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  • OMG i came out 4 years ago my mom still hates me...sigh

  • How did you tell your twin brother? Did he already know?

  • @PreppyPoser1 Why the fuck are you here? Do you honestly think one comment is really going to chance someone's whole perspective on life? You're sad as fuck dude.

  • @HartzProductions

    I can't help but being so proud of you my friend! The world you will be

    "out" in is a far less hostile place than that which I came out in as a boy!

    When I was not yet 18, I met and fell in love with a boy named Bobby

    Griffith(Prayers for Bobby). His family at the time was dogmatically

    religious, and the pain of the closet was unbearable for him. He took

    his own life in 1983!

  • @HartzProductions Thankfully that was a long time ago and much has changed. Things are happening for LGBT people today, the likes of which Bobby and I could never conceive! We're not quite there yet, but full inclusion is within sight! It thrills me to know that you will be able to lead an authentic life as a gay man, and will even likely be able to marry the person whom you love, if you so choose! Yeah!!!! May G-D Bless You! Blaine
  • i know you posted this long time ago, but i just saw it. i am so proud of you. be proud of being who you are. it was so hard for me too. i love you

  • vote libertarian

  • thanks for that story, i am so sorry your dads reaction was not as smooth as it could have been.

    George

    Aspen, Colorado

    p.s you are very good looking. xx

  • have you have sex with another man

  • You are not a "late bloomer". You came out when you were ready and at the appropriate time FOR YOU. I came out at 19. It was very hard and my parents were not supportive. That was 30 years ago. My mother is now a long-time member of PLAG and my father regularly writes letters to his congress members demanding them to advance equality. They are both completely supportive and have been for many years. No one, ultimately, regrets coming out. We must all do so. I'm so proud of you.

  • This is very similar to how it was with me and my mom when I told her I am bi. The awkwardness and all. We talk but it's never been the same.

  • are u and ur dad talking again?

  • really? then your better than him, yuo dont deserve that kind of treatment.

  • @HartzProductions I'm so sorry...

  • Thanks for this, Michael. It was lovely.

  • My dads the only person that's close to me that I'm not out to yet..... And I am CLUELESS as to what I should do.... Advice please??

  • Michael was really open with this...I would have been balling my eyes out telling this story.

    You are his son...period. Even if you are sexing a tree...you are his son.

  • My coming out was wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more intense lol message me if you want to kno ;)

  • Awe:(

    That's so sad! But I'm so glad to see a smile on your face throughout the video! You're awesome!

    Rockon~

    Love,

    Yours Truly

  • This was a great video to put back up again. Parents have certain hopes and expectations for us and when we don't meet those, the fear (or actual) rejection can just flatten us. (In my case I am a very overweight woman and my dad is super anti-fat). You have so much courage for coming out to your dad and then reaching over to hug him. Class act, fella. Could you talk to my dad about my fat, pls? (j/k)

  • I tought 16 was late, I told my friends i was gay at 14-15. Then I told my sister who told my step-mom a few months later. Which then told my dad who picked me up the morning later and he's like "Can I ask you something?" Im Like "No" (lol)

    He said do you like girls? I said Not in the way you do. And then soo on he started asking questions. Haven't seen him much science then.

  • Told him when I was 16 and since not science lol

  • 16?!?! I'm 23 (today actually) and still waiting to. 3 people down. 2 of which are no longer speaking to me. I'm thinking it wont go well with the rest.

  • 4 hours ago you responded at 3 am? lol oh well...its just I felt somone had to know. So i told my friends and sister so i can hang out with them and stay up late in there rooms without them being weird about it. But more people found out and it is a bit akwerd but I'll get use to it. Also 23 today? Happy birthday? lol

  • Why do you care when I responded and why would you tell people? It's called insomnia. Also I can't tell if you're being mean to me or not through your response. Sarcasm doesn't translate well through text. "But more people found out and it is a bit akwerd but I'll get use to it." Does that mean more people found out about you or more people found out I responded to something you wrote at 3 AM. It's the internet, it doesn't sleep. And yes it is my birthday today.

