Im gonna say this straight they suk. no seriously my short 140 ass can tacklethem off the roof. Memorizing form worck but to what extent afte 5-6-7 year of traing no. that a sales pitsch to force students to become depentent on a master(cha ching paycheck) . they never forced them to do it when the arts were invented so y should ppl do it now. ppl are misimfromed. Forms are a teachers guide ment to be passed down to heir in order to remeber concepts to teach.
@Sifu489 ccuz both todays and hong kong days ppl suked and inovators like wong, bruce lee, and hawkins. who seemed to be shunned for theri unorthadoxy. cuz fuking dumb ass tried to systemize martial arts as did chinese scholar education. martial arts is not ment from memorizing its ment for disecting and evolving bruce lee merly rediscovered the old method of studying that got lost over the ages of bullshidoness the plauge the country
LOL no it wouldnt. Remember jiujitsu always make's fun of western boxing. Some people will get it some wont thats all there is to it.
Apart from that it would only make the wing chun community look even more like thugs than it already does.
Besides its not suited to MMA or any organised fight its for self defense. The person using it would have to be a good athleat and be aware of how to keep safe at a distance if he's going to be able to to find an opening and use ving tsun effectively.
@mardukalpha well the problem isnt the style when the context change a person should be able to change with the context since chinese kung fu evolved from wrestling before it was a striking art. so teh main problem is that students dont know the first think about connectivity and bridging basiclly the wrestler connection the opponet in teh match. Also during this era martial arts wer dying and becoming more for show.
Actualy from what i was told this was in wong shun leungs possestion first and lee jun fan "borrowed" it lol. This video however is taken from what has been released and its NOT the whole video from what i know of after this is a fight with bruce lee and though he won he got his arse kicked so i doubt thats gonna be realeased lol.
and its not surprising you would think that because 99% of the ving tsun/wing chun out there is utter garbarge not because its not wsl ving tsun or any nonsense like that just that most people just dont seem to get it and infact sadly there are many in the wsl lineage who dont seem to grasp the concepts. :(
thanks for clarifying the experience of the two fighters, that explains alot. I do agree spm and wing chun have many similairties, but personally,( that means speaking for myself!) i feel that mantis is a more in depth art, takes longer to master and more focus on sensitivity and internal power. As i said i don;t have huge experience of wing chun so no offense intended due to limited knoweledge.
Wing Chun is more similar to Tai Chi than anything. Usually Wing Chun takes couple of years to master if you train hardcore everyday and with a good instructor. Tai Chi takes up to 10-20 years. The ultimate stage of Tai Chi is to use it in combat. A lot of Wing Chun practitioners end up taking Tai chi as well.
@TheSenseofTouch not the case thought all chinese martial arts decend from same lineage of traditional wresling and evolved based on weapon motions and personal experimentations with physics. wing chun is distan relative closer to karate bak mei,southern mantis, fukien white crane. while tai chi shows a mix of both northern(look at some long fists and in ur mind replace the punch with a palm push motion) and southern styles since its along th border
spmmantisboy i have actualy heard a few good things about your style from a student at my school. And im aware of the history of it. Although i havent seen any similarities myself (keep in mind i have only been able to see youtube videos of it) it dose look interesting although what i saw looked more like choy lay fut than ving tsun another very effective style =)
also mantis has the same focus on controlling ventre and they also do not stop moving forward once they start. short range very powerful machinegun like strikes. looks like wu chan lam has better foundation in his kung fu. you see he maintains his footwork throughout bout. Also i have never seen a mantis guy bend over like that and jump around. very ammateur.
what style of mantis is this supposed to be? Are they bothe beginners? Reason i ask is i practice southern mantis, and it does not look anything like what i do.
what the hell. im getting really sick of people commenting on vt and being negative about it. most people havent even gotten into any real fights. i you did you would instinctively know what works..all styles work you have to work it
Yeah the VT student is bigger yeah its nothing impressive but it shows that even with that little bit of training the style works. The mantis stylist is geting hit he trys punching wu back but he cant because the center is being controled. His punches dont look very good at all but it would be no differnt if it was say a hook punch the point is if you make it there first and as long as your punches are effective theres little your opponant can do.
