@gmt3010 yes, I have to agree that this is part of why I am having trouble processing the film. But Rick's reply to your comment is good too, mentioning the pacing, Euro in approach. That the guy just steps out like he does, well, maybe it could happen. We just don't know all the details as to why he does, and that is sorta realistic from a witness's POV. The witness doesn't always know the motive! I also think, maybe a comparison is being drawn between gun dealers & war correspondents.
This film and "Last Tango" I saw back to back (VHS), both are difficult for me to process, do you know what I mean? I believe I understand and sort of like "Last Tango." I'm still working on this one, though I believe this little capsule does help me a bit. I want to fill-in the pieces, like at the end, the black guy is supposed to walk by that window, just before... well I shouldn't want to spoil it! Nice vid Rick!
@Awwa1 His motivation is the notion that the director is everything. Actors are only props, and the lack of skill in pacing. Because it's so off-beat, people say ooh and ah. This isn't Bergman, where there is so much imagery a lot happening. I think BillyS is so talented he can make any director look good. Still Antinoni is another European (read: Italian) self indulgent directors.
@gmt3010 perhaps you are right about his being overly self-indulgent, at least as compared to the way that we Americans like everything spoon fed to us. Sometimes leaving a little of the story open, leaving a little space, is not necessarily an omission. Would you say that Kubrick is indulgent in this way too? Some of his films have an immense amount of just time passing. Visually beautiful, stunning even. And that is okay with me. Just curious, how do you feel about Kubrick by comparison?
@Awwa1 Oh please. Kubrick is an immense talent. Don't even go there about Americans and "spoon feed" rational for wanting to be a painter and majoring in films instead. I don't see where this is visually stunning. You like words, ought to stick to that.
@gmt3010 sure, words are good. But one doesn't have to resort to personal snipes, when one's argument is supportable by the facts. Thanks for a refreshing conversation! You too, have a fabulous way with words! Five stars!*****
@Awwa1 missed my point. all i read is cliche and fawning. visually stunning? trite. . The Passenger, to me, is like wallpaper paste compared to the Duelist, which is like cake icing.
@gmt3010 It is well and good that you do not consider The Passenger “visually stunning.” I’m sorry to say that your opinion impresses as little as your handling of English.
@gmt3010 Familiar with Henri Bergson? There is time that is measured and time experienced. Antonioni is important not because he held pretty-pretty shots too long, but because he introduced and developed the character’s relationship with time as an expressive element in filmmaking. How long something takes to happen can be just as important as the thing-in-itself; especially if the true narrative--and adventure--of a man's life is internal. “Suggestive” cinema over vulgar cinema.
@gmt3010 Antonioni’s film is more than--to use your own poor phrase–merely “off-beat.” Antonioni was not a “painter.” Painting is a static art; cinema relies on rhythm; and The Passenger is measured at various “deliberate” speeds. The overall pace is never fully-static, but hauntingly tranquil; ironically [and intentionally] the opposite of the character’s world. As far Antonioni making the film alone...Well, do you really think that architects produce their work alone? The answer: yes and no.
@gmt3010 The Passenger is, compared broadly, not a very predictable picture. What does it matter if you can reckon whether a particular character will survive or not? [Isn’t it always fifty-fifty?] Considering that you claim “The Duelist” is "cake icing" [I have no idea what you are talking about], I won't hold you to your self-pitying, odd, bitter, proselytizing spew--all apparently from being damaged by a movie that you should’ve long forgotten. Why--as an adult--revel in such negativity?
@thepodeltaitaly You are taking this way way too seriously. You don't have enough to do. why don't you write a blog? You are ridiculous, veering off into non-sequitors and other comments that are in outter space. I don't think he's such a great director. Whateveer the heck the above comment is about, you need to find your voice because your comments are like money, you know the price of words, nothing about the value of their meaning.
@thepodeltaitaly Wow now that I think about, I didn't realize my words has such power over you. You need to read what you wrote. You stopped having a point after your first remark.
@gmt3010 It is important that one has a firm grasp of Antonioni's intentions and approach. His intention is not--like other directors--to film "behavior" or stories, instead it is the interior that interests Antononi. This changes how performance, editing and the camera are used. Comparing this director's style to others’ style without acknowledging the differences in content/form is useless and ineffectual. Nothing I wrote is pointless--simply not enough space to fully explain.
