Behind the News - 26/6/2007 - Corporal Punishment

[JezVN]

When I'm at the point in my life where I feel that I can relate more to who Virginia Woolf was like, that is a major problem, yet I've learned to accept it.

Why do I make this statement? Because like Virginia, I witnessed students getting abused by the hands of a sadistic teacher, who really should be rotting in a damn prison cell. Virginia had an abusive mother, like me, and similar to me, grew up to have severe mental issues. The only difference is I don't hear birds talk to me in Greek.

[EnemyAC130Aboveu]

@supertruth77 that's not corporal punishment that's abuse

[EnemyAC130Aboveu]

I totally think that corporal punishment should be allowed I'm 14 and I'm in 9th grade in the u.s and so many kids are so disrespectful to my teachers that I want to knock them through the wall also suspensions don't solve any thing they just end up making the little brat mad and end up being more defiant when they come back

[TheGroundedAviator]

I'd say look at the enviroment in schools and ask why do kids act up in class anyway? Personal experence makes me think anyone would have a sense of disaplin if they feel commited too what they're doing and are focused on their goal. A school is not always the best place for a kid and they act out as they don't wan't too be there. There are other things as well.

[cjxmc]

Only kinky teachers spank

[the1Dfan67hs]

'Believe it or not children actually have rights!!' She sound like she just loves kids :/

[SuperKrabask]

I love to spank and get spanked, but I will never spank a child.

[fjbutch]

Bring it back, Didn't do me any harm,, I was a litle shit at times and deserved a good whack every now and then......just too many soft cocks around now...!

[Thaiteacher100]

@fjbutch Didnt do you any harm? Have you stopped to consdier that you have grown up to believe that assaulting children is OK? Many people use the "didnt do me any harm" argument without looking in the mirror first.

[pOiSoNxCr4zYxVID3OS]

You hit me I hit you 10 x harder that's how simple it is :)

[1Dudelove]

There is a very fine line between discipline and brutality.

If I ever see someone beat a helpless, defenceless small child or animal, I will kick the shit out of them.

It's very simple, "You beat the child...I beat YOU!"

[deadithink]

@1Dudelove Ah the vicarious version of the Old Testament realized in literary form. Kudos to you for being another violent American.

[harryhonky]

No need to use caning all around the world, it's good to hear this.

[Jonc101]

Biggest mistake ever made was banning the cane from Aussie schools. Discipline plunged and never got any better. I know, cause I was a teacher at that time.

[Kadiezi]

@Jonc101

Oh sure, because hitting/hurting -kids- is soooo right, and being peaceful or using reason without resorting to physical harm is just SO stupid in comparison. *sarcasm*

Seriously,-not- hurting people is a mistake? Please explain to me why anyone should have the right to physically harm another (besides in self defense).

[michael696925]

@Kadiezi all puppet masters, rather than admit they are so simple minded not to find the right solution so they go to the extreme and control a child via fear, which causes serial killers, in England we have a mass of both! Very few people ever get this! One too many smacks to the back of the head for these parents!

[dharmanova]

@Kadiezi I will give you an empirical, modern and a very scientific reason :-)There are cases when autistic children self-injure, and, I know you would say it's stupid to prevent from self-injuring by administering a moderate electric shock, but IT HAS BEEN EMPIRICALLY PROVEN TO SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE & ELIMINATE SELF-INJURIOUS BEHAVIOR, paradoxically.

INFO is from any 2nd, 3rd and 4th University level Cognitive/Learning Psychology texts.

You asked a question, - I answered it. ;-)

[Kadiezi]

@dharmanova

Also, I'm not a big fan of electro shock therapy, even as a last resort. If I'm not mistaken, there are a few possible side effects which are, how should I put it, enough of a problem to make it seem like an insane option.

[dharmanova]

@Kadiezi when a boy (7) mutilates his eyes it's not insane at all, believe me. If there were other options, - they were tried without success, while the clock was ticking for the boy. Then someone tried an insane solution and it worked. This is called experimental science & it saved the boys eyes.

You asked a question why anyone should (have the right to) hurt another except in self defense, and I provided a technicality. So now you know why and in which situations. Enjoy :-)

[dharmanova]

@Kadiezi Also. It's possible to effectively use corporal punishment that is not physically disabling & doesn't leave permanent marks for child behavior modification

Main reason it shouldn't be used, -it's impossible for any parent to punish disobedient/dangerous behavior methodically. MOOD of parent on a particular day greatly influences negative reinforcement or punishment contingencies.

