I'm puzzled when people are shocked that I've never read an Harry Potter books, and adults who follow the whole 'Twilight' series sort of make me cringe. My mother's read all of them, and she's 59.
@TheCircusSprite I haven't seen much of torchwood. But the one episode I do remember was an alien who had to have sex with human males to feed off their energy, when they ejaculated. Besides being like the plot of a cheesy porn film (which is the reason I haven't watched it since), that doesn't seem to be very kid-friendly. Unless the kids are teenage boys, in which case they did a good job.
@jungsbodyguard Yeah that happened one time and it seems to be the episode that everyone judges the show on. Every show has hit and miss episodes. I agree that particular episode was a definite miss but that was when the show was just starting out. The rest of it is good. Possibly not child friendly younger than say 8 but above that I'd be comfortable letting my kids watch it for sure! It's quite good. I'd recommend not being so quick to judge and watching a little further in...
I love how David brings out the YouTube intellectuals along with the YouTube fuckwits, often side by side, with comments like "you fucking shit nerd" below mine, and TwoTube2's comment at the top, which is perfectly expressed and punctuated... And all the ones in between.
In response to one thing David said, there are some adult programs that children can enjoy too, like the 1995 Pride and Prejudice, although it's more common to find that sort of thing in literature. There are many books written for an adult or general audience that have since been marketed for children too in their own editions, e.g. Huckleberry Finn, Gulliver's Travels, The Hound of the Baskervilles etc.
@darkrid25, there is absolutely no evidence to suggest IQs have fallen in recent years or decades. Your point also lacks logic, since if adults had the same mental and emotional capacity as the children, they would not need to have any special gearing.
@coqmuncher Apologies for not responding sooner. I didn't get any emails showing your reply to my comment. As I mentioned to meaghaniful, I believe I misspoke and that my perception is that our overall level of ignorance has increased, causing us to not live up to the potential our IQ shows. Also, my perception is based upon my experiences in the US. It's very likely that this is not necessarily the case in other countries....
The reason why the focus is on children's programs geared for adults to enjoy instead of the other way is due to the fact that the overall IQ of television viewers has gone down substantially over the last 30 years or more. As such, it simply makes more sense to cater to a younger crowd -- as at least mentally, and in many cases, emotionally, older people fall into that same category today.
@darkridr25 I'm afraid you have your facts wrong there. IQ tests have been proven countless times to be completely inaccurate for measuring intelligence.
And actually, IQ levels have been rising for 100 years. Here's a Wikipedia quote:
"The average IQ scores for many populations have been rising at an average rate of three points per decade since the early 20th century." See also the Flynn effect. The general consensus in the scientific community is that kids are getting smarter.
@meaghaniful Hmm...I'll have to concede on that, as I have no statistical data to back up what I said. Perhaps it would be more accurate to say that the overall level of ignorance has increased...? Meaning that while IQ in and of itself is going up, per your sources, even as such, nobody actually utilizes the potential that our IQ implies we have.
I'm also speaking specifically about Americans, as I base my statements on personal observations here in the USA....
@Dawgz4 Yet it seems to be more childlike with the way 11 is so carefully tailored to be cute yet slightly dorky as to be adorable. It's a paradox. The only sex jokes are of course thanks to River. /:d
@Dawgz4 I enjoyed Doctor Who until Matt Smith. It's a drama/love story now, Rory and that chick-and the baby WTF? Doctor Who never focused that much time on the companions. I think the writers can't write for Matt Smith, so they cover up by switching to the companions and extras like River Song. Not the show I remember. River Song is irrelevant, the Rani was atleast a villian with a history. Matt Smith is okay, but the series is NOT science fiction-in my opinion.
@upallhours9 It's a show with futuristic science and technology, and it's fictional. So if it isn't science-fiction in your opinion, then your opinion of what science-fiction is is flawed. I really don't care too much whether you like the show or not, but it's science-fiction whether you like the show or not.
I hate to disagree with David Mitchell, but here goes (don't hate me!).
It's my opinion that there is no such thing as "kid's TV" or "adult's TV" - only good TV and bad TV. I extend that to all media. Lewis Carroll said something along the lines of "in order to be a man, one must rid themselves of the childish insistence on being 'grown up'"
I can enjoy a BBC Four documentary just as much as I can a well written cartoon. Is it not better that there is less stigma now for the latter?
Sometimes shows are deliberately made to appeal to adults while under the guise of a kid's show. I mean obviously there are no major adult themes, but there are some things you still find enjoyable to watch as you age
I remember I used to watch Dexter's Lab, then stopped watching it for a long while as I got older. Yet when I discovered the show again, I remember it being just as appealing to me as it was back then, only for even MORE reasons that I now actually understood the cleverer themes.
One enjoyable aspect that came from the animation age ghetto is parental schmuck bait to those who don’t understand what I mean I say to you why not sit your kiddies in front of the telly and put a copy of Watership Down in the DVD player and watch the cartoon rabbits Gorge.
Someone take the black and white honeypot idea and run with it, that sounds awesome. Perhaps a red blood splatter on the side to bring the whole dramatic theme together?
Grown ups are consuming children's programs and literature more now than than ever because, I believe, Western culture is becoming increasingly infantile. Another more wide-spread, and I would say insidious, example of this would be the number of adults who still play hours of video games on a daily basis. Most people are shocked when they discover that I read history and philosophy as a leisure activity. What does that say about my culture?
He has some very good points here. I don't like how some TV is degenerating into children's stuff either. Dr Who is too pathetic imo. Used to be good, though.
