@r4sh89 completely agree. i cannot get rid of psychic dependance on his music. i am listening to his music for about ten years, and i have to confess: some of the moments are - like a drug: you need it!
@Klomsten this is extremem experimental music, if there wasn't this music, there wasn't the music you dance now in the disco , techno music comes from this one!
It's kind of like you're listening to an existentialist radio station while working on a construction site (or subway) on a really foggy and/or cold winter's morning (like3-7am).
simply a Masterpiece!!! Lot of ambient of these days and other followers of his work are just devolution of this sound. Or rather say that, students are still not equal to lectors.
Musique concrète, only heard of its existence today. This stuff made modern electronic music what it is so stop hating on it and appreciate that it was made in 1948!
Every genre has its greats and some greats for great reasons. To solely judge music on the complexity of harmony alone, or the width of a fat beat is absurd. See why people like it. If its the context your disagree with, then thats fair enough, you wont see any good in it.
@darkblitzrz8 Oh for sure, thats a good reason to hate!
Way I see it, try not to hate the game, hate the player. Hip-hop started getting sucky when pop got a'hold of it, much like any genre before and after. Now that pop has latched more heavily onto electronic Dance, I think Hip-hop should have some room to regroup and grow.
1948: i know, holy crap! I have fantasized about sending a band like sonic youth into the past. and it was already done! i cannot believe this is the first i have heard of this. why is this character not openly herald as the revolutionary bands today are getting credit for? this is a huge crux in the history of music! again, why is he relatively hidden in the annals of sounds? there should be a MTV documentary on this dude... ha....ha MTV... that reminds me, i should visit the bathroom
@mediocritas2extremes man, the sheeps of music can not understand thins, they consider this as shit, even if the music of nowadays comes from this piece of art! let live pierre schaeffer in the ones who really appreciates ral music revolution! R.I.P. PIERRE SCHAEFFER LEGEND!
When I first heard Musique concrète, some compositions scared me and some I struggled to listen to the whole piece. It was part of my school home work. I was a big fan of Jean Michelle Jarre, Vangelis and New Order etc. 23 years later i appreciate how ahead of their time these recordings where.....they planted the seeds for so much beautiful electronic music i hear today. These recording still haunt me....
First off, there are harmonies and pitched sounds in this piece, secondly, there are patterns and structures to the "noise", just like there are patterns and structures to the classical music that precedes it. It's not all that different you see.
couldn't agree more! These guys sure didn't apply as much 'pop' sensibility as those two bands. but edgar varese and piere schaeffer and the like.. music like a lot of other things is, as Newton put it built on the "shoulders of giants".
check out a former black metal band named "Ulver" and an album called "Lykantropen themes" which is a sound track for a short independent film. It presents a more modern ideology of musique concrete.
Actually it's the precursor to minimalistic techno as well, as he was the first to use recording as an arrangement tool, something minimalistic techno people picked up on.
I just have to say that this song is an amazing work of art, but I don't really consider it music. Don't yell at me for this, but I think that this is just a bunch of sounds put together and I could have done this in five minutes, and the only reason you guys think it is cool is because it is efferent.
To understand msuique concrete, you need to understand Schaefferian thery and Schaeffer's work. I suggest reading "Solfege D'Le Objet Sonore", a treatise on musical philosophy and theoretics by Schaeffer.
From what I've read, Schaefferian theory has very little to do (nothing, in fact) with emotion references or catharsis. From the perspective of the audience, the attitude towards the listening of Schaeffer's works should be of the acousmatic perception.
Generally speaking: ignore what that sound might "mean" to you, focus on the sound phenomenon itself.
From what I've read, Schaefferian theory has very little to do (nothing, in fact) with emotion references or catharsis. From the perspective of the audience, the attitude towards the listening of Schaeffer's works should be of the acousmatic perception.
Generally speaking: ignore what that sound might "mean" to you, focus on the sound phenomenon itself.
this is music definitely, just it sounds like a muderer cowering in the sewers of paris. strangely captivating
sheafy121 2 weeks ago
I'm not entirely sure how I got here and now I'm afraid to leave.
Nice tune though.
Michellerooster6 2 months ago
PIERRE CHAEFFER WAS A EFFING GENIUS!!
r4sh89 3 months ago
@r4sh89 completely agree. i cannot get rid of psychic dependance on his music. i am listening to his music for about ten years, and i have to confess: some of the moments are - like a drug: you need it!
robertfuchsmusician 2 months ago
pioneers of sound engineering. much respect.