This greatly reduces its effectiveness & will feel subj. unfair to the child, - hence emotional scarring

[Kadiezi]

@dharmanova

I wasn't exactly saying it's not possible to effectively use it, just that there are better alternatives that don't hurt anyone. Though I'd say it's sort of unlikely to do something like that without leaving permanent marks (not necessarily physical). Also, it may not be much of a reasonable argument, but just going on what's effective isn't quite enough reason for me, I also like to consider the persons feelings, even if they're only temporary.

[dharmanova]

@Kadiezi What I described is not electroshock therapy (ECT) LOL

ECT is performed on anesthetized, patients suffering from drug resistant psychological illnesses. (Not punishment)

I am a psychologist and my take on CP is: I advice parents TO NEVER USE IT , as I know that they're too emotionally involved to do it correctly. It's scarcely effective & hurts the child psychologically when done haphazardly

But I acknowledge rare institutional cases where CP is indispensable, like one I described

[ashcroft8]

it worked when I went to school....it was easy not to get spanked...just behave !!!

[DOBERMAN7203]

@ashcroft8 ohhh no no no no no. thats bad. spankings are just wrong and sexual

[bellaKohler]

@DOBERMAN7203 yea... its really sexual. And also really wrong. And then I'm not referring to the pain, most kids can live with that I gues...

its just plain wrong! :/

My grandparent got the cane at school and later, as an adult, he had many mental problems which were caused by being caned and whacked from a very young age... caning on kids destroys more than any of us would like...

[Echnadin]

@DOBERMAN7203 ... sexual? I believe that depends on your personal interests o.0

[carnut476]

@ashcroft8 Yes, Theachers and Parents need to be on spanking terms these young brats .

[clarkewi]

Lesbian feminists have taken over education. And look at the results - society is more violent since changing the laws. Look at Singapore - no violence in schools and high achievement. When something works, that's what you do.....duhhhhhh. Fricken communists.

[farmerne]

The UN is a corrupt organization largely dominated by third-world dictatorships.

[IloveRadials]

I want a young women to spank me so I can hurt her so badly she would need blood

[picassoui]

Spanking is a parental issue not a state issue and should only be used for serious infractions and not without prior warning ..The threat of being spanked is the worst part ..Some see this as a good thing i see it as wrong .. I think children who are old enough to know basic right from wrong should be told if you do item A..deliberately

then it will result in a spanking ..but never fear that out of the blue if i screw up dad is going to spank me ...

[bellaKohler]

I think that corporal punishment does most psychological damage when kids are young, then you absolutely MUSN'T do it. It can harm a child for his/hers life!!

Tho I have to add, that I believe there is a certain age where it doesn't harm the soul of a child so much any more. I am 15 now, and tho it might hurt and I would definitely don't like it, I don't think that I'd get problems if they smacked me now. Tho there has to be a proper reason, and I would find it extremely humiliating. So I say no

[basilization1]

People who say you should smack children are conspiring to assault children

[nealthedude]

@basilization1 I agree. It's also perverted to want to smack children, especially on their bottoms. Keep it in the bedroom between consenting adults. I think too many parents and teachers were getting a thrill out of it.

[KrillKrall]

YEAH SURE, stupid btn, WHAT ABOUT PHYSIOLOGICAL punishment, sometimes it can be far worse. 'specially when there is no evidence for it happening (like "whacking" where you can see bruises).

[DrUgSkIDOO]

i would let my hot french teacher spank my ass with a stick any day

[spankmymang0]

I was born at Dallas, TX. when I was in elementary we had school corporal punishment.

The Principal hits us with a paddle many times.

This has effected me in many ways. I never told my parents until I was 17yrs old, and I am 27 now.

Please ban corporal punishment in school.

[localguy8]

if spanking is allowed in the USA all this bullying and bad behaviour in school could be stopped.finally the kids in school would have a quiet time to study instead of all this disruption JUST LOOK THEY CAN,T READ , ADD WHEN THEY GET OUT FROM HIGH SCHOOL no wonder the GREAT usa is going down the tubes!!!!!!!!!