And how is it exactly? this is on youtube for historical refernce and to display a new practitioners abilty in controling his opponant. THREE WEEKS TRAINING .
again rather than searching for evidence of its effectiveness from the resualts of "some fight" which can be variable to many circomstances eg a fighter could be sick and not at 100% you would be better off the learn about the system yourself. Notice i said LEARN not get taught which is what big orginasations do and nothing more.
During the september 11 attacts though i question the offical story. Only one camera in the whole of new york got the first plane on film thats the murday brothers french journalist who were doing a story on firemen by a complete accident they got the first attack on film. So if they didnt get it on film would that mean that the first attack didnt happen just because it wasnt recorded?
Maruosorllius there isnt any because ving tsun is for street fights not organised fights. If you see it in a organised fight its not being used effectively because the practitioner isnt going to want to hurt his opponant his life in not in imidiat danger.
Did you even bother reading the facts about this fight before mouthing off?? At the time of this fight neither student of either style had even 2 mounths experience in training EITHER STYLE.
OF COURSE THEY'D GET RAPED BY A BOXER WITH 6 MONTHS TRAINING!
Why on earth would a boxer be attacking ving tsun anyway? Anybody who actualy knows a fair bit about proper ving tsun will know they have alot in commem yet are fundamentaly differnt.
He "borrowed" a copy from wong shun leung then claimed that he'd "lost it". Theres probably a whole bunch of other stuff hidden away by the lee's. Probably gives them more material for more doco's/special featurets which = more royaltys.
When i say real fight i dont mean streetfight i just mean that these guys are friends and are just demonstrating techniuqe. The point of this spar is to get your opponant off balance nothing more. BTW wu chan lam is the guy in the black pants.
A real fight came after this one with bruce lee and some other dude and they realy did want to hurt eachother unfortunatly neither bruce's family or william chaung want to release that footage so this is all i had to post. Its still no more impressive than a boxing bout anyway from my understanding. Plus thought bruce wins he gets pretty worked over =P
Hey what is this?. Shouldn't we discuss about the Vid posted. blahblah12367, This was a teen fight as Beimo had levels, i mean someone like Gongsau Wong faught the hard ones against masters and the best of each style. Sifu Hawkins Cheung owns alot of those fights in his site, but I think you must buy it.
Who cares if I havent posted videos. Is posting videos now the hallmark of martial expertise or something? Ha I bet you wish it was! I don't want to talk ving tsun concepts with narrow minded cultish prats with low Iqs. I 'll stick to practice instead thanks. Which is why this conversation is over. Have a nice life.
No Im not stalking you - I study Wing Chun (not Leung Ting) and have been unfortunate to find your stupid little comments across youtube videos and on other forums. They genuinely make me angry.
You've been talking shit about wing chun all over youtube. Seriously what the fuk is your problem, do you get raped in th ass everyday by a wing chun practitioner?, is that why you hate wing chun?
How long have i trained for? 8 mounths of 10 hours a day training under bill dowding. How long have i been studying vingtsun theory every day since 2002.
Marduk - you are more sad. Just reading what you actually think will tell anyone that. You also obviously dont understand what parody and irony are.
I couldnt care less if someone ive never met called me a psycho based on a comment that was actually parodying morons like you (look it up in the dictionary again). Maybe that gives you a clue as to what people think you are when they read your expert opinions.