@thepodeltaitaly Your comments weren't about Antinioni. If you had any real thoughts on him, you'd focus on what you think about him is worthwhile. Your comments were off point, little more than personal attacks, totally out of space and time. I reported it to Youtube. You want to talk film, talk film. You went on in a personal attack. You must think you write well. If you sink to personal attacks, you lost the debate, and show you can't think critically (not in a movie sense) you have no lo
@gmt3010 I have to add this: Passenger was also predictable. As soon as he changed i.d. with the dead guy, you knew nicholson's character would be killed. It was so obvious. The long shot at the end maybe art to some, but it is just recording life as it happens. I think movies are magic,. But the pace of life shocks because it is off-beat. People say "ooh." Last: Maria Schneider is an okay actress, but she seems to be acting. She got so known because of Brando's extraordinary work in Tango.
I have to add this: Passenger was also predictable. As soon as he changed i.d. with the dead guy, you knew nicholson's character would be killed. It was so obvious. The long shot at the end maybe art to some, but it is just recording life as it happens. I think movies are magic,. But the pace of life shocks because it is off-beat. People say "ooh." Last: Maria Schneider is an okay actress, but she seems to be acting. She got so known because of Brando's extraordinary work in Tango.
nice vid, great editing. now i'm on a search for Antonioni & Mary Butterworth. :-) that music brings me a feeling of sentimental yearning for some reason, sounds like something from Easy Rider. you've piqued my interest!
this is not only one of my favorite antonioni films, but one of my favorite films of all time. i can't explain why. it's like part wish fulfillment, part exploration of identity in the western world, all trance.
it's my favorite nicholson performance, and i think it's one of his favorites too. a good relationship between one of the great actors and a director who had viewed actors as props. i wish they had made more films together. what a perfect creative fit, in some strange way.
I remember this flick like it was yesterday ! Loved it, but I feel "Blow Up" was the better Antonioni film. Movies in any genre are different for different people ... That is what makes the whole process fun for all of us. Nicholson is probably our best actor ! My own favorite Jack flick is "Chinatown". Subjective huh?
:33 is a "Signature" Rick moment for me. The PERFECT Marriage of Movement, Mood, Muscle and Music. And although Rick has a LOT of other talents in his editing Arsenal, I love these little "buttons" he employs.
My god was Maria Schneider sexy. I need to revisit this Film. And can an Actor wannabe ever see enuf Jack Nicholson?
LOVED THE Song, Rick... Editing is 5+++ Stars!!! FANTASTIC!!
I don't think a lot of people will agree with me on this, but "The Passenger" is my favorite Antonioni film. And "L'Avventura." Again, Rick: great video.
@JA101K Well, I don't know about you but for me, it goes something like this: I see "The Passenger" and I think IT'S the best Antonioni. And I'm satisfied with that. Until I see "Blow-Up" and then IT'S the Best. And then I see "L'Aventura" and I think ... Well, you can see where I'm going with this. LOL!
Fine actrees!!. Great film!!.
EVELYNEMIL 1 year ago
... some fine passenger just get it right today, on that wonderful piece ! *****
fancynot 1 year ago
Rest in peace Maria Schnieder.
BrickLaneBetty 1 year ago
R.I.P. Maria Schneider. You are missed.
billysscreeningroom2 1 year ago
@billysscreeningroom2 so true. This film is beautiful. It could have happened.
BrickLaneBetty 1 year ago
@gmt3010 yes, I have to agree that this is part of why I am having trouble processing the film. But Rick's reply to your comment is good too, mentioning the pacing, Euro in approach. That the guy just steps out like he does, well, maybe it could happen. We just don't know all the details as to why he does, and that is sorta realistic from a witness's POV. The witness doesn't always know the motive! I also think, maybe a comparison is being drawn between gun dealers & war correspondents.
Awwa1 1 year ago
This film and "Last Tango" I saw back to back (VHS), both are difficult for me to process, do you know what I mean? I believe I understand and sort of like "Last Tango." I'm still working on this one, though I believe this little capsule does help me a bit. I want to fill-in the pieces, like at the end, the black guy is supposed to walk by that window, just before... well I shouldn't want to spoil it! Nice vid Rick!