I don't know if it was aired in England at all, but the American cartoon Animaniacs and to a lesser extent Tiny Toons as well as Pinky and the Brain(which actually may have contained even more references to more educational or contemporary adult humor) was a cartoon for children that was written "for" adults. With their secret hidden 'adults only' jokes hidden amongst the cute goings-on of the cartoons.
Kids' television can be escapism for adults; it's often wonderfully imaginative, features simple stories, entertaining visuals and side-steps a lot of the drama of adulthood. The nostalgia value can't be overlooked either; it's like flicking through an old diary or photo album sometimes - that lovely remembered sense of affection for a universe you'd forgotten. I prefer the trajectory society is going when there is less stigma attached to this kind of childish indulgence.
I usually completely agree with these, but Doctor Who and the Harry Potter books are two franchises I truly believe can be enjoyed by just about anyone.
Tom Baker was Dr Who when I was little. He was fab. The daleks didn't bother me because I lived in a house with stairs, but the cybermen were scary fckrs.
I just assumed adults watched children's shows like Doctor Who so they could engage children in conversations when they hang out at the swings in the park.
sometimes when I scroll down to read the comments and then scroll back up the video has gone.Just a blank white rectangle. It has just happened, and I have to refresh. , but the sound is still fine. Anyone know why?
1:40 'Whereas nowadays a huge amount of stuff seems to be aimed at children, but with the assumption that adults, and not just parents, will consume it too.' Golden snitch in background
@ZetOmega Taken on its own What’s wrong with watching children’s shows, he’s right they are not specifically aimed at adults and we shouldn’t act like they are, but what’s wrong with saying “I except this is a children’s program but it’s good for what it is and I enjoy it”?
Who cares whether or not you agree or disagree with his opinion on the appropriate age for Doctor Who viewing, this is simply in the name of comedy and opinion.
Though I would love to see his reaction to the NEWEST Doctor, a flighty, inarticulate, drunk-seeming idiot with a growing love for killing things and a general lack of any and all dignity.
Ah well, there's always hope for the next regeneration, one of the things I love about the show.
@Girlycard33 Possibly an accident in a lab with specimens of serial killers-the Doctor regenerates into a man fused of Ted Bundy, Albert Fish, Gene Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer with the drunken demeanor of an alcoholic.
Im 40 and never miss the new doctor who, i find the humor funny and alot of joke very clever that my youngest misses it.. Which in my book is great.. Btw keep up the great shows, even if i disagree with you on this one :). Whoops used a smiley face
Actually during the mid/late 70s the producers of Doctor Who did try and make the series more adult by focusing more on horror, and I really don't see why an adult audience can't enjoy a children's program while acknowledging that it's not aimed at them.
I just look at this then look at my little pony friendship is magic, yes, they really did make children's shows better for adults than they used to be :)
I can see what David's saying, but I do think it's possible for children's entertainment to be made accessible to adults (and actually done well instead of being horribly cheesy). Take Horrible Histories for example. The original books were aimed at children and the program is aired on CBBC, but the witty humour and pop culture references are actually genuinely funny for adults and I think the older audience is now almost as large as the younger audience.
This is EXACTLY the sort of stuff I worry about sometimes. What's happened to the juvenilisation of culture nowadays? Do I HAVE to have 30 year olds begging me to watch a cartoon penguin at the movies? Does my adult brother HAVE to have a Bob the Builder CD??
The worst of it is, that even when I tell these people that I am OK that THEY watch and listen to such stuff, they STILL act all furious that I won't. Honestly, I wonder why people of my generation are so utterly puerile. Grow up!!
@jlim2397 yeah, sometimes people i know get a bit too over bothered when i dont wanna watch the new animated feature film about zoo animals or whatever. usually they understand and just go watch it themselves without me...but sometimes they get annoyed that i dont wanna see it. fair enough, i do watch some childish things myself, (im a guy, we hardly ever grow up >_>)...but not as often. theres only a certain amount of childish or childrens entertainment i can tollerate
Doctor Who (warning I am a fan) is perhaps a children's show. But perhaps what we're forgetting is that it was done back in the 1960's, as a show to partly educate children, therefore maybe it was this aim to educate which meant it had a more adult tone and treated its audience in a more adult manner - evolving later to become more of an action/adventure show.
Perhaps, David Mitchell, it is the change in Doctor rather than your age has created the problem?
@Soundfrequency I believe he did a good job justifying his approval of "lol."
Also, all because there is something about someone you like doesn't mean you can't like them. Some of my friends like Lil' Wane, but they're still my friends.
I think its more a case where LOTR, along with most forms of fantasy, are considered amongst the general population to be for children because people assume that children like to use their imagination and adults must watch/read things more closely related to reality. I don't think this should be the case, the Dune novels for example have a lot to say about modern issues, but they are set in a world far from reality, and i'd like to see a child get their head around the complex themes of Dune.
Me and my dad love DW, and I'm not exactly a child.
Also, I would consider The Simpsons to be an adult programme which is accessible to children. I mean for gods sake I learned everything from that show!
I totally agree with the adult book cover thing, man up people if you like it like it proudly! It's not like anyones fooled by the cover anyway we all know you're reading Harry Potter!
To my mind, there is children's entertainment and there is family entertainment. The Wombles would be in the first category and Dr Who in the second. I do agree with him actually that family entertainment could also be adult programmes that are also accessible to children, not just children's programmes that are also accessible to adults. Lord of the Rings would be an example of the former.
