Thanks to this video I learned that in order to have an opinion on classical music you need to use fancy words, otherwise someone's going to cry over it. Furthermore, who gives a shit about someone's opinion on music is, it doesn't affect you in any way shape or form. If it does, you need mental help and to learn that everything in life - including music - is subjective, whether you like it or not.
I normally don't do this but, aimson, I have to say that it is a disgrace that you as the 'uploader' of this video and, from what I can tell, someone who appreciates music would say something so disrespectful and blatantly sensationalist re; Bell stinking. There is so much crap written in youtube already, why add such unnecessary and disrespectful comments? I am not a big fan of Bell's style myself but he is a fantastic violinist. I just don't get it....
@q6600stock Hm, well if you expect me to sugar-coat and veil my descriptions of musicians I listen to, you will be disappointed in almost everything I write. The problem with Youtube is that opinions need space to flow properly. My opinion is that Joshua Bell is one of my favorite violinists until a certain point of his career. Just like with Menuhin, I found his quality of playing go way down and I no longer hold him in esteem. "Stink" and "hideous" are just crude descriptors.
First of all. I do not expect you or anyone else here on youtube and, anywhere else, to sugarcoat anything - - by all means, say it as you feel. Furthermore, for all intended purposes I agree; Bell's technique and playing quality most certainly took a dive downwards at some point. However, I do not agree that 'stink' is just a crude description; hideous, maybe, but stink? Come now, that's just trite, arrogant, and inappropriate. It takes away for the positive things you say....
@q6600stock A fair point. What I meant was that 'stink' was a crude descriptor and not really reflective of my more intellectual viewpoint. If I thought it was worth it, I'd have spent more time explaining my opinion and the specific reasons for not liking Bell's playing. My comment was written in passing and not intended to offend Bell or his fans. With that said, I do think he stinks and I would not pay money to see him again in concert. Also, his quality of playing died with Gingold.
@aimson I personally don't have a problem with you saying "stink" since I was able to understand what you were trying to say. Sometimes its ok just to say what your feeling instead of trying to use the biggest word you know to describe it.
@tennisbeasta1234 Just because someone cannot reproduce what an artist does, does not mean they are not entitled to an opinion... That's a ridiculous mindset to have.
@Apothis It's hard to argue against the truth. However, let me ask you this: what gives you the right to say people who are affected by somebody's opinion needs "mental help"? We just disagree with another opinion. Just because we are affected by somebody elses opinion doesn't mean we need "mental help", only that we think differently. It doesn't actually affect somebody that much, but if somebody wants to convey their opinion that clashes with another opinion, do we need mental help?
Oi! Don't be bashing Joshua Bell! I heard him about a month ago, and absolutely nothing was wrong with his performance. And hideous to watch? I don't see anything wrong with moving about on the stage, since it's a pretty telltale sign that you're having fun and feeling the music. I can't see the problem with any of this, and hating on people is wrong to begin with, and in this case, there seems to be no justification for it, which is only worse.
If I was him, I'd be moving around too. Standing still is boring as shit. Also, he can get the blood moving and heat up the body, which I'm sure can only make him play better.
I think everyone is within their own right to like or dislike a musician. I personally don't really care whether or not I like violinists. Maybe if I knew who the pianist was...
I think everyone is within their own right to like or dislike a musician. I personally don't really care whether or not I like violinists. Maybe if I knew who the pianist was...
It's impossible that some people don't like this music, it's so pure and sad...Anybody can't stay without cry... I'm 16 years old, I'm violonist for 10 years. And it's the first time a score puts me in this state.
I am a clarinet player. I can tell you, every musician needs to move their body differently to other musicians. The act of playing music takes much of oneself then can be imagined. So like in the case of Bell long movements of the body might make the sound more steady. In anyway every musician develops a different move to their body which is almost subconscious to the player him or herself. It is too personal a think to be criticized by.
@TheRavenclawstudent you´re right :) i´m sick of all this guys talkin about "good and bad violinist" and all this stuff, but they never touched a violin :)
That said, and it is an important point which must be addressed, this is a beautiful performance of one of my favorite pieces for viola and piano. Passionate and intense.
