“Another proof of the conquest of a soul for Christ will be found in a real change of life. If the man does not live differently from what he did before, both at home and abroad, his repentance needs to be repented of, and his conversion is a fiction. Not only action and language, but spirit and temper must be changed” -- Charles H. Spurgeon
Praise God for your great explaination of God's word with regards christian perfection and debunking the heretical doctrine of sinless perfection. My biblical research using online concordances showed me that the word "perfect" as used in the bible actually means spiritual maturity, not the sinless perfection as understood by misguided people such as truegospelofchrist. By simply asking him whether he is living a sinless life, you've showed him the folly of his false belief & chased him away.
Greeting. You make several good points. And yes, it is a worthy endeavor to live a life without sin, but its not possible. In fact, if we were able to live a sinless life, why would we need Jesus?
I am in full agreement with you. My experience is that I have gone for long periods without sin, and ironically, it is when I feel confident, that I fall into sin. One can believe one has conquered sin, start preaching sinless perfection, then fall into sin a few hours later.
I've had to deal with heretics HolySpirtDwells and TrueCore08 with their sinless perfection teachings. They deliberately twist 1 John 1:8 to say that verse is not for Christians. They are so full of pride it is amazing that they can't see it themselves.
Sin will be an issue in the Christians life as long as they are in the earth. To use 1John 1:9 and say Lord if there is anything that I have done that I did not know about such as a passing thought during the day, please forgive me. I believe this is the spiritual warfare fought by every Christian on the inside in dealing with which 'man' he is to show forth. We are to produce fruits of the spirit, but when we sin we are to ask for forgiveness. The Holy Spirit does convict us of this. God bless.
Thank you brother as another voice that speaks the truth. Jesus clearly showed us that "sinless perfection" is from the Devil by the Prayers of the Pharisse and the Publican. The publican agreed with God that he is a sinner. If we say we have no sin we decieve ourselves and the truth is not in us. We, after seeing the Pharisee and Publican, call God a liar. We must be cleansed and this is a continious work of the Holy Spirit. Sinless perfection is Satanic and a doctrine of Demons. .
Redeemed saints know that they are still sinners ????
Romans 6:2 - May it never be! How shall we who died to sin still live in it?
Stop teaching that sin is inevitable in the christian life... Gal 5:24 - Now those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
Gal 5:16 - This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh.
If you choose to remain a slave to sin so be it... But who the Son sets free is free indeed !!
@edwardpf123. Here, Paul is teaching and not giving his testimony. Teaching is for you. Teaching continues: Those who walk in the flesh will be condemned, but only those who walk in the spirit will be saved. Ref: Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
@edwardpf123 You do not even have common sense. Rom 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. If it is his testimony, was Paul born with the law, OR the law came to him? Then, (Rom 8. quoted before) was he of the spirit, OR was he of the flesh? You want to be a teacher of the word!!! Shame on you.
Any1 sayin that they can live a sinless life is in a state of self deception ?
Have you read Rom. 6:6 - knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Christ, that our body of sin might be done away with, so we would no longer be slaves to sin
Gal. 5:24 - Now those belonging to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
2 Cor. 7:1 - Let us cleanse ourselves from all defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.
@edwardpf123 . Blind men like you will commit known sins and unknown sins. God gave me eyes to see all things. God gave me grace to overcome sins. Bye. Bye.
@edwardpf123 . "John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not." Bye. Bye.
@edwardpf123 . You did. Now you call the followers of Jesus as liars. Jesus said to fololow him and he set up an example, which his life to follow, 1 Pet 2:21. For you the truth tellers are those who follow the devil. It is strange.
I have a question, if it is written a man has no unrighteousness in him, what dose that mean? Doses that mean that man still has sin in him? If yes, then what is unrighteousness? Is it not sin? Too many believers are defending sinfulness, instead of proclaiming God ability to do any thing, even do exceedingly, abundantly above what we can think or ask. Is it sin (demonic) for a Believer to ask and trusts God to manifest deliverance from all sin in this life, or is that faith in God?
I understand what you were trying to say, however, you are incorrect to say we will always sin in this world. If that is true, there would be no point to tell believers not to sin. Jesus said "Go and sin no more" John wrote, "My little, these things write I unto you, that you sin not...." Peter wrote how to overcome and not fall (sin). We really need to understand our walk with God and the Grace of God before speaking against the blessings of God, because someone presented the truth in error.
KJV--Proverbs 24:16--For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief...........Im sorry my friend .... but in that verse that God revealed to you it means a Godly man may fall into sin at times but he will keep on running the race when Christ lifts him up and he keeps running the race until he sees the father in heaven....
For there is no man that sinneth not...(1 Kings 8, 2 Chronicles 6)
This video is an excellent example of the Lord's promise in Lu 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
Who could possibly put forth an argument against such a solid, biblical presentation? It's a pleasure to see you out there fighting the good fight brother.
@jjpetkusiii Bro Ed lacks understanding of the Grace and Power of God, this doctrine keep believers weak. Yehowshuwa (Jesus) was not the only man to live that did not sin. Read & believe Heb 7:1-3, Melchisedec was a man who did not sin. Yehowshuwa is the only man to come and died for sin. Bro. Ed, is correct to say "perfection is maturity" however, no believer is mature in relationship with God, and don't believe they can do all things by Grace through the empowerment of the Holy Spirit. Peace
No, Hebrews 7 has nothing to do with your eisegesis of a bogus "sinless perfection," and according to the Scriptures, "Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole... Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved" (Acts 4:10ff).
@jjpetkusiii before trying to correct what I wrote you need to understand it. Heb 7 has something to do with the statement "no person ever live on earth without sinning, except "jesus." Melchisedec did. Desiring sinlessness isn't bogus, not believing God can make us sinless in this life, is faithless. I have never said, “I am sinless.” I do say, God can make us sinless in this life. ‘He who testifies of himself seeks his own glory, and if a man testify of himself his testimony is not true.’
The Holy Scriptures instruct that righteousness is imputed to regenerated believers in the Lord Jesus Christ, but the specious dogma that any man or woman can attain "sinless perfection" is found nowhere in the Holy Bible.
On the other hand, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness" (1John 1:8).
