The Jesus Myth Theory Refuted (1/7) - Dr. Phil Fernandes deals with these Christ Mythicists

[Hercules2345]

"The Gospels are neither histories nor biographies, even within the ancient tolerances for those genres."

- Dr. John Dominic Crossan

- Who Was Jesus? page 24

* Dr. Crossan is a major figure in the fields of biblical archaeology, anthropology and New Testament textual and higher criticism. He is especially vocal in the field of Historical Jesus studies

[Hercules2345]

"...there are very few sources for knowledge of the historical Jesus beyond the four canonical Gospels. Paul and Josephus offer little more than tidbits. Claims that later apocryphal Gospels and the Nag Hammadi material supply independent and reliable historical information about Jesus are largely fantasy. In the end, the historian is left with the difficult task of sifting through the Four Gospels for historical tradition."

- J. P. Meier, New Testament professor

- Who Was Jesus? page 86

[Hercules2345]

"Apart from the New Testament writings and later writings dependent upon these, our sources of information about the life and teaching of Jesus are scanty and problematic"

- F.F. Bruce, a founder of the modern evangelical movement

- "Who Was Jesus? Fingerprints of The Christ" (WWJ) page 84

Even NT scholars can't agree on the so-called evidence for Jesus.

[axe414]

@Hercules2345 Matthew 18:6 ''But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.''

[IdaSputum]

Based on experience - JESUS IS REAL, - I SAW JESUS -

Since that event I've seen so much historical evidence that I'm highly suspicious of the agenda of those who blatantly attempt to pervert & flatout deny history.

[axe414]

@1Mafioso4 You should be ashamed of blaspheming Jesus Christ like that... Every knee will bow. Yours also..

[CelestialWolven]

All of these things combined are enough to completely annihilate your argument. Thus I am done arguing with an ignorant Christian. Let's see how your God stands up in the next thousand years. He'll be gone before the end of the next century. Bye!

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven What do you mean he'll be gone? Haa ok you mean that your beloved New World Order will eliminate him? You really thing that your religion will be forced on people just like that? The only ones who will follow your Satanic ''new golden age of Saturn'' will be the lovers of LIES ;). ''enough to completely annihilate your argument. '' UUmm no using Richard Dawkins as an argument is so LAME! This same guy push the theory that Aliens created us! LOL and I'm the stupid Christian?!

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven Uumm.. You know that your mentor Richard Dawkins pushes the theory that Aliens created us? This is sooooo scientific eh!? (Sarcasm..) what is also funny is that the Rockefeller family founded the Disclosure Project. So you have a bunch of Luciferians pushing for disclosing ''Aliens'' By the way the Rockefellers are big time Evil Banksters working to build the New world order :). By the way you haven't proved anything with your FALLACY arguments to prove evolution :) Jesus saves.

[CelestialWolven]

@axe414 Ummm...no, he doesn't. That is SCIENTOLOGY. Not SCIENCE. And what religion? Atheism is not a religion. Atheism is a LACK of a belief in ANY DEITY of ANY KIND. Where the hell are you getting this worhsipping Satan shit? You have absolutely no knowledge whatsoever! And this just proves it!

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven L. Ron. Hubbard the founder of Scientology was a disciple of Aleister Crowley? Scientology is completely Satanic. ''You are gods'' delusion. Those people are working to force you to accept their religion. While you bash on Christians who by the way do NOT force ANYONE to worship Jesus Christ, the Luciferians are working to FORCE you into THEIR view of the world. The New World Order is all about this ''new age of Saturn'' Do you believe you're god? Are you an atheist? 

[CelestialWolven]

@axe414 You need to practice what you preach and learn some fucking common human decency and Christian values. You are THE WORST representative of your faith that I HAVE EVER HAD THE DISPLEASURE TO COME IN CONTACT WITH. You are filled with so much hate and malice and confusion that you cannot even think straight. Until you learn to argue decently and with grace, and with proper, educated arguments, I am done with you. Goodbye, foul-brained imbecile, and don't let God smite you for your time.

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven NO WAY!? You call me names, insult me again and again and blaspheme against my Lord and Savior and I'm the hater?! I was kind with you and you tell me this?! I'm filled with hate?! WOW You are the one filled with hate don't you see it?! Are you so blind to not see your own hate?! I Don't hate you at all! I hate the lies you believe in but I Love you! It was nice talking with you. I could continue more and more but you should simply go and think about this... Jesus Saves

[CelestialWolven]

@axe414 I'll insult you all I want. That's my right as a fellow human being. Just because you're a pussy and won't be man enough to call a girl a name, how's that my problem? I'm not filled with hate. I'm filled with intolerane for people like yourself. You are not an example of your faith. God would smite you in a second or less.

