Vortech 02 Mustang GT vs Kenne Bell 03 Mustang GT vs 02 Z28

[LT1FORMULA6SPEED]

And is the LS1 camaro!!! Motor to motor stock to stock LS1 is the best.....

[slackerm1]

@LT1FORMULA6SPEED

People who compare stock to stock, are ricebags

[Doomcell3]

Why can we all just agree that mustangs and camaros are both beasts? Lol

[HellenKeller9]

@Doomcell3 cuz only one of them is a beast...

[FastNewEdge]

This a awesome vid. To the guy with the V1. I pretty much got the same set up as you. What is your idle set at? Thxs

[slackerm1]

@FastNewEdge

He hasnt had that setup in years now, still has the Vortech though. I dont know what his idle was set at. 850 maybe?

[testy462]

how the hell is that boltons only LS1 keeping up/beating that KB car?  Shouldn't even be close. My 00 GT with blower/cams simply destroyed any boltons only LS1 car out there, time after time.

[slackerm1]

@testy462

Starting in second isnt the best way to make a great showing

[gowrestle160]

kbs arnt bad i have one on stock motor runnin only 6 psi non i/c it runs very well i havent had it dynod but im guessin around 350-370 rwhp whats the one in the video running? vortechs are great too they just perform different the positive displacement blowers are great for low end where ass the centris eat ur ass with theyre top end

[gtracer56]

the vortech has better mod choices in my oppinion the the vortech had the 4.10 gear wich gave him the jump and then the vortech kicked in then the cams so it was kinda mod choices but both cars are bad

[Piperporsche180944]

That Camaro did damn good!

[Dieselboy805]

is a vortech better in the long run then a KB?

[slackerm1]

@Dieselboy805

YES

[TheMrhoneycutt]

@Dieselboy805 A Vortech is better up top than a KB yes, but with a KB the powerband is smooth.

[acekazel]

@Dieselboy805 KB all the way.

[slackerm1]

Long gone lol

[EaFoTre21]

still selling the kenne bell?

[bamaediscoveryman]

Man those prochargers are bad. Personally I don't want to have to rebuild the bottom of my engine so supercharger, roush, it is for me. One day.

[cobra2004t]

y do gts get a lil more power n go get a cobra body kit still never will have bill cower signature on the motor still just a GT JUST GO BUY A COBRA STOP TRYN 2 MAKE 1 CANT CLONE A REAL TERMINATOR ANT GOT THE SEATS

[cobra2004t]

y do gts get a lil more power n go get a cobra body kit still never will have bill cower signature on the motor still just a GT JUST GO BUY A COBRA STOP TRYN 2 MAKE 1 CANT CLONE A REAL TERMINATOR ANT GOT THE SEATS

[wellshii]

man this the second time ive  n/als1's beat s/c stangs.those ls motors are beast for sure.good vid!!

[2115will]

the vortech stang was cammed and had 4.10 gears, thats why it beats the kenne bell

[slackerm1]

@2115will

Not really, the car was detuned, so it wasnt getting much out of the cams.....and the 4.10's werent that great from a roll when it had a lower rev limiter back then.

[2115will]

nice race though.

i just love kenne bell.

[slackerm1]

@2115will

Then buy my 2.2L KB lol

[lancer7610]

what car do you want to buy ?

[slackerm1]

@lancer7610

Maybe another fox......but Im selling a KB 2.2 blower off of a 00 GT right now

[FordsBetter516]

@slackerm1 how much you want for it? i need a KB for my 02 GT

[slackerm1]

@FordsBetter516

I sold it already. Avoid KB if possible. I can think of 6-7 others that have fallen apart around here over the years.

[FordsBetter516]

@slackerm1 oh alright. but the KB is for my car because i plan on upgrading the cams and the block here soon so ill be able to run higher boost. the vortechs are mainly for stock engines if you read more in depth on their sites. and i DONT want a procharger. have heard nothing but bad things from them.

[slackerm1]

@FordsBetter516

KB's suck period. Vortech's are NOT just for stock type motors, if anything, their bigger blowers have wayyyyyy more potential than any KB.

[thecitysitsinflames]

@slackerm1 I looked into getting a KB and then i found out my uncle's friend had one on his gt, and after that he had nothing but problems. Im getting a Vortech for sure. It gives me so much more potential and works like a charm.

[IzZyTX1991]

Ford pwns.