@jjpetkusiii Yes it is written to depart from sin. You can't have it both ways. It is written "As he is so are we in this world." To believe we can be like him in this world, and still believe the power of sin works in our lives is a contradiction of His deliverance. To believe He is faithful and just to forgive our sins, and CLEANSE us from ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS" in this world and still have sin in us is confusion and a contradiction; sadly a denial of the Power of God and the words of Christ.
The Lord Jesus Christ came into the world to save sinners according to the Scriptures. While neo-Pelagian errors (Arminianism) are just the flipside of Calvinism, the JW cult blasphemously denies the deity of the Son of God and attempts to enslave its adherents in its damnable legalism.
"Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ" (Colossians 2:8).
@jjpetkusiii I really don’t understand your point, nor do I believe what "Calvinism" or "JW" believe. Yehowshuwa (Jesus), is the only Begotten Son of the Father, and the only one appointed, to die for our sins, I also know He is God manifest in the likeness of sinful flesh, yet without sin. My point is a very simple one. Yehowshuwa (Jesus) was not the only man to walk on earth that did not sin, Melchisedec did not sin, and every one who understand who He is understand He could not sin.
While I welcome your thoughtful and prompt reply, I can and ought to assure you that Hebrews 7 does not instruct "since perfection," which in fact cannot be supported by any valid Sola Scriptura exegesis.
References to Melchisedec in Hebrews contrast to the (defunct) Levitical priesthood. For example, "For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore" (Hebrews 7:28).
@jjpetkusiii Thank you, I pray this is the last time I need to point this out. I did not point to Heb 7 to support “sinless perfection.” I pointed to Heb 7 to show “Jesus” was not the only man who ever lived on earth that did not sin. Melchisedec also shares in that distinction. That is it. As far as being perfect and sinless, they are two different things. Noah and Job both are called perfect, neither one was declared sinless. Perfection simply means mature, there is more to the word
As jjpetkusiii put it, "...the specious dogma that any man or woman can attain 'sinless perfection' is found nowhere in the Holy Bible." Melchisedec is unique also in that he had no parents, but that exludes the argument that he can be a proper type of regenerated believers in the Lord Jesus Christ who were born and born again.
According to the Scriptures, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us" (1John 1:8).
@boggymark1 Heb 7 was used to show edwardpf123 statement “No man has lived, other then Jesus Christ and not sinned” is wrong. If He is wrong about that, it stands to reason he can be wrong about other things he has said about perfection and sin. If you read Heb 7, and think Melchisedec had sin, what else can you miss in the word? Heb 7 was to show that simple fact. Not to support “sinless perfection.” Be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation. Jms 3:1
There was no objective reason for you to make any reference to Hebrews 7 in the first place since the description of Melchisedec there does not even qualify him as a man born of woman (Eve is the mother of all, according to the Scriptures.) since that chapter makes it clear that he had neither mother nor father.
Of course, the reference to Melchisedec there does not teach the fiction of "sinless perfection," nor does the Holy Bible anywhere.
@jjpetkusiii Wow, unbelievable, sure there’s a reason to bringing up Heb 7. Bro Ed (The speaker) on his video said “no man has lived other then Jesus Christ that did not sin.” Melchisedec is one such man. So, once again, if he was wrong about that what else can (is) he wrong about? The answer is many things statements in the video about perfection, sinlessness and even why believers sin. Watch my response video on this video by Bro. Ed
Your assertions about Melchisedec according Hebrews 7 are patently eisegetic; and while they might still befuddle you, they do not correct any fallacy or error. For example, "Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually" (Hebrews 7:3) Who is a "man" and has neither a father nor a mother and was never even born? No descendant of Adam and Eve fits such a description.
@jjpetkusiii LOL, you are amazing, whatever. You don't believe Melchisedec was a man that did not sin, find don’t believe it. It's obvious that is not the first thing in the Bible you do not believe, nor do you understand. Tell me do you believe God is the author of confusion?
I don't know why jjpetkusiii or anyone else would believe that "God is the author of confusion" just because you don't know how to read and interpret Hebrews 7.
@jjpetkusiii Thank you, I pray this is the last time I need to point this out. I did not point to Heb 7 to support “sinless perfection.” I pointed to Heb 7 to show “Jesus” was not the only man who ever lived on earth that did not sin. Melchisedec also shares in that distinction. That is it. As far as being perfect and sinless, they are two different things. Noah and Job both are called perfect, neither one was declared sinless. Perfection simply means mature, there is more to the word
Once again, nowhere do the Scriptures instruct that any man or woman can attain "sinless perfection." As boggymark1 put it, "Melchisedec is unique in that he had no parents, but that exludes the argument that he can be a proper type of regenerated believers in the Lord Jesus Christ who were born and born again."
Moreover, "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness" (1John 1:9).
@jjpetkusiii It shows immaturity to respond to a subject, and then when you realize you are corrected, say the subject is not valet. Heb 7 clearly shows Bro. Ed was wrong to say not other man lived that did not sin. That is simply the point. You might want to learn how to have a conversation before trying to correct knowledge you do not understand. There is a clear difference between perfection and sinlessness (free from sin) and it is scriptural, even if you do not know or understand them.
You have assumed that Melchisedec is represented in the Holy Bible as a "man" just as you incorrectly supposed that he is a model of "sinless perfection" today for anyone who--unlike him--is descended from Adam and Eve through his (or her) own mother and father. According to the Scriptures, your comments (not difficult to read) simply lack any and all validity or authority to correct anyone.
@jjpetkusiii Amazing, how old are you? For the last time I pointed to Melchisedec showing there was another man that lived on earth that did not sin. How was Jesus a child of Adam or Eve, when He was before them? Melchisedec was a man that lived and did not sin? "Sinlessness" or freedom from sin. If a man has no unrighteousness in him, is that man still a sinner? If yes, how? If no, how can someone with no unrighteousness in him sin? It is written there are those other then Yehowshuwa.
First of all, unless you want to write to Israelis about your "sinless prefection" fantasies, you might as well drop your "Yehowshuwa" thing (or perhaps compose your posts in modern Hebrew). Beyond that, your comments were thoroughly mistaken as to what the Holy Scriptures have to say about Melchisedec in Hebrews 7 who does not even represent humanity on any recognizable level there rather serves as a type of the excellence of the Lord Jesus Christ above the Aaronic priesthood.
@boggymark1 "made like unto the Son of God." Was not the son of God manifest like unto man? It is written we are kings and priest, do you believe that means we are like Levitical priest or like Christ?
