anger towards the other.
I've always loved that no matter how much hatred was between Viki and Dorian, Dorian always had a protective sense over Viki when it came to Victor's dastardly deeds
I sensed some Miki at the door too, and before her complete split, I see some Tommy, Jean, Princess, and a bit of Tori (the Persona of Victor Lord was yet to come).
I know it's TV, but Viki is clearly coming apart at the seams and Dorian just keeps at it. What in the world possessed Dorian to do this herself? She should've called for help from *someone*, or everyone, by about two-thirds of the way through this clip.
The thing about this story is that it all BUILT to this point, every stressor in Viki's life, Dorian, David, Joey, Tina, Sloan, everything. It was brilliant TV and the reveal deepened Dorian and Viki's relationship-Dorian had protected her all along at the expense of herself. When Viki says "my father never...forced me," it is bonechilling.
Even though Dorian can be vicious and scheming; in this case, she was terribly accurate on this situation. In a way, Dorian did Viki a favor by telling her the awful truth. Victor committed a horrid crime to his daughter and he burns in hades to this day!
That stupid Mitch Laurence/"Victor Is Alive and Needs a Heart" story was the biggest shark jump this side of the Fonz! Moving as far away from that as possible, it's interesting seeing these for the first time in 12 years and now analyzing which personalities were present during the "confrontation". I sense a little Niki at the door when Vike first comes in.
There's room for interpretation. But I think Slezak's method was that she was throwing out the beginnings of the ''fragmentation'' - her dismantling - throughout the scenes. It was as if each persona was ''stretching'' or ''pushing'' its way out of Viki's barriers, intermittently, during the confrontation. But it wasn't until Tommy's appearance that the outright SPLIT, or division, took place. Genius.
i have to agree. I think you can even see the beginning of her fragmenting way back right after Sloan died. I remember a scene with her and Larry where she did not seem quite like herself and more like Jean. Slezak is just incredible!
Personally, and I never do this, but I ignore that storyline. It was poorly written and never explained. Victor's alive. He never talks to his wife, he comes and dies. It's stupid and underdeveloped.
He's good and dead for NOW. If a new head writer comes in, they could do this Victor Lord thing again. I Love it when Viki and Dorian fight over Voctor, but it's kinda weird when he's there!
there is a clip on here from 1985 when dorian first showed viki the secret room,even then when dorian would mention anything concerning victor's perverse nature viki could not stand to here.then the old bastard was not even dead he was living in some big farm complex waiting for a heart transplant
I think you're right Central, in clip 1... I stated how Viki wasn't herself when you arrived at Dorian's... I think that was Tori, near the stairs before Bo arrives it was Tommy, after Bo leaves its Jean and in the study it was Princess.
I don't think she was Tori when she came in. Tori and Dorian would have been sitting there agreeing about what a bastard Victor was and plotting how to go and blow up his masoleum - LOL! She was Viki when she came in. Tori was the one who like to burn up all of Victor's stuff; such as Llanfair, The Banner, etc.
Dorian going to be soooooo sorry.
MrCraigblaze 4 days ago
When Viki says "He was my father..." I absolutely LOVE the look in Dorian's eyes when she says "He was my husband!" Like, "don't you see? He betrayed us both!"
themirrorsofmymind 2 months ago
at 3:40 another personality. That one seems childlike. I'm gonna see if I can distinguish and count the different personalities. This is fun!
zdiversable 6 months ago
@zdiversable Viki doesn't officially change personalities until Part 4. Tommy comes out and throws Dorian down the stars. Then Jean takes over, puts Dorian in the trunk of the car and prepares for "damage control". Throughout parts 1 through 3, she's still Viki.
spinnerNsports 2 months ago
@spinnerNsports Actually, if you are paying close attention, the other alter begins to emerge in Part 3. That's how it usually happens. The writting is factual. They were right on track with this storyline.
zdiversable 2 months ago
@zdiversable When Dorian starts to reveal to Viki that her father sexually abused her as a young girl, Viki begins to "shatter" mentally and emotionally. The preparation for the other alters to come out starts to begin. However, an alter (first Tommy, then Jean) doesn't officially take over her body until part 4. Viki is still in control throughout part 3. It's just that at this point she's becoming mentally fragile upon hearing Dorian reveal the secrets.