[atomicpizzabox]

oh no *smack*

[NBAfan1993]

im 12 years old nd here in egypt they use corporal punishment but it makes me stay straight nd i get afraid from the teachers if i do something wrong but its a good thing without it the people will be bad

[CodenameAdidas]

spank is foul. canning yesssssssssssss

[fluxmaden]

if kids don't feel the pinch of pain for doing something wrong, you will continue to think its ok to do wrong even when they reach adult. I love my singapore way of discipline, In this world of right and wrong, sometimes you need force to shape path you want to go.

[Stephen19852009]

its illegal to spank your kids in Germany? Far out!! makes me proud of my ancestry

[Idude893]

The only thing the cane is good for is firewood. Teach children through other devices, but not by violence.

[biginvt61]

No just the paddle on butt. Not a cane, that leaves welts

[glcep]

I don't know if caning is necessary or desirable for discipline, but imho loud cracks, louder "ow"s and "ouch"es and raised red welts are a hell of alotta fun!

[ponnie731]

either way it goes, all children who are fuckin bad should get tht assw whoop, p-arents aint doing shitt these days, they say they is but it aint showing nov way all they do is yell at them tht fuckin it. BULLSHIT NO GET THT ASS KICK AND IT DOES WORK!!!!!!!!!!!! ASSHOLE

[CodaCola]

All corporal punishment does is encourage disobedient kids to try harder in not getting caught. It does nothing to teach children right from wrong.

[jeweledmama2008]

Hell no! That's not the responsibility of the school nor the right. If any teacher or faculty member hit my child, they can expect to be arrested for abuse. If my child acted up in school, I will deal with the child my way.

[Dolphindream15]

the bottom line here is  hit ones ass like mine and get shitted on,,,your body fluids can be used as self defense,,never got hit because no one wanted shitted on,,,disease can come from that,,

[Dolphindream15]

I never got spanked or paddled or hit in any way I wouldnt allow it if any one went after my ass they got the shitt that came from it in todays world there are so many diseases,,all one would have to do is make a small cut on there arm and throw there blood at them,,the person tryin to spank that one will think twice about hitting some one if they caught a disease...and besides why does any one want to spank any ones butt when they know that shit comes from it,,

[nichts4444]

Ich habe hunger auf Currywurstmit pommmes

I m Craut

[willobi]

"T'cane bloddy cane lucky little bastrds in my day my father used to his us wit a plank of wood with t' rusty nail in t' plank lucky littel bastards you dont know you born."

[CH127]

Im 17 and I was raised with corporal punishment and in my opinon it worked. My parents used a belt, wooden-spoon and sliper. If I did somethoing wrong I got sent to the room told to wait and then think a out what I did wrong. Then I got a smack and didnt do it again. But then I moved to Britian in 2007 and saw what happened to kids who dont get smack and "talked to" instead. The way children Behave in Britian is Dissgusting and I'll be Damned if my children turn out like the Kids do her.

[HerDemonicGoddess]

I've just turned 20, and agree 110% i think it should be used in schools. only it should be used fairly. with teachers of the same gender as the student to be punished and with two other teachers present to be sure that it isn't being over done. if it were so then kids wouldn't have bad grades, ditch, disrespect others, fight, or bully others.

[JezVN]

@CH127 Did you know that there are other ways to punish children? From the sounds of it your parents only taught you one way which is a very bad way.

I think it is disgusting when people like you try to justify this crap. I was brought up with corporal punishment also and I've turned out to be a distrusting, paranoid human being. It's embarrassing to say that but it's true, I have so many problems in my life and most of it I know has stemmed from being smacked as a child.

Shame on you.

[JezVN]

@CH127 It also sounds like to me that you have turned out to be an insensitive, narrow-minded prick. You act as though you have turned out so wonderfully when really you haven't. You are still openly mean and horrid, insensitive..and I hope that you never have children. I'll be damned if my children turn out to be like you.

When my parents gave me stern lectures, grounded me, told me 'no', and didn't consistently give me what I wanted..I respected them for it and still do now.

[redneck500]

I think if the kids act up in school , they should have their asses split with the cane!!!

[davidgrahamscott]

That gal looks hot at 2.02 with that cane in her hand. I think she kind of likes it

[UnschoolingEagle]

I think it is ridiculous the way this is reported. Imagine if there was a "movement" to let husbands hit their wives, it wouldn't be such a "funny" or "light-hearted" news report. It would be serious and condemning like it should be and like this one should be. The more people understand children, and the more people use logic and reason instead of punishment and rewards, the better the world will get.

