hi 3M, was there any need to use primer especially on a smart repair? i have been working in the industry and just completed a paint refinishing course and I didn't use primer on a small scratch area such as that, i've learnt that primer should only be used on a major repaired area where body filler or any filler has been used at all to build up the surface. feathering down the scratch would have been easier to put it straight into colour and clear less time and consumables used!
@sleeman20 Due to the depth of this scratch, it was necessary to feather the repair out. Basecoat alone would not be sufficient to cover the feathered edges - these would clearly stand out in the finished repair if no primer had been used. 3M always recommends following your paint company's process recommendations which would include the use of a primer.
sanding without a rubbing down block causes finger furrowing which can show through in the finish! other than that i thought it was quite a good example!
hahahaha all that work im a smart repairer and a car dearler ship at the most would pay £60 and the most for a repair like that all good if you was being paid a fortune but it doesn t happen quick and good thats all they want.
@icfireplace his type of cosmetic repair is a popular and growing segment. The damage shown has broken through to the primer so should not be left unrepaired and the process shown is designed for cosmetic damage, similar to that shown, as an alternative to a bodyshop repair. In terms of expense, the frame at 07:17 gives an overview of the amount of consumables used which isn't excessive, especially when considering the abrasives can be reused.
Bloody hell what a performance. Simply D/A or wet flat the damaged area. Mask off, use an aerosol 2k primer. Dry using infrared light for about 20 minutes. Wet flat the repair using 320 and 800 wet n dry. Blow away water and using a gray scuff pad over the whole area to be painted and beyond. Mask off the area using any swage lines to minimize the paint area. Paint using Devilbiss GTI_Pro gun blend in clear-coat, dry with infrared light for 1 hour, polish with G3 using machine polisher. Simples
3M are the best, and I have great faith in smart repairs, but that needed a body shop repair. 9 times out of 10, a smart in that position is going to be visible, especially on a silver car. Same for arches. You may get it past a numpty, but if that car had to get past a lease inspector, chances are you'll be billed around £275 for a repair and repaint.
A wing is not the size of an A4 bit of paper. Unless you can fade around a corner, such as on a bumper, you shouldn't do it.
@MrDanArgent It might do if you were to use CHIMPS AWAY, but that is utter rubbish I have been doing this for years.It doesn't matter what colour your using, you can easily fade it in and you would never be able to tell it had been done. I can only assume you have had the cowboys round. These idiots give us guys a bad name.
@giptonsilly Please take a look at this video - youtube.com/watch?v=YOA8aN96NO0
Plenty of cowboys about, which makes us all the more careful, and if I can see it, it fails inspection. I can always see it. Sorry but I guarantee that repair wouldn't be good enough to pass BVRLA FW&T standard, which says 'any visible sign of repair'. However, touch that in with a brush and it probably would pass as it's under 25mm.
Some lease companies are now telling fleets 'no smart repair'.
@MrDanArgent I looked up the BVRLA advice and guidance of what was acceptable and my company does repairs like this all the time with invisible repairs. If my guys don't do a 100% acceptable job they wouldn't last long working for me. I can guarantee 99.9% of people would never know we had done a SMART repair. Some lease companies maybe telling fleets no smart repair but done correctly they would never know. We use Spies Hecker water based Paint with a 2K clear-coat.
hi have been a painter since i left school and have done many course's but what i dont understand is this is a smart repair video but yet you are useing a bodyshop with a spraybooth wich u wouldnt have if u was doing a smart repair at someone work or house also there was no use of etch primer wich you should use if bare metalis exposed and what is the point of useing guide coat if your not going to use a block when sanding not a good example of work fro a company such as 3m
@noiseydj Our process is designed to be replicated by a SMART repairer. We filmed inside to help with the lighting needed for the camera.
We didn't use etch primer as no bare metal was exposed (the coarsest abrasive used was P320). As you correctly point out, if we had exposed any bare metal, then etch primer would be used.
Dry guide coat isn’t just for when sanding with a block. It highlights any defects and ensures that the entire primer area is correctly sanded prior to a basecoat.