Little Jason watched as his Dad suddenly felt an intense pain in his ass. Justin craned his neck, only to see his good buddy Jesus sodomizing him. "WTF, dude?" cried Justin. Jesus replied "this is for all the harsh words & judgment against others. You are not a true Christian, & an example must be made of you. Besides, I like doing this." Justin tried to hold back his tears, thinking to himself "if only I'd taken the log out of my own eye, instead of pointing out the speck in others!"
Please quit the glissandi. It's hidious! I thinking this performance is sort of... boring. He could do so much more, it's improvasation! I know he could do more!
@pohadkapohadka yeah but compare him to heifitz on this one and he does so much more. compare him to anybody playing this piece for that matter, this is as good as it gets.
I don't play music, but I do love to listen. Even though I can't read notes, I can read emotion. I cried several times listening to Joshua Bell's music; they are just so incredibly beautiful. Art isn't how perfect you are, but rather how much you can reflect your heart, and that, itself, is more than perfect. I don't find anything wrong with his movements or current abilities. Seriously, if you're listening to Joshua Bell's music just to say something disrespectful and uneducated, GET A LIFE.
@aimson - although I do agree with you his body language is severely distracting, and for the most part doesn't really coincide with the musical aspects of the piece he's playing, I will say this: His playing is still amazing, it has not diminished. Furthermore, ponder this. Mr. Bell is at a level of mastery where he can basically have a seizure on stage and still play flawlessly. We cannot fault him for the seizure looking horrible, after all he's not a trained dancer.
Joshua Bell is my favorite violinist of my generation. While the generation of Itzhak Perlman are lucky to have him, we have our own gem, respectively. Itzhak does have the charms and the flair for producing his own sounds and variation. I believe that my mom likes Itzhak.
His renditions are beautiful and all art is interpretation. You enjoy the interpretation or you don't. I have been all over and have never seen anyone who looked like Picasso's people or pine trees that look like any of The Group of Seven or panoramas that look like Van Gogh. Vive la difference....
This is for those who criticize Bell. Understandably there are the Masters like Ivry Gitlis etc that he doesn't match up to, but Bell is very very good. The lack of love shown by his critics is harsh and goes over the line of fair.
I gave my subjective opinion based on objective observations. You came to a different conclusion. My sense of musicality is mostly based on the works of the older generation of violin players who did not need to sway around like a tree in a hurricane to make incredible music. I found Bell incredibly distracting both times I saw him in person. Further, I found it important to draw the distinction between "old" and "new" Bell. Call it a "balanced analysis" instead of sophomoric.
I know what people are reacting to when they criticize his playing in this piece. The beginning is MUCH too pretty. The piece is marked "fieramente" Would you call that "with fire?"
He's much too polite and sweet.
He needs to bear down more and be fiercer.
And before anyone says anything, yes, I am a violinist and I have played this piece in performance. So I know what I'm talking about. Plus, I have the sheet music right in front of me.
definitely agree with you on the beginning. I'm studying this piece to begin working on it. I think the best interpretations I've heard on youtube so far are Gitlis and maybe Kogan. The music is not only fiery and capricious, it's highly improvisational in quality. While it is mostly measured, I think a well developed interpreation of this should give the illusion of not being as such.
I definitely see what you mean.. and I am not a great fan of Bell, but I think that he doesn't want to give it all away in the opening because there is so much later on that needs to be fiery. I think he's trying his best merely to introduce the theme in the beginning, as we hear that he later on digs in more.
"Fieramente" is an Italian adverb which doesn't derive from English, but from the Latin word "ferum". "Fieramente" can be translated "proudly" (Italian: orgogliosamente) and the "fierezza" (the noun from the adverb) is a quality of the nobility. Therefore "fieramente" means "con fierezza".
The English "fire" hasn't Latin ethimology but Old English one. The Italian word "fuoco" (in English "fire"), instead, derives from the Latin "focum".
Does anyone know any youtube users who are very knowledgeable about violin music? I need to find a song and need someone with a lot of knowledge to help me.
I don't understand why everyone is suddenly so critical of Bell almost so suddenly he's still a great musician and not every performance has to be a gem. I don't see how he can just start to "stink" now. His performances are still wonderful to listen to
He is better to listen to than to watch. For me it is distracting to watch him go through all of his contortions and dance steps as he plays. Purely as musician I think he is on the top level for the younger musician category.