[Roasted09]

Cpl shouldn't happen in Schools - too open to abuse. Option in the home but only in a responsible way - some parents abuse their kids with belt/cane/anything that comes to hand. That isn't discipline - that's cruelty.

[PimpernellP]

I am in favour of the cane but only if it applies to both genders.

[PhDeverit]

Child buttock-battering vs. DISCIPLINE:

Child buttock-battering for the purpose of gaining compliance is nothing more than an inherited bad habit.

Its a good idea for people to take a look at what they are doing, and learn how to DISCIPLINE instead of hit.

Here are some good, quick reads recommended by professionals:

Plain Talk About Spanking

by Jordan Riak,

The Sexual Dangers of Spanking Children

by Tom Johnson,

NO VITAL ORGANS THERE, So They Say

by Lesli Taylor M.D. and Adah Maurer Ph.D.

[PorcupinePower]

lol about the smacking regulations, i mean who's gonna check?

[20loveman]

willobi that makes it worst for kids

[willobi]

caning is wrong use a cattle prod or a taser.

[CH127]

Hahahahaha!

[spanker30]

I agree with misslgrace !

[misslgrace2]

corporal punishment should absolutely be brought back. A lot of kids misbehave, and, detention, and timeout and stuff doesn't seem to work so well, I mean don't you agree?

[liammcool]

what i mean is its not in school its out of school where the kids these days are the problem i know over 20 windows i have broken its the parents i blame for this genration of chavs the police need better powers for dealing with minors/teenagers

[pete5668]

I think our public schools in the USA desperately need corporal punishment back. With a cane.

[SonsoftheProphets]

Damn, Australian women are hot!

[hogwarts09]

we need corporl punishment back im 13 i dont care i rather have the cain than have the earfull of shouting teachers

[ImpeturbableLawrence]

I wouldn't mind spanking the young woman presenter though!

[Stephen19852009]

@ImpeturbableLawrence LOL!!! you cheeky person

[SinclairCeltics1990]

Corporal Punishment is awesome "indeedly"

[liammcool]

coperal punishment was banned for good reason such as vains busting

[misslgrace2]

well that may be so, but that's just the same thing as getting a bruise, and that is just what a lot of kids deserve, I say it would be a good thing to bring corporal punishment back.

[123gilbertron]

as yould i my friend....as would i

[rhinohippo]

and I would also like to bring back the stocks, a few hours in the stocks in a public park on Sunday afternoon being slapped by wet fish and tomatoes from the general public would straighten out some of the miscreant youth of today

[gwinasha]

it;d be hilaryious to see if they bring it back and some kid reatliates... O_o

[blackfire1668]

bring it back

[Roko123shadow]

idk my dad hit me olny when i did something bad and stupid and abuse and spanking is totally DIFFERENT

[TheWorldpics]

Proverbs 22:15 Folly is bound up in the heart of a child: the rod of discipline drives it far from him

[agallagher0616]

well. i live in texas and before i moved over there i was in belfast(im 17 moved when 16) and a teacher told me i was to be paddled for having tattoos. teacher tryed to hit me and i put that bitch on the floor all she got was my fist right in her nose. i think corporal punishment is wrong regardless of teacher gender and do what i did fuck people up who try to hurt you. principle tryed to "paddle me" layed his ass out as well. i though america was supposed to be a place of freedom and conscience

[reddwarfer999]

Where did you get the tattoos?

If they were done in Belfast then it seems pointless to paddle you for having them as you couldn't reasonably have been expected to have them removed just for school.

If you got them in the US and (presumably) knowing the school's policy on th ematter, that's rather different.

[EuphemiseThis]

at least australia has set clear legal limits on what would be considered abusive ie an instrument, bruising, or above the shoulders.

In U.S. it is decided on a case by case basis, and often by the cop in deciding not to do anything rather than a judge or jury who actually has the right to try a person for a crime.

This results in such things as a judge letting off one parent for bruising the heck out of his kid for a week, and another judge separating the child based on a neighbor compaint.

[EuphemiseThis]

It also results in schools not being charged because of school policy although such marks, baseball size welts, would get a parent investigated by cps and ordered anger management classes. In some states, court cases appear to not give the child any human rights as long as it is called discipline and they don't die.

For ex, a girl was beaten by her pastor with moulding for weeks to stop saying she was molested. She told the truth! the pastor convicted of battery, sentenced to probation only.