  • Oh..sorry I didn't intend it to be rude in anyway. And i was just saying that you responded at 3 am as in a joke but i guess i worded it wrongly.

  • why aren't u a partner?

  • God Bless you my friend....you are a blessing to so many!!!

  • i respect you a lot more.

  • i want to tell my mom and slowly my familly but......idk im worryed cuz' my familly isent known for its understanding...more like its toughness...

  • i'm coming out to my dad tonight

  • good luck! :D

    So... how did it go?

  • It went really really well. I was incredibly surprised, and I feel like I'm on top of the world right now :)

  • Woo hoo! :D Grats man.

  • iam so glad for you

  • i am very proud of you! welcome to the LGBTQ family! =]

  • WHATS LGTBTQ???

  • Lesbian Gay Bisexual Trangender Queer/Questioning....

  • @CrystalLovesFP LGBTQ: Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transsexual Queer/Questioning

  • How'd it go?

  • @qbambina06 Hopefully he rapes, shoots you, beats you to a pulp and burns the remains.

  • I'm sorry that things didn't really go the way you planned, hope everything worked out=)

    it's good that you except yourself, that's always step one.

  • thats really sad.

  • I'm so sorry that your father was upset when you came out. If someday I have a son or daughter who is gay, I will make sure that they know that they can tell me with absolutely no worry that I will be upset.

  • I was born and raised a christian and I'm a lesbian and I don't want to tell my mom, cause she makes comments like, "Homosexuality is a perversion" and many, many other nasty things all the time.

    And I'm sure my mother would do the same thing you're dad did.

    Eccept she would NEVER speak to me again.

  • you should sit your mom down at wat the movie Prayers for Bobby with her. That may give her a subtle clue that your a lesbain. Plus it might just show her that its not the end of the world like Marry Griffith felt.

  • wow! very interesting, indeed!

  • "I'm not exactly straight"... I love it. x)

    Beautiful story.

  • ilovedanenglad, how could you say something like that? its horrable...

  • thanks for posting this

  • 0:58

    we-ooo-we---o

  • inspiritional

  • what a terrible dad. this is why i dont wanna tell me parents.

  • I understand! The way I see it, is that it's another chapter in the book of each of our lives. Hard times, but as with all things in life, the good with the bad.

  • i saw this link on your 5ag video and i was hanging on your every word. my cousin also came out a while ago and it took my aunt and uncle about 5 years, but they came around. just have patience. i subscribed as well :)

  • Thanks for sharing. <3

  • aww, I feel really bad for you.

    you dad sounds like a douchebag.

  • Thanks for sharing, it means a lot. And your relationship with your dad will get lots better. And always remember that there are hundreds of us online to love and support you.

    Love!

  • You are truly awesome.

  • very personal... intimate really

    u make us proud

  • You are the best friend I ever had in school! You will always be special to me!!

    Misti Giddings (Rodriguez)

  • Thank you for sharing.  Very touching.

  • Very personal and touching. Thank you for sharing.

  • That is so sad

  • your so cute

  • Polish people have to be welcoming and nice on Xmas eve, it's part of the culture, so I came out to my folks the day before xmas. They forced me actually by coming to visit on christmas, I was not going to celebrate the holiday without my boyfriend. hahaha. It was wierd but over time they came around. living 3000 miles apart helps too.

    Sorry It went like it did for you, I send you hugs brother, coming out stories that don't go super well make me a little sad.

  • I hope things are getting better with your dad. You're right, just give him some time and he'll get used to it. At least you have your friends to support you. ^_^

  • <3<3<3<3 4 Michael <3<3<3<3

  • I'm so sorry that went down like it did. I only came out 4 years ago and have still not come out to my parents for fear of exactly what you experienced.

    I hope things get better for you and your dad.

  • My mom and I did not talk for a long time after I came out to her. That seems to be common.

  • *huuuuuuuuuuug* from one asian to another =DD

    i hope your realationship between you and your father gets better and better :]

    we love you so much michael!

  • aww, big hug from me.