spinnerNsports 2 months ago
@spinnerNsports Actually, if you pay close attention, you will notice that her alters begins to emerge in Part 3.
zdiversable 2 months ago
@zdiversable her name was princess
madonnabdfan1 1 month ago
at 2:42 You can see Vickie's personality change. ES isa wonderful actress.
zdiversable 6 months ago
dorian was horrid but what excellent acting
Llanfairny 7 months ago
i just hate how they keep making viki hav the intergrating faces....but nothing comes out
lilreese240 7 months ago
I would Like to see Natalie have a personality
Pinkranger87 10 months ago 3
@Pinkranger87 Yeah, just so the alter can be called "Kat" ;)
brinpol 9 months ago 2
i loved magan,she was awsome
bigger4life 10 months ago
shes gonna lose ur mind
bigger4life 10 months ago
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there getting rid of this show fans we need to fight back by wrting letters to abc get the address of google it can work if u know the show Game they where actually off the air and brought back by fans lets not wait til they are off the air lets do it now #truefans
fashion1392 10 months ago
How do we know that Victor didn't try hurt Meredith in the SAME HENIOUS GROUTECH way he hurt Victoria
ManTexDal 1 year ago
Why would the writers make Jessica suffer from DID after having already written this? Jess, Tess, Bess, etc. only serve to cheapen the quality of this storyline, which is far superior.
heula1 1 year ago 2
@heula1 Yes why would they make Jess, Tess and Bess that was the most horrible storyline and remember way before then Megan viki' s other daughter had DiD to her alter was called Ruby.
carrielovejoy 1 year ago
@carrielovejoy and Wes. Jessica was raped that's why
madonnabdfan1 1 month ago
The man who founded Boy Scouts was a pillar in his community, his adult daughter a former Miss America came out he raped her constantly. So Victor would have not only raped Vicki, but Tina's mothet
ldyreal 2 years ago
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I don't believe victor raped her he was a lot of things but a rapist uhuh, nope
pollydore 2 years ago
That is the point - who would ever suspect him?
TRAVISJAMES03 2 years ago
this how DID storyline was done
Pinkranger87 2 years ago 3
This is superb stuff, fabulous writing and acting.
CarlD2 2 years ago 2
This IS daytime writing and acting at its best!
HawkgirlAndHerMase 3 years ago 6
yeah and these kind of s/l are a thing of the past OLTL has lost its identity.
corrinecurry 3 years ago 3
you see each of them but mostly this is princess
Pinkranger87 3 years ago
I swear to God there was a scene in which Victor Lord emerged out of Viki and was moving to rape Jessica, and that's when Viki was able to break through and stop him, and finally went to the crypt and admitted to the whole family how sick she was. Then she started therapy. Does anyone have that scene?
jase1010 3 years ago
if know anyone who has those secnes
Pinkranger87 3 years ago
@jase1010 You're right. 'Victor' was warning Victoria (after a confrontation with David) and Erin Torpey's Jessica came into the room. Victor shouted at her "GET OUT!" Then he changed and calmly reached out.."Jessica" Then VIKI: "NO! DON'T YOU DARE LAY ONE HAND ON MY DAUGHTER!"
themirrorsofmymind 2 months ago
i thought vitor raped Doria too and niki killed victor with a pillow
JGirl007 3 years ago
Victor never raped Dorian and it was Tori that killed Victor.
TRAVISJAMES03 3 years ago
this is the best scene ever, when dorian hugged viki when she realized she repressed all the memories and did not know the tears fell so fast.
toony826 3 years ago 4
This the first time I've ever seen this and it was powerful.
joyhoneycutt 3 years ago 2
A perfect marriage of acting, writing, and directing. Michael Malone wrote this show with the same integrity and respect he devotes to his novels, an amazing feat. Every one of Viki's personalities is showcased in this scene, though they wouldn't be named or explained until much later. If this were a prime time series, it would make sense, since viewers could watch reruns and see the progression of the sotry. To devote the same attention to detail to a daytime serial is mind-boggling.