[HMD916]

corporeal punishment is a pain in my ass. last time i got that i could not sit for 2 weeks

[bcrocker33]

well, then that wasn't punishment that was too much IMO. unless you are exaggerating. if not, you were not just punished.

i agree with the law about hitting with an implement about the shoulders...that's a good one. and i don't think teachers should have canes...but a spank with a hand or a paddle is fine by me.

[petermchoe]

I think wise thing to do is to develop professional punishment by hiring Punishment officer who wacks kids that are sent to them instead of teachers who can deal with frustrations and anger. When teachers do it, it deals with a direct relationship that wouldn't be fair to the students, but a third party would obviously be more professional since there's no emotional attachment.

[TheOfficalSQ]

WTF,

no one should hit us.

if a teacher hit me, they would be down to the floor. NO ONE SHOULD BE ALOUD TO BE HIT.

[TheWorldpics]

Proverbs 13:24 One who spares the rod hates his son, but one who loves him is careful to discipline him.

[SasjaYaTebyaLyublyu]

u bitch

[bcrocker33]

how long ago was the bible written? many proverbs and verses do not apply today. i am a sunday school teacher and i feel that way.

the term "under my thumb" came from being able to beat your wife or child with a stick as wide as the thumb. doesn't apply now.

we got hand spankings otk in school and i bet it was embarrassing. a ruler or strap didn't deter. it made the bad boys just more angry and they bullied more.

in india they cane for not getting lessons right - that is pathetic

[MrSonicAdvance]

@TheWorldpics If you have to hit your child to discipline them, you're an incompetant bully who doesn't have the respect of your kids, only their fear.

When you're old and frail, it'll be payback time and you'll reap what you've sown. Enjoy! :)

[QueenSayuri]

@TheWorldpics People have decided to justify their spanking by using this verb, and by assuming the rod is the object to use with force. But God doesn't even allow cruelty against his animals, so why would the shepherd rod his sheep? The rod was meant as a tool to guide the sheep where the shepherd wanted them to go. See how I turned this into a non-violent punishment. Guide your children, don't beat them into submission.

[bowlerconlon]

The birch should be brought back for minors under the age of 16.

24 strokes for senior offences. 12 for offences considered to be serious but not overly so. And 6 for indiscretions such as disobedience. On the bare bottom as well.

[as12df12]

You'd love to see that, don't you? Well, there's nothing wrong with having these kinds of fantasies, or even acting them out on consenting individuals. But your comment makes you look like a pedophile. That is, if you're actually being serious.

[Johnnyphx1]

And how much do you give to the National Front every year, hm?

[youngjinsufan]

i really want a teacher to hit me she wouldnt make it

[Splangy1]

why would you want a teacher to do that ?

[as12df12]

I would partake in this discussion, but firstly I'm not Australian and secondly, the ridiculus limit of 500 characters per comment is not even remotely enough to drive my point across.

[stargirl7890]

so... post what u need to say then if its not aloud after 500 characters, then post another comment replyin to ur previous message.

[guidav123]

if a parent puts a gun to a childs head and says " obey or i will shoot you" the child will obey but is that good parenting,is that showing a good example of how to handle problems?

[Under21EyesOnly]

Corporeal punishment is a pretty word for physical and emotional abuse.

[WHHS2002]

my friend her parents use the paddle on their kids. to me I think using a paddle is over board but that how they raise their kids and they all are good kids. it's not like they get it everyday just when they do something really wrong. and two most of them are now adults. there's only 3 who still get it. their parents had 10 kids.

I was spank when I was little and hated it but my mom never abuse me or left a mark on me. so part of me believes in spanking and other part not sure.

[Euan9999]

if the child's acting like a wee asshole for no reason theirs nothing wrong with it!

just as long as its not taken to far!

[viper3391]

lol. i can see ur quite primitive

[Euan9999]

lol..maybe i was a bit brief (and crude) but if done correctly it will correct the child

[viper3391]

Giving physical pain is no way to correct a child just like the video says corporal punishment teaches kids to be violent and that is what we don't need in the world. There are thousands of other ways to correct children which does not involve physical or even emotional pain.