I've only ever watched new Doctor Who, not the old show, and in four seasons (at the time I started watching it) I never realized it was meant to be a kid's program. I really thought it was intended for adults. I was actually surprised and somewhat embarrassed when I realized I was watching and enjoying a program intended for children.
I said the same thing about Doctor Who, but thankfully, now they seem to have done exactly what David said they should: make it more adult, get rid of the outwardly childish stuff, and still have it accessible to kids. And surprise surprise, it worked... turns out you don't need cheap gimmicks to get a childrens audience.
Not exactly a kids show, more like young adults, anyone 16 and under would enjoy it completely but teenagers are hardly children these days. However, some people just watch it because it reminds them of a simpler time, where they could sit back and be amazed by something they couldn't comprehend fully. I wish life could be that simple again, it can't but DW can give us a glimpse of that. For me, that's worth watching every possible moment of DW.
I think everyone needs to stop being so damn self-conscious. That goes for people who deny themselves something they'd enjoy but consider beneath them, and the fans of Doctor Who and Star Wars and Transformers who can't admit -- and frantically, desperately deny -- that, yes, if it can be bought on Underoos, bed sheets and bubble bath, it's for kids. So is bubble gum. Accept it. Enjoy it. Be happy.
I wonder what David would think if he learned that the main demographic watching the new My Little Pony series appears to be adult males. Seriously; look it up.
I personally find quite a few things the opposite, like some pixar/dreamwork animated films. Shrek was well written, funny and packed full of cultural references and satire, but bright and colourful enough for the kids to watch it and enjoy it.
Also, I would definitely read my children books that aren't necessarily meant for kids (provided they aren't too profane or have realistic violence). My mother read me stories, which were considered very adult like "The Mists of Avalon," "Beowulf," and "The Odyssey." I also watched more adult films than my cousins were allowed (for them if it wasn't "The Wizard of Oz" nor come from Disney, it was unsuitable) like, "Creep Show," "Stripes," and "Sleeper."
I'm not sure that the new series is specifically targeted as kids. I think it's more like Buffy the Vampire Slayer or the first season and a half of Heroes. It's really aimed at people in their teens and twenties who, for the most part, don't remember the old series (I honestly did not see it until after I watched the new one, and read the miniseries "Doctor Who: The Forgotten"), and have a taste for an heroic, witty, at times moody hero with a female companion who is (usually) attractive.
Doctor Who is great and has always has been (what do you mean Colin Baker?) David is describing the 1st Doctor and possiblly Troughton as well. Pertwee and Baker were very much action Heros and Tom never stoped smiling.
@batmanofni Pertwee was more of an action hero than Baker... or rather, Pertwee was more of an ACTION hero, where as Baker was an action HERO. They had really opposite motives and methods. Baker was driven by compassion and primarily used some clever plan (which almost invariably involved talking an enemy into figurativly shooting themselves in the foot), and was often desirous of relaxation. Pertwee on the other hand was more upfront and driven by a love of action.
it may be marketed to kids, but why is is marketed to kids is an abolute mystery to me. in north america, kids wouldn't be allowed to watch that show.
"adult programme also accessible to children" seems to describe the new doctor who perfectly. neither the old nor the new seems to me to be for children. then again, i'm nor british and never grew up with it.
He's right I used to read the Harry Potter books with adult covers then I realized I am an adult and instead get fucked off my head and get in a good punch up instead. Because clearly adults watching or reading kids stuff is the real evil in society.
Is it right that David Mitchell is in his mid-thirties (36ish?) at the point of making this vid?
He says he watched Dr. Who, as a child, in the seventies. In '79, Mitchell was about 5 years old.
The guy is brilliant and incredibly funny, obviously. But why is he pretending he thinks Dr. Who is, or ever was, intended for an audience of five year olds?
I'm 38, and understand how Mitchell feels about the new Dr. Who. I was a child of the incomparable (sorry, Dr. Who nerds) Tom Baker years.
Doctor Who is NOT a children's show. I have researched it thoroughly and am quite proudly a whovian, a massive fan of the show, though not so mahoosive that my mind is a veritable Doctor Who wikipedia and I got to conventions every year but I have written a rather large piece of fanfiction and wear a tweed jacket, own a sonic screwdriver and think the seventh Doctor to be the best. Doctor Who was commissioned to run between Juke Box Jury and Grand Stand. Both adult and child alike.
I DO consider the new series of Doctor Who an adult program that is also accessible to children. Some of what David is saying is true, but I think he's making a mountain out of a molehill.
meanwhile on the other side of youtube, My Little Pony looms like a great cheerful blob monster come to steamroll you with love and kindness.
BeeAre 4 days ago 2
"with everyone else who's managed to Klingon to a sense of proportion"?
fayili 4 days ago
I'm puzzled when people are shocked that I've never read an Harry Potter books, and adults who follow the whole 'Twilight' series sort of make me cringe. My mother's read all of them, and she's 59.
moonlily1 4 days ago
Nice Harry Potter reference. The HP series aims exactly at this - attracting grown-ups.
radiradev90 5 days ago
Wonder what he thinks of middle aged single virgin men watching My Little Pony...
R33Racer 6 days ago
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jungsbodyguard 1 week ago
Torchwood Is An Adult Program That Is Also Accessible To Children...