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven ''I'll insult you all I want. That's my right as a fellow human being.'' Well according to Evolution ''rights'' dosen't exists LOL. Good or evil dosen't exist neither.. Order out of Chaos.. Pure Gnosticism.. The biggest scam ever. ''I'm not filled with hate'' Ouff I don't want to see you angry then :P.

[CelestialWolven]

Yes, because good old Dr. Phil here is definitely a reliable source. More so than published historians and scholars with many years of proven, reputable experience. *rolls eyes* Find a new mentor. This guy's a shill, and you fell for it.

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven Oh ok.. You're really trying to imply that REAL scholars with ''many years of proven, reputable experience'' Will agree that Jesus never existed? This man is not my mentor :) I have no mentor. I have a Lord and savior and his name is Jesus Christ. He won against this world and anyone calling on his name will be saved. your comment is funny. You don't mention any of your so called scholars. Why would Dr. Phil Fernandes would not be a reliable source? Because hi's not a gnostic?

[CelestialWolven]

@axe414 Most of the things he says are lies. That downgrades his reputability to downright scandal.

For example, many of the people you seem so fond of bashing (Dawkins, Carrier, Myers, etc.) are actually EXTREMELY reputable. They hold the highest degrees in their fields, have published many books backed by both historical and scientific data, and are actually known for more than just being religious apologists. A Ph.D. in Religion? Give me a break. What was his graduate thesis?

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven ''Most of the things he says are lies'' He dosen't lie! He just dosen't agree with your ''EXTREMELY reputable'' Atheist ''scholars'' :P By the way the ones who lie are YOUR Mentors :P. ''apologists. A Ph.D. in Religion'' LOL your attempt to discredit him is so lame! You bring no facts! Just bashing and Ad-Hominem attacks. Dawkins Reputable?! This guy refused to debate Kent Hovind! Oh yeah.. He's too reputable to debate a stupid creationist you know! So illuminated you know.. :)

[CelestialWolven]

@axe414 Atheism is a religion in the same way that bald is a hair color!

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven If you believe in evolution, you're in an Humanist religion created by MASONS! Erasmus Darwin (grandfather of charles Darwin) wrote a book called zoonomia. This was the foundation for charles Darwin's book. Erasmus Darwin was a HIGH degree Freemason and completely anti-christian. You believe in this fairy tale because you Loooveeeee the LIE! This universe is ruled by Physical RULES and our souls are also ruled by RULES! Aleister Crowley was wrong with his ''Do as thou wilt''

[CelestialWolven]

@axe414 I'm a fucking human. That's right. Now you're just making blind assumptions with no basis in reality. Darwin made his observations after going to the Galapagos Islands on the ship the Beagle. Just because something is anti-Christian, doesn't mean that it's anti-truth or ANTI-REALITY! You are the one living the lie. Have fun living in your god-forsaken ignorance. You're not a Christian. You don't act like Christ. You don't love. You fucking HATE! Everything you say is foul and stinks!

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven LOL I never implied that because he was anti-christian that he was anti-truth! LOL You are so succeptible LOL funny... He was anti-Christian and that's a FACT thats it! Dont put wordws in my mouth :) You're Human and God created you. Now you are rejecting his only begotten son who died on the Cross for YOU! You want to reject him ? GO FOR IT! That is NOT my problem! You are the one coming back at me and bashing christianity and calling me names so don't play the little victim :)

[axe414]

By the way anyone can write a book. And wierdly enough every time I see a book claiming to debunk Christianity and pushing Gnostic teachings, Those book are almost always written by Freemasons... Mmmm Alert Alert! NWO New age Propaganda! :P I know the agenda and I expose it like it is! The new age of Saturn will be defeated by my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! The Satanic New World order has already Lost a looong time ago! Now if you don't want to trust Jesus Christ, GO FOR IT! 

[CelestialWolven]

@axe414 Says the person who brings absolutely nothing new to the table. There is not ONE biblical fairytale supported by science or historical data. Not ONE. Prove me wrong with evidence from your opposers. Yes, educated scientists using the scientific method. You know, the same method that powers your car, your microwave, and the razorblade you should slit your neck with. You want empirical evidence? Why here you go: Go to Talk Origins, the Smithsonian Institute, the Museum of Natural History

[CelestialWolven]

@CelestialWolven On the contrary. It's this idiot here, and others like him, including yourself, who are lying through their teeth. Why? Because the Bible itself is the biggest fabrication in all of human history, and you treat it like it's the latest research journal with the best cure for cancer. 93% of the scientific community holds no religious affiliation. The Bible cannot be used as evidence in a court of law. Visit The Thinking Atheist website, Refuting the Bible, Bible Contradictions.