[peppergirlrocks]

really? so what are the 'thousands of other ways to correct children?' do u honestly think if parents can just talk to their children and they listen, do u think they will cane em? no. copral punishment is meant to make kids think twice before they do something stupid and knw that they are going to get touble for doing that.consequences. and plz, violence can be promoted in so many ways, movies, songs, news, books so on...k

[brightenlad]

We've tried the thousands of other ways in England and they don't work. Kids just laugh at the teachers knowing they can do nothing about it. Caning is the answer, but it's too late to bring it back now.

[rdoetjes]

@brightenlad Totally agree. My mom whacked me with a woodenspoon when I was young and later smacked me in the face (I remember 3 times in total) and I was way of the mark then.

I think a good flogging (or the possibility of this) scares kids straight. We have proven that these detention and other gentle approaches (which should come first!) do not work on some.

[guidav123]

Who is to say what is taken it to far. Everyone draws the line at diferent places so how is the law suppose to determine this. THe only logical way is to do away with it all.,becouse there is always going to be the idiots that push the limits.

[reddevilneck]

its a human right abuse

[dougiewhite778]

I dont think the cane should be reintroduced , children need to feel the birch instead as its much more painfull and really drives the message home.

[redraz09]

interesting video i like it..but why have the

codec,s been sabotaged when you download it

you get a slanted mirror view???

[Kythos]

I firmly believe that doing such act is both an agony and a lesson however, the application is a cruelty to the development of the child. "NO PAIN, NO GAIN": Meaning "NO SMACK, NO LESSON", unless there is motivation. This is the parental perspective.

In my perspective, I would simply BAN this practice for the benefits of the development of the child. The undesired entities will not only decrease, but the SELF-ESTEEM will also decrease. Pls. think twice.

[lazuli2411]

"OH NO!" *MISSED SMACK*

[fitasafiddle123]

The cane was used to Guide the sheep, not beat them. Corporal Punishment=Legal Child Abuse!

[teslashield]

Give me SIX of your best, please Miss.

[Wolverhampton1]

I would gladly like some young teachers to smack my behind!

[sai18kit]

@Wolverhampton1 but reality is usually uglier. When are you going to see young, pretty teachers often? When I was in school some teachers were pretty. But no corporal punishment was allowed.

I was like angel tho. If coporal punishment was allowed, maybe I would act out in certian classes.

[badsaja]

There is a difference between the punishment and the violence.

When you hit a child in a punishly way it is a must to let them behave good

[blackiesrocks]

certainly should bring it back ,at least as last resort,not sure if girls should be caned though.

[suggestimmad]

I'm a girl and I think that both boys and girls should be punished that way if you want to bring it back all together.

[spanker30]

Bring caning , paddling and spanking back in EVERY school.  They all need it !!

[gladwindave]

the problem is and will always be that whenever its allowed in school someone in a position of trust will abuse their power , it should be banned from all schools.

[moviesandmusic241]

I dont think embarassment is neccessarily a bad thing...these "experts" all talk about hurting a child's self-esteem...keyword being "SELF." I was spanked as a kid and trust me, Id rather that then being grounded or having my stuff taken away...a spanking is over and done with and although its painful, you get over it. However, theres is a line between discipline and abuse...one that should never be crossed.

[ODYSSEUSEXYZ]

why would u hit a child

if u cnt hit adult

I MEAN WTF

in nz we have stop these barbaric acts

[demon881]

spanking kids isnt barbaric

when i was younger, the ONLY reason i behaved is cause i knew i would geta spanking if i didnt behave.

spanking is neccesary

[ODYSSEUSEXYZ]

if we cnt hit adults but we can we hit children ???

we cannot hit dogs but WE can hit children

isnt there something wrong with that

[demon881]

ill admit some of it is alittle screwed up, but, if a parent wants to use spanking as a punishment, so be it.

As long as its within reason, there is nothin wrong with physical punishment.

Again, I would never have behaved as a child if i hadnt been spanked, grounding didnt work on me.

Nor on my little nephew now. He wont behave unless you threaten to pop him.

I just read moviesandmusic, thats very true.

I agree 100% with that.

[joyr36]

Spanking may be okay if it's done in the right way and for the right reason, but once there is a bruise, I would consider it child abuse. Some of the teachers in the schools I attended went away overboard with paddling. Thank God I never got paddled in school.

[Kythos]

I do Agree with that! Punishment for most is considered as a positive reinforcement to decrease the undesired habits and attitude.

Principle 9

The child shall be protected against all forms of neglect, cruelty and exploitation. He shall not be the subject of traffic, in any form.