Awwa1 1 year ago
@Awwa1 His motivation is the notion that the director is everything. Actors are only props, and the lack of skill in pacing. Because it's so off-beat, people say ooh and ah. This isn't Bergman, where there is so much imagery a lot happening. I think BillyS is so talented he can make any director look good. Still Antinoni is another European (read: Italian) self indulgent directors.
gmt3010 1 year ago
@gmt3010 perhaps you are right about his being overly self-indulgent, at least as compared to the way that we Americans like everything spoon fed to us. Sometimes leaving a little of the story open, leaving a little space, is not necessarily an omission. Would you say that Kubrick is indulgent in this way too? Some of his films have an immense amount of just time passing. Visually beautiful, stunning even. And that is okay with me. Just curious, how do you feel about Kubrick by comparison?
Awwa1 1 year ago
@Awwa1 Oh please. Kubrick is an immense talent. Don't even go there about Americans and "spoon feed" rational for wanting to be a painter and majoring in films instead. I don't see where this is visually stunning. You like words, ought to stick to that.
gmt3010 1 year ago
@gmt3010 sure, words are good. But one doesn't have to resort to personal snipes, when one's argument is supportable by the facts. Thanks for a refreshing conversation! You too, have a fabulous way with words! Five stars!*****
Peace,
\A/
Awwa1 1 year ago
@Awwa1 missed my point. all i read is cliche and fawning. visually stunning? trite. . The Passenger, to me, is like wallpaper paste compared to the Duelist, which is like cake icing.
gmt3010 1 year ago
@gmt3010 It is well and good that you do not consider The Passenger “visually stunning.” I’m sorry to say that your opinion impresses as little as your handling of English.
thepodeltaitaly 10 months ago
@gmt3010 Familiar with Henri Bergson? There is time that is measured and time experienced. Antonioni is important not because he held pretty-pretty shots too long, but because he introduced and developed the character’s relationship with time as an expressive element in filmmaking. How long something takes to happen can be just as important as the thing-in-itself; especially if the true narrative--and adventure--of a man's life is internal. “Suggestive” cinema over vulgar cinema.
thepodeltaitaly 10 months ago
@thepodeltaitaly You are ridiculous. Write a blog. You are in writing to see your words you are saying nothing.
This isn't about the film he made but some personal attack on someone you don't know. Try get a hold of yourself. I fear you will have a heart attack.
gmt3010 10 months ago
@gmt3010 Antonioni’s film is more than--to use your own poor phrase–merely “off-beat.” Antonioni was not a “painter.” Painting is a static art; cinema relies on rhythm; and The Passenger is measured at various “deliberate” speeds. The overall pace is never fully-static, but hauntingly tranquil; ironically [and intentionally] the opposite of the character’s world. As far Antonioni making the film alone...Well, do you really think that architects produce their work alone? The answer: yes and no.
thepodeltaitaly 10 months ago
@gmt3010 The Passenger is, compared broadly, not a very predictable picture. What does it matter if you can reckon whether a particular character will survive or not? [Isn’t it always fifty-fifty?] Considering that you claim “The Duelist” is "cake icing" [I have no idea what you are talking about], I won't hold you to your self-pitying, odd, bitter, proselytizing spew--all apparently from being damaged by a movie that you should’ve long forgotten. Why--as an adult--revel in such negativity?
thepodeltaitaly 10 months ago
@thepodeltaitaly You are taking this way way too seriously. You don't have enough to do. why don't you write a blog? You are ridiculous, veering off into non-sequitors and other comments that are in outter space. I don't think he's such a great director. Whateveer the heck the above comment is about, you need to find your voice because your comments are like money, you know the price of words, nothing about the value of their meaning.
gmt3010 10 months ago
@thepodeltaitaly Wow now that I think about, I didn't realize my words has such power over you. You need to read what you wrote. You stopped having a point after your first remark.
gmt3010 10 months ago
@gmt3010 It is important that one has a firm grasp of Antonioni's intentions and approach. His intention is not--like other directors--to film "behavior" or stories, instead it is the interior that interests Antononi. This changes how performance, editing and the camera are used. Comparing this director's style to others’ style without acknowledging the differences in content/form is useless and ineffectual. Nothing I wrote is pointless--simply not enough space to fully explain.