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven ''There is not ONE biblical fairytale supported by science or historical data'' It's funny you make that statement because you could say the exact same statement for you beloved theory of evolution :P. ''Yes, educated scientists using the scientific method'' This is why they use proven lies in the textbooks to teach this Humanist Satanist religion to KIDS?! ''Go to Talk Origins'' Already done long time ago. ''You know, the same method that powers your car'' Uum FALLACY!! :P

[CelestialWolven]

@axe414 Evolution is proven by FACT. If evolution is a myth, why then have you received vaccinations against certain diseases if they don't evolve into forms that are immune to certain treatments? Why have dogs gone from wolves to the tiny lap creatures we know today? If you truly don't believe in evolution, then you are an ignorant, blind, foolish person who cannot see the forest for the trees!

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven Evolution is not proven by facts!? Show me your ''facts'' :P ''why then have you received vaccinations against certain diseases'' UUmm you should research about vaccination. In fact there is good studies that shows how vaccination is DANGEROUS! ''Why have dogs gone from wolves to the tiny lap creatures we know today?'' this is not proof of evolution! This is changes between the same KIND! That dosen't mean we came from a rock billions of years ago!? Bring more of your ''FACTS''.

[CelestialWolven]

@axe414 I've showed you the facts. You just refuse to read them. I've researched about vaccinations. I've got a fucking degree in biology, you foolish twit. Learn the truth, instead of Christian propoganda. The only way it's dangerous is if the vaccine is not completely dead or inactive. Which happens in only a few of every hundreds of cases. "Changes between kinds." That is fucking evolution, you demented egotistical moron!

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven You showed me NOTHING!? You made BOLD claims that prove nothing at all! Typical evolutionist behavior. ''Evolution is a FACT, the speciation of dogs etc..) LOL This is PATHETIC (no offence..)

''I've got a fucking degree in biology'' Well you should take more classes. ''That is fucking evolution'' Um no that is not macro-evolution. By the way have you ever seen a dog produce a non dog? Have you ever seen a ROCK produce life? Uumm I didn't think so...

[CelestialWolven]

@axe414 I can't link you to anything, and you haven't even visited one of the sources I've suggested. Thusly, you have nothing to refute what I've said. Macro and microevlution are the same freaking process! The only difference is time and scale! A rock producing life is not evolution, because evolution doesn't claim that we come from rocks! I've already fucking said this! A dog will not produce a non-dog because that is not evolution, you fuckig twit! Jesus, are you really this stupid???

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven ''I can't link you to anything, and you haven't even visited one of the sources I've suggested'' Uumm I already know your website and I already visited it a long time ago. ''Macro and microevlution are the same freaking process'' SHOW YOUR EVIDENCES! Stop it with your ''there is so many species of dogs'' LOL so LAME! micro-evolution is NOt the same as MACRO-evolution! You need to take a GIANT LEAP OF FAITH! THIS IS A STUPID RELIGION WITH TIME AS GOD LOL

[CelestialWolven]

@axe414 Read the message I sent you! Micro and macro evolution are the same damn process! There is only one kind of evolution! The only differences between them are time it takes to occur and scale at which it occurs! Learn to fucking read a coherent sentence! You are ultimately the most lame person I've ever had the displeasure of meeting.

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven ''The only differences between them are time it takes to occur and scale at which it occurs'' This is all happening in your head right NOW! There is NO evidence for macro-evolution and ALL your ''micro-evolution'' are completely in accord with the Creationist viewpoint. YOU FAILED :)

[CelestialWolven]

@axe414 Evolution is supported by thousands of pieces of HARD, TANGIBLE, UNDISPUTABLE pieces of evidence! I have a hard time believing that. If you had been to Talk Origins, you would have seen the GARGANTUAN list of transitional fossils literally forming a web between one form to the next. Including human transitional fossils! If that doesn't do it for you, get your ass down to the Smithsonian, use your brain, and learn something that matters!

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven ''Evolution is supported by thousands of pieces of HARD, TANGIBLE, UNDISPUTABLE pieces of evidence'' Well you shouldn't have any problem showing me those evidences :P. Show me your evidences! Talk Origins is just a troll website! There is plenty of creationist websites that refutes every single claim of that website! go to CreationWiki you'll see.. Show me your evidences :) One at a time! I'll refute every single one of them :) The smithsonian.. Another Masonic propaganda!

[CelestialWolven]

@axe414 Talk Origins is an amazing web site. Prove that it is a troll website or get the fuck off the internet, you demented Christian swine. You don't even know where it comes from, so you can't disprove squat about its legitimacy! And I've seen those creationists web sites. They're bull shit, for the mere fact that the Bible is bull shit. Didn't even look up those Bible contradictions I told you to look up, did you? The Smithsonian = the real heaven in comparison to your pointless drivel!

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven ''demented Christian swine'' You insult me almost from the beginning. Have I insulted you ONCE?! Don't you see that you're the demented one here? ''They're bull shit, for the mere fact that the Bible is bull shit'' Well Jesus christ is still the only God of this universe and the theory of evolution is a fairy tale! :) You're a lover of LIES. I already look up about the contradictions a looong time ago :) All refuted! You just want to go after your own LUSTS!.