@boggymark1 Okay jjpetkusiii is obviously not humble enough to admit Bro. Ed was wrong to say, Jesus was the only man that lived that did not sin. He refuses to see that Melchisedec was made (manifest) like unto the Son of God (man). Even Lucifer is called a man. Isa 14:12-16 (16), yet he is a fallen angel. Man is more then just being a descendent from Adam and Eve. Now being free from sin (as they say “sinless perfection”......
You don't seem to get the point. Hebrews 7 is neither a reference to the "sinless perfection" fantasy nor to the humanity of Melchisedec. Even to assert that he was a man is not warranted on the basis of a valid Sola Scriptura exegesis of the text itslef has to say about him there in their clear and proper context.
@boggymark1 No you are not getting the point, understanding of scripture is given (revealed) not interpreted. Understanding of scripture only comes from God, not "correct exegesis." Which is simply saying, man's ways of interpreting scriptures, which leads to denominations. That is why there are so many “preachers” with different understanding of the same subject. Yet, it is written that we all speak the same thing, have the same mind, and this too is a work of God, not man who causes confusion.
@jjpetkusiii It is sadly obvious you're not humble before God. You cannot gain understanding of the Holy Bible without the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Anyone can "study" the Bible until they are blue in the face, they still will not come to understanding unless the Holy Spirit reveals it. 2 Tim 3:1-7 (7), 1 Cor 2 6-16 (6-11). You cannot understand truth without the Holy Spirit, 2 Tim 2 is not about reading "study" maybe you can ref the Greek, as a start. Understating comes only from God.
@AchreousD So long and widely attested is the accuracy of the King James Bible that the onus probandi is squarely on those who assert that there are errors anywhere in its text. That burden of proof has never been met. The revisionists of the Westcott and Hort crowd failed miserably in the XIX Century, but many pompous blowhards still miss the point. Even lesser "scholars" on the make than James White wind up falling into a snare laid by German Higher Critics centuries ago.
@jjpetkusiii What are you talking about, "the accuracy of KJ"? Who said anything is wrong with KJ, which is the only Bible I teach from. It dose not matter what version you use, what matters are we (you) lead by the Spirit into understanding the text? Am I missing the point here are is it you just like to debt?
The Lord Jesus Christ is not honored and glorified when men and women depart from the Authorized Version of the Holy Bible (KJV), which testifies of Him and preserves the Old and New Testaments without error, omission or addition.
The wicked "zeitgeistlich" Satanic spirit of relativistic secular humanism and universalism, i.e., "catholicism," saturates the contempo apostate mistranslations of Scriptures into inferior, misleading and incorrect English.
@AchreousD Gen 22:1 and James 1:13? "...Neither tempteth he any man:" (James 1:13b). JESUS took on Him the seed of Abraham. And this seed in Abraham is what was being tempted. The seed is the righteousness of God (imputed to Abraham, James 2:23)--the faith of Jesus Christ (Rom 3:22). God is not tempted "with evil". The temptation to which the righteous seed responded in Abraham was of his willingness to give his only begotten son Isaac, a type of God's laying down His Life for evil men.
@AchreousD -Abraham was TESTED (tried Heb.11:17). The word 'temptation' can mean either temptation to fall or testing to suceed. God never 'tempts' in the way Satan does, to ensare one in evil, nor can He be tempted. Christ, in his humanity, was tested by suffering and made perfect by them (Heb.2:10)
@edwardpf123 Okay, but the bottomline God doesn't temp, test any man.... the Angel of the LORD tempted, tested or proved Abraham as it is written Gen 22:11-12 clearly shows it was an Angel seeking to see or understand Abraham level of faith towards God... Peace unto you
@boggymark1 Yehowshuwa (Jesus) said the disciple is not above his Master, but every one that is perfect shall be as his master. Luke 6:40. Is the master free of sin? Was he free of sin in this world? Is He now free of sin? Yes, He is, was and is now free from sin. It is written, “… as he is so are we in this world.” 1 John 4:17
@jjpetkusiii I never said Melchisedec was a model of anything, only that He was a man that lived and did not sin. I never stated or implied Melchisedec was a “model of sinless perfection" which can only apply to those who were once dead in sin and have been delivered, forgiven of sin, and cleans from all unrighteousness.
God can perfect us, even setting us free from sin in this world. The question is not has He? The question is why do you not believe? Rev 3:2 "I have not found you works perfect" How can a man's works be perfect, except the LORD perfects the man’s motives and work? He's coming back for a Church without spot or wrinkle. Sin is the spot of uncleanness? 1 Jhn 5:18; 3:7-9; 2:1-6; 1 Cor 15:34; 2 Pet 2:1-14 (9,12,14). St. Jhn 8:11-12; 831-36; all point to not sinning
For example, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness" (1John 1:8ff).
We need a glorified body so we can have no more pain or tears and ect... Not (willful) sin in which through the Holy Spirit we overcome in our flesh, because IF we walk after the Spirit we shall NOT fulfill the lust of the flesh...To him who KNOWETH to do good to him it is a sin...Your teaching is lack of FAITH in the POWER of Jesus BLOOD...
Yes, IF we do walk by the Spirit we won't sin. I am not saying that a Christian HAS to sin. But 1Jn.1:8 makes it very clear that every Christian will continue to sin as long as we have these fleshly bodies.
No, growing Christians recognize that they will sin and use 1Jn.1:9 to get back into fellowship. Ofcourse, you think when you commit a sin in ignorance God doesn't count that as a sin. So, you just deny the reality of God's absolute holiness.
Good message, too much of a soft approach with the truth of the Word of God these days, and the end result.....well we see it all around us, in the Church as well much to our shame.
That's right. Even if you didn't know it was wrong, it's still wrong. I mean, in the Old Testament it talks about what someone who sins unknowingly should do once he finds out he has trespassed.
I like you, brother Edward.
You have some good doctrine in that head of yours. Don't stop making videos.'
2Tim 3:15: And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16: All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
A man can be made complete, (fully equipped to know, and perform service).
Yeah, "perfection" is Greek word "teleios", which actually means "completion" in maturation. English "perfect" is okay if you understand that in English, "to perfect" means to complete a CONTRACT -- here, for our maturation, which Christ prayed for, in John 17:20-23. Hebrews' use of the verb teleiow, usu. translated "perfect", has this completion meaning.