cwbweeks 3 years ago 3
how old was vicik when her father raped her?????
wasntbad 3 years ago
7 years, when it first happened. I believe it may have continued until he died, which would partially explain why Dorian doesn't like Viki: Her husband cheated on her with Viki. But I'm just speculating, I doubt it.
bmf1706 3 years ago
omg Ew...hold up viki didnt kno that was her father or something?...how the hell she kept doing her father for that long?.EwEwEwEwEwEw!
wasntbad 3 years ago
No, her personalities did it for her. First, it was Nikki Smith. Then, Princess. Viki created Niki because she liked sex. She created Princess to experience it. She created Jean to protect her and be a mother to her. She created Tommy to be her older brother and Tori to be like her older sister. And I have no clue as to why she recreated Victor Lord!
bmf1706 3 years ago
"victor lord"!wow.....but thinks for the info:)
wasntbad 3 years ago
Actually Princess is supose to be Viki at 7. She was created when Viki began to remember the rape
Kevindl1985 3 years ago
Victor was the sucidial aspect of Viki's personality. VL was manifested by Viki because his legacy would be destroyed if she revealed his crimes. VL always warned Viki when she as a child she would be punished if she told anyone about him raping her, so Viki created a personality who would carry out that threat. Often, DID patients create a personality of their attacker. A scene between Viki & Todd resulted in VL coming out when Todd wanted to know what VL did to be considered such a monster.
priorpast1 3 years ago 3
@priorpast1 Yep. This is what you type in to find it "From '95: OLTL "Viki faces the truth" 3of25 "
SolidRockTelevision 1 year ago
If thats how Viki created her alters then is that kind of the same way Jessica created Tess and Bess?
chrisrocket66 3 years ago
yes, Tess, Bess (Less, Wess, Ness, Kess, Zess, or whoever else is in there.)
bmf1706 3 years ago
@bmf1706 ironic wes came out in 10 and 11
madonnabdfan1 1 month ago
No Viki doesn't like Dorian because she always thought that Viki had voted in favor of her being fired as a doctor from Llanview hospital when infact Viki voted for her to stay. And Viki never liked Dorian because she believed Dorian killed Victor.
Kevindl1985 3 years ago
She was all of seven years old when that amoral bastard of a father of her's raped her!
AlbieGray 2 years ago 5
Viki, honey, for once in her life, Dorian IS telling the truth. Victor Lord was an amoral piece of filth. He did you harm, the worst kind of harm any piece of garbage could ever do to a child; and he deserves to burn in hell for all the crap he did to you.
AlbieGray 3 years ago 2
I don't really like how harsh Dorian was. It's like at times she feels bad at others she wants to throw it at her.
Bridget421 3 years ago
Viki blocked the door when she arrived as Dorian tried to leave. She "asked" for it! But that's what makes them great actress's. Feel pity for one and anger towards the other.
jess4metoo 3 years ago
These scenes are just sensational... they get me everytime, even all these years later.
abcsoaps55 3 years ago 3
I hate that they made Victor a monster. He started off such a good character. However, it did bring out some fantastic acting from these two women.
dkphoenix05 3 years ago 3
I've always loved that no matter how much hatred was between Viki and Dorian, Dorian always had a protective sense over Viki when it came to Victor's dastardly deeds
miggy25 3 years ago 24
I always wondered how Dorian saw herself when it came to Viki and Victor: Protective Stepmother (as shown here), rival, friend...
bmf1706 3 years ago
OMG, this has got to be the pinticle of daytime drama.
PRNeneChulo 3 years ago 5
this episode should have gone primetime. Amazing drama.
AdArmand 4 years ago 17
I sensed some Miki at the door too, and before her complete split, I see some Tommy, Jean, Princess, and a bit of Tori (the Persona of Victor Lord was yet to come).