Its quite clear that you are from leung tings sect of ving tsun since i have NEVER publicly critisesed any other style of fighting EVER! Just leung tings wing tsun joke! And if your stupid enough to call me a zelot for being in a "ving tsun cult" when im not yet fork out $300 US an hour or whatever ridiculas amout it is to learn broke ving tsun from a man who claims to have been tought more from ip man than others then you my friend are not in a position to do so.
a) Me who likes to "TALK" about ving tsun concepts or
b) A guy who aparently is stalking me knows somhow i havent learned chi sau yet (not that it matters about disscussing the conscepts of it) and has a few comments posted on his profile NOT MADE BY ME talking about what a phychopathic arsehole he is and that he's a bully? Your the keybord warrior pal. You havent posted any videos just made retarded abusive comments.
You dont get do you? Because I dont like you or your comments you assume Im a ground fighter. Id love to see the world throguh your eyes - people that are nice to me must be traditional ving tsun, people that arent are probably BJJ. Do you think that the last car that splashed you was secretly driven by a BJJ practioner or the last girl that smiled at you (not sure that would happen) was an original Yip Man student. Theres a world outisde you little martial arts debate forums.
How long have you been studying wing chun to think you can correct other schools and lineages youve never trained under?
How long have you been teaching? How many beimos have you engaged in? How many fights? In other words what puts you in the position to PUBLICLY criticise other lineages over the internet. Does your teacher know you are doing it?
Why am I a hypocrite? The only reason im posting here is to rip it out of plonkers like u. You actually believe that you can correct people from different schools and your comments are meaningful. So who's more stupid?
Ive plenty of mates thank you - there just not cyber geeks obssessed with TALKING about wing chun.
I critise ving tsun when its not correct yes why shouldent i? I know what its ment to look like. Just becuase you may have training in some shity ving tsun school dosent make you an expert smart arse. I ALWAYS QUESTION dont you fucking dare make assumptions about me douchbag.
Mate you still didnt make any sensible posts just persional attacks. It seems clear to me that just because you cant fight the logic of my opinians you come out with defimation. You need a life pal like the comments on your profile sudgest your a very sad little man. Get over YOUR ego. And you telling me to go to a cult is pure hilatiry since you seem to take your groundfighting teachings as doctorin and come out to bash other styles.
Yes you are pretending to be somehting - your pretending to be an expert able to criticise other schools left right and centre. Im fed up of seeing your posts popping up telling this or that person what they should be doing. We dont need morons like you in the martial arts who are unable to think independently for themselves and really think their style has all the magical answers. You should find a cult to join instead - youd be good at that. By the way do actually train at all?
Everyone has an ego and from the crap that you post on the net youve got a pretty big one. My name is not Nick, Im not WSL lineage, im just someone unfortunate enough to have read your moronic comments. My comments here up until now have not been serious and have been meant as a parody of the internet experts that post here. You were my principal inspiration.
well i dont know who you are nick *cough* but your still an idiot. Also what are you calling impure and incorect ving tsun? Im from barry lee's lineage fool.
Also im not pretending to be anything im just sharing my opinian and constantly thinking about fighting. Seems like you have an ego pal. Why dont you talk about why this is bad?
No I just dont like impure incorrect VING TSUN. thats why i post my opinion on wing chun all over youtube and pretend to be an expert. I criticise small and irrelevant details even though I havent started chi sau yet. If I was parodying someone here - do you know what that means mardukalpha - who do you think that would be??
Not to mention incorrect mantis. No use of the 12 verbal fromula. Hook grapple ,pluck is the bread and butter of mantis. No ging, and the hops are incorrect. In my opinion they're both begginers.
Im gonna say this straight they suk. no seriously my short 140 ass can tacklethem off the roof. Memorizing form worck but to what extent afte 5-6-7 year of traing no. that a sales pitsch to force students to become depentent on a master(cha ching paycheck) . they never forced them to do it when the arts were invented so y should ppl do it now. ppl are misimfromed. Forms are a teachers guide ment to be passed down to heir in order to remeber concepts to teach.
kaindrg 1 year ago
@kaindrg
Go learn some real wing chun from Victor kan before you judge , the guy in the gray pants sucks , true that , but the other one is a master.
dudefrombelgium 2 weeks ago
@Sifu489 ccuz both todays and hong kong days ppl suked and inovators like wong, bruce lee, and hawkins. who seemed to be shunned for theri unorthadoxy. cuz fuking dumb ass tried to systemize martial arts as did chinese scholar education. martial arts is not ment from memorizing its ment for disecting and evolving bruce lee merly rediscovered the old method of studying that got lost over the ages of bullshidoness the plauge the country
kaindrg 1 year ago
LOL no it wouldnt. Remember jiujitsu always make's fun of western boxing. Some people will get it some wont thats all there is to it.