[CelestialWolven]

@axe414 It's not a fallacy. Technology was developed by what? Science. What method do we use to develop new technology? THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD. Idiot! I'm starting to think you're nothing but a god damned idiotic troll commenting on your own video. You make absolutely no sense, you have the blind misconception that atheists and scientists somehow believe in and worship Satan, and none of your wild accusations, including the what you believe form the Bible, holds any merit in actual reality!

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven ''THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD'' Can you reproduce evolution in a laboratory? UUmm I didn't think so.. This theory is NOT science! Will you wake up!? Stop calling your religion science! As I already told you this theory has in fact slowed down REAL science! Evolutionists are so desperate to find 'evidences for their stupid religion that they accept hoaxes and propagate them for decades before admiting it was a hoax! This is NOt science. This is DELUSION! :)

[CelestialWolven]

@axe414 YES WE CAN! We control bacteria evolution in a lab, and we've even been able to manipulate genes to produce mice, frogs, bacteria, insects, and other small rapidly-producing organisms that are resistant to certain diseases, those that have extra joints and limbs to run faster, and even changing the color of a species just by manipulating a few choice genes! EVOLUTION IS NOT A RELIGION! SCIENCE IS NOT A RELIGION! LEARN THE FUCKING DEFINITION OF RELIGION OR GET THE FUCK OF THE INTERNET!

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven ARRgh lol This is NOT evolution! this is micro-evolution! You take a giant leap of FAITH to convince yourself that this proves that you came from a ROCK billions of years ago! By the way all those changes you claim are loss of information. Can you produce life in a laboratory? Can you produce life from a rock? NO! micro-evolution dosen't prove MACRO-EVOLUTION! Why evolutionists always brings those stupid micro-evolutions between the same kinds!?

[CelestialWolven]

@axe414 I'm insulting you because you're a giant freaking moron! And I don't believe in holding back! I've already refuted your claims about rocks and laboratory evolution, so fucking give it up! Macro and micro evolution are the exact same thing, which I've already stated multiple times! You are not a scientist, and you know NOTHING about what you profess to be lies! I was a Christian for 18 years. It's bull shit. You, on the other hand, have no experience from the other side. Give it up!

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven ''I've already refuted your claims about rocks'' LOL No you haven't Can you explain where you came from? how evolution started then? where life came from? You need matter before life? did life simply started out of nothing from nowhere? It started on earth? where? when? How? Why they teach in books that it rained on rocks for billions of years and then life began from this primordial soup?! So the books lie? So I am right then when I say that Evolutionists use LIES in their book

[CelestialWolven]

@axe414 If you dont' know any of these things, then you haven't read the sources I've linked you to! Saying you have and actually doing it are two different things. I find it hard to believe that you've read the ENTIRE Talk Origins site, because it could take ten books by itself! Read them and learn it! I'm not going to do it again!

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven Well you said that you saw all the Creation websites ... Uumm so you have red all those websites completely?! this is more than hundreds of BOOKS! LOL Your arguments are so STUPID I can't believe this! You are PATHETIC! (No offence). You will notice that many of them refutes BIG TIME your stupid talk origin websites yeahoo! :)

[CelestialWolven]

@axe414 Of course science makes mistakes! It is all about discovery, you fool! If science claimed to know everything, we wouldn't need to discover new things! At least science admits what it doesn't know, instead of making up wild fairy tales that defy logic, reason, and REALITY. If we didn't use the scientific method, we would never have gotten beyond th idea that praying could cure the sick and wounded. Instead, we have used our brains and trained professional medical staff to do that!

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven ''Of course science makes mistakes'' And it takes 45 years to fix them? If evolutionists were REALLY honest with themselves, they would have refuted this HOAX right at the beginning. But eh.. they're so desperate to find the missing link that they will simply not bother checking the FACTS! You assume that healing with prayers is impossible. You use circular reasonning and this is FALLACIOUS! :) by the way I am not against science! I am against LIES!

[CelestialWolven]

@axe414 If you're not against science, then you should know it takes time to make new discoveries. It's taken humans thousands of years to learn to fly! Are you going to complain about that, too?! You're so desperate to prove your point, but you're digging yourself further and further into fallacy and ignorance and just plain despair. Learn to argue, and then maybe I'll come back. You're a fucking idiot, and I'm done with this. Congratulations on proving yourself an uneduated idiot. Bye bye!

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven ''You're so desperate to prove your point, but you're digging yourself further and further into fallacy and ignorance and just plain despair'' Haha you're so funny :) So you use some kind of stupid fallacious argument like ''airplanes'' and I'm the desperate one here?! HAHA You call me names and I'm the one who should learn to debate? UUmm.. Yes evolutionists are all the same.. when they lose.. insulting and calling of names are not very good arguments you know... :)

[CelestialWolven]

@axe414 I haven't lost. I've won. You still haven't proven that God exists. Check and mate. The names I've called you are justified, and your lack of name-calling and pointing it out is the biggest fallacy of all. I'm not afraid to use words to the fullest extent. Christian pussy.