OneQuest1 3 months ago
Reminds me of Silent Hill 3
Marottp 3 months ago
@Marottp LOL, it does!
Tsicar 20 hours ago
I cannot understand why more people do not appreciate this. I hear life here.
I am not sure about people that say this not music... if we call it "not music" how does it make it any less compelly. this is great I like this.
OBSysteme 4 months ago
@OBSysteme compelly=compeling
OBSysteme 4 months ago
@Klomsten its Musique Concrete, and it has nothing to do with the fact that its from 1948, if you don't like it then don't talk shit you poop.
stalkerP00Q 5 months ago
what the f*** is this? it's cool that it's from 1948. but hey, that does not make this song/sound or whatever any better... just face it people
Klomsten 5 months ago
@Klomsten this is extremem experimental music, if there wasn't this music, there wasn't the music you dance now in the disco , techno music comes from this one!
r4sh89 3 months ago
Brilliant stuff. Asmus Tietchens claimed that he set out to make music that did not exist yet. Not quite... (A.T. is great, though)
Micowoco 6 months ago
2 x It's BETTER ! ...
fritagogo1 7 months ago
Notre MAESTRO en musique concrète & électronique en FRANCE...
GRM Paris ; ORTF television ; Animation, PUB, etc...
Destructuration de la composition classique pour faire du moderne...
Montrer d'autre horizon de composer...
Pierre Henry; Pierre Boulez, même Jean Michel Jarre et passé par là etc...
C'est notre BASE, et POURQUOI PAS!... Hein ! Il faut bien commencer un jour !
PROUT ! ZUT et FLûte ! BIP ! SPOC ! TIIIWww ! SBONG ! SPLATCH! HAHAHAHA !
Martignat ex élève en électroacoustique !
fritagogo1 7 months ago
Notre MAESTRO en musique concrète & électronique en FRANCE...
GRM Paris ; ORTF television ; Animation, PUB, etc...
Destructuration de la composition classique pour faire du moderne...
Montrer d'autre horizon de composer...
Pierre Henry; Pierre Boulez, même Jean Michel Jarre et passé par là etc...
C'est notre BASE, et POURQUOI PAS!... Hein ! Il faut bien commencer un jour !
PROUT ! ZUT et FLûte ! BIP ! SPOC ! TIIIWww ! SBONG ! SPLATCH! HAHAHAHA !
Martignat ex élève en electroacousmatique !
fritagogo1 7 months ago
epitome of audio sublimity.
brumak 9 months ago
that.. was fucking amazing.
crocodilewerewolf 9 months ago
It's kind of like you're listening to an existentialist radio station while working on a construction site (or subway) on a really foggy and/or cold winter's morning (like3-7am).
Rampagge1 10 months ago
Choooooooooooooooooon!!!!
Achilles2397 1 year ago
J'ai découvert aujourd'hui Pierre Schaeffer et je crois bien que je vais écouter tout ce que je trouve sur lui ;-)
doubleXchris 1 year ago
simply a Masterpiece!!! Lot of ambient of these days and other followers of his work are just devolution of this sound. Or rather say that, students are still not equal to lectors.
TWORable 1 year ago
wtf ?
levdimy 1 year ago 2
Chromatic Phonogene make this..
funkberto 1 year ago
I don't know why people think without a beat or melody, something is not music. Music is just the art of sound. Art takes many, many forms.
bnsDFerguson 1 year ago
@bnsDFerguson AGREED... its not just paint on canvas
darkblitzrz8 1 year ago
Musique concrète, only heard of its existence today. This stuff made modern electronic music what it is so stop hating on it and appreciate that it was made in 1948!
MrAlochai 1 year ago
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What the fuck is this shit ._.
EurelioTortuga 1 year ago
Someone put a fat hiphop beat over this, please.
mongoliandude 1 year ago
@mongoliandude LMFAO!!! whoooo hoooo buddy!!!
Zaetix 1 year ago
@mongoliandude please dont ... im so tired of hip hop ... that wanna be genre ....
lol funny thing is that im blacker than saitins toe nails.... PFFT .hip hop
omg experimental all the way ..the genre of the future ..how bout now
darkblitzrz8 1 year ago
@darkblitzrz8
Err...your lost.
Every genre has its greats and some greats for great reasons. To solely judge music on the complexity of harmony alone, or the width of a fat beat is absurd. See why people like it. If its the context your disagree with, then thats fair enough, you wont see any good in it.