Now for a scary post-script. I didn't know KJV used "perfect" in John 17:23 until AFTER typing, and looking up the verse for confirmation.
Yes, the word 'perfect' never means sinless, it means to be complete. A sinner may still have a 'perfect'(complete) heart in that his heart is directed towards God, as was the case of David.
Yet, he is still a sinner and has to deal with the sins and the break in fellowship with God by using 1Jn.1:9.
Amen brother Edward , the Lord bless you, love in Christ , bro Ron I PETER CHAPTER 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
The holiness guys quote, "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins," (Heb 10:26) as the proof-text for their doctrine.
I knew an Assemblies of God preacher who claimed he never sinned "wilfully" since 1975. That was the magic word, "wilfully," to cover up 30 years of sinning!
And, of course all of the book of Hebrews doesn't necessarily apply doctrinally to the Church-age (like that verse).
Yes, Heb.10:26 is dealing with a Christian who willfully rejects the truth of God's words (see Pr.1:24-32) and turns his back on God. He doesn't lose his salvation but God will deal with him in discipline (Heb.12, 1Cor.5:5)
Sin always breaks fellowship with God and thus, the Holy Spirit is grieved.(Eph.4:30). The difference is in the amount of discipline the individual receives, a 'babe' will receive less then an 'elder' since the elder was responsible for more (Lk.12)
“Another proof of the conquest of a soul for Christ will be found in a real change of life. If the man does not live differently from what he did before, both at home and abroad, his repentance needs to be repented of, and his conversion is a fiction. Not only action and language, but spirit and temper must be changed” -- Charles H. Spurgeon
Walkinginthelight38 5 months ago
@Walkinginthelight38 -How much did Lot change his life?
edwardpf123 5 months ago 3
@edwardpf123 thank you brother.
dutchmcgee101 2 months ago
Praise God for your great explaination of God's word with regards christian perfection and debunking the heretical doctrine of sinless perfection. My biblical research using online concordances showed me that the word "perfect" as used in the bible actually means spiritual maturity, not the sinless perfection as understood by misguided people such as truegospelofchrist. By simply asking him whether he is living a sinless life, you've showed him the folly of his false belief & chased him away.
opsvideo2008 8 months ago
Greeting. You make several good points. And yes, it is a worthy endeavor to live a life without sin, but its not possible. In fact, if we were able to live a sinless life, why would we need Jesus?
Watch this video - Sinlessness: Is It Biblical?
toddpress 8 months ago
"If I justify myself, mine own mouth shall condemn me: if I say, I am perfect, it shall also prove me perverse." (Job 9:20) =)
tmilehorie 9 months ago
This one going to favorites.
PHANTOMSLAYER777 1 year ago
Very well put. No one has tried as hard as me, well, maybe, and I am not perfect yet.
Thank you. Yes, people like Final Call. Apparently he's sinless. Then again, he says you don't need the bible.
1 John 1:8-10
PHANTOMSLAYER777 1 year ago
I am in full agreement with you. My experience is that I have gone for long periods without sin, and ironically, it is when I feel confident, that I fall into sin. One can believe one has conquered sin, start preaching sinless perfection, then fall into sin a few hours later.
PHANTOMSLAYER777 1 year ago
I seek perfection, and at times I have thought I had conquered sin, only to fall on my face.
PHANTOMSLAYER777 1 year ago
I've had to deal with heretics HolySpirtDwells and TrueCore08 with their sinless perfection teachings. They deliberately twist 1 John 1:8 to say that verse is not for Christians. They are so full of pride it is amazing that they can't see it themselves.
savedbyjesusblood 1 year ago
Sin will be an issue in the Christians life as long as they are in the earth. To use 1John 1:9 and say Lord if there is anything that I have done that I did not know about such as a passing thought during the day, please forgive me. I believe this is the spiritual warfare fought by every Christian on the inside in dealing with which 'man' he is to show forth. We are to produce fruits of the spirit, but when we sin we are to ask for forgiveness. The Holy Spirit does convict us of this. God bless.
christineshires 1 year ago
Thank you brother as another voice that speaks the truth. Jesus clearly showed us that "sinless perfection" is from the Devil by the Prayers of the Pharisse and the Publican. The publican agreed with God that he is a sinner. If we say we have no sin we decieve ourselves and the truth is not in us. We, after seeing the Pharisee and Publican, call God a liar. We must be cleansed and this is a continious work of the Holy Spirit. Sinless perfection is Satanic and a doctrine of Demons. .
obcentimeters 1 year ago 4
You are the mouth piece of Satan. He is the father of lies.
truegospelofchrist 1 year ago
Redeemed saints know that they are still sinners ????
Romans 6:2 - May it never be! How shall we who died to sin still live in it?
Stop teaching that sin is inevitable in the christian life... Gal 5:24 - Now those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
Gal 5:16 - This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh.
If you choose to remain a slave to sin so be it... But who the Son sets free is free indeed !!
TruthTeller201 1 year ago
@TruthTeller201 -And you had better read Rom.7
So, once again, I ask you, do you still sin or not? Have you obtained sinless perfection or not?
edwardpf123 1 year ago
@edwardpf123 . You better read Rom 7. It talk about a wretched man calling Jesus as Lord Lord. He is damned and not saved.
truegospelofchrist 1 year ago
@truegospelofchrist -That man is Paul and he is not lost.
It is a saved man battling his flesh. A battle we go through each
day.
edwardpf123 1 year ago
@edwardpf123. Here, Paul is teaching and not giving his testimony. Teaching is for you. Teaching continues: Those who walk in the flesh will be condemned, but only those who walk in the spirit will be saved. Ref: Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
truegospelofchrist 1 year ago
@truegospelofchrist -No Paul was giving his own testimony.
Paul wasn't sinless, and neither are you. Yes, Rom.8:1 is speaking of walking in the Spirit, not salvation and bearing fruit.
So, once again, are you living a sinless life?
edwardpf123 1 year ago
@edwardpf123 You do not even have common sense. Rom 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. If it is his testimony, was Paul born with the law, OR the law came to him? Then, (Rom 8. quoted before) was he of the spirit, OR was he of the flesh? You want to be a teacher of the word!!! Shame on you.
truegospelofchrist 1 year ago
Rom 6:11 - So consider yourselves dead to sin's power but living for God in the power Christ Jesus gives you.
Rom 6:2 - May it never be! How shall we who died to sin still live in it?