thepodeltaitaly 10 months ago
@thepodeltaitaly Your comments weren't about Antinioni. If you had any real thoughts on him, you'd focus on what you think about him is worthwhile. Your comments were off point, little more than personal attacks, totally out of space and time. I reported it to Youtube. You want to talk film, talk film. You went on in a personal attack. You must think you write well. If you sink to personal attacks, you lost the debate, and show you can't think critically (not in a movie sense) you have no lo
gmt3010 10 months ago
@gmt3010 I have to add this: Passenger was also predictable. As soon as he changed i.d. with the dead guy, you knew nicholson's character would be killed. It was so obvious. The long shot at the end maybe art to some, but it is just recording life as it happens. I think movies are magic,. But the pace of life shocks because it is off-beat. People say "ooh." Last: Maria Schneider is an okay actress, but she seems to be acting. She got so known because of Brando's extraordinary work in Tango.
gmt3010 1 year ago
I have to add this: Passenger was also predictable. As soon as he changed i.d. with the dead guy, you knew nicholson's character would be killed. It was so obvious. The long shot at the end maybe art to some, but it is just recording life as it happens. I think movies are magic,. But the pace of life shocks because it is off-beat. People say "ooh." Last: Maria Schneider is an okay actress, but she seems to be acting. She got so known because of Brando's extraordinary work in Tango.
gmt3010 1 year ago
Jack was really sexy
teodolite90 1 year ago
nice vid, great editing. now i'm on a search for Antonioni & Mary Butterworth. :-) that music brings me a feeling of sentimental yearning for some reason, sounds like something from Easy Rider. you've piqued my interest!
BluSarahNamaste 1 year ago
I remember that 360 degree tracking shot in the movie! Antonioni Brilliant!
reelden 1 year ago
i love it ..
thanks for sharing
SYL
SYLVIE131501 1 year ago
this is not only one of my favorite antonioni films, but one of my favorite films of all time. i can't explain why. it's like part wish fulfillment, part exploration of identity in the western world, all trance.
it's my favorite nicholson performance, and i think it's one of his favorites too. a good relationship between one of the great actors and a director who had viewed actors as props. i wish they had made more films together. what a perfect creative fit, in some strange way.
MrLevari17 1 year ago
Jack is one my favorites movie star. And she...of course is gougeous. Thanks for sharing.
machadoneto41 1 year ago
I moved the Hammond B3 for MB all around SoCal in the late 60s.
SyvetheShairks 1 year ago
I remember this flick like it was yesterday ! Loved it, but I feel "Blow Up" was the better Antonioni film. Movies in any genre are different for different people ... That is what makes the whole process fun for all of us. Nicholson is probably our best actor ! My own favorite Jack flick is "Chinatown". Subjective huh?
mickyblue247 1 year ago
I was shocked at how much I loved this movie....Nicholson is wonderful.
TheSuppActress 1 year ago
:33 is a "Signature" Rick moment for me. The PERFECT Marriage of Movement, Mood, Muscle and Music. And although Rick has a LOT of other talents in his editing Arsenal, I love these little "buttons" he employs.
My god was Maria Schneider sexy. I need to revisit this Film. And can an Actor wannabe ever see enuf Jack Nicholson?
LOVED THE Song, Rick... Editing is 5+++ Stars!!! FANTASTIC!!
johnnywolfnyc 1 year ago
Me encanta Jack!!!!!!!!
Un saludo.
coci.
cocineramoderna 1 year ago
Nice editing skills. I discovered Mary Butterworth through your videos. Thanks again for the inspired music choices.
TheNEWfilmfanatic99 1 year ago
Love this! Love Jack Nicholson!
TexasMom17 1 year ago
@TexasMom17 So good to hear from you1 Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment!
billysscreeningroom2 1 year ago
Absolutely gorgeous! Gotta love Jack!
vicepresidentfru1tly 1 year ago 2
I don't think a lot of people will agree with me on this, but "The Passenger" is my favorite Antonioni film. And "L'Avventura." Again, Rick: great video.
JA101K 1 year ago 3
@JA101K Well, I don't know about you but for me, it goes something like this: I see "The Passenger" and I think IT'S the best Antonioni. And I'm satisfied with that. Until I see "Blow-Up" and then IT'S the Best. And then I see "L'Aventura" and I think ... Well, you can see where I'm going with this. LOL!
Thank you for commenting!!!
billysscreeningroom2 1 year ago
@billysscreeningroom2 HAHA!! Damn true. You rule, man. You truly do.
~Jeff
JA101K 1 year ago
Great choice! I just saw this for the first time last year and loved it.
ThorC1138 1 year ago