@kaitopenguin Well they didn't in this one, you saw when Cloud said they better get some sleep and Tifa shook her head, you get that version when you dont use Tifa in your party often. When you do use her often, the conversation is a little different.
I'm sure that Cloud said something after what Tifa said "let me have some moment"... Anyway, Cloud agrees and said "....yeah.... this will be the only time where we can be alone together..." XD
Er, was this that controversial scene Square Enix said (when translated into Japanese) held a risque line and fade-to-black implication of Cloud and Tifa getting intimate?
if bioware made this game , this would be the part where tifa takes off her top lol
seriously though, i would have like to seen more of a focus on the relationship part of the game. what they put in the game was entertaining but it didnt really change anything in terms of story.
@pickylittlegirl Basically because you're trying to force my to like Cloti when I know there is no romance between them, is why I will not debate with someone like you. You cannot force a belief down anyones fucking throat, get over yourself. I know that Z/A is a past canon, along with Cloud's CRUSH for Tifa. And I don't go trusting GOOGLE for my information. Are you fucking kidding me? That alone shows me you are un-educated in this situation. I have the official BOOKS. Google vs
@Danzaaii Official Statements? Um. That's not a hard one. I have no reason to stay quiet. You obviously don't know who I am. Hi. I'm Sky. Sky Soldja. One of the hardest, most dedicate Cloud/Aerith fans you will ever come across. If you think you've got one over on me, little girl, you're dead wrong. Even the smartest Cloti knows that Cloud did love Aerith even at one point, so. You're beat. I think we know who dominates in this debate.
@pickylittlegirl Okay, you need to relax. Oh, because YOU'RE the fan that makes them canon? No. Try again, sweetie. Your word is not God. Nomura's is. And yes, Cloud was called Aerith's lover. Please read Case of the Lifestream. No wait, you won't because it'll only hurt your chances of a "Cloti romance". And, the quote comes from the BIO of Cloud in Ultimania. Once again, death does not matter in the world of FF. If Cloud is still carrying out romantic feelings for Aerith, even two years after
@Danzaaii she is dead, obviously death is no obstacle. FF World =/= Real world. Hate to burst your bubble. And Case of Tifa only proved that Cloud and Tifa are incompatible. Following the new Case of Tifa was a quote by Nojima that even without Geostigma and Sephiroth, things would still be rocky for Cloud and Tifa and things would of went better with Aerith. Zack and Aerith are a PAST canon, once again, AS OFFICIALLY STATED MORE THAN ONCE. You're not going to get past the official word, sorry.
@Danzaaii Maybe you need to read up on the new Ultimanias, Guides, and Case's because you're lacking much knowledge, my friend. You're almost not worth debating with anymore, sorry to say, because you can't accept the truth and it's quite irritating.
@pickylittlegirl Okay, you need to relax because you're getting heated. Oh, because YOU'RE a fan that automatically means they are canon? Try again, babe. I'm not the clerith to fuck with. I can get rabid, but I'll contain. Yes, Cloud was called Aerith's lover. Please read the new Case of the Lifestream books. Um, Case of Tifa only proved that Cloud and Tifa were more incompatible and cannot sustain a healthy relationship because ALL THEY DID WAS FIGHT. And no, the reason I don't like Z/A is
@pickylittlegirl I don't dislike you, but you sure do like to think you know everything that I know and that does annoy me. I've played Final Fantasy 1-13 (not 14 yet, I was always a bit hesitant to play online ones) including Crisis Core, Before Crisis, etc., and you cannot force me into believe Cloti is cannon because it isn't. If Clerith didn't have a fighting chance at being the canon couple, it wouldn't have as much evidence and proof as it does. Cloud being named Aerith's lover? Oh please,
@Danzaaii don't even discard that. And don't use the Zack argument because that TOO has been proved that Aerith no longer loves Zack. Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know walking under a door meant "tru luvz foreva" between two people. Um. No. Not even. I don't find Zack/Aerith cute at all, I used to ship them until fans like yourself pressed them down my throat. Nomura called Z/A's relationship "platonic" and "juvenile". Oh, and he also said Aerith has MOVED ON and loves Cloud (once again, see CoL).