Jn 8:34 - Jesus answered them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin.
Jn 8:36 - So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.
Redeemed saints of God do not give room for, nor anticipate sinning.
Are you still a slave to sin ?
Crucify your flesh brother
TruthTeller201 1 year ago
@TruthTeller201 -Redeemed saints know that they are still sinners. Do you still sin or not?
edwardpf123 1 year ago
Any1 sayin that they can live a sinless life is in a state of self deception ?
Have you read Rom. 6:6 - knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Christ, that our body of sin might be done away with, so we would no longer be slaves to sin
Gal. 5:24 - Now those belonging to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
2 Cor. 7:1 - Let us cleanse ourselves from all defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.
read the word
TruthTeller201 1 year ago
@TruthTeller201 -And have you read 1Jn.1:8-'if we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us'
Now, those verses say we don't HAVE to sin, but 1Jn.1:8 makes it very clear that we will continue to do so.
So, have you stoppped sinning?
edwardpf123 1 year ago
@edwardpf123 Yes, The grace of God helped me to stop sinning.
truegospelofchrist 1 year ago
@truegospelofchrist -Wow, so now you claim that you sin no more! Even unknown sins?
edwardpf123 1 year ago
@edwardpf123 . Blind men like you will commit known sins and unknown sins. God gave me eyes to see all things. God gave me grace to overcome sins. Bye. Bye.
truegospelofchrist 1 year ago
@truegospelofchrist -Anyone who claims they are sinless is a liar.
So long.
edwardpf123 1 year ago
@edwardpf123 . "John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not." Bye. Bye.
truegospelofchrist 1 year ago
@edwardpf123 Amen. I rebuked TrueCore08 when he left his demonic gospel message on my channel.
savedbyjesusblood 1 year ago
@edwardpf123 . You call Jesus Christ a liar? Are you not a child of the devil?
truegospelofchrist 1 year ago
@truegospelofchrist -I didn't call Jesus Christ a liar, I called those who claimed sinsless perfection liars. Only Christ was sinless.
edwardpf123 1 year ago
@edwardpf123 . You did. Now you call the followers of Jesus as liars. Jesus said to fololow him and he set up an example, which his life to follow, 1 Pet 2:21. For you the truth tellers are those who follow the devil. It is strange.
truegospelofchrist 1 year ago
@edwardpf123 Unless he has supernatural power. I certainly do not. Yet, I wish to be holy.
PHANTOMSLAYER777 1 year ago
I have a question, if it is written a man has no unrighteousness in him, what dose that mean? Doses that mean that man still has sin in him? If yes, then what is unrighteousness? Is it not sin? Too many believers are defending sinfulness, instead of proclaiming God ability to do any thing, even do exceedingly, abundantly above what we can think or ask. Is it sin (demonic) for a Believer to ask and trusts God to manifest deliverance from all sin in this life, or is that faith in God?
AchreousD 1 year ago
I understand what you were trying to say, however, you are incorrect to say we will always sin in this world. If that is true, there would be no point to tell believers not to sin. Jesus said "Go and sin no more" John wrote, "My little, these things write I unto you, that you sin not...." Peter wrote how to overcome and not fall (sin). We really need to understand our walk with God and the Grace of God before speaking against the blessings of God, because someone presented the truth in error.
AchreousD 1 year ago
KJV--Proverbs 24:16--For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief...........Im sorry my friend .... but in that verse that God revealed to you it means a Godly man may fall into sin at times but he will keep on running the race when Christ lifts him up and he keeps running the race until he sees the father in heaven....
romans116chris 1 year ago
For there is no man that sinneth not...(1 Kings 8, 2 Chronicles 6)
This video is an excellent example of the Lord's promise in Lu 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
Who could possibly put forth an argument against such a solid, biblical presentation? It's a pleasure to see you out there fighting the good fight brother.
catholicexodus 1 year ago 8
@catholicexodus -Thank you brother for that kind comment!
edwardpf123 1 year ago
Thank you, Brother Ed, for uploading this excellent and edifying video.
God speed!
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 8
@jjpetkusiii
Thank you brother for your comment!
edwardpf123 1 year ago
@jjpetkusiii Bro Ed lacks understanding of the Grace and Power of God, this doctrine keep believers weak. Yehowshuwa (Jesus) was not the only man to live that did not sin. Read & believe Heb 7:1-3, Melchisedec was a man who did not sin. Yehowshuwa is the only man to come and died for sin. Bro. Ed, is correct to say "perfection is maturity" however, no believer is mature in relationship with God, and don't believe they can do all things by Grace through the empowerment of the Holy Spirit. Peace
AchreousD 1 year ago
@AchreousD
No, Hebrews 7 has nothing to do with your eisegesis of a bogus "sinless perfection," and according to the Scriptures, "Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole... Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved" (Acts 4:10ff).
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 4
@jjpetkusiii before trying to correct what I wrote you need to understand it. Heb 7 has something to do with the statement "no person ever live on earth without sinning, except "jesus." Melchisedec did. Desiring sinlessness isn't bogus, not believing God can make us sinless in this life, is faithless. I have never said, “I am sinless.” I do say, God can make us sinless in this life. ‘He who testifies of himself seeks his own glory, and if a man testify of himself his testimony is not true.’
AchreousD 1 year ago
@AchreousD
The Holy Scriptures instruct that righteousness is imputed to regenerated believers in the Lord Jesus Christ, but the specious dogma that any man or woman can attain "sinless perfection" is found nowhere in the Holy Bible.
On the other hand, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness" (1John 1:8).
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 4
@jjpetkusiii Yes it is written to depart from sin. You can't have it both ways. It is written "As he is so are we in this world." To believe we can be like him in this world, and still believe the power of sin works in our lives is a contradiction of His deliverance. To believe He is faithful and just to forgive our sins, and CLEANSE us from ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS" in this world and still have sin in us is confusion and a contradiction; sadly a denial of the Power of God and the words of Christ.
AchreousD 1 year ago
@AchreousD
The Lord Jesus Christ came into the world to save sinners according to the Scriptures. While neo-Pelagian errors (Arminianism) are just the flipside of Calvinism, the JW cult blasphemously denies the deity of the Son of God and attempts to enslave its adherents in its damnable legalism.
"Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ" (Colossians 2:8).