@noiseydj soo true lol i thought that myself. i learnt all this from working 3 years in a back street bodyshop. would of thought 3m would of shown propper way ha
@RedSpecial18 The process followed in this video shows how to use 3M products to achieve a fantastic SMART repair - highlighted by the final outcome. As specifically stated at the beginning of the video, there are only certain areas, types and sizes of damage which can be repaired using SMART techniques. For any damage which doesn't meet the criteria required for a SMART repair, 3M's full bodyshop repair process is recommended which can be found at our website: 3mbodyshop.co.uk.
@MrColakid11 This scratch has actually broken through to the primer and is typical of damage which could be repaired using SMART methods. The repair process shown is typical of what could be carried out to repair stone chips or scratches. As the video shows, most of these products can be reused for future repairs (or perhaps where multiple stone chips are being repaired) meaning that this is, in fact, an efficient and quick method for repairing minor damage.
@ianthemonk The process we have shown is able to be carried out by a mobile SMART repairer so being in an inside, heated environment is not necessary. We filmed inside for lighting and production purposes only but the process is designed to be replicated outside.
@candlebulb Hi - 3M manufactures the consumables used in this repair process however we do not actually perform the repairs ourselves. This video is simply a guide for showing how 3M products can be used to achieve a top quality repair.
@mcmigas The repair that we are demonstrating is typical of damage suitable for a SMART repair. Painting any area larger than shown in the video would require more product, take more time and cost more money whilst not fitting in with the definition of a SMART repair.
@DataUK1972 The damage which we repaired may not have come out perfectly on camera but, as the scratch had gone right through to the primer, simply polishing it out would not work. The repair needs to be correctly prepared if a good quality finish is desired. The damage repaired in the video is similar to that of a stone-chip, scratch or small cosmetic damage which is suitable for a SMART repair. The products and processes used are 3M's recommended process for ensuring a good finish.
@elliot330 Yes, the 3M Accuspray Gun is being used for the application of primer in this video. Due to the current 1.8mm nozzle set up, we only recommend using this for spraying high build primer and customers have already commented on reduced overspray, flatter primer finish and easier clean up.
@iisbob As there was no body filler used in this repair, a 216U abrasive sheet was used by hand to flat the primer. As the repair is on a curve, we find using 216U easier to shape as well. For deeper repairs where body filler would be used we recommend using a 3M Hookit Multihole Abrasive Sheet P320 on a block followed by a 3M Multihole Disc P500.
There is sooo much wrong with this video. Wouldn't expect anything less from 3M...
1981gMachine 2 months ago
This is so cheesy it's not even funny, the awkwardness between those two guys talking is seriously hilarious...
hsurbexuk 7 months ago
@hsurbexuk lol couldn't agree more.
dann2707 7 months ago
hi 3M, was there any need to use primer especially on a smart repair? i have been working in the industry and just completed a paint refinishing course and I didn't use primer on a small scratch area such as that, i've learnt that primer should only be used on a major repaired area where body filler or any filler has been used at all to build up the surface. feathering down the scratch would have been easier to put it straight into colour and clear less time and consumables used!
sleeman20 8 months ago
@sleeman20 Due to the depth of this scratch, it was necessary to feather the repair out. Basecoat alone would not be sufficient to cover the feathered edges - these would clearly stand out in the finished repair if no primer had been used. 3M always recommends following your paint company's process recommendations which would include the use of a primer.