TheCircusSprite 1 week ago
@TheCircusSprite I haven't seen much of torchwood. But the one episode I do remember was an alien who had to have sex with human males to feed off their energy, when they ejaculated. Besides being like the plot of a cheesy porn film (which is the reason I haven't watched it since), that doesn't seem to be very kid-friendly. Unless the kids are teenage boys, in which case they did a good job.
jungsbodyguard 1 week ago
@jungsbodyguard Yeah that happened one time and it seems to be the episode that everyone judges the show on. Every show has hit and miss episodes. I agree that particular episode was a definite miss but that was when the show was just starting out. The rest of it is good. Possibly not child friendly younger than say 8 but above that I'd be comfortable letting my kids watch it for sure! It's quite good. I'd recommend not being so quick to judge and watching a little further in...
TheCircusSprite 1 week ago
I haven't watched adult programming since i was a child.
Dootndoo 1 week ago
How good would it be if David caught the golden snitch at 1:41 ...?
lubzbie 1 week ago
A few decades before grandparents are reminiscing My Little Pony, and children watching Ugh Ah Gaa. I hope natural selection does its job well.
ttJinn 1 week ago
I love how David brings out the YouTube intellectuals along with the YouTube fuckwits, often side by side, with comments like "you fucking shit nerd" below mine, and TwoTube2's comment at the top, which is perfectly expressed and punctuated... And all the ones in between.
HanoverianHorse 1 week ago in playlist Series 2
Subtle golden snitch =P.
Lylodile 2 weeks ago
SNITCH!
jessthebulletbill 2 weeks ago
In response to one thing David said, there are some adult programs that children can enjoy too, like the 1995 Pride and Prejudice, although it's more common to find that sort of thing in literature. There are many books written for an adult or general audience that have since been marketed for children too in their own editions, e.g. Huckleberry Finn, Gulliver's Travels, The Hound of the Baskervilles etc.
phoenixfriend 2 weeks ago
@darkrid25, there is absolutely no evidence to suggest IQs have fallen in recent years or decades. Your point also lacks logic, since if adults had the same mental and emotional capacity as the children, they would not need to have any special gearing.
coqmuncher 2 weeks ago
@coqmuncher Apologies for not responding sooner. I didn't get any emails showing your reply to my comment. As I mentioned to meaghaniful, I believe I misspoke and that my perception is that our overall level of ignorance has increased, causing us to not live up to the potential our IQ shows. Also, my perception is based upon my experiences in the US. It's very likely that this is not necessarily the case in other countries....
darkridr25 1 week ago
The reason why the focus is on children's programs geared for adults to enjoy instead of the other way is due to the fact that the overall IQ of television viewers has gone down substantially over the last 30 years or more. As such, it simply makes more sense to cater to a younger crowd -- as at least mentally, and in many cases, emotionally, older people fall into that same category today.
darkridr25 2 weeks ago
@darkridr25 I'm afraid you have your facts wrong there. IQ tests have been proven countless times to be completely inaccurate for measuring intelligence.
And actually, IQ levels have been rising for 100 years. Here's a Wikipedia quote:
"The average IQ scores for many populations have been rising at an average rate of three points per decade since the early 20th century." See also the Flynn effect. The general consensus in the scientific community is that kids are getting smarter.
meaghaniful 1 week ago
@meaghaniful Hmm...I'll have to concede on that, as I have no statistical data to back up what I said. Perhaps it would be more accurate to say that the overall level of ignorance has increased...? Meaning that while IQ in and of itself is going up, per your sources, even as such, nobody actually utilizes the potential that our IQ implies we have.
I'm also speaking specifically about Americans, as I base my statements on personal observations here in the USA....
darkridr25 1 week ago
I like how he said "cling on" to proportion! All I could hear was "Klingon" lol
MrTylerJosiah 2 weeks ago
Probably because the only time a lot of parents can spend with their children is when they're watching TV.
kirscheatmidnight 3 weeks ago
I feel like Doctor who is starting to get aimed at an older audience. Especially with the sex jokes
Dawgz4 3 weeks ago
@Dawgz4 Yet it seems to be more childlike with the way 11 is so carefully tailored to be cute yet slightly dorky as to be adorable. It's a paradox. The only sex jokes are of course thanks to River. /:d
LokianEule 3 weeks ago
@Dawgz4 I enjoyed Doctor Who until Matt Smith. It's a drama/love story now, Rory and that chick-and the baby WTF? Doctor Who never focused that much time on the companions. I think the writers can't write for Matt Smith, so they cover up by switching to the companions and extras like River Song. Not the show I remember. River Song is irrelevant, the Rani was atleast a villian with a history. Matt Smith is okay, but the series is NOT science fiction-in my opinion.
upallhours9 3 weeks ago
@upallhours9 It's a show with futuristic science and technology, and it's fictional. So if it isn't science-fiction in your opinion, then your opinion of what science-fiction is is flawed. I really don't care too much whether you like the show or not, but it's science-fiction whether you like the show or not.
Dawgz4 3 weeks ago
I hate to disagree with David Mitchell, but here goes (don't hate me!).
It's my opinion that there is no such thing as "kid's TV" or "adult's TV" - only good TV and bad TV. I extend that to all media. Lewis Carroll said something along the lines of "in order to be a man, one must rid themselves of the childish insistence on being 'grown up'"
I can enjoy a BBC Four documentary just as much as I can a well written cartoon. Is it not better that there is less stigma now for the latter?
bored0stiff 3 weeks ago 2
Shame DR who is and always has been awful
theomega616 4 weeks ago
@theomega616
No.
Lord1Doctor 3 weeks ago
@Lord1Doctor Yes
theomega616 2 weeks ago
@theomega616
I strongly disagree.
Lord1Doctor 2 weeks ago
@Lord1Doctor I strongly don't care.