[ponyboygt02]

neither car is a camaro. the car with the camera in it has a rear side window in the first race. camaros dont have windows other than the door window. this is 2 mustangs racing

[07gixxer02]

actually the last two races the camera car is a camaro, look at the dash. definitely has camaro gauges.

[HellenKeller9]

digiam42 is right... don't waste your money on a ford. This video is a perfect reason not to spend money on supercharging a mustang because it barely pulled away from an NA exhaust only LS1.

[slackerm1]

Are you kidding me? He took off from second gear, do you know how much of a bog that is, and with that said, he still got away. It made over 50 rwhp more than the LS1 in question, so power isnt the issue here.

[whesselton]

@ HellenKeller9..."Barely" is still a "W" is it not?

[digiam42]

it dosnt matter what the fuck you drive. If you have enough money, you can make any car fast..period. So buy what you like,spend what you want, but dont bitch when someone has more money than you and outruns you. Someone will always have a faster car than yours because eventually you will find someone with a bigger wallet. Just enjoy what you drive and dont bite off more than you can chew in a race. If you get beat, It dont matter how much was in the other car... You still got beat.

[CobraGuy90]

wow thats pretty sad. that camaro probably had at most $3000 in upgrades and the mustang like $10,000-$15,000 into it and still barley pulled away from the camaro lol. didn't quite expect that

[shauncx1477]

the LS1 also has a 346ci motor compared to the GT's 281.

[CobraGuy90]

yeah i know i own a LS1 camaro and i've also owned a 99 mustang gt also. Camaro is the way to go! (personal preference) but i do love mustangs too. they're great cars. i wish i could afford to have both

[shauncx1477]

Dont get me wrong LS1s are nasty motors, but I hate the comparison of a stock LS1 vs a exhaust 99-04 GT. Thats like comparing a GT to an Elantra. I just like how Mustangs look, and sound, and I like the Mod Motors. But LS1s are badass

[jcrohm88]

the gt is supercharged and lighter, you ford guys always say "dur our motor's smaller dur" you dont realize the difference between the ford's overhead cam motor and chevy's overhead valve motor, the OHC has 2 or 4 cams (2 gt or bullit, 4 mach1 or cobra) that are drivin by a chain, the OHV only has 1 that is drivin by pushrods, OHC's rev higher and make make more horsepower per cubic inch, and once again they need a SUPERCHARGER to compete, idiot

[whesselton]

dur...you sound like a "TARD." Ford just makes better quality engines than GM. dur...OHC vs. OHV (pushrod) old ass technology still used in the new ZR1 together with...guess what? A SUPERCHARGER! dur...go figure!

[jcrohm88]

hahaha dur old ass technology that still smokes fords ohc dur, shut up u fuckin dumbass, atleast u got ohc in ur civic fuckin faggot

[whesselton]

One word to sum you up..."CHODE"

[jcrohm88]

hahaha good one! i hope i'm just like u when I'M 40 hahahahaha

[nick6204]

@jcrohm88 is that why you have all thumbs down next to your name faggot and mustangs are not light they are acually heavy

[swooshonln]

the mustang may have more money into it to be a "little" but faster, but its nowhere near $10,000-$15,000.

and it still won the race. that's all that matters. some people just have more money to spend.

[cooksta3276]

I'm an ex-ricer who finally saw the light, not real smart on stangs yet. Why wouldn't you stroke out a mustang right away, wouldn't you gain like 40-50cid. I also wonder how those 4.10's run every day with a 5 speed, seems like Camaros always run 3.42's or lower and still pull hard, but I think they are 6 speeds right?

[slackerm1]

You only gain 20-21 ci's with a stroker and stock bore, and some of the stroker cars dont run as good, unless they have a bigger head, bigger cams and bigger blower to feed them. The 02 GT is a daily driver with the 4.10's, it has a 28" tall tire though. Most of the LS1 F-Body guys run 4.10's when they swap to a big cam, their .50 6th gear makes them turn really low rpm's on the highway.

[cooksta3276]

Thanks man...yeah my friends z28 SS runs like 1600 on the hwy around 60 surprised it doesn't knock or stall like a 4cyl would under load.

[shauncx1477]

Hey do you know if the Mac Long Tubes have enough clearance to drop the tranny? Most Long Tubes dont, so youd have to yank out the Long Tubes just to do a clutch. Sweet video btw, that vortech GT is killa

[slackerm1]

No, they really dont clear at all, the passenger side one generally has to come out. The Vortech GT in the video is a bit faster now

[billysandals]

well with my bbk long tubes i managed to get the stock transmission out but it would be impossible to go back in. the t45 and tr3650 have an intergrated bellhousing that can't come off when in the car-the bellhousing bolts are on the inside of the bellhousing. good thing the stock trans was busted and i put a tko 500 in. never had to take the lts off though i did scratch some of the ceramic coating.