The parents have the right to do this but not in a sadistic way. The number of misdeeds determines the severity of the punishment. Do the parents consider the psychological and the mental status of the child???

[JezVN]

@joyr36 What if somebody spanked you? What would you think then? If without your consent, somebody decided to smack your bottom?

Children are people as well - different from adults - yet still people. When I saw my mum smack my sister, and witnessed other children at school getting smacked..just knowing that there are people who get given the so-called right to spank..made me sick and still disgusts me.

So slapping is just as abusive and wrong as beating/whipping. Please get it right.

[PGMEagle]

The United States is the only remaining country that still uses Corporal Punishment in schools

[thedominum]

Not so. It is still used in a small number of Australian schools, for example, as this video makes clear, and is used quite extensively in some Asian nations such as Singapore.

[CupcakeLover222]

I think some kids deserve a smack but the reason I wouldn't like it is because it's embarrassing :x Do Not Want!

[meg2gas3]

ya that wud hurt

[D750124]

You know its against the rules, you do it, you get detention, who cares! You know its against the rules, you do it you get caned, your arse hurts, you're humiliated, you're punished! Whats the problem?

[SeattleDad]

I have counseled hundreds of children beaten, paddled, spanked, caned. It simply does not work. It causes resentment in students, anger, and often leads to further emotional and mental anquish and issues in adulthood. It has been banned in all of Europe, most of Asian, all of South/Central America, most of the US, and all of Canada. Time for children to be protected as humans. Time for it to be removed from ALL schools and homes. Children learn by making the accountable & non-physical means.

[D750124]

Sory mate, I beg to differ. I was at a school that had corporal punishment. We knew what the rules were, and we knew what the consequences of breaking them was, you broke them and that was that. There was no bulleying, no disrespect, rudeness to teachers because we knew what was tolerated and what was not. There is a huge difference between abuse and punishment. I will admit that we were lucky that we had teachers that were dedicated and went the extra mile in all aspects.

[SeattleDad]

If I were you, D, i would do your research. Maybe in your case you were lucky. I have talked with young adults who were receipiants of this brutal and abusive treatment. Many in couseling, many dealing even now as adults with the nightmares. You don't treat children like animals by "breaking them!" Tell you what..the next time you "break a rule" at work or "screw up" let's propose your employer gets to cane you, ok? Let's see if it makes you a better employee!

[saranagas]

methinks thatd hurt

[bluewolverine40]

we would get paddled for saying reckon LOL

[bluewolverine40]

hell our schools are 10 times more violent now then thrity years ago and this UNITED NATIONs CRAP giving children "rights".too get them out of a punishment.

[bluewolverine40]

well at least the paddle :>)

[SeattleDad]

oh, yeah, let's smack em. Good grief. Facts clearly show 1) does not work! and 2) is abusive, painful, humiliating and embarassing to students. Thank GOD most of the civilized world has baned it. Students are far better off, and researchh has shown other forms of accountability works. Sorry, Miles, but you are out of touch with reality.

[tubbervillefire]

Studies and so-called facts show what authors wanted them to show. Anecdotal evidence or non-objective studies prove little. Corporal punishment changes behavior. No one debates that.  How the punishment was administered seems to be more relevant than anything. The problem is that abusive people often seek power, especially over children. As a parent, I say corporal punishment has a place. It is more difficult in the schools because of the inability to monitor/control people in power.

[SeattleDad]

What are you talking about? If you support as a parent hitting a child, you need to do you research. I can provide studies, interviews, pictures, video clips, EVERY major education org. and every child phys. has clearly stated hitting/spanking is dangerous, provides nothing positive to a child/teen, and is, in fact, too often abusive. If you can't raise you children without hitting, you should not be a parent. It only changes IMMED behavior, you have NO idea the long term affect at all.

[wannaseesumfun]

How can he have no idea? If you are of an adult age, and were spanked as a child then I think that if you are leading a normal, social life and enjoy all the trappings that your sucess brings you- it means you are qualified.

[DonkeyKong96]

@SeattleDad I want you to send me all of the "studies, interviews, pictures, video clips, EVERY major education org" to support YOUR claim. I highly doubt you are correct sir. I'm also going to do a persuasive speech on "the necessity of corporal punishment in the house" in 4 weeks in my speech class. I can't wait for the pissed off people in my class haha.