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven You have serious issues... You need Jesus Christ :)

[CelestialWolven]

@axe414 You have serious issues....you need a swift kick in the ass.

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven May the Lord open your eyes :) Jesus Saves. The NWO will be defeated by him :) I hope you won't fall for the great delusion. Especially the ''disclosure Project'' Good luck!

[CelestialWolven]

@axe414 I'm done with you. You are blocked. I'm finished wallowing in your ignorance. I think it's starting to become contagious.

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven Blocking me dosen't prove evolution sorry! :D So keep believing you came from a rock and that your ancestor is a BANANA. I'm telling you that a NEW world Order is coming in a town near you and it will come with a One world Luciferian religion. The evolution theory will be used and anyone refusing to adhere to this new world will be killed in the name of evolution. Exactly like Hitler did! He was a great fan of evolution and a theosophist NEW AGER! Don,t fall for this Jesus saves

[CelestialWolven]

@axe414 No, but the videos I sent to your inbox, and the literature I sent you earlier, most certainly do. Start refuting each one of them in detail, or get the fuck out.

[CelestialWolven]

@axe414 Oh, like the way millions of people have been killed in the name of your God during WW2, the Crusades, and the war on terrorism? Yeah, keep dreaming. Evolution is about as much as religion as bald is a hair color! Keep hallucinating, moron. By the way, repeating the same statement that evolution is a religion, when it is actually a natural process and not a WORLDVIEW, does not make you correct. Get busy refuting my messages, closet heathen.

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven LOL you'Re just whowing how ignorant you are.. No wonder.. You're an evolutionist! haha! The Crusades was made by the Roman Catholic Church. This Church is based on Mystery Babylon. The Whore of Babylon. They took Christianity and mixed it with their Gnostic Religion. They are now to this day working to bring about a NEW WORLD ORDER and a ONE WORLD LUCIFERIAN RELIGION! YOU FAIL! Evolution IS a religion since you have to take it by FAITH! NO EVIDENCE NO FOSSIL NADA NIET!

[CelestialWolven]

@axe414 Prove that your God exists with physical, tangible evidence, otherwise you are all talk and no substance. Just like every other Christian like you. If a God exists, let him be known, or shut the fuck up. You haven't won, because you haven't proven anything! I've given you evidence, and you dismiss it before even looking at it! I give you logic, and you revert to caveman instinct and refuse to adhere to it! It works both ways, idiotic person of idiocy.

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven ''Prove that your God exists'' It's funny since you can't prove that he dosen't exist, you ask me to prove him? Look at his creation. Look at yourself. The impossibility of the opposite proves that he exist! You can't find God for the same reason a thief can't find the sheriff :) You want to find God? Search him with all your heart. Ask Jesus to help you. But I don't think that by insulting and hating christians you will find him more easily.. well maybe.. lol

[CelestialWolven]

@axe414 The burden of proof is on you. Why would I have to prove the NONEXISTENCE of something? Especially if it doesn't exist? Saying that just because it's here that's proof that God created it is about as ridiculous as saying, "This bowl of soup is sitting here. It couldn't have mad itself. So my mother must have made it, even though I have absolutely no proof that she did!" Look at my proof in your messages. Start refuting them. The burden is on you!

[CelestialWolven]

@axe414 And I do mean refute them all. Every single point made in every single video/article/statement. Because until you do, your worldview holds no basis in reality, and you are simply wasting my, and the rest of the world's, time with your prescence.

[axe414]

''You know, the same method that powers your car'' Your Humanist Satanic FAIRY TALE theory of evolution dosen't power my car!? Are you crazy? Is this the kind of argument you will use to make your point!? Why did the so well educated scientist community took 45 years to show that the Eoanthropus dawsoni (Piltdown Man) was an HOAX!? Science is self-correcting or Scientists are siply desperate to prove evolution? In fact your stupid theory is slowing down REAL Science!

[CelestialWolven]

@axe414 That's YOU being unable to discern one piece of my argument from another. I never stated that evolution powers your car. That is the deluded connection you made in your own deluded brain!

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven Well don't use those kinds of Falacious arguments to ''prove'' that evolution is science. Evolution is not science. It is a religion. by the way did you know that the education system was largely influenced by John Dewey a Theosophist? Theosophy = Gnosticism... No wonder why they now BRAINWASH children into this FAIRY TALe that is the evolution theory. why do you think it is called a theory? Because it is just a theory! By the way this theory was made by MASONS!

[CelestialWolven]

@axe414 EVOLUTION IS NOT A RELIGION! OPEN A GOD DAMNED FUCKING DICTIONARY YOU PRECOCIOUS IDIOTIC FOOL! THERE ARE NO DEITIES BEING WORSHIPPED! DONE! REFUTED!