Apart from that it would only make the wing chun community look even more like thugs than it already does.
Besides its not suited to MMA or any organised fight its for self defense. The person using it would have to be a good athleat and be aware of how to keep safe at a distance if he's going to be able to to find an opening and use ving tsun effectively.
mardukalpha 2 years ago
@mardukalpha well the problem isnt the style when the context change a person should be able to change with the context since chinese kung fu evolved from wrestling before it was a striking art. so teh main problem is that students dont know the first think about connectivity and bridging basiclly the wrestler connection the opponet in teh match. Also during this era martial arts wer dying and becoming more for show.
kaindrg 1 year ago
how can you call that fighting?
no offence to anyone
covGuk 3 years ago
Typical Wing Chun sparring - ineffective, unbalanced, messy.
tillerbear 3 years ago
This video is too short to determine anything from the fight other than that is was a stalling fight.
ThePedoBrothers 3 years ago
Wow. Not bad for 3 weeks of schooling.
Technocian 3 years ago
What moron flagged this?
HitlerCakes 4 years ago 5
devilzmantis:
Actualy from what i was told this was in wong shun leungs possestion first and lee jun fan "borrowed" it lol. This video however is taken from what has been released and its NOT the whole video from what i know of after this is a fight with bruce lee and though he won he got his arse kicked so i doubt thats gonna be realeased lol.
mardukalpha 4 years ago
lol non taken
and its not surprising you would think that because 99% of the ving tsun/wing chun out there is utter garbarge not because its not wsl ving tsun or any nonsense like that just that most people just dont seem to get it and infact sadly there are many in the wsl lineage who dont seem to grasp the concepts. :(
mardukalpha 4 years ago 3
@mardukalpha FINALLY A BROTHER ON THIS COMMENT SECTION THAT GETS IT
kaindrg 1 year ago
@mardukalpha
Have you heard of Victor Kahn?
dudefrombelgium 2 weeks ago
does anyone know that this is an old Authentic Bruce Lee fight film?
devilzmantis 4 years ago
my friend however said that southern mantis and vingtsun at least wong shun leung vingtsun are very much alike but again i havent seen myself.
mardukalpha 4 years ago
thanks for clarifying the experience of the two fighters, that explains alot. I do agree spm and wing chun have many similairties, but personally,( that means speaking for myself!) i feel that mantis is a more in depth art, takes longer to master and more focus on sensitivity and internal power. As i said i don;t have huge experience of wing chun so no offense intended due to limited knoweledge.
spmmantisboy 4 years ago
Wing Chun is more similar to Tai Chi than anything. Usually Wing Chun takes couple of years to master if you train hardcore everyday and with a good instructor. Tai Chi takes up to 10-20 years. The ultimate stage of Tai Chi is to use it in combat. A lot of Wing Chun practitioners end up taking Tai chi as well.