3MUKPLC 7 months ago
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fontball 8 months ago
oi would it work if a car was a writen off from being T-boned could i do the same thing
CookedIce 8 months ago
not the best colour of car to use as an example
Enkoder 8 months ago
"as ever"??? no English idiots
Bask4life 8 months ago
good video
Liamautomechanic 8 months ago
sanding without a rubbing down block causes finger furrowing which can show through in the finish! other than that i thought it was quite a good example!
christophergough1 8 months ago
Im sure a dab of T-cut would have done the trick
Umbot786 8 months ago
I could have cleared that scratch away with my spit.
mcard1d 8 months ago
hahahaha all that work im a smart repairer and a car dearler ship at the most would pay £60 and the most for a repair like that all good if you was being paid a fortune but it doesn t happen quick and good thats all they want.
billtopo1 8 months ago
@icfireplace his type of cosmetic repair is a popular and growing segment. The damage shown has broken through to the primer so should not be left unrepaired and the process shown is designed for cosmetic damage, similar to that shown, as an alternative to a bodyshop repair. In terms of expense, the frame at 07:17 gives an overview of the amount of consumables used which isn't excessive, especially when considering the abrasives can be reused.
3MUKPLC 8 months ago
Did he really wipe under the arch then continue to rub the rest of the panel down with the some cloth :\ nice
twiggy99 8 months ago
Bloody hell what a performance. Simply D/A or wet flat the damaged area. Mask off, use an aerosol 2k primer. Dry using infrared light for about 20 minutes. Wet flat the repair using 320 and 800 wet n dry. Blow away water and using a gray scuff pad over the whole area to be painted and beyond. Mask off the area using any swage lines to minimize the paint area. Paint using Devilbiss GTI_Pro gun blend in clear-coat, dry with infrared light for 1 hour, polish with G3 using machine polisher. Simples
giptonsilly 8 months ago
Was a good outcome.. But that video was awkward to watch.
yeeeooop 9 months ago
3M are the best, and I have great faith in smart repairs, but that needed a body shop repair. 9 times out of 10, a smart in that position is going to be visible, especially on a silver car. Same for arches. You may get it past a numpty, but if that car had to get past a lease inspector, chances are you'll be billed around £275 for a repair and repaint.
A wing is not the size of an A4 bit of paper. Unless you can fade around a corner, such as on a bumper, you shouldn't do it.
MrDanArgent 9 months ago
@MrDanArgent It might do if you were to use CHIMPS AWAY, but that is utter rubbish I have been doing this for years.It doesn't matter what colour your using, you can easily fade it in and you would never be able to tell it had been done. I can only assume you have had the cowboys round. These idiots give us guys a bad name.
giptonsilly 8 months ago
@giptonsilly Please take a look at this video - youtube.com/watch?v=YOA8aN96NO0
Plenty of cowboys about, which makes us all the more careful, and if I can see it, it fails inspection. I can always see it. Sorry but I guarantee that repair wouldn't be good enough to pass BVRLA FW&T standard, which says 'any visible sign of repair'. However, touch that in with a brush and it probably would pass as it's under 25mm.
Some lease companies are now telling fleets 'no smart repair'.
MrDanArgent 7 months ago
@MrDanArgent I looked up the BVRLA advice and guidance of what was acceptable and my company does repairs like this all the time with invisible repairs. If my guys don't do a 100% acceptable job they wouldn't last long working for me. I can guarantee 99.9% of people would never know we had done a SMART repair. Some lease companies maybe telling fleets no smart repair but done correctly they would never know. We use Spies Hecker water based Paint with a 2K clear-coat.
giptonsilly 7 months ago
hhg
noiseydj 9 months ago
hi have been a painter since i left school and have done many course's but what i dont understand is this is a smart repair video but yet you are useing a bodyshop with a spraybooth wich u wouldnt have if u was doing a smart repair at someone work or house also there was no use of etch primer wich you should use if bare metalis exposed and what is the point of useing guide coat if your not going to use a block when sanding not a good example of work fro a company such as 3m
noiseydj 9 months ago 2
@noiseydj Our process is designed to be replicated by a SMART repairer. We filmed inside to help with the lighting needed for the camera.
We didn't use etch primer as no bare metal was exposed (the coarsest abrasive used was P320). As you correctly point out, if we had exposed any bare metal, then etch primer would be used.
Dry guide coat isn’t just for when sanding with a block. It highlights any defects and ensures that the entire primer area is correctly sanded prior to a basecoat.