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven you believe in a FAIRY TALE ''a looong long time ago'' your granpa was a ROCK! LOL Yes this is a religion. This is a Humanistic religion and your deity is the Human mind! Your own counsciousness. Why do you think satanists call themselves Humanists? Because they believe they are the most evolve beings and that the most illuminated ones have the rights to rule over the CATTLE! the GOYIMS! We are the Goyims! Wake up! The new world order is all about this!

[CelestialWolven]

@axe414 Evolution does not say we evolved from rocks. Wrong. Wrong. And again wrong. Prove it or get the fuck out now. Religion definition - the service and worship of God or the supernatural. Nope. No God in science or atheism. Refuted again. You are making this all up in your own deluded head. Good bye.

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven ''Evolution does not say we evolved from rocks'' UUm so we evolve from what?! There must be a beginning NO?! this is exactly what I'm trying to tell you. You show all those micro-evolution that simply prove CREATION, and then you take a giant leap of faith to believe that you are realted to a BANANA! and ultimately to a ROCK! Yes a ROCK! LOL. This is not a fairy tale?!

[CelestialWolven]

@axe414 The origins of the universe is a process called abiogenesis. That has nothing to do with evolution. Science doesn't know what came before the big bang. And there is nothing wrong with that. That DOESN'T make it correct to  default to the stance of, "Well we don't know, so God must have done it! HERP DERP!" False. False. False. No, I'm not related to a banana, because I am a new creature, formed after billions and billions of years of evolution from a single-celled organism.

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven '''The origins of the universe is a process called abiogenesis. That has nothing to do with evolution'' Abiogenesis has never been proven! Creating life from non-living matter! So you believe you came from a ROCK! Why can't you be honest and tell it like it is?! Abiogenesis is simply another FAIRY TALE! And now you're tryuing to disassociate it from Evolution! LOL SO PATHETIC! Just prove how you're in a stupid GNOSTIC RELIGION that CAN'T be proven! LOL PATHETIC!

[axe414]

@CelestialWolven 'You know, the same method that powers your car'' Your Humanist Satanic FAIRY TALE theory of evolution dosen't power my car!? Are you crazy? Is this the kind of argument you will use to make your point!? Why did the so well educated scientist community took 45 years to show that the Eoanthropus dawsoni (Piltdown Man) was an HOAX!? Science is self-correcting or Scientists are siply desperate to prove evolution? In fact your stupid theory is slowing down REAL Science!

[truckcompany]

lol Zeitgeist, like anyone takes that seriously...

[axe414]

@truckcompany Lovers of lies takes it seriously. God bless you

[veganath]

Why does it matter if Jesus existed or not, for those who believe he was real, they would model their lives on his example....ie Manifesting LOVE(or God if you are more comfortable with that label... God is love. (1 John 4:8) after all).

The real tragedy is that the majority of Christians aren't exemplary by being the embodiments of love & compassion, whether Jesus existed or not isn't relevant if people are loving.

[axe414]

@veganath Jesus died on the cross and shed his blood for us. Jesus saves. This is the importance of this. His blood saves. He is the only way to the Father. The Only living God. The Word coming in flesh on earth. They killed the pure Word of God. His sacrifice is the pure Testament of Love for us. He rose from the dead 3 days later and anyone turning from his sins and calling him to be saved will be saved. He really existed and eveyone need to be saved by him.

[veganath]

@axe414 He is the only way to the Father. His sacrifice is the pure Testament of Love for us.anyone turning from his sins and calling him to be saved will be saved. Everyone need to be saved by him.

QUESTION: How would you explain this "The Biblical? truth" to these beautiful little girls, they are triplets, congenitally blind & deaf..... and therefore dumb.

watch?v=Rj5_t0wDkKQ&feature=re­­­­­­lated

Will they be condemned to an eternity in hell simply because they will/can never know Jesus??

[axe414]

@veganath I think you should worry about those who received the Gospel and rejected it. Those who heard about the great gift Jesus gave us but rejected it. I pray for the spiritually blind people.

equip(DOT)org/perspectives/wha­t-happens-to-people-who-have-n­ever-heard-the-gospel

[veganath]

@axe414 U say JC is the only way? Interestingly there is only 1 reference to Jesus being the only way as interpreted by Christians, if that was as important as Christians want everyone to believe why would there only be the one reference to it

However there are so many references in the Bible to the importance of LOVE.

'Love your neighbor as yourself. There is no commandment greater than these.'

Mark12:31(Sounds important?)

'Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love' 1John4:8

[veganath]

"And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love." 1 Corinthians 13:13 (Sounds important?)