@Danzaaii And, yeah, about the "leaving with Zack" comment, um, they're both leaving to the lifestream. That doesn't mean they love one another. In the lifestream, Aerith even turned down Zack... so.. um. Z/A and C/T are past canon, if C/T has any point of being canon at all. Actually, SE has shown us that C/T is an optional couple. And, ah, no, Cloud's reason for fighting is to "unfreeze her smile" and who's smile is he talking about? Aerith's. I'll post the quote for you,
@pickylittlegirl Oh, man. We're on this whole poor Cloti "proof" thing again? Come on. Sex? The next morning, they were still sitting there, Cloud's arms crossed and Tifa barely on his shoulder. You'd think at least they'd be lying down. But it gets better. It's out of Cloud's character. Sex is not on his mind. Aerith, Sephiroth, and the end of the world are. He wouldn't just nail Tifa on some pointy rocks. Caring for someone doesn't mean you love them romantically, letting them sleep on your
@ohfuckchaos shoulder, fully clothed, doesn't mean you had sex with them the night before. How is Cloud going to lose his beloved to the hands of Sephiroth one night, and then go have sex with Tifa the next? Sorry, sweetie, but you're in the wrong. If you really try to use that as "evidence" anymore, it only shows you are desperate for it. There is more than enough evidence even without SE /stating/ that there was no sex implied to show NO SEX WAS IMPLIED. Ahem. That is all.
@pickylittlegirl How am I making things up? Here you go, "....according to Tifa's affection rating with Cloud, the event of 'dialogues exchanged between them from dusk to dawn' will be different" and wrong, they're still not canon. In the brand CoW, Cloud was confirmed as Aerith's lover, so there is still room to decide. And don't use the "Tifa was called koibito, too" because Nomura was speaking of dimensions, not roles. And that last quote you said? Without using words. Yes. You have to catch
@Danzaaii the subtle things, such as Cloud using the silent eclipse, which could show he has NO WORDS TO SAY TO HER or that he is annoyed. It's been used in the games before and after to show annoyance, though. The title of this scene is "Understanding", by the way. Not "Love Under The Stars", not "Sex", it's "Understanding". Once again, nothing after these CHANGEABLE scenes show that they had sex. And why would I hate on you? I have no reason to.
@pickylittlegirl Shall I break out the quotes FOR you or are you just being stubborn and won't accept the truth? Nomura stated depending on the affection level with Tifa, the CONVERSATIONS THROUGH OUT THE NIGHT will be different. Sorry to burst your bubble. Besides, nothing through Reminiscence or AC or afterward highlights that moment. Their actions/after stories even show it. And no, the high affection got a different conversation ;) Too bad.
@pickylittlegirl Actually, they don;t have sex. How many times does Nomura have to say? If you read the Ultimania, you will have also read that Nomura states all they did was have an exchange of words, and depending on the affection level, the words will be different. The. Words. Not sex. Optional scenes do NOT get big moments. Sorry to disappoint you, but even you should know thats WAY too out of character for both of them. It doesn't add up.
For the ones asking why this scene is different: This is the "Low" version. The "High" version is the one containing the "risque" dialogue where they are said "to confirm that their romantic feelings match without using words." (This evidently the canon version.)
thats the low affection szene. butt in the high affection szene its almost certain that they had sex. and square made the high affection szene even canon.
They didnt have sex lolololol. This was an optional dependinng if youre nice to Tifa. Optional affection levels dont get special scenes, specially Tifa secks. roflrofl. Plus she expresses her feelings and he uses the silence eclipse "...." which means annoyance or aggravation. But it is a cute friend scene!
No, they got rid of it because it was too strong and unintended. They're not suppose to have sex, ever. There's two different scenes to this, optional scene's don't get big moments.
omfg just looking at my old comments from my old account pickylittlegirl OMG OMG I'M SO FUNNAY! cloti rules :)
kaitopenguin 2 months ago
3:36 they did it.
CBear47 5 months ago
I wonder how much money they spend on gas for the highwind for it to hover all night
Katbeanz 6 months ago
Omg cloud and tifa banged each other on rocks? 0.0 haha! 10 points for cloud/Tifa! Aerith sucks. She can go suck it. Aerith Is an old lady. :P
kaitopenguin 6 months ago
@kaitopenguin Well they didn't in this one, you saw when Cloud said they better get some sleep and Tifa shook her head, you get that version when you dont use Tifa in your party often. When you do use her often, the conversation is a little different.
HiroUey 6 months ago
hehehe end of disc 2 !!
VNtinos 7 months ago
Errr...There was different dialog in my game. Is this a different version or something? >.> *clueless*
PikaBaka101 8 months ago
This is my favorite part on ff vii.
AznBlade23 10 months ago 2
I'm sure that Cloud said something after what Tifa said "let me have some moment"... Anyway, Cloud agrees and said "....yeah.... this will be the only time where we can be alone together..." XD
CLOTI! HECK YEAH! xD
benteunerz36 11 months ago 5
@benteunerz36
Good you understand that it's all about Cloud and Tifa :3
kaitopenguin 6 months ago
@benteunerz36 Cloud wants some unnnf
kaitopenguin 2 months ago
Hah the two people debating bout Cloti and Clerith are so funny! Ah its so fun seeing people fight. U go pickylittlegirl!