TheSenseofTouch 3 years ago
@TheSenseofTouch not the case thought all chinese martial arts decend from same lineage of traditional wresling and evolved based on weapon motions and personal experimentations with physics. wing chun is distan relative closer to karate bak mei,southern mantis, fukien white crane. while tai chi shows a mix of both northern(look at some long fists and in ur mind replace the punch with a palm push motion) and southern styles since its along th border
kaindrg 1 year ago
search henry sue kung fu for real south mantis
spmmantisboy 4 years ago
spmmantisboy i have actualy heard a few good things about your style from a student at my school. And im aware of the history of it. Although i havent seen any similarities myself (keep in mind i have only been able to see youtube videos of it) it dose look interesting although what i saw looked more like choy lay fut than ving tsun another very effective style =)
mardukalpha 4 years ago
also mantis has the same focus on controlling ventre and they also do not stop moving forward once they start. short range very powerful machinegun like strikes. looks like wu chan lam has better foundation in his kung fu. you see he maintains his footwork throughout bout. Also i have never seen a mantis guy bend over like that and jump around. very ammateur.
spmmantisboy 4 years ago
what style of mantis is this supposed to be? Are they bothe beginners? Reason i ask is i practice southern mantis, and it does not look anything like what i do.
spmmantisboy 4 years ago
ving tsun is for CAT FIGHTS!
shardakar 4 years ago
what the hell. im getting really sick of people commenting on vt and being negative about it. most people havent even gotten into any real fights. i you did you would instinctively know what works..all styles work you have to work it
opticannon 4 years ago
Yeah the VT student is bigger yeah its nothing impressive but it shows that even with that little bit of training the style works. The mantis stylist is geting hit he trys punching wu back but he cant because the center is being controled. His punches dont look very good at all but it would be no differnt if it was say a hook punch the point is if you make it there first and as long as your punches are effective theres little your opponant can do.
mardukalpha 5 years ago
Dont forget the fact that the VT guys will not stop going forward once they start.....thats a big part of what makes VT concepts so effective.
2Halifaxion2 4 years ago
And how is it exactly? this is on youtube for historical refernce and to display a new practitioners abilty in controling his opponant. THREE WEEKS TRAINING .
mardukalpha 5 years ago
again rather than searching for evidence of its effectiveness from the resualts of "some fight" which can be variable to many circomstances eg a fighter could be sick and not at 100% you would be better off the learn about the system yourself. Notice i said LEARN not get taught which is what big orginasations do and nothing more.
mardukalpha 5 years ago
If this is not a demo of any skill why put it on youtube, don't get mad when people call things like it is.
snakeeyes007 5 years ago
During the september 11 attacts though i question the offical story. Only one camera in the whole of new york got the first plane on film thats the murday brothers french journalist who were doing a story on firemen by a complete accident they got the first attack on film. So if they didnt get it on film would that mean that the first attack didnt happen just because it wasnt recorded?
mardukalpha 5 years ago
Maruosorllius there isnt any because ving tsun is for street fights not organised fights. If you see it in a organised fight its not being used effectively because the practitioner isnt going to want to hurt his opponant his life in not in imidiat danger.
mardukalpha 5 years ago
Has anyone actually seen a clip of a GOOD example of Ving Tsun or Wing Chun being used effectivly in a fight? Please send me a link if you have...
marcusorilius 5 years ago
Did you even bother reading the facts about this fight before mouthing off?? At the time of this fight neither student of either style had even 2 mounths experience in training EITHER STYLE.
OF COURSE THEY'D GET RAPED BY A BOXER WITH 6 MONTHS TRAINING!
Why on earth would a boxer be attacking ving tsun anyway? Anybody who actualy knows a fair bit about proper ving tsun will know they have alot in commem yet are fundamentaly differnt.
mardukalpha 5 years ago
Pathetic! Anyone with 6 months of boxing experience would rape these guys!
jrocinsane 5 years ago
rape what are you on i have training in both boxing and wing chun and you talk shit and no nothing about either its not the style but the person
eel4q2 4 years ago
LOL this wasnt filmed by him as far as i know.
He "borrowed" a copy from wong shun leung then claimed that he'd "lost it". Theres probably a whole bunch of other stuff hidden away by the lee's. Probably gives them more material for more doco's/special featurets which = more royaltys.
mardukalpha 5 years ago
This fight was filmed by Bruce Lee. It appears in the documentary available in the extras of ENTER THE DRAGON DVD.