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 4
@jjpetkusiii I really don’t understand your point, nor do I believe what "Calvinism" or "JW" believe. Yehowshuwa (Jesus), is the only Begotten Son of the Father, and the only one appointed, to die for our sins, I also know He is God manifest in the likeness of sinful flesh, yet without sin. My point is a very simple one. Yehowshuwa (Jesus) was not the only man to walk on earth that did not sin, Melchisedec did not sin, and every one who understand who He is understand He could not sin.
AchreousD 1 year ago
@AchreousD
While I welcome your thoughtful and prompt reply, I can and ought to assure you that Hebrews 7 does not instruct "since perfection," which in fact cannot be supported by any valid Sola Scriptura exegesis.
References to Melchisedec in Hebrews contrast to the (defunct) Levitical priesthood. For example, "For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore" (Hebrews 7:28).
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 4
@jjpetkusiii Thank you, I pray this is the last time I need to point this out. I did not point to Heb 7 to support “sinless perfection.” I pointed to Heb 7 to show “Jesus” was not the only man who ever lived on earth that did not sin. Melchisedec also shares in that distinction. That is it. As far as being perfect and sinless, they are two different things. Noah and Job both are called perfect, neither one was declared sinless. Perfection simply means mature, there is more to the word
AchreousD 1 year ago
@AchreousD
As jjpetkusiii put it, "...the specious dogma that any man or woman can attain 'sinless perfection' is found nowhere in the Holy Bible." Melchisedec is unique also in that he had no parents, but that exludes the argument that he can be a proper type of regenerated believers in the Lord Jesus Christ who were born and born again.
According to the Scriptures, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us" (1John 1:8).
boggymark1 1 year ago 4
@boggymark1 Heb 7 was used to show edwardpf123 statement “No man has lived, other then Jesus Christ and not sinned” is wrong. If He is wrong about that, it stands to reason he can be wrong about other things he has said about perfection and sin. If you read Heb 7, and think Melchisedec had sin, what else can you miss in the word? Heb 7 was to show that simple fact. Not to support “sinless perfection.” Be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation. Jms 3:1
AchreousD 1 year ago
@AchreousD
There was no objective reason for you to make any reference to Hebrews 7 in the first place since the description of Melchisedec there does not even qualify him as a man born of woman (Eve is the mother of all, according to the Scriptures.) since that chapter makes it clear that he had neither mother nor father.
Of course, the reference to Melchisedec there does not teach the fiction of "sinless perfection," nor does the Holy Bible anywhere.
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 3
@jjpetkusiii Wow, unbelievable, sure there’s a reason to bringing up Heb 7. Bro Ed (The speaker) on his video said “no man has lived other then Jesus Christ that did not sin.” Melchisedec is one such man. So, once again, if he was wrong about that what else can (is) he wrong about? The answer is many things statements in the video about perfection, sinlessness and even why believers sin. Watch my response video on this video by Bro. Ed
AchreousD 1 year ago
@AchreousD
Your assertions about Melchisedec according Hebrews 7 are patently eisegetic; and while they might still befuddle you, they do not correct any fallacy or error. For example, "Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually" (Hebrews 7:3) Who is a "man" and has neither a father nor a mother and was never even born? No descendant of Adam and Eve fits such a description.
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 3
@jjpetkusiii LOL, you are amazing, whatever. You don't believe Melchisedec was a man that did not sin, find don’t believe it. It's obvious that is not the first thing in the Bible you do not believe, nor do you understand. Tell me do you believe God is the author of confusion?
AchreousD 1 year ago
@AchreousD
I don't know why jjpetkusiii or anyone else would believe that "God is the author of confusion" just because you don't know how to read and interpret Hebrews 7.
boggymark1 1 year ago
@boggymark1 LOL
AchreousD 1 year ago
@jjpetkusiii Thank you, I pray this is the last time I need to point this out. I did not point to Heb 7 to support “sinless perfection.” I pointed to Heb 7 to show “Jesus” was not the only man who ever lived on earth that did not sin. Melchisedec also shares in that distinction. That is it. As far as being perfect and sinless, they are two different things. Noah and Job both are called perfect, neither one was declared sinless. Perfection simply means mature, there is more to the word
AchreousD 1 year ago
@AchreousD
Once again, nowhere do the Scriptures instruct that any man or woman can attain "sinless perfection." As boggymark1 put it, "Melchisedec is unique in that he had no parents, but that exludes the argument that he can be a proper type of regenerated believers in the Lord Jesus Christ who were born and born again."
Moreover, "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness" (1John 1:9).
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 3
@jjpetkusiii It shows immaturity to respond to a subject, and then when you realize you are corrected, say the subject is not valet. Heb 7 clearly shows Bro. Ed was wrong to say not other man lived that did not sin. That is simply the point. You might want to learn how to have a conversation before trying to correct knowledge you do not understand. There is a clear difference between perfection and sinlessness (free from sin) and it is scriptural, even if you do not know or understand them.
AchreousD 1 year ago
@AchreousD
You have assumed that Melchisedec is represented in the Holy Bible as a "man" just as you incorrectly supposed that he is a model of "sinless perfection" today for anyone who--unlike him--is descended from Adam and Eve through his (or her) own mother and father. According to the Scriptures, your comments (not difficult to read) simply lack any and all validity or authority to correct anyone.
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 3
@jjpetkusiii Amazing, how old are you? For the last time I pointed to Melchisedec showing there was another man that lived on earth that did not sin. How was Jesus a child of Adam or Eve, when He was before them? Melchisedec was a man that lived and did not sin? "Sinlessness" or freedom from sin. If a man has no unrighteousness in him, is that man still a sinner? If yes, how? If no, how can someone with no unrighteousness in him sin? It is written there are those other then Yehowshuwa.
AchreousD 1 year ago
@AchreousD
First of all, unless you want to write to Israelis about your "sinless prefection" fantasies, you might as well drop your "Yehowshuwa" thing (or perhaps compose your posts in modern Hebrew). Beyond that, your comments were thoroughly mistaken as to what the Holy Scriptures have to say about Melchisedec in Hebrews 7 who does not even represent humanity on any recognizable level there rather serves as a type of the excellence of the Lord Jesus Christ above the Aaronic priesthood.
boggymark1 1 year ago 3
@boggymark1 "made like unto the Son of God." Was not the son of God manifest like unto man? It is written we are kings and priest, do you believe that means we are like Levitical priest or like Christ?