"But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back.Then your reward will be great(Heaven within), and you will be sons of the Most High(as was Jesus), because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked" Luke 6:35

[veganath]

"Greater love(God) has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends." John 15:13

So even if you were unfortunate not to know Jesus, if you manifest love, you manifest God(she is in heaven...within all living beings)

[axe414]

@veganath Who do you think you are to pick and choose in the Bible? God is Love and Jesus Saves. now you know that God is Love. That dosen't change the FACT that Jesus is the Only way. That his blood washes our sins. Yes God is Love and this is why he came on earth and made the most perfect testament for our salvation. Now if you want to dismiss what Jesus said, go for it!

Joh 14:6 ''Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.''

[veganath]

@axe414 the word of God and the 'fallen interpretation' of the word of God are NOT the same same thing, I would posit that we should be on the look out for messages that we have not fully understood yet. We could both continue debating the meaning of scripture from our fallen interpretations, but finally need to ask ourselves with the heart of compassion of christ, if what we do is for our spiritual self interest and that of God's plan for the renewal of all creation for the Peaceable Kingdom.

[axe414]

@veganath A 5 years old would understand the simple Gospel of Jesus Christ. Your attempt to dismiss the Saving Blood of Jesus Christ shows exactly your agenda. Anyone reading the Bible and searching for the TRUE Salvation will find it easily. Jesus blood saves and he is the ONLY one. NOT Mohammed, NOT Buddha. NO ONE ELSE. Jesus is Lord and Savior Amen.

I Corinthians 1:8 ''For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness but unto us which are saved, it is the POWER of God''

[veganath]

@axe414 Not if that 5 year old was congenitally blind deaf & dumb, they can never know JC, which calls into question the legitimacy of your claim ie John14:6

Jesus said "I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven." So it would seem that all we need to become is like joyful children to enter the kingdom of heaven(NOW), I believe these beautiful triplets have a better chance to know heaven than those of us who read scriptures

[veganath]

It always amazes me that we place so much importance on the "ONE" (Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, Mohammed) & choose not to model our lives on these loving & compassionate beings. It's like we are fighting over which is the correct map to use for our life's journey. The ONE chosen is usually predetermined, not by genuine inquiry or intellectual honesty, but by geo-cultural happen stance. if I were discussing with Muslim she might say Allah saves and he is the ONLY one. NOT Jesus, Buddha. NO ONE ELSE!

[axe414]

@veganath You haven't red the article I gave you. It refutes your claim BIG TIME. My Lord and Savior is Jesus Christ and he is coming back really soon and he will destroy the Satanic NWO and new age Luciferian religion. Jesus is the only way. You don't like this eh? You don't like the fact that Jesus is the only way and that only his blood saves! You don't like the truth. You want to discredit the simple Gospel of Jesus Christ? Do it on your channel. You have a clear agenda against Jesus.

[axe414]

@48mmwatch Acharya S is a faker ;) All her claims about Jesus have been debunked so many times. You're welcome to believe in her Satanic LIES. God bless

[48mmwatch]

@axe414 you mean the temple of seti the first in abydos doesnt have gyphs that say "isis mary" "i am the great virigin"

carved in stone? which are 10 000 years before the bible was written.

take a vacation to abydos 300 miles south of the giza piramids and look for your self.

[axe414]

@48mmwatch What method of datation was used? I know all about Mystery Babylon. All the false Virgins part of the unholy trinity. I really doubt your ''10 000 BC'' The earth is 6000 years old so... :) By the way Evolution never hapened. This theory was created by Masons. You won't evolve to become a god... God created the whole Universe in 6 days and he owns you. You want to believe the lies of Satan? Go for it! The New age world order will be destroyed by my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ :)

[48mmwatch]

@axe414 , the popes mitre is a fish head facing the sky.(pisces)

do a google image search "church zodiac".

this is the age of pisces, jesus with 2 fish. two fisher men, we are almost in the age of aquarius (luke 22:10)

its aaaaall zodiac based mythology.

sorry monkey boy :D

[axe414]

@48mmwatch Plzz watch a good refutation of the movie Zeitgeist. The Roman Catholic Church is the Whore of Babylon. They took Christianity and mixed it with their Pagan mystery Babylonian religion. This is why the Pope wears a Fish head. Don't be sorry for me.. You should be sorry for yourself and repent to the Lord Jesus Christ. Stop listening to Freemasons like Jordan Maxwell and Michael Tsarion. They are Shill Disinfo agent. Your comment is a direct copy/paste of Zeitgeist.

[48mmwatch]

@axe414 google image search --church zodiac--

The Dormition Church on Mount Zion in Jerusalem. <--this church has a giant zodiac on the floor.

i have looked at those authors and they are right. you have baseless rhetoric.

[axe414]

@48mmwatch LOL you're funny. Trolling on my channel won't make you win any argument. All your arguments are based on the movie Zeitgeist. So lame :P As I told you. The Gnostics stole Christianity and created another perversion of God. You'Re spitting the same crap as any good followers of Jordan Maxwell. This guy is a freemason. In fact God's glory is written in the stars. Those gnostics are astrologers. This is how they knew that a Messiah was supposed to come.