Bangled 5 years ago
When i say real fight i dont mean streetfight i just mean that these guys are friends and are just demonstrating techniuqe. The point of this spar is to get your opponant off balance nothing more. BTW wu chan lam is the guy in the black pants.
mardukalpha 5 years ago
A real fight came after this one with bruce lee and some other dude and they realy did want to hurt eachother unfortunatly neither bruce's family or william chaung want to release that footage so this is all i had to post. Its still no more impressive than a boxing bout anyway from my understanding. Plus thought bruce wins he gets pretty worked over =P
mardukalpha 5 years ago
Is that so peckerwood78 so um.. where are the videos of you fighting in a full contact no protection spar?
mardukalpha 5 years ago
huh? what are you on dude lol
Anyway i like the video in your favorites =]
mardukalpha 5 years ago
wow that was a big arguement
Shaolen 5 years ago
ha ha ha .. Mere Earthlings .
cinnabarpalm 5 years ago
yep
mardukalpha 5 years ago
isn't billl dowding the WSL lineage teacher in newcastle?
holyevil 5 years ago
teen fight lol?
Wong shun leung started serious beimo 6 mounths after his introduction to ving tsun he was 17. :D
mardukalpha 5 years ago
Hey what is this?. Shouldn't we discuss about the Vid posted. blahblah12367, This was a teen fight as Beimo had levels, i mean someone like Gongsau Wong faught the hard ones against masters and the best of each style. Sifu Hawkins Cheung owns alot of those fights in his site, but I think you must buy it.
SifuVT 5 years ago
lol mate your not intelligent for knowing a word as commen as parody shit rich guys like you are arseholes
mardukalpha 5 years ago
Who cares if I havent posted videos. Is posting videos now the hallmark of martial expertise or something? Ha I bet you wish it was! I don't want to talk ving tsun concepts with narrow minded cultish prats with low Iqs. I 'll stick to practice instead thanks. Which is why this conversation is over. Have a nice life.
blahblah12367 5 years ago
No Im not stalking you - I study Wing Chun (not Leung Ting) and have been unfortunate to find your stupid little comments across youtube videos and on other forums. They genuinely make me angry.
blahblah12367 5 years ago
HOLYFUK BLAH, HAVENT I SEEN YOUR DUMBASS BEFORE?
You've been talking shit about wing chun all over youtube. Seriously what the fuk is your problem, do you get raped in th ass everyday by a wing chun practitioner?, is that why you hate wing chun?
miketite 5 years ago
As for how many "beimo" i have been in none.
How long have i trained for? 8 mounths of 10 hours a day training under bill dowding. How long have i been studying vingtsun theory every day since 2002.
mardukalpha 5 years ago
Marduk - you are more sad. Just reading what you actually think will tell anyone that. You also obviously dont understand what parody and irony are.
I couldnt care less if someone ive never met called me a psycho based on a comment that was actually parodying morons like you (look it up in the dictionary again). Maybe that gives you a clue as to what people think you are when they read your expert opinions.
blahblah12367 5 years ago
Its quite clear that you are from leung tings sect of ving tsun since i have NEVER publicly critisesed any other style of fighting EVER! Just leung tings wing tsun joke! And if your stupid enough to call me a zelot for being in a "ving tsun cult" when im not yet fork out $300 US an hour or whatever ridiculas amout it is to learn broke ving tsun from a man who claims to have been tought more from ip man than others then you my friend are not in a position to do so.
mardukalpha 5 years ago
Tell me realy whats more sad?
a) Me who likes to "TALK" about ving tsun concepts or
b) A guy who aparently is stalking me knows somhow i havent learned chi sau yet (not that it matters about disscussing the conscepts of it) and has a few comments posted on his profile NOT MADE BY ME talking about what a phychopathic arsehole he is and that he's a bully? Your the keybord warrior pal. You havent posted any videos just made retarded abusive comments.
mardukalpha 5 years ago
NO i assumed such because you critisesed a stand up fighting system about not having ground fighting you leung ting fool.
mardukalpha 5 years ago
You dont get do you? Because I dont like you or your comments you assume Im a ground fighter. Id love to see the world throguh your eyes - people that are nice to me must be traditional ving tsun, people that arent are probably BJJ. Do you think that the last car that splashed you was secretly driven by a BJJ practioner or the last girl that smiled at you (not sure that would happen) was an original Yip Man student. Theres a world outisde you little martial arts debate forums.
blahblah12367 5 years ago
How long have you been studying wing chun to think you can correct other schools and lineages youve never trained under?