Kingdomhearts5197 11 months ago
i think the 2 geeks having the 'mass debate' below really should get a life. its a game for fucks sake, dont take it so seriously.
Stevo6483 11 months ago
Er, was this that controversial scene Square Enix said (when translated into Japanese) held a risque line and fade-to-black implication of Cloud and Tifa getting intimate?
jim0van0song 11 months ago
if bioware made this game , this would be the part where tifa takes off her top lol
seriously though, i would have like to seen more of a focus on the relationship part of the game. what they put in the game was entertaining but it didnt really change anything in terms of story.
barqueWorks 1 year ago
8:59 This is the garden shed, this is your home. Err, wait, wrong game lol
kamikaze9699 1 year ago
@pickylittlegirl Basically because you're trying to force my to like Cloti when I know there is no romance between them, is why I will not debate with someone like you. You cannot force a belief down anyones fucking throat, get over yourself. I know that Z/A is a past canon, along with Cloud's CRUSH for Tifa. And I don't go trusting GOOGLE for my information. Are you fucking kidding me? That alone shows me you are un-educated in this situation. I have the official BOOKS. Google vs
Danzaaii 1 year ago
@Danzaaii Official Statements? Um. That's not a hard one. I have no reason to stay quiet. You obviously don't know who I am. Hi. I'm Sky. Sky Soldja. One of the hardest, most dedicate Cloud/Aerith fans you will ever come across. If you think you've got one over on me, little girl, you're dead wrong. Even the smartest Cloti knows that Cloud did love Aerith even at one point, so. You're beat. I think we know who dominates in this debate.
Danzaaii 1 year ago
@pickylittlegirl Okay, you need to relax. Oh, because YOU'RE the fan that makes them canon? No. Try again, sweetie. Your word is not God. Nomura's is. And yes, Cloud was called Aerith's lover. Please read Case of the Lifestream. No wait, you won't because it'll only hurt your chances of a "Cloti romance". And, the quote comes from the BIO of Cloud in Ultimania. Once again, death does not matter in the world of FF. If Cloud is still carrying out romantic feelings for Aerith, even two years after
Danzaaii 1 year ago
@Danzaaii she is dead, obviously death is no obstacle. FF World =/= Real world. Hate to burst your bubble. And Case of Tifa only proved that Cloud and Tifa are incompatible. Following the new Case of Tifa was a quote by Nojima that even without Geostigma and Sephiroth, things would still be rocky for Cloud and Tifa and things would of went better with Aerith. Zack and Aerith are a PAST canon, once again, AS OFFICIALLY STATED MORE THAN ONCE. You're not going to get past the official word, sorry.
Danzaaii 1 year ago
@Danzaaii Maybe you need to read up on the new Ultimanias, Guides, and Case's because you're lacking much knowledge, my friend. You're almost not worth debating with anymore, sorry to say, because you can't accept the truth and it's quite irritating.
Danzaaii 1 year ago
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@pickylittlegirl Okay, you need to relax because you're getting heated. Oh, because YOU'RE a fan that automatically means they are canon? Try again, babe. I'm not the clerith to fuck with. I can get rabid, but I'll contain. Yes, Cloud was called Aerith's lover. Please read the new Case of the Lifestream books. Um, Case of Tifa only proved that Cloud and Tifa were more incompatible and cannot sustain a healthy relationship because ALL THEY DID WAS FIGHT. And no, the reason I don't like Z/A is
Danzaaii 1 year ago
@pickylittlegirl I don't dislike you, but you sure do like to think you know everything that I know and that does annoy me. I've played Final Fantasy 1-13 (not 14 yet, I was always a bit hesitant to play online ones) including Crisis Core, Before Crisis, etc., and you cannot force me into believe Cloti is cannon because it isn't. If Clerith didn't have a fighting chance at being the canon couple, it wouldn't have as much evidence and proof as it does. Cloud being named Aerith's lover? Oh please,
Danzaaii 1 year ago
@Danzaaii don't even discard that. And don't use the Zack argument because that TOO has been proved that Aerith no longer loves Zack. Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know walking under a door meant "tru luvz foreva" between two people. Um. No. Not even. I don't find Zack/Aerith cute at all, I used to ship them until fans like yourself pressed them down my throat. Nomura called Z/A's relationship "platonic" and "juvenile". Oh, and he also said Aerith has MOVED ON and loves Cloud (once again, see CoL).
Danzaaii 1 year ago
@Danzaaii And, yeah, about the "leaving with Zack" comment, um, they're both leaving to the lifestream. That doesn't mean they love one another. In the lifestream, Aerith even turned down Zack... so.. um. Z/A and C/T are past canon, if C/T has any point of being canon at all. Actually, SE has shown us that C/T is an optional couple. And, ah, no, Cloud's reason for fighting is to "unfreeze her smile" and who's smile is he talking about? Aerith's. I'll post the quote for you,
Danzaaii 1 year ago
@Danzaaii Cloud: "Even so, I have to fight. So, I can leave my past behind me. So I can be myself. And above all--- to unfreeze her smile."