And whos to argue that rapping isn't neo-poetry?
Think out some x
mongoliandude 1 year ago
@mongoliandude trust me i wasnt judging hippity hip hop....
i just liek experimental ..anything now....
living in the hip hop world ..made me dislike it because of how fake the poeple acted like its something they were... i
but wat do i know .. seeing as how i only produce beats./ without lyrics...
darkblitzrz8 1 year ago
@darkblitzrz8 Oh for sure, thats a good reason to hate!
Way I see it, try not to hate the game, hate the player. Hip-hop started getting sucky when pop got a'hold of it, much like any genre before and after. Now that pop has latched more heavily onto electronic Dance, I think Hip-hop should have some room to regroup and grow.
Hip-hop? Watch this space! x
mongoliandude 1 year ago
I feel like this is the most melodic music concrete piece I've listened to in a while
ficsci 1 year ago
1948: i know, holy crap! I have fantasized about sending a band like sonic youth into the past. and it was already done! i cannot believe this is the first i have heard of this. why is this character not openly herald as the revolutionary bands today are getting credit for? this is a huge crux in the history of music! again, why is he relatively hidden in the annals of sounds? there should be a MTV documentary on this dude... ha....ha MTV... that reminds me, i should visit the bathroom
mediocritas2extremes 1 year ago
@mediocritas2extremes sadly, mostly only the pretentious academics appreciate him...
Oesktchohova 8 months ago
@mediocritas2extremes man, the sheeps of music can not understand thins, they consider this as shit, even if the music of nowadays comes from this piece of art! let live pierre schaeffer in the ones who really appreciates ral music revolution! R.I.P. PIERRE SCHAEFFER LEGEND!
r4sh89 3 months ago
First Noisecore?
Swars23BX 1 year ago
@Swars23BX
first of everything in electronic music
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When I first heard Musique concrète, some compositions scared me and some I struggled to listen to the whole piece. It was part of my school home work. I was a big fan of Jean Michelle Jarre, Vangelis and New Order etc. 23 years later i appreciate how ahead of their time these recordings where.....they planted the seeds for so much beautiful electronic music i hear today. These recording still haunt me....
roms303 1 year ago
1948 wow...
ChildofTones 1 year ago 18
unfassbar^^
LittleFluffyKraut 1 year ago
the sound of life. weird, noisy, twisty, beautiful.
guillz 1 year ago
Well, it's just noises ^^
What's the point of this?
centinex88 1 year ago
First off, there are harmonies and pitched sounds in this piece, secondly, there are patterns and structures to the "noise", just like there are patterns and structures to the classical music that precedes it. It's not all that different you see.
Nachtmarchen 1 year ago
I do not think so, you really have to dig deep to find any structure to this mess...
centinex88 1 year ago
centinex88: it's called "Musique concrète" :)
duesterheit 1 year ago
Yeah, I know that, but I was just wondering *where* is the "music" in this...
centinex88 1 year ago
this was pretty interesting music. I like it.
henryburner 2 years ago
Thank you for this piece.
Catachrise 2 years ago
Original Sin & Taxman sampled this for their tune "'97 Style"
Lemanic89 2 years ago
This makes the Ummagumma album by PINK FLOYD sound like a walk in the park...
deadkittens666 2 years ago 24
@deadkittens666 Vai a cagare
Pietroprog 5 months ago
This is a beautiful piece.
HeartsFlame 2 years ago
I love this piece and your film corrsponds exactly to tis title by the choix of pure black !
Best whishes and congratulations from Ö¨l+Ö?*
62OLOHN 2 years ago
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logosfails 2 years ago
This is the first musique concrète track i find nice.
Doyubi 2 years ago
I think "Beaubourg" by Vangelis is an hommage to this kind of pionneers in electronic music.
Theotim92 2 years ago
kind of aesthetically pleasing.
Gaiacarra 2 years ago
i think that artists like sigur ros and mum have to thank a lot the concrete music..
r4sh89 2 years ago
couldn't agree more! These guys sure didn't apply as much 'pop' sensibility as those two bands. but edgar varese and piere schaeffer and the like.. music like a lot of other things is, as Newton put it built on the "shoulders of giants".
cruise332 2 years ago
one of my favorite musique concrete songs ever
TannerLovesPi 2 years ago 2
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god this sucks
wolfmotherwilleatyou 2 years ago
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you are a boring faggot
TheEarlOfDublin 2 years ago
aren't we all.
logosfails 2 years ago 2
Agreed. It's my favorite piece by Schaeffer.