AchreousD 1 year ago
@boggymark1 Okay jjpetkusiii is obviously not humble enough to admit Bro. Ed was wrong to say, Jesus was the only man that lived that did not sin. He refuses to see that Melchisedec was made (manifest) like unto the Son of God (man). Even Lucifer is called a man. Isa 14:12-16 (16), yet he is a fallen angel. Man is more then just being a descendent from Adam and Eve. Now being free from sin (as they say “sinless perfection”......
AchreousD 1 year ago
@AchreousD
You don't seem to get the point. Hebrews 7 is neither a reference to the "sinless perfection" fantasy nor to the humanity of Melchisedec. Even to assert that he was a man is not warranted on the basis of a valid Sola Scriptura exegesis of the text itslef has to say about him there in their clear and proper context.
boggymark1 1 year ago 3
@boggymark1 No you are not getting the point, understanding of scripture is given (revealed) not interpreted. Understanding of scripture only comes from God, not "correct exegesis." Which is simply saying, man's ways of interpreting scriptures, which leads to denominations. That is why there are so many “preachers” with different understanding of the same subject. Yet, it is written that we all speak the same thing, have the same mind, and this too is a work of God, not man who causes confusion.
AchreousD 1 year ago
@AchreousD
"Understanding of scripture" requires studying the Holy Bible.
"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth" ( 2Timothy 2:15).
Meanwhile, try working on your reading comprehension and logical reasoning.
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 3
@jjpetkusiii It is sadly obvious you're not humble before God. You cannot gain understanding of the Holy Bible without the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Anyone can "study" the Bible until they are blue in the face, they still will not come to understanding unless the Holy Spirit reveals it. 2 Tim 3:1-7 (7), 1 Cor 2 6-16 (6-11). You cannot understand truth without the Holy Spirit, 2 Tim 2 is not about reading "study" maybe you can ref the Greek, as a start. Understating comes only from God.
AchreousD 1 year ago
@AchreousD So long and widely attested is the accuracy of the King James Bible that the onus probandi is squarely on those who assert that there are errors anywhere in its text. That burden of proof has never been met. The revisionists of the Westcott and Hort crowd failed miserably in the XIX Century, but many pompous blowhards still miss the point. Even lesser "scholars" on the make than James White wind up falling into a snare laid by German Higher Critics centuries ago.
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 3
@jjpetkusiii What are you talking about, "the accuracy of KJ"? Who said anything is wrong with KJ, which is the only Bible I teach from. It dose not matter what version you use, what matters are we (you) lead by the Spirit into understanding the text? Am I missing the point here are is it you just like to debt?
AchreousD 1 year ago
@AchreousD Thanks for your prompt reply.
The Lord Jesus Christ is not honored and glorified when men and women depart from the Authorized Version of the Holy Bible (KJV), which testifies of Him and preserves the Old and New Testaments without error, omission or addition.
The wicked "zeitgeistlich" Satanic spirit of relativistic secular humanism and universalism, i.e., "catholicism," saturates the contempo apostate mistranslations of Scriptures into inferior, misleading and incorrect English.
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 3
@jjpetkusiii You are welcome, when you have time call me and lets talk about Gen 22:1 and Jame1:13.........
AchreousD 1 year ago
@AchreousD Gen 22:1 and James 1:13? "...Neither tempteth he any man:" (James 1:13b). JESUS took on Him the seed of Abraham. And this seed in Abraham is what was being tempted. The seed is the righteousness of God (imputed to Abraham, James 2:23)--the faith of Jesus Christ (Rom 3:22). God is not tempted "with evil". The temptation to which the righteous seed responded in Abraham was of his willingness to give his only begotten son Isaac, a type of God's laying down His Life for evil men.
Enoch2 1 year ago
@Enoch2 What, are you serious?
AchreousD 1 year ago
@AchreousD -Abraham was TESTED (tried Heb.11:17). The word 'temptation' can mean either temptation to fall or testing to suceed. God never 'tempts' in the way Satan does, to ensare one in evil, nor can He be tempted. Christ, in his humanity, was tested by suffering and made perfect by them (Heb.2:10)
edwardpf123 1 year ago
@edwardpf123 Okay, but the bottomline God doesn't temp, test any man.... the Angel of the LORD tempted, tested or proved Abraham as it is written Gen 22:11-12 clearly shows it was an Angel seeking to see or understand Abraham level of faith towards God... Peace unto you
AchreousD 1 year ago
@AchreousD -'And it came to pass after these things that God did tempt Abraham' (Gen.22:1)
God tested Abraham's faith and Abraham passed the test since he believed what God had promised about Isaac being his heir (Heb.11:17-19)
Peace unto you as well.
edwardpf123 1 year ago
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AchreousD 1 year ago
@boggymark1 Yehowshuwa (Jesus) said the disciple is not above his Master, but every one that is perfect shall be as his master. Luke 6:40. Is the master free of sin? Was he free of sin in this world? Is He now free of sin? Yes, He is, was and is now free from sin. It is written, “… as he is so are we in this world.” 1 John 4:17
AchreousD 1 year ago
@jjpetkusiii I never said Melchisedec was a model of anything, only that He was a man that lived and did not sin. I never stated or implied Melchisedec was a “model of sinless perfection" which can only apply to those who were once dead in sin and have been delivered, forgiven of sin, and cleans from all unrighteousness.
AchreousD 1 year ago
God can perfect us, even setting us free from sin in this world. The question is not has He? The question is why do you not believe? Rev 3:2 "I have not found you works perfect" How can a man's works be perfect, except the LORD perfects the man’s motives and work? He's coming back for a Church without spot or wrinkle. Sin is the spot of uncleanness? 1 Jhn 5:18; 3:7-9; 2:1-6; 1 Cor 15:34; 2 Pet 2:1-14 (9,12,14). St. Jhn 8:11-12; 831-36; all point to not sinning
AchreousD 1 year ago
@AchreousD
Try reading 1John 1:1 through 1John 5:21.
For example, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness" (1John 1:8ff).
jjpetkusiii 1 year ago 3
@jjpetkusiii l have and believe also, if you believe it we would agree.