You're welcome to like a show that has had the same ending for every episode since it's pilot but I like variety in my shows.
theomega616 2 weeks ago
A moody black and white picture of an empty honey pot :'D
superalexo 1 month ago
Sometimes shows are deliberately made to appeal to adults while under the guise of a kid's show. I mean obviously there are no major adult themes, but there are some things you still find enjoyable to watch as you age
I remember I used to watch Dexter's Lab, then stopped watching it for a long while as I got older. Yet when I discovered the show again, I remember it being just as appealing to me as it was back then, only for even MORE reasons that I now actually understood the cleverer themes.
IAmCaptainMarvel 1 month ago
One enjoyable aspect that came from the animation age ghetto is parental schmuck bait to those who don’t understand what I mean I say to you why not sit your kiddies in front of the telly and put a copy of Watership Down in the DVD player and watch the cartoon rabbits Gorge.
darkblood626 1 month ago
and out pops a snitch :-)
poppylv21 1 month ago
loved the harry potter reverence :D
ultavatar 1 month ago in playlist Series 2
Someone take the black and white honeypot idea and run with it, that sounds awesome. Perhaps a red blood splatter on the side to bring the whole dramatic theme together?
TheRadicalOneNG 1 month ago 8
Grown ups are consuming children's programs and literature more now than than ever because, I believe, Western culture is becoming increasingly infantile. Another more wide-spread, and I would say insidious, example of this would be the number of adults who still play hours of video games on a daily basis. Most people are shocked when they discover that I read history and philosophy as a leisure activity. What does that say about my culture?
jessemaurais 1 month ago
@jessemaurais
It's nice to live in a society where the masses have enough leisure time and profit to actually enjoy some artwork.
Jcolinsol 1 month ago
is he implying that some adults read winnie the pooh and watch doctor who?
BassLiberators 1 month ago
The Winnie the Pooh 'moody adult cover' was hilarious.
Epeolatry1 1 month ago 3
dr who is a kids show? i've never seen it
atlantaaintbraver 2 months ago
He has some very good points here. I don't like how some TV is degenerating into children's stuff either. Dr Who is too pathetic imo. Used to be good, though.
ProtestantsRUs 2 months ago
@ProtestantsRUs I agree. Scroll up to see my comment supporting you.
upallhours9 3 weeks ago
the yogpod thinks the same thing about doctor who...
DazNoobs 2 months ago
I've actually been unable to find a Soapbox video than doesn't contain at least one comment about Doctor Who.
slightlyinsaneFTW 2 months ago
I don't know if it was aired in England at all, but the American cartoon Animaniacs and to a lesser extent Tiny Toons as well as Pinky and the Brain(which actually may have contained even more references to more educational or contemporary adult humor) was a cartoon for children that was written "for" adults. With their secret hidden 'adults only' jokes hidden amongst the cute goings-on of the cartoons.
Just thought I'd mention. O_o
TheBlarggle 3 months ago in playlist Series 2 3
Kids' television can be escapism for adults; it's often wonderfully imaginative, features simple stories, entertaining visuals and side-steps a lot of the drama of adulthood. The nostalgia value can't be overlooked either; it's like flicking through an old diary or photo album sometimes - that lovely remembered sense of affection for a universe you'd forgotten. I prefer the trajectory society is going when there is less stigma attached to this kind of childish indulgence.
TwoTube2 3 months ago 23
@TwoTube2 idiot
Azuresong 2 weeks ago
@Azuresong Troll.
TwoTube2 2 weeks ago
@TwoTube2 go beat off to your pony cartoons you loser
Azuresong 2 weeks ago
@Azuresong As I said. Troll.
TwoTube2 2 weeks ago
@TwoTube2 i bet you got an erection while looking at the background here
Azuresong 2 weeks ago
@Azuresong 你用谷歌翻译本
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Azuresong 2 weeks ago
I usually completely agree with these, but Doctor Who and the Harry Potter books are two franchises I truly believe can be enjoyed by just about anyone.
kerplookie17 3 months ago 3
Tom Baker was Dr Who when I was little. He was fab. The daleks didn't bother me because I lived in a house with stairs, but the cybermen were scary fckrs.
xraycortina 4 months ago
@xraycortina Yes. The others pale in comparison.
upallhours9 3 weeks ago
I just assumed adults watched children's shows like Doctor Who so they could engage children in conversations when they hang out at the swings in the park.
WillShakespeare2007 4 months ago
Hahah Hint at Harry potter in the background there. x)
Xcimeister 4 months ago
"Take that Florence, call yourself a fan!" LOOOOOOOOOL
WhoElseButJamie 4 months ago
sometimes when I scroll down to read the comments and then scroll back up the video has gone.Just a blank white rectangle. It has just happened, and I have to refresh. , but the sound is still fine. Anyone know why?
khasab 4 months ago
1:40 'Whereas nowadays a huge amount of stuff seems to be aimed at children, but with the assumption that adults, and not just parents, will consume it too.' Golden snitch in background
Eoaiyer21987rhei 5 months ago
@Eoaiyer21987rhei Not to mention talking about making a moody, dark "adult" cover.
neos1234125 2 months ago
Mr Mitchell- I would love to lick your brain:)
Hoodinski 5 months ago
It's funny how much this applies to My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.
ZetOmega 5 months ago 72
@ZetOmega Taken on its own What’s wrong with watching children’s shows, he’s right they are not specifically aimed at adults and we shouldn’t act like they are, but what’s wrong with saying “I except this is a children’s program but it’s good for what it is and I enjoy it”?