[48mmwatch]

@axe414 and the only reference book you have is the bible.

did you drink poison? no of course not. you dont believe either.

[axe414]

@48mmwatch Your references comes from Luciferians so don't be so proud :P. I don't drink poison because I have something to do here on earth. Warn people... Who am I to decide my own death? You make no sense at ALL. My references comes from my own research about Mystery Babylon. Not Zeitgeist! The Catholic Church is the Whore. The Jesuits are Kabbalists. The Freemasons are New agers. They are wannabe gods. There is a global Luciferian Initiation coming in a town near you... I'll pray for you

[48mmwatch]

@axe414 let me see if i get this right.

god had himself killed to save us from himself?

LOL

[axe414]

@48mmwatch Well he did not kill himself. Sinners killed him. They killed the Living Word. They killed the perfect sinless Lamb. They killed the Pure truth. They killed the Son of God. God loves us so much that he sent his only begotten Son knowing that lovers of lies would kill him for what he was. The perfect testament. The perfect proof that God loves us so much. But still people wants to be their own god. God loves you more than you think. The blood of Jesus can save you from what is coming.

[48mmwatch]

@axe414 there is absolutely no reason on earth to believe anything you said here. there are tons of reasons to think that all religions are based on the zodiac and on ancient belief systems.

but you still havent shown us that you believe mark 16:18. if you survive drinking poison i will be 100 percent on your side.

my brain works differently than yours, i need proof. saying things doesnt do it for me.

[axe414]

@48mmwatch You believe the Lies of Zeitgeist. Zeitgeist claims about Jesus Have ALL been refuted a long time ago here is a link. Anyone with ears to hear let them ear. You obviously are a lover of lies. Especially for believing the LIES of gnostics Luciferians. You're really into this poison thing eh? I already told you why I wouldn't drink your stupid poison. This is completely nonsense and I'm tired of arguing with someone using such Stupid statement. You want to believe the LIES? GO FOR IT!

[48mmwatch]

@axe414 youre not christian. you dont believe.

your book says not to judge, but you do that any way. you dont believe anything. your book says we(christians) are known by our works. and you have shown your true colors.

phony. just like the rest.

[axe414]

@48mmwatch I don't judge you at all :) I'm just telling you that if you want to believe the lies, GO FOR IT! I have nothing to prove to you. You want to believe the same exact lies as Zeitgeist and all the Masonic shills like Jordan Maxwell? Go for it. I can't control what you believe nor judge you. You can try to pin me as an hater. I could care less :) I pretty much don't like the Lies you believe in, but you love them! You're a lover of lies. Good luck with that. I can only pray for you.

[48mmwatch]

@axe414 and u dont believe anything your book says.

jesus said to sell everything! clearly u own a computer.

even if a giant hand reached through the clouds and waved hello, it still would nt be proof it is your god.

[axe414]

@48mmwatch I'm tired of arguing with someone using such stupid argument. My Lord Jesus Christ will destroy the NWO and new ''age'' of Saturn. Jesus Christ is Lord yeahoo! You can reject him all you want, he's still the only God of the Universe! You are clearly a troll and you'Re blocked for using stupid troll arguments. If you need those kind of arguments to reject JEsus Christ, you're obviously LOST big time. The only one that can help you is Jesus Christ. He is God almighty so you need him :)

[48mmwatch]

@axe414 google image search church zodiac.

The Dormition Church on Mount Zion in Jerusalem<---this church has a giant zodiac on the floor

[axe414]

@48mmwatch Your problem is that you take as granted that God dosen't exist. If only you took in persective that God really exist, you could then understand why those Satanists knew about the Messiah. As above so Below. Why do you think they are Kabbalists? Because they try to take God's glory for themselves and themselves become god. But they can't because God is Holy. There is only ONE God, ONE Son and ONE Holy Spirit. Those Luciferians are so lame. They believe the first lie of Satan.

[48mmwatch]

@axe414 In fact YOU dont believe the bible or in God or jesus. want me to prove it? mark 16:18 lets get some antifreeze and watch you drink it. Or even better let your kids drink it. Let me guess. Youre not gunna do that.

and you shouldnt cause you will die, and you know you will, because , you dont actually believe the bible.

[axe414]

@48mmwatch Seriously... After reading a comment like this I can assure you that you need Jesus Christ in your life. You will have 2 choices really soon. In fact you always had only 2 choices :) Lucifer or Jesus Christ. The Lie or the Truth. The NWO will come with a One world Luciferian religion. A Luciferian initiation. Now I strongly suggest to pray for discernement and ask God to show you the truth. Stop listening to Jordan Maxwell or any of those Luciferian Theosophists and read the Bible.

[matrixlone]

@axe414 oi have vid on that in my favs