TRAVISJAMES03 4 years ago
I know it's TV, but Viki is clearly coming apart at the seams and Dorian just keeps at it. What in the world possessed Dorian to do this herself? She should've called for help from *someone*, or everyone, by about two-thirds of the way through this clip.
heddalee 4 years ago 3
Why would she, she doesn't like Viki?
dopestar6666 4 years ago
She doesn't hate Viki, either.
heddalee 4 years ago
Ya but she's so conniving that she certainly doesn't give a damn about Viki!
dopestar6666 4 years ago
more Vikki please!!!! and her alternates from 1995.. Please peefcy
peefcy 4 years ago 2
The thing about this story is that it all BUILT to this point, every stressor in Viki's life, Dorian, David, Joey, Tina, Sloan, everything. It was brilliant TV and the reveal deepened Dorian and Viki's relationship-Dorian had protected her all along at the expense of herself. When Viki says "my father never...forced me," it is bonechilling.
bsjt 4 years ago 3
Even though Dorian can be vicious and scheming; in this case, she was terribly accurate on this situation. In a way, Dorian did Viki a favor by telling her the awful truth. Victor committed a horrid crime to his daughter and he burns in hades to this day!
AlbieGray 4 years ago 6
Ya, but he might come back! I doubt it.
dopestar6666 4 years ago
That stupid Mitch Laurence/"Victor Is Alive and Needs a Heart" story was the biggest shark jump this side of the Fonz! Moving as far away from that as possible, it's interesting seeing these for the first time in 12 years and now analyzing which personalities were present during the "confrontation". I sense a little Niki at the door when Vike first comes in.
GenXorcist1976 4 years ago 2
There's room for interpretation. But I think Slezak's method was that she was throwing out the beginnings of the ''fragmentation'' - her dismantling - throughout the scenes. It was as if each persona was ''stretching'' or ''pushing'' its way out of Viki's barriers, intermittently, during the confrontation. But it wasn't until Tommy's appearance that the outright SPLIT, or division, took place. Genius.
WhenenRome 4 years ago 4
i have to agree. I think you can even see the beginning of her fragmenting way back right after Sloan died. I remember a scene with her and Larry where she did not seem quite like herself and more like Jean. Slezak is just incredible!
dereka79 4 years ago 2
i liked victor returning from the dead but they should have keeped him around to interact with todd/dorian/viki then have someone murder him
travis082185 4 years ago
Personally, and I never do this, but I ignore that storyline. It was poorly written and never explained. Victor's alive. He never talks to his wife, he comes and dies. It's stupid and underdeveloped.
bmf1706 3 years ago
I should say I ignore the 2003 storyline, not this Storyline...I LOVED this storyline...
bmf1706 3 years ago
thanks for clarifying it. Well, now Victor is dead for good and all.
AlbieGray 3 years ago
He's good and dead for NOW. If a new head writer comes in, they could do this Victor Lord thing again. I Love it when Viki and Dorian fight over Voctor, but it's kinda weird when he's there!
bmf1706 3 years ago
there is a clip on here from 1985 when dorian first showed viki the secret room,even then when dorian would mention anything concerning victor's perverse nature viki could not stand to here.then the old bastard was not even dead he was living in some big farm complex waiting for a heart transplant
kwolek1979 4 years ago
i love the twist that Dorian had actually been *protecting* Viki all those years!
timmytickles 4 years ago 5
another amazingly beautiful performance by viki and dorian
sheshe21488 5 years ago
I think you're right Central, in clip 1... I stated how Viki wasn't herself when you arrived at Dorian's... I think that was Tori, near the stairs before Bo arrives it was Tommy, after Bo leaves its Jean and in the study it was Princess.
ClassicLoverA 5 years ago 2
I don't think she was Tori when she came in. Tori and Dorian would have been sitting there agreeing about what a bastard Victor was and plotting how to go and blow up his masoleum - LOL! She was Viki when she came in. Tori was the one who like to burn up all of Victor's stuff; such as Llanfair, The Banner, etc.
fwdthinker 5 years ago
i think that all her personalites came out just a little bit
Central85 5 years ago
It's interesting that Dorian would say that he "seduced" Viki. She was 7 at the time. That was straight-up RAPE!
fwdthinker 5 years ago 3
May Victor Lord ROT! For what he did to his seven year old daughter, no room in hell would be hot enough, that betrayal is absolutely despicable!
AlbieGray 5 years ago
He is also a fictional character.
WhenenRome 4 years ago