255ad 4 months ago
@ZetOmega There is no child here who makes me watch mlp i watch it because ponies.
YamiPoyo 3 months ago
@ZetOmega Holy shit, I was just about to comment the exact same thing. XD
evilspaceinvader 1 month ago
@ZetOmega brohoof
aarrum 2 weeks ago
@ZetOmega you fucking nerd shit
Azuresong 2 weeks ago
Conversely, I, Claudius has been my favorite show/movie since I was 12.
RachelHC 5 months ago
When I first saw this I was enraged, but having watched the most recent episode I now sympathise.
qttytn 6 months ago
That have managed to...Klingon...Ey ey ey get it?
ZombiefiedGoat 6 months ago
@MissAnonandon The cad!!
jlim2397 6 months ago
My Little Pony Friendship is Magic
I rest my case.
historymaker118 6 months ago 3
@historymaker118
I was thinking this the entire time...
aburningman 5 months ago
Who:>
dvoraswickle 6 months ago
One approves.
CryptSphinx 6 months ago
@RoastNewt
There's nothing secret about that! :)
johnsmithbsc 6 months ago
I will continue to watch Doctor Who long into my old age. Always.
WildBirdNerd 6 months ago 4
David as the new Doctor and Victoria Coren as his assistant. Sorted.
JoeStunner 6 months ago 2
This wasn't about Dr Who, more the shift in perception in what on TV is "for Kids", "for Adults", and the grey area inbetween.
sussexpenguin 6 months ago
Who cares whether or not you agree or disagree with his opinion on the appropriate age for Doctor Who viewing, this is simply in the name of comedy and opinion.
Though I would love to see his reaction to the NEWEST Doctor, a flighty, inarticulate, drunk-seeming idiot with a growing love for killing things and a general lack of any and all dignity.
Ah well, there's always hope for the next regeneration, one of the things I love about the show.
Girlycard33 6 months ago
@Girlycard33 Possibly an accident in a lab with specimens of serial killers-the Doctor regenerates into a man fused of Ted Bundy, Albert Fish, Gene Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer with the drunken demeanor of an alcoholic.
upallhours9 3 weeks ago
@upallhours9
*snorts* Nicely put, slightly perfect.
Girlycard33 2 weeks ago
Im 40 and never miss the new doctor who, i find the humor funny and alot of joke very clever that my youngest misses it.. Which in my book is great.. Btw keep up the great shows, even if i disagree with you on this one :). Whoops used a smiley face
MrRymax07 7 months ago
Actually during the mid/late 70s the producers of Doctor Who did try and make the series more adult by focusing more on horror, and I really don't see why an adult audience can't enjoy a children's program while acknowledging that it's not aimed at them.
mrchips2301 7 months ago
I'm one of the massive fan's of DW
slightlyinsaneFTW 7 months ago
I just look at this then look at my little pony friendship is magic, yes, they really did make children's shows better for adults than they used to be :)
RagnarokiaNG 7 months ago 2
Take that Florence!
viridismonasteriense 7 months ago
There is loads of Adult for kids stuff, like The Inbetweeners
MegaMrDamo 7 months ago
2:25 - 2:32 says what I am thinking, and what I think is the big mistake with the current Dr. Who.
jdevolanyc 8 months ago
Doctor Who is a childrens program?
earnestbunbury11 8 months ago
My little pony - 'nuff said
davoisakoollord 8 months ago
I can see what David's saying, but I do think it's possible for children's entertainment to be made accessible to adults (and actually done well instead of being horribly cheesy). Take Horrible Histories for example. The original books were aimed at children and the program is aired on CBBC, but the witty humour and pop culture references are actually genuinely funny for adults and I think the older audience is now almost as large as the younger audience.
feckles20 8 months ago 44
@feckles20 Hey Arnold!, My Little Pony, Rugrats, early Spongebob, are just a few examples. Especially Hey Arnold!
XxxxSunsetxxxX 3 months ago
@feckles20 Horrible Histories is now shown on Yesterday, which is a channel aimed at adults (or, at least, not aimed at kids)
UncleKennybobs 1 month ago
@feckles20
I still read Horrible Histories- they're amusing. I'm not bursting with laughter while reading them, but they're entertaining enough.
sciences8 1 month ago
@feckles20 thank you! that makes me feel much better about having downloaded all three series of Horrible Histories!
EmyChanDattebayo 4 weeks ago
This is EXACTLY the sort of stuff I worry about sometimes. What's happened to the juvenilisation of culture nowadays? Do I HAVE to have 30 year olds begging me to watch a cartoon penguin at the movies? Does my adult brother HAVE to have a Bob the Builder CD??
The worst of it is, that even when I tell these people that I am OK that THEY watch and listen to such stuff, they STILL act all furious that I won't. Honestly, I wonder why people of my generation are so utterly puerile. Grow up!!
jlim2397 8 months ago
@jlim2397 yeah, sometimes people i know get a bit too over bothered when i dont wanna watch the new animated feature film about zoo animals or whatever. usually they understand and just go watch it themselves without me...but sometimes they get annoyed that i dont wanna see it. fair enough, i do watch some childish things myself, (im a guy, we hardly ever grow up >_>)...but not as often. theres only a certain amount of childish or childrens entertainment i can tollerate
Amaranthus616 7 months ago
@jlim2397 we are "Grow up" it's not "either or"
255ad 4 months ago
Doctor Who (warning I am a fan) is perhaps a children's show. But perhaps what we're forgetting is that it was done back in the 1960's, as a show to partly educate children, therefore maybe it was this aim to educate which meant it had a more adult tone and treated its audience in a more adult manner - evolving later to become more of an action/adventure show.