I like the version with Hagai Shaham better. And the pause just before the end is way too short, it should last so long that you are starting to wonder if it's already over.
how rude to say such a cruel comment like that,obviously a fuck up of a human being what..?I've seen you perform years ago at THe Freetrade Hall M/cr Prokofiev 1st violin concerto and was utterly blown away with your musicianship snd beauty and recently had almost the same seats at BWHall M/cr in Beethoven violinconcerto and we thought you'd gone even more gorgeous. Beauty and talent Bravo Josh.
The body movement is a distraction from the music and I can't concentrate. The old masters put out greater music than Bell ever will in his lifetime and they pretty much just stand there focusing on the sound. I saw Bell in concert twice, once at a small recital at UCLA - the word "hideous" still stands (pun intended).
Youre being a bit too harsh there. Bell has put out some of the most amazing music ever recorded. His Kreisler is regarded as the top recording of Kreisler of our time. His Mendelssohn and Beethoven concertos are absolutely top notch.
His movements aren't distracting to me. Of course, he could concentrate on sound more, but his sound is beautiful the way it is-it's his own. It's unique.
In my opinion, he doesn't move too much. Vengerov does.
No way, battleblades! Bell's pathetic efforts have doubled my workload. Half the fans who I have to guide to safety are Bell fans. He'd save me a lot of work if he packed it in.
Please realise that I savage Bell only for you own good.
There is no reason to downgrade someone of such great talent. It's disrespectful, highly disrepectful. I saw Joshua Bell this past May, and there is nothing wrong with how he plays. His playing surpasses anyone, because he feels the music and shows it through body movement. It's beautiful, and very right for the music. Don't downgrade someone with amazing talent. It's disrespectful on many levels.
Well I have very good reasons for "downgrading" Bell because I don't like his playing in general anymore. I think there is something wrong with how he plays, physically and musically. He doesn't feel the music any more than a violinist who doesn't gyrate profusely on stage. Of course Bell has amazing talent, that's why I loved listening to his earlier recordings. Please learn to accept differing viewpoints before you go around accusing others of being "disrespectful."
Hello, grenadilla. If you could take the time and read the post before mine that I replied to, I just told someone what Josh was playing in another vid. I would appreciate it if you could keep your uneducated and ridiculous comments to yourself. Thank you.
To be honest, his technique is great, I just dont feel the emotion I believe I should. The guy extcute is right--he needs to stop and picture, try to imagine, the emotion a Jew would feel.
He does not, however, play it poorly. Just lacking in emotion. But the technique--the tecnique! Good lord, it's amazing! :O
So what emotion, pray tell, would a Jew feel? Should I take this to mean that you are a Jew and do not feel what you feel Bell is feeling here? Because I myself am Jewish and I have to say, this is beautiful. If it's not the most emotional violin playing in the world, so be it. Nobody said it had to be. That makes it no less phenomenal. But what, in all seriousness, do you think Jews should feel?
I am in complete aggreeance with you, because I am am Jewish as well. I don't really understand what syren345 meant by this, but I do however agree that I have heard more emotion in this particular piece. If you listen to Misky's (or however you spell his last name) reccording which is actually played on the cello, it's a little more emotional...but Mr. Bell has definately outdone himself with this reccording.
Get over yourselves, he's amazing. I really have to wonder how shallow or self absorded someone has to be to not enjoy this, guys, get a life, and enjoy it!
Keep in mind that Bell is only 23 years old in this recording (Presenting Joshua Bell - 1990). The playing is very consistent with the rest of the CD. Here you only get the recording out of context. Also, there are several later recordings of Bloch in the 90's and 2000's.
Thanks, Aimson, I'm not musically trained, so I doubted myself a little when I noted all Bell's playing a few years ago became dead. I was sorry, but it sounded bad to me, so it's not me!
I think it's a matter of finances. To break into the violin recording world, one has to compete with a lot more violinists nowadays than before. Joshua does it his way. We either buy it or don't. It's as simple as that. It's amazing just to be able to give a live concert with a paid orchestra, on a Strad. The Strad will always speak for itself, no matter who is playing it.... criticize away, if it gives you a good feeling.