Danzaaii 1 year ago
@pickylittlegirl Oh, man. We're on this whole poor Cloti "proof" thing again? Come on. Sex? The next morning, they were still sitting there, Cloud's arms crossed and Tifa barely on his shoulder. You'd think at least they'd be lying down. But it gets better. It's out of Cloud's character. Sex is not on his mind. Aerith, Sephiroth, and the end of the world are. He wouldn't just nail Tifa on some pointy rocks. Caring for someone doesn't mean you love them romantically, letting them sleep on your
ohfuckchaos 1 year ago
@ohfuckchaos shoulder, fully clothed, doesn't mean you had sex with them the night before. How is Cloud going to lose his beloved to the hands of Sephiroth one night, and then go have sex with Tifa the next? Sorry, sweetie, but you're in the wrong. If you really try to use that as "evidence" anymore, it only shows you are desperate for it. There is more than enough evidence even without SE /stating/ that there was no sex implied to show NO SEX WAS IMPLIED. Ahem. That is all.
ohfuckchaos 1 year ago
@pickylittlegirl How am I making things up? Here you go, "....according to Tifa's affection rating with Cloud, the event of 'dialogues exchanged between them from dusk to dawn' will be different" and wrong, they're still not canon. In the brand CoW, Cloud was confirmed as Aerith's lover, so there is still room to decide. And don't use the "Tifa was called koibito, too" because Nomura was speaking of dimensions, not roles. And that last quote you said? Without using words. Yes. You have to catch
Danzaaii 1 year ago
@Danzaaii the subtle things, such as Cloud using the silent eclipse, which could show he has NO WORDS TO SAY TO HER or that he is annoyed. It's been used in the games before and after to show annoyance, though. The title of this scene is "Understanding", by the way. Not "Love Under The Stars", not "Sex", it's "Understanding". Once again, nothing after these CHANGEABLE scenes show that they had sex. And why would I hate on you? I have no reason to.
Danzaaii 1 year ago
@pickylittlegirl Shall I break out the quotes FOR you or are you just being stubborn and won't accept the truth? Nomura stated depending on the affection level with Tifa, the CONVERSATIONS THROUGH OUT THE NIGHT will be different. Sorry to burst your bubble. Besides, nothing through Reminiscence or AC or afterward highlights that moment. Their actions/after stories even show it. And no, the high affection got a different conversation ;) Too bad.
Danzaaii 1 year ago
@pickylittlegirl Actually, they don;t have sex. How many times does Nomura have to say? If you read the Ultimania, you will have also read that Nomura states all they did was have an exchange of words, and depending on the affection level, the words will be different. The. Words. Not sex. Optional scenes do NOT get big moments. Sorry to disappoint you, but even you should know thats WAY too out of character for both of them. It doesn't add up.
Danzaaii 1 year ago
For the ones asking why this scene is different: This is the "Low" version. The "High" version is the one containing the "risque" dialogue where they are said "to confirm that their romantic feelings match without using words." (This evidently the canon version.)
RecalcitrantFunksaur 1 year ago
@RecalcitrantFunksaur what do you mean where could i watch that?
bingawitot 1 year ago
thats the low affection szene. butt in the high affection szene its almost certain that they had sex. and square made the high affection szene even canon.
raalw 1 year ago
I haven't watched the high affection scene under the high wind with Tifa? did somebody upload it in youtube? I want to watch it. thanks
Redbutterflylucille 1 year ago
THIS IS EPIC!
strife93 2 years ago 4
tifa said diffrent things on mine???
Sloppygegger 3 years ago 6
yea on mine too...made it seemed like something actually happened
wildfyah 2 years ago
They didnt have sex lolololol. This was an optional dependinng if youre nice to Tifa. Optional affection levels dont get special scenes, specially Tifa secks. roflrofl. Plus she expresses her feelings and he uses the silence eclipse "...." which means annoyance or aggravation. But it is a cute friend scene!
Danzaaii 3 years ago 2
i read somewhere that there was supposed to be a sex scene between them but they didnt bother...i see where it would fit in XD lol @ tifa's reaction
wildfyah 2 years ago
No, they got rid of it because it was too strong and unintended. They're not suppose to have sex, ever. There's two different scenes to this, optional scene's don't get big moments.
Danzaaii 2 years ago
Aww, even though I'm not a fan of Cloti, that scene is too cute. Yay snuggly cuteness!
CaptainMuggie 3 years ago 9
Yeah :) Even if you don't like Cloti, it's a cute friends scene...*feels warm and fuzzy*
queenofamerica 3 years ago 13