3MUKPLC 9 months ago
@noiseydj soo true lol i thought that myself. i learnt all this from working 3 years in a back street bodyshop. would of thought 3m would of shown propper way ha
RedSpecial18 9 months ago
@RedSpecial18 The process followed in this video shows how to use 3M products to achieve a fantastic SMART repair - highlighted by the final outcome. As specifically stated at the beginning of the video, there are only certain areas, types and sizes of damage which can be repaired using SMART techniques. For any damage which doesn't meet the criteria required for a SMART repair, 3M's full bodyshop repair process is recommended which can be found at our website: 3mbodyshop.co.uk.
3MUKPLC 8 months ago
meh. want this on my wheel arches too many old grannys scraping their invalid carridges and trollys down the side...but yeah it's a bit rich.
jamiebridges123 9 months ago
for sum small stupid scratch they did all this to clear it :/
MrColakid11 9 months ago 2
@MrColakid11 This scratch has actually broken through to the primer and is typical of damage which could be repaired using SMART methods. The repair process shown is typical of what could be carried out to repair stone chips or scratches. As the video shows, most of these products can be reused for future repairs (or perhaps where multiple stone chips are being repaired) meaning that this is, in fact, an efficient and quick method for repairing minor damage.
3MUKPLC 9 months ago
@3MUKPLC ok ok thtts good
MrColakid11 9 months ago
this looks top notch. However should this be done inside in a heated environment or doesnt this matter
ianthemonk 9 months ago
@ianthemonk The process we have shown is able to be carried out by a mobile SMART repairer so being in an inside, heated environment is not necessary. We filmed inside for lighting and production purposes only but the process is designed to be replicated outside.
3MUKPLC 9 months ago
Can i ask how much you would be charging for this repair ? including VAT. thank you.
candlebulb 9 months ago
@candlebulb Hi - 3M manufactures the consumables used in this repair process however we do not actually perform the repairs ourselves. This video is simply a guide for showing how 3M products can be used to achieve a top quality repair.
3MUKPLC 9 months ago
come on guys the time spend on that just do the all wing since you have a booth to spray....smart....hum keep up the good work
mcmigas 10 months ago
@mcmigas The repair that we are demonstrating is typical of damage suitable for a SMART repair. Painting any area larger than shown in the video would require more product, take more time and cost more money whilst not fitting in with the definition of a SMART repair.
3MUKPLC 10 months ago
all that work for a small scratch !!!! T-cut it or ignore it
DataUK1972 10 months ago
@DataUK1972 The damage which we repaired may not have come out perfectly on camera but, as the scratch had gone right through to the primer, simply polishing it out would not work. The repair needs to be correctly prepared if a good quality finish is desired. The damage repaired in the video is similar to that of a stone-chip, scratch or small cosmetic damage which is suitable for a SMART repair. The products and processes used are 3M's recommended process for ensuring a good finish.
3MUKPLC 10 months ago
Hi, are you using the 3M accuspray gun? In other videos I have watched, I understand this gun is for primer? Can it be used for both?
Thanks
elliot330 11 months ago
@elliot330 Yes, the 3M Accuspray Gun is being used for the application of primer in this video. Due to the current 1.8mm nozzle set up, we only recommend using this for spraying high build primer and customers have already commented on reduced overspray, flatter primer finish and easier clean up.
For more Accuspray information please see:
solutions.3m.co.uk/wps/portal/3M/en_GB/EU-AAD/Home/?PC_7_RJH9U5230GE3E02LECFTDQS832_assetId=1273667924558
3MUKPLC 10 months ago
whats the point of using a guide coat then flatting by hand? im pretty sure 3m sell rubbing blocks!
iisbob 11 months ago 2
@iisbob As there was no body filler used in this repair, a 216U abrasive sheet was used by hand to flat the primer. As the repair is on a curve, we find using 216U easier to shape as well. For deeper repairs where body filler would be used we recommend using a 3M Hookit Multihole Abrasive Sheet P320 on a block followed by a 3M Multihole Disc P500.
3MUKPLC 11 months ago