I really think that Bell's earlier recordings are wonderful and very much worth listening to. Even though he isn't perfect, he is still a very talented and well-schooled violinist. He has unique interpretations of the music he plays and is distinguished in his own way. He has personality and character and sometimes plays extremely beautifully and passionately. It is there if you listen for it.
People of Jewish anscestry have given the world some of the greatest violinists, and taught many others how to play greatly. But there's a difference between gypsy and Jewish styles. Some Jewish pieces reflect the sadness of the Holocaust - sorrow. It's like "the blues". It's a matter of opinion whether one needs to cry while playing, to make it more proper...
:) the first enry is far too beautiful. you don't hear the sorrow, the weaping or the pain that this peice should portray. (ignore message from 'jennifercwebster' i was signed into my friends account by mistake)
I like Kennedy. So does my dad. My teacher hates him though. I think he has a very unique style that is definitely worth paying attention to. My only real complaint is that his playing is too brutish at times. He needs to stop scratching.
I do love both perlman and vengerov, and think they both bring EXTREMELY different interpretations to the music they play, but you must admit, Nigel Kennedy has done masses in hlping to push forward classical music. To compare kennedy, vengerov, perlman, and bell is rediculous, as they are all soo different, but i just feel that bells recordings are rather limp-wristed. It just doesn't sound like he is grieving in this peice.
Fantastic work of art, I do realy admier ur deep imagination of sound
maxiimillion 1 month ago
people, stop getting used to hearing auto-tuned-perfect pop music....
everything perfect is humanly impossible..
violinnerds 2 months ago
5:00 a little out of tune? But otherwise a really thoughtful interpretation of this piece.
jasmine543210 5 months ago
Stellar piece.
Apothis 5 months ago
Thanks to this video I learned that in order to have an opinion on classical music you need to use fancy words, otherwise someone's going to cry over it. Furthermore, who gives a shit about someone's opinion on music is, it doesn't affect you in any way shape or form. If it does, you need mental help and to learn that everything in life - including music - is subjective, whether you like it or not.
Apothis 5 months ago in playlist Very GOOD playlist for Classical music
wonderful. He portrays the emotion through the music.
sfirdman 6 months ago
this is the sound...nice...
Muzyk005 7 months ago
I still love Kogan's version best, but Bell does an amazing job with this. love ittt.
ohhitsjadeee 10 months ago
I normally don't do this but, aimson, I have to say that it is a disgrace that you as the 'uploader' of this video and, from what I can tell, someone who appreciates music would say something so disrespectful and blatantly sensationalist re; Bell stinking. There is so much crap written in youtube already, why add such unnecessary and disrespectful comments? I am not a big fan of Bell's style myself but he is a fantastic violinist. I just don't get it....
q6600stock 10 months ago 19
@q6600stock Hm, well if you expect me to sugar-coat and veil my descriptions of musicians I listen to, you will be disappointed in almost everything I write. The problem with Youtube is that opinions need space to flow properly. My opinion is that Joshua Bell is one of my favorite violinists until a certain point of his career. Just like with Menuhin, I found his quality of playing go way down and I no longer hold him in esteem. "Stink" and "hideous" are just crude descriptors.
aimson 10 months ago 8
@aimson
First of all. I do not expect you or anyone else here on youtube and, anywhere else, to sugarcoat anything - - by all means, say it as you feel. Furthermore, for all intended purposes I agree; Bell's technique and playing quality most certainly took a dive downwards at some point. However, I do not agree that 'stink' is just a crude description; hideous, maybe, but stink? Come now, that's just trite, arrogant, and inappropriate. It takes away for the positive things you say....
q6600stock 10 months ago
@q6600stock A fair point. What I meant was that 'stink' was a crude descriptor and not really reflective of my more intellectual viewpoint. If I thought it was worth it, I'd have spent more time explaining my opinion and the specific reasons for not liking Bell's playing. My comment was written in passing and not intended to offend Bell or his fans. With that said, I do think he stinks and I would not pay money to see him again in concert. Also, his quality of playing died with Gingold.
aimson 10 months ago
@aimson I personally don't have a problem with you saying "stink" since I was able to understand what you were trying to say. Sometimes its ok just to say what your feeling instead of trying to use the biggest word you know to describe it.
divastar226 4 weeks ago 2
@q6600stock So this entire pissy fit was over the use of the word 'stink'? You're right, there IS a lot of crap written on youtube =p
DeeDuckShin 6 months ago in playlist Very GOOD playlist for Classical music
@aimson Yes! I agree. They are "crude" descriptors. But, perhaps, this is not about Bell's body, but yours...