Perhaps, David Mitchell, it is the change in Doctor rather than your age has created the problem?
VintageRomana 8 months ago
snice snitch
1tjos 8 months ago
Torchwood.
thatreallygeekyguy 8 months ago
I can't watch these anymore since he said he likes the abbreviation "lol". :<
Soundfrequency 8 months ago
@Soundfrequency I believe he did a good job justifying his approval of "lol."
Also, all because there is something about someone you like doesn't mean you can't like them. Some of my friends like Lil' Wane, but they're still my friends.
pdPOINTnCLICKbq 8 months ago
The daleks were quite laughable but the cybermen were definitely scary. They never got me though, I was safe behind the sofa.
xraycortina 8 months ago
I think its more a case where LOTR, along with most forms of fantasy, are considered amongst the general population to be for children because people assume that children like to use their imagination and adults must watch/read things more closely related to reality. I don't think this should be the case, the Dune novels for example have a lot to say about modern issues, but they are set in a world far from reality, and i'd like to see a child get their head around the complex themes of Dune.
randomsamno9 8 months ago
Me and my dad love DW, and I'm not exactly a child.
Also, I would consider The Simpsons to be an adult programme which is accessible to children. I mean for gods sake I learned everything from that show!
Love the soapbox.
Vinnieification 9 months ago 4
I totally agree with the adult book cover thing, man up people if you like it like it proudly! It's not like anyones fooled by the cover anyway we all know you're reading Harry Potter!
Bookbag85 9 months ago
To my mind, there is children's entertainment and there is family entertainment. The Wombles would be in the first category and Dr Who in the second. I do agree with him actually that family entertainment could also be adult programmes that are also accessible to children, not just children's programmes that are also accessible to adults. Lord of the Rings would be an example of the former.
phoenixfriend 9 months ago
LOL at the Golden Snitch 1:50
rollozan 9 months ago 2
I've only ever watched new Doctor Who, not the old show, and in four seasons (at the time I started watching it) I never realized it was meant to be a kid's program. I really thought it was intended for adults. I was actually surprised and somewhat embarrassed when I realized I was watching and enjoying a program intended for children.
AmariT 9 months ago
@AmariT It is a family show. When it is done well it is interesting to everyone in a family but in different ways.
contempgirl 9 months ago
I said the same thing about Doctor Who, but thankfully, now they seem to have done exactly what David said they should: make it more adult, get rid of the outwardly childish stuff, and still have it accessible to kids. And surprise surprise, it worked... turns out you don't need cheap gimmicks to get a childrens audience.
eratosphenes 9 months ago
DM would be a perfect narrator for Winnie the Pooh
PoisonTester 9 months ago
Dr Who has NEVER been a children's programme.
There are plenty of adult, family programmes.
All of David Attenborough's wildlife programmes are suitable for & loved by even very young kids.
Countdown is very popular with children & even allows them on the show, to compete on equal terms with adult contestants.
I never watch it myself, but there are hours of sport on TV, again adult viewing, watched by kids.
This time he is wrong.
Also, no matter how old you are - The Hoobs are bloody hilarious !
AnElephantsChild 9 months ago
Is anyone else just loving the Famous Five reference?
bookworm266 9 months ago 2
@bookworm266 I know I am :D
spotonigiri 9 months ago
This is a stupid argument. Arguing a point for the sake of it. Children's programs are for children end of.
Elliotgreen91 9 months ago
I wasn't really listening that intently until he mentioned Doctor Who.
Yes, I admit it, I'm a shameless fangirl and I'm currently harbouring a crush on Matt Smith. Deal with it. >:D
imissrose123 9 months ago
@imissrose123 so you were all blurry and unfocussed for the first 8 words he said? also i'm quite comfortable letting you deal with it.
tugnori 9 months ago
@imissrose123 David Mitchell > Matt Smith.
RussellThePumpkin 9 months ago
@RussellThePumpkin Hmm, gonna have to disagree with you on that one. To each their own, I suppose. :)
imissrose123 9 months ago
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@imissrose123 David Mitchell > Matt Smith.
RussellThePumpkin 9 months ago
Doctor Who is a "kids" show?? For real? Man I thought shows like "teletubbies" and "Gullah Gullah Island" where kids shows... Not Doctor Who..
Pattonfrodo 9 months ago
Not exactly a kids show, more like young adults, anyone 16 and under would enjoy it completely but teenagers are hardly children these days. However, some people just watch it because it reminds them of a simpler time, where they could sit back and be amazed by something they couldn't comprehend fully. I wish life could be that simple again, it can't but DW can give us a glimpse of that. For me, that's worth watching every possible moment of DW.
theDarkblitz9 10 months ago
I think everyone needs to stop being so damn self-conscious. That goes for people who deny themselves something they'd enjoy but consider beneath them, and the fans of Doctor Who and Star Wars and Transformers who can't admit -- and frantically, desperately deny -- that, yes, if it can be bought on Underoos, bed sheets and bubble bath, it's for kids. So is bubble gum. Accept it. Enjoy it. Be happy.
ILoooooveCamels 10 months ago
GOLDEN SNITCH! xD
AkiraChan24 10 months ago
press 2 repeatedly
MrBananaPop 10 months ago
I wonder what David would think if he learned that the main demographic watching the new My Little Pony series appears to be adult males. Seriously; look it up.
Faboba 10 months ago
I have only one thing to say and that is STAR WARS. Grow up, stop telling us the director is a sell-out and stop whinging about Ja Ja Binks!