[cafeevil]

It was meant to be a Naturally Aspirated engine. With that said it would be a wild machine with a 100 or even a 150 shot. Thats a 650+ hp car with no SC/TC. But yeah if you were going to add a SC or a TC then 8:5 would be all you want for a CR.

[cheesemanmichael]

That KB gt desparately needs lower gears

[gitrmustang]

Probably, but it wouldn't have made as big of difference as if they raced from a dig.

[zeppdude]

damn! that camaro rapes. shouldve bought one instead of my 01'GT. oh well...

[grant522229]

goddamn them camaros are fast

[krazycardude]

where are u at? i want to find an xxx motorsports and get a sticker for the back of my car window like that. id put it on my future mustang or camaro.

[renzokata]

u HAVE to have respect for the camaro. this was a bolt on camaro against a supercharged mustang.

[slackerm1]

Yea and it was a classic traction vs power race the first time, the second time the GT started in second from 20, which sucks. You can see it was faster, it made more power, similar weight, but not traction, which is the reason to race and see how things goes.

[bimmerfan08]

what do you guys think of the BMW M3 and M5? Those are some sick nasty sports cars

[rigesone]

those are some very nice looking ponys!

[chevycrazybum]

its hard to beat an all motor LS1 Camaro!

[unauthorizedentry01]

Stop arguing, people...*ALL* muscle is good.

[erikabash]

mustang has a smaller motor and is heavy and low compression and was cheaper and easy to work on

[silver99transam]

To Mustangsvt99. If camaro's suck balls, then explain why it takes a supercharger in a mustang to keep up with a naturally aspirated camaro. Thats kinda what I thought. All really nice cars though

[slackerm1]

I have seen blown LS1's lose to n/a LS1's, so whats your point?

[N20LT4]

It's funny. Your the troll of your own Videos>!

[nickcranfield2008]

they dont some people are just lazy and dont wanna put any work in there car my gt has 435 rwhp and is n/a its all what you do with it but still atleast its not rice ;)

[badausf]

what year gt if its a mod motor let me know how u did this, even with a stroker I haven't heard of a 2v GT going over 330

[cafeevil]

Livernoise designed a new head and with a set of cams and the stock intake (not stroked ) it layed down 435 Fly wheel HP. They stated it was good for another 40 to 50 hp if it was stroked. It was running 11:1 compression ratio.

[badausf]

could you possible make a link to the page. I really want to see these parts

[jivepepper]

Nice vids, Check out my Mustang vids some time.

[richerstanger]

i love mustangs but you have to give credit to the camaros and firebirds.

[mrdragking13]

@richerstanger that's why I own both a camaro and mustang, cause they both are beasts!

[MUSTANGSVT99]

Camaros suck balls

[N20LT4]

Okay Mr. "Recalled" '99 Cobra.

[Junglemonkey1457]

nice gt's ... the bolt-on ls1 kept up better than i expected ....

[erikabash]

bad ass kb gt good job

[itschristorres8]

to bad centri's own

[N20LT4]

Yeah, good job for pulling a "BOLT-ON" LS1 by a car length.

[Mazen189]

ok, these cars are nice, but we really need to start filming during the day, it just makes things a lil more clear.

[slackerm1]

It's more clear on other sites, Youtube compresses it too much

[karelss1]

ls1 the best

[slackerm1]

You should tell NMRA, Drag Radial, 10.5 Outlaw, Top Fuel, NASCAR, the Standing Mile and several other large events, they might disagree ;)

[unclerico004]

your a cock sucker too

[slackerm1]

Wow, big badass across the internet arent you

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[maggie378]

unclerico004- Lets see here, gay oral sex was the first thing that came into your mind, over many other possible insults. I think that speaks volumes. And you did it twice. Play footsie in any bathroom stalls lately?

[unclerico004]

these mustangs suck cock just like you fag

[slackerm1]

STFU, take your ass back to Streetfire with your gay comments

[agc612]

Bolt on GT tearin up a catfish lol.. like always

[unclerico004]

Bolt on LS1 tearin up a supercharged stang lol.. like always

[stang20877]

how about an 03 supercharge cobra ls1 lol like always