    I would imagine that if I were gay and i was about to come out to my parents, i would be just like you were before you told your dad. my mom is really religious and she's against gays, and i'm not really sure how my dad feels about it. it would be so scary. mom mom would probably disown me. good thing i'm not gay. lol.

  • <3 :)

  • Thanks for sharing. Really.

  • I don't know why, but I love you. XD

  • ((Hugs))

    How is your relationship with your dad now?

  • aww, hugs.

    i'm glad you are who you are. i wish we knew each other. you're so brave and strong... telling such a big secret to your parents is terrifying, and you did it! it's really more amazing than it sounds. i can't even cry in front of my parents anymore, because it's like this big, dark secret that i sometimes get sad. hahah. i admire you, michael hartz.

  • aww... i love you, babe.

    if i came out (just "if" because I'm not a lesbian) i know my mom would not react well because she doesn't handle situations well. she would actually get mad at me, probably. i don't really think my dad would care or my step-dad would care. my step-dad would be like "That's fine." and my dad would just be like, "Whatever." because homosexuality isn't a big deal to them. I think it should be the same way with most people. If my child came out to me, I would accept it.

  • i hope your dad is handling it better now. this makes me want to hug you!

  • Bravo Michael. I'm curious, you have an identical twin brother. Was it easier to tell him since you already had a special bond? I appreciate you sharing this very much.

    Hugz!

    ~Calvin~

  • I knew my dad was going to be a tough one to tell as well. It's difficult when you know they aren't going to handle it well. It's that awful cycle of love, you want to tell them because you love them but you don't want to hurt their feelings or their pride for the very same reason.

  • You are very courageous to have come out, and we're all proud of you here in the youtube community. I am extremely lucky having such an accepting family. We all love you Michael and we're so grateful that you are yourself. dont ever change! BESOS

  • I knew the overview of this story, but not the details. I love you for telling this, Michael.  I hope you'll tell us the rest of the story in future videos....your Mom's reaction, your twin brother's reaction, etc.

    I look forward to hearing the rest. Hugz!

  • i wonder how your mom reacted...

  • hey mike, is your dad the asian one or is it your mom?

  • It was his mom. He said it in his 5awesomegays video this week :D

  • For what its worth, I think that its amazing that you are so comfortable with yourself that you can share something so personal. I really appreciated it. I am really glad that you are happy and that you can live your life honestly. I just wanted to jump through the screen and hug you. I am really happy that you are happy.

  • <333

  • I came out back when it still wasnt cool to come out ..It was even less cool considering where I live (North Dakota). it was tuff for a long time. Now, my Mom and I can talk about it but its best to not say much to my Dad. He still thinks that all I need is the right woman. Oh well, thats just his generation talking..at least thats what I keep telling myself.

    Thanks for telling your story. Its always good to hear others experiences with coming out.

  • I'm glad youre so comfortable with yourself that you can share this with us

  • Ugh, Michael. I love you even more now.

  • Thank you so much for sharing this story with us Micheal, i do hope you and your dad are on better terms now. I think good friends are comfortable almost immediately, but family is a different matter altogether. I think parents like to think they'd be cool if their child was gay, but it doesn't always end up that way (that rhymed)

    Sorry I'm blabbing now. Love ya, wonderful video! X

  • your a poet and you didnt even know it

  • nah, that would imply being talented at something! lol... I'm fine here in my talentless pool :( X

  • lmao

  • this is really stupid of me, sorry if this offends anyone, i dont know if it will or not but yeah.

    i always thought that gay people have gay genes? but you have a twin brother right? and twins have the same genes right? I'm failing science so tel me if i'm wrong, me being wrong happens alot. but so doesn't that prove people wrong saying that you are born gay? like, that you're not born gay because there is no gay gene? i might have this all wrong and most likely do. hartz wanna hear some more :)

  • There has been twin studies suggesting that aprroximately 50% of the time, a gay guy's twin will also be gay (Although this number is still debatable due to the nature of the volunteers: ie. a guy is more likely to come in if the brother is also gay) What this means is that while genetics isn't the ONLY thing that determines whether you're gay, it still plays a roll. It also suggests being gay could be similar to the case of fingerprints (Identical twins dont have identical fingerprints)

  • ohhhhh. :) thanks for clearing it up for me

  • what the hell are you talking about? lol, sorry I did not get any of that. Do you have any actual proof about any of that stuff?