Sarusource 10 months ago
I'm so glad I found the Traction City series of books by Phillip Reeve. Aimed at children but most certainly readable by people of any age.
chiffmonkey 10 months ago
I personally find quite a few things the opposite, like some pixar/dreamwork animated films. Shrek was well written, funny and packed full of cultural references and satire, but bright and colourful enough for the kids to watch it and enjoy it.
ThriceDog 11 months ago
I love David Mitchell. So much
jrjrambo 11 months ago
I have an erection
HomebrandMusic01 11 months ago
you can see him reading the prompter
Vanguard6945 11 months ago
Also, I would definitely read my children books that aren't necessarily meant for kids (provided they aren't too profane or have realistic violence). My mother read me stories, which were considered very adult like "The Mists of Avalon," "Beowulf," and "The Odyssey." I also watched more adult films than my cousins were allowed (for them if it wasn't "The Wizard of Oz" nor come from Disney, it was unsuitable) like, "Creep Show," "Stripes," and "Sleeper."
Jonstern1983 1 year ago
I'm not sure that the new series is specifically targeted as kids. I think it's more like Buffy the Vampire Slayer or the first season and a half of Heroes. It's really aimed at people in their teens and twenties who, for the most part, don't remember the old series (I honestly did not see it until after I watched the new one, and read the miniseries "Doctor Who: The Forgotten"), and have a taste for an heroic, witty, at times moody hero with a female companion who is (usually) attractive.
Jonstern1983 1 year ago
Doctor Who is great and has always has been (what do you mean Colin Baker?) David is describing the 1st Doctor and possiblly Troughton as well. Pertwee and Baker were very much action Heros and Tom never stoped smiling.
batmanofni 1 year ago
@batmanofni Pertwee was more of an action hero than Baker... or rather, Pertwee was more of an ACTION hero, where as Baker was an action HERO. They had really opposite motives and methods. Baker was driven by compassion and primarily used some clever plan (which almost invariably involved talking an enemy into figurativly shooting themselves in the foot), and was often desirous of relaxation. Pertwee on the other hand was more upfront and driven by a love of action.
Jonstern1983 1 year ago
@BuzzBomber
it may be marketed to kids, but why is is marketed to kids is an abolute mystery to me. in north america, kids wouldn't be allowed to watch that show.
neomp5 1 year ago
"adult programme also accessible to children" seems to describe the new doctor who perfectly. neither the old nor the new seems to me to be for children. then again, i'm nor british and never grew up with it.
neomp5 1 year ago
"LIKE" David Mitchell's Soap Box on FaceBook.
If ya want. No pressure. Don't wanna sound like some evil dictator or anything.
NozinAroun81 1 year ago
He's right I used to read the Harry Potter books with adult covers then I realized I am an adult and instead get fucked off my head and get in a good punch up instead. Because clearly adults watching or reading kids stuff is the real evil in society.
WillShakespeare2007 1 year ago
@NuggetsOfTruth so, why would i reply? anyway.
DavithRedway 1 year ago
Take that florence! LOL
monobrow638 1 year ago
/watch?v=hVnomiWEJTY&feature=feedlik
rg8125 1 year ago
David Mitchell for Doctor 12! :-D
Miguelohara563 1 year ago
Is it right that David Mitchell is in his mid-thirties (36ish?) at the point of making this vid?
He says he watched Dr. Who, as a child, in the seventies. In '79, Mitchell was about 5 years old.
The guy is brilliant and incredibly funny, obviously. But why is he pretending he thinks Dr. Who is, or ever was, intended for an audience of five year olds?
I'm 38, and understand how Mitchell feels about the new Dr. Who. I was a child of the incomparable (sorry, Dr. Who nerds) Tom Baker years.
Canaderek 1 year ago
I like the way none of those film adverts are going to actually work on people. If they do, they shouldn't be watching David Mitchell xx
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tyboe15 1 year ago
The World at War.. Probably the best TV documentary ever.
higfny 1 year ago
who the fuck is this queer??
smagmatits 1 year ago
@smagmatits you're clearly not english
walshygel2 1 year ago
i think david would have made a good doctor who.
ec123456789able 1 year ago
love the appearence of the snitch as he begins the rant about children's programmes which are also directed at adults...
Mira0Sekelsky 1 year ago
Anyone notice it's David's opinion?
TheFenrir666 1 year ago
Doctor Who is NOT a children's show. I have researched it thoroughly and am quite proudly a whovian, a massive fan of the show, though not so mahoosive that my mind is a veritable Doctor Who wikipedia and I got to conventions every year but I have written a rather large piece of fanfiction and wear a tweed jacket, own a sonic screwdriver and think the seventh Doctor to be the best. Doctor Who was commissioned to run between Juke Box Jury and Grand Stand. Both adult and child alike.
farshnuke 1 year ago
Why isn't a book being well written and funny reason enough to read it?
pixxispad 1 year ago
IS THAT A SNITCH I SEE!
vanillalatteblended 1 year ago
I DO consider the new series of Doctor Who an adult program that is also accessible to children. Some of what David is saying is true, but I think he's making a mountain out of a molehill.
bandoforlife 1 year ago 2
"moody, black-and-white picture of an empty honey pot". HAHA :D
popFlax 1 year ago 4
David Mitchell Is pure british Comedy :)
xCelticEquestrianx 1 year ago 4
@Pipweed: Note, the word 'gay' - while subject to many vulgar misinterpretations - is not a synonym for a derogatory term.
xiFLaWLeSs 1 year ago