AchreousD 1 year ago
one bad thought is sin.one bad thought...why would anyone not examine themselves for sin? Because he thinks he has no sin...
markantonymcwhorter 1 year ago
Amen! Those who say they have stopped sinning claim that they don't 'KNOWINGLY sin anymore. They deny that sins of ignorance are still sins.
edwardpf123 1 year ago
sinning christians will go to hell
stop sinning and love Jesus
openairpreacher 2 years ago
If not sinning were the critera for going to heaven, no one would go. Stop deceiving yourself that you have no sin (1Jn.1:8)
edwardpf123 2 years ago
I must say this one was really really good!! God bless you!
abelieverinJesus 2 years ago
Thank you very much for that comment!
edwardpf123 2 years ago
This sinfree people are growing in numbers...
How is it some arrived at calling themselves completely sinless claiming they are Holy as God is Holy?; sin free- no trespasses -365 days a year?
To me they are walking in pride not humility.
Surely we must admit a wrong thought a moment of anger a wrong word and we need to ask forgiveness of our trespasses.
We must repent of our sins of omission and commission covering sins we are unaware we may have committed against Jesus.
I prefer humility.
Terri3210 2 years ago
Amen! Thank you for your comment.
edwardpf123 2 years ago
Thank you for the comment!
edwardpf123 2 years ago
If we could work with sinless perfection, why would we need a new glorified body?
Good video bro. Edward. Let the Bible define itself.
The Lord knoweth them that are His.
hier0phant 2 years ago
Amen brother, good point.
Thank you for your comment.
edwardpf123 2 years ago
We need a glorified body so we can have no more pain or tears and ect... Not (willful) sin in which through the Holy Spirit we overcome in our flesh, because IF we walk after the Spirit we shall NOT fulfill the lust of the flesh...To him who KNOWETH to do good to him it is a sin...Your teaching is lack of FAITH in the POWER of Jesus BLOOD...
HolySpiritDwells 2 years ago
Yes, IF we do walk by the Spirit we won't sin. I am not saying that a Christian HAS to sin. But 1Jn.1:8 makes it very clear that every Christian will continue to sin as long as we have these fleshly bodies.
edwardpf123 2 years ago
amen,,, these unbelievers reject the power of Jesus and embrace false doctrine that excuses sinning..
they have a unholy spirit! and walk in sin...
openairpreacher 2 years ago
No, growing Christians recognize that they will sin and use 1Jn.1:9 to get back into fellowship. Ofcourse, you think when you commit a sin in ignorance God doesn't count that as a sin. So, you just deny the reality of God's absolute holiness.
edwardpf123 2 years ago
Amen,
Rom 7. Paul talks about this. Amen
Danny
simplydannygirl 2 years ago
Amen sister, that chapter makes it very clear that a war goes on between the believer and his flesh.
Thank you for your comment.
edwardpf123 2 years ago
Couldn't agree more. When will people learn that there's a balance between license to sin and sinless perfection?
ChristianTruthHammer 2 years ago
I suppose they will learn it when they actually believe what the Bible says instead of their own human reasoning.
Thank you for your comments!
edwardpf123 2 years ago
Good message, too much of a soft approach with the truth of the Word of God these days, and the end result.....well we see it all around us, in the Church as well much to our shame.
abby0campbell 2 years ago
Thank you for your comment!
edwardpf123 2 years ago
Great video brother Ed.
AlCh1990 2 years ago
Thank you for your comment brother!
edwardpf123 2 years ago
That's right. Even if you didn't know it was wrong, it's still wrong. I mean, in the Old Testament it talks about what someone who sins unknowingly should do once he finds out he has trespassed.
I like you, brother Edward.
You have some good doctrine in that head of yours. Don't stop making videos.'
They are great !
Because of His blood,
Kloudes
Kloudes 2 years ago
Thank you. Yes, if it is an unknown sin it still breaks fellowship with the Holy Spirit and He now must discpline us for that sin.
Thank you for those kind and encouraging words.
edwardpf123 2 years ago
great video
always look forward to seeing what you have to say
may God bless you
jinkyfc 2 years ago
Thank you for your comment!
May God bless you also.
edwardpf123 2 years ago
Great teaching there brother Ed!
icartoon2 2 years ago
Thank you for your comment!
edwardpf123 2 years ago
Good word bro.
2Tim 3:15: And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16: All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
A man can be made complete, (fully equipped to know, and perform service).
kjvonly01 2 years ago
Thank you brother for your comment!
edwardpf123 2 years ago
Yeah, "perfection" is Greek word "teleios", which actually means "completion" in maturation. English "perfect" is okay if you understand that in English, "to perfect" means to complete a CONTRACT -- here, for our maturation, which Christ prayed for, in John 17:20-23. Hebrews' use of the verb teleiow, usu. translated "perfect", has this completion meaning.
Now for a scary post-script. I didn't know KJV used "perfect" in John 17:23 until AFTER typing, and looking up the verse for confirmation.
brainouty 2 years ago
Yes, the word 'perfect' never means sinless, it means to be complete. A sinner may still have a 'perfect'(complete) heart in that his heart is directed towards God, as was the case of David.
Yet, he is still a sinner and has to deal with the sins and the break in fellowship with God by using 1Jn.1:9.
Thank you for your comments.
edwardpf123 2 years ago
Amen brother Edward , the Lord bless you, love in Christ , bro Ron I PETER CHAPTER 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
ronaldlavigne 2 years ago
Thank you for your comments!
edwardpf123 2 years ago
yes, very good video edwardpf123,
Just the video I've been lookin for.
Thanks :)
LOLFunny687 2 years ago
Thank you for your comment!
edwardpf123 2 years ago
The holiness guys quote, "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins," (Heb 10:26) as the proof-text for their doctrine.
I knew an Assemblies of God preacher who claimed he never sinned "wilfully" since 1975. That was the magic word, "wilfully," to cover up 30 years of sinning!
And, of course all of the book of Hebrews doesn't necessarily apply doctrinally to the Church-age (like that verse).
Good presentation.
TheMackQuigleyReport 2 years ago
Yes, Heb.10:26 is dealing with a Christian who willfully rejects the truth of God's words (see Pr.1:24-32) and turns his back on God. He doesn't lose his salvation but God will deal with him in discipline (Heb.12, 1Cor.5:5)
Sin always breaks fellowship with God and thus, the Holy Spirit is grieved.(Eph.4:30). The difference is in the amount of discipline the individual receives, a 'babe' will receive less then an 'elder' since the elder was responsible for more (Lk.12)
edwardpf123 2 years ago