  • me?

  • what about your mom?

  • thanks for filming this, it's great to get honest accounts of coming out. I hope everything is better by now with your dad.

  • thanks for your story, i am glad that you found the inner strength to tell your dad the truth about your orientation cause it is not an easy step. you know dads always have some sort of version of the future for their children and they get very frustrated when eventually it does not work out the way they dreamed or wished, so they need time to overcome this. some dads can accept the reality and some can't. I hope that everything is rock'n'roll now between you and your dad.

  • ..also, this is the last one..haha..

    i've done that whole crying when you get in the car thing!! it's horrible but you have to let it go. you put yourself in a situation that you think will be positive or at the very least manageable and then it ends up knocking you down or making your heart ache because you love the person so much and it didn't go the way you thought... yeah... not a good feeling. <3 youuu.

    i hear sirens.. am i crazy?! :)

  • since your dad used to ask you if you have anything else to add, that shows he wanted to listen to what you had to say & he loves you. hearing that was hard which is understandable. he is from a diff. time, most men his age have a negative stance towards gay men. it's AWESOME that he came around & i'm happy you shared this with us. i'd like to know about your mom reacted [sorry if she's not around or you already told that story :)] & also, how you told your brother & his reaction.

  • i love what you said at the end too cause it's nice that you realize it took you time, so it might take others time. <333 GREAT way of looking at it.

  • i really want to tell my parents but many a times my parents have talked about grand kids etc...i just dont want to be a disappointment...me and my dad have never got on great but hes still my dad...my mum i love and dont want to hurt but ive told her im focusing on uni work but love is love and it doesnt bother me if its a guy or a girl...she looked at me and continued talking about he day at work :S

  • i feel horrible ...how's my life going if i come out...!!!

  • Do you and your Dad talk okay now?

  • sorry about you dad......I felt for you when you said you just started bawling at the steering wheel.....btw what about your twin brother??can you tell us about his reaction or did he already know sorta?

  • your comment is pretty much what i was going to say. :)

  • lol

  • A sad (and familiar) story, yet how proud of yourself you must be. I wish you good fortune with your family/friends. Not all will understand or accept you, but remain true to yourself,

    Aegan

  • I'm happy you were finally able to accept yourself. I was a bit of a late bloomer too; I was a few months shy of 21 and sometimes wonder what might've been if I'd come out sooner.

  • It's very sad he did that to you. He put his own feelings above those of yours.. which a parent shouldn't do.

    It's too bad that you have to be the adult and try to understand him instead of the other way around.

  • All I want to say is that I admire you so much. Coming out to family is probably the hardest thing to do. They are always going to be part of your life and we all fear what their reaction is going to be.

  • I was lucky in the sense that i supported myself since i was 16 years old. I wasn't particularly attatched to my parents so coming out wasn't as difficult for me. If my parents had rejected me i would've just said fuck it. You've only got one life - live it for you. The only thing i hated about coming out was talking about my private life to my parents; im intensely guarded when it comes to family members. so saying hey mom i like cock was like being naked in public.

  • i never came out, ive always felt doing that would have been like asking for acceptance, my brother was drunk and asked me cause he said he needed to know :)

  • At the least, your Dad didn't lie to you, or verbally attack you. I will give that much to him. It's hard - he grew up in a different time. When "late bloomers" were often 40 to 50 years old, after one or more marriages. It took my Dad a few months, but I didn't suffer that rejection that you did. Thank you for telling your story! It's personal, and honest - one of the best things to find on YouTube. Hugs

  • my friend only just came out a month ago - I was the first person he told - he says he never wants to tell his family, but I know he does, cos he keeps saying what their reactions might be...

  • I love these coming out stories, it's so true that their's not one single 'coming out'. It's all in stages and then constant through life after that! Sorry to hear things with you Dad didn't go as expected, it's so hard to work out what their reactions are going to be. Anyway, really nicely done! x

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