How long have you been teaching? How many beimos have you engaged in? How many fights? In other words what puts you in the position to PUBLICLY criticise other lineages over the internet. Does your teacher know you are doing it?
blahblah12367 5 years ago
Why am I a hypocrite? The only reason im posting here is to rip it out of plonkers like u. You actually believe that you can correct people from different schools and your comments are meaningful. So who's more stupid?
Ive plenty of mates thank you - there just not cyber geeks obssessed with TALKING about wing chun.
blahblah12367 5 years ago
I critise ving tsun when its not correct yes why shouldent i? I know what its ment to look like. Just becuase you may have training in some shity ving tsun school dosent make you an expert smart arse. I ALWAYS QUESTION dont you fucking dare make assumptions about me douchbag.
mardukalpha 5 years ago
Mate you still didnt make any sensible posts just persional attacks. It seems clear to me that just because you cant fight the logic of my opinians you come out with defimation. You need a life pal like the comments on your profile sudgest your a very sad little man. Get over YOUR ego. And you telling me to go to a cult is pure hilatiry since you seem to take your groundfighting teachings as doctorin and come out to bash other styles.
mardukalpha 5 years ago
Mate who the fuck are you?
Your such a hypocrite comming on here. I never did any such thing your obviously stupid please pissoff.
Mate just look at your profile and the comments that are on it its clear you dont have any friends.
mardukalpha 5 years ago
Yes you are pretending to be somehting - your pretending to be an expert able to criticise other schools left right and centre. Im fed up of seeing your posts popping up telling this or that person what they should be doing. We dont need morons like you in the martial arts who are unable to think independently for themselves and really think their style has all the magical answers. You should find a cult to join instead - youd be good at that. By the way do actually train at all?
blahblah12367 5 years ago
Everyone has an ego and from the crap that you post on the net youve got a pretty big one. My name is not Nick, Im not WSL lineage, im just someone unfortunate enough to have read your moronic comments. My comments here up until now have not been serious and have been meant as a parody of the internet experts that post here. You were my principal inspiration.
blahblah12367 5 years ago
well i dont know who you are nick *cough* but your still an idiot. Also what are you calling impure and incorect ving tsun? Im from barry lee's lineage fool.
Also im not pretending to be anything im just sharing my opinian and constantly thinking about fighting. Seems like you have an ego pal. Why dont you talk about why this is bad?
mardukalpha 5 years ago
No I just dont like impure incorrect VING TSUN. thats why i post my opinion on wing chun all over youtube and pretend to be an expert. I criticise small and irrelevant details even though I havent started chi sau yet. If I was parodying someone here - do you know what that means mardukalpha - who do you think that would be??
blahblah12367 5 years ago
You realy are stupid arent you?.
mardukalpha 5 years ago
Very poor Wing chun. Very little or no ground work. Hopping around. No power in punches. Both will be demolished in a real street fight.
blahblah12367 5 years ago
Not to mention incorrect mantis. No use of the 12 verbal fromula. Hook grapple ,pluck is the bread and butter of mantis. No ging, and the hops are incorrect. In my opinion they're both begginers.
cfG21 5 years ago
mardukalpha said it right. It's just a spar, not serious Beimo fight. Thank you for that my friend.
SifuVT 5 years ago
Nice to see some of the old archive footage showing the direct nature of Wing Chun
tjwingchun 5 years ago