7Row7enn7 2 years ago
Hello Everyone!....I'm new to the genre, Any other Suggested listening from this artist or others??.... much appreciated.
skrbeleven 2 years ago
Pierre Henry, Iannis Xennakis.
7Row7enn7 2 years ago
Reminds me a lot more of Burial's strange beat style.
DB5tothehive 2 years ago
That means that nothing is new, really.
Music Circle of Life is finnished.
Lemanic89 2 years ago
no, i don't think so:it's like you know: nothing ever borns, nothing ever dies, but everything is changing form and evolving...
r4sh89 2 years ago
check out a former black metal band named "Ulver" and an album called "Lykantropen themes" which is a sound track for a short independent film. It presents a more modern ideology of musique concrete.
uglyguido 3 years ago
No that's just industrial.
HO2 3 years ago 3
I still have much to learn I guess
uglyguido 3 years ago 2
This is like the precursor to drone and noise.
COMB0 3 years ago
Actually it's the precursor to minimalistic techno as well, as he was the first to use recording as an arrangement tool, something minimalistic techno people picked up on.
HO2 3 years ago
These compositions are WAY more enthusiastic and explorative than Drone or any of the 'experimentation for it's own sake' of today.
akeefe 2 years ago 2
Il faut savoir que Pierre Schaeffer a réalisé la plus grande partie de ses travaux vers les années 1960, la technologie n'était pas la même.
De plus, il est ingénieur, et non musicien.
Son travail consistait surtout à montrer qu'on pouvait créer des pièces "musicales" à partir de sons concrèts et de machines récentes.
Griceur 3 years ago
I just have to say that this song is an amazing work of art, but I don't really consider it music. Don't yell at me for this, but I think that this is just a bunch of sounds put together and I could have done this in five minutes, and the only reason you guys think it is cool is because it is efferent.
Johni22 3 years ago
could you have put it together in 5 minutes at the time it was made? would you have even known how to?
backgroundcamel 3 years ago 4
To understand msuique concrete, you need to understand Schaefferian thery and Schaeffer's work. I suggest reading "Solfege D'Le Objet Sonore", a treatise on musical philosophy and theoretics by Schaeffer.
7Row7enn7 3 years ago
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DrownInTheSink 3 years ago
its interesting everyone sees significant emotions in this piece, its possibly my favorite out of all his work.
otacon451 3 years ago
the beginnin
cassyit 3 years ago
Absolutely amazing.
AcidBloodInfusion 3 years ago
#9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9
derekhanger 3 years ago
Sounds like early Laibach.
vokshumana 3 years ago
You only have to see when Laibach's from to figure out they are influenced by Schaeffer. Come on!
andrecornal 3 years ago
awesome!
marzenun 3 years ago
excelente... its a shame some people do not apreciate musique concrete
eduardoh7 3 years ago
Excelente
riodanubio69 3 years ago
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A musical representation of man's epistemological despair. How sobering and sad.
k3riguma 3 years ago
Pain is often an outlet for the artist. It leads to greater crativity.
7Row7enn7 3 years ago 2
From what I've read, Schaefferian theory has very little to do (nothing, in fact) with emotion references or catharsis. From the perspective of the audience, the attitude towards the listening of Schaeffer's works should be of the acousmatic perception.
Generally speaking: ignore what that sound might "mean" to you, focus on the sound phenomenon itself.
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From what I've read, Schaefferian theory has very little to do (nothing, in fact) with emotion references or catharsis. From the perspective of the audience, the attitude towards the listening of Schaeffer's works should be of the acousmatic perception.
Generally speaking: ignore what that sound might "mean" to you, focus on the sound phenomenon itself.
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19F/Cali here - MSG me on M.S.N. ID is in my profile.
im bored =( x8
LilMissEmo13 3 years ago
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fuck the fuck off you fucking fuck
7Row7enn7 2 years ago
Very Spooky, There is beuty in the chaos.
paulbrockenhagen 3 years ago 3
Chaos is beauty.
FeyriVs 3 years ago
Beautiful in such a subtle and unique way.
7Row7enn7 3 years ago 3
work of true genius
ganjaman986 3 years ago 2
awesome.
massivepinkdildo 3 years ago 4
i love too much ^^
ml'
KANNETTES 3 years ago
cool.
kovacsgaga 3 years ago