(student of Boris Schwarz)..............
outoftunefiddler 9 months ago
HIs violin sounds...interesting... Special sound, somewhat like a folk violin...
Paganini1986 10 months ago
Very nice hook at the beginning.
pratikh 11 months ago
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tennisbeasta1234 11 months ago
@tennisbeasta1234 Just because someone cannot reproduce what an artist does, does not mean they are not entitled to an opinion... That's a ridiculous mindset to have.
Apothis 5 months ago
@Apothis It's hard to argue against the truth. However, let me ask you this: what gives you the right to say people who are affected by somebody's opinion needs "mental help"? We just disagree with another opinion. Just because we are affected by somebody elses opinion doesn't mean we need "mental help", only that we think differently. It doesn't actually affect somebody that much, but if somebody wants to convey their opinion that clashes with another opinion, do we need mental help?
tennisbeasta1234 5 months ago
@tennisbeasta1234 Good point, a bad choice of words on my part as well.
Apothis 5 months ago
Oi! Don't be bashing Joshua Bell! I heard him about a month ago, and absolutely nothing was wrong with his performance. And hideous to watch? I don't see anything wrong with moving about on the stage, since it's a pretty telltale sign that you're having fun and feeling the music. I can't see the problem with any of this, and hating on people is wrong to begin with, and in this case, there seems to be no justification for it, which is only worse.
TheBeethovenfencer 11 months ago
too much piano ..
gnulen 11 months ago
If I was him, I'd be moving around too. Standing still is boring as shit. Also, he can get the blood moving and heat up the body, which I'm sure can only make him play better.
evilee13 11 months ago
Great playing as ever, and nice to see him standing still for a change.
mrwasbesonders 1 year ago
Love this man's music, I spend hours listening these beautiful music. Godsh,.... he is good.
Onefreeman1000 1 year ago
Come on, there's no need to bash Joshua Bell... I highly doubt your level of playing is anywhere close to his.
flpanthers308 1 year ago
:D magnifique!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
misskokopelli 1 year ago 36
perfect
avatarlove744 1 year ago
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I think everyone is within their own right to like or dislike a musician. I personally don't really care whether or not I like violinists. Maybe if I knew who the pianist was...
dammitdepinna 1 year ago
I think everyone is within their own right to like or dislike a musician. I personally don't really care whether or not I like violinists. Maybe if I knew who the pianist was...
dammitdepinna 1 year ago 2
It's impossible that some people don't like this music, it's so pure and sad...Anybody can't stay without cry... I'm 16 years old, I'm violonist for 10 years. And it's the first time a score puts me in this state.
Bloomy972 1 year ago
wow...
he is really great.
vlnlvr22 1 year ago
I am a clarinet player. I can tell you, every musician needs to move their body differently to other musicians. The act of playing music takes much of oneself then can be imagined. So like in the case of Bell long movements of the body might make the sound more steady. In anyway every musician develops a different move to their body which is almost subconscious to the player him or herself. It is too personal a think to be criticized by.
medusa210562 1 year ago
Stop calling him a bad violinist. The most you guys can play is Mary had a little lamb
TheRavenclawstudent 1 year ago 6
@TheRavenclawstudent you´re right :) i´m sick of all this guys talkin about "good and bad violinist" and all this stuff, but they never touched a violin :)
charlotteviolin 1 year ago
That said, and it is an important point which must be addressed, this is a beautiful performance of one of my favorite pieces for viola and piano. Passionate and intense.
justin10292000 1 year ago
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Little Jason watched as his Dad suddenly felt an intense pain in his ass. Justin craned his neck, only to see his good buddy Jesus sodomizing him. "WTF, dude?" cried Justin. Jesus replied "this is for all the harsh words & judgment against others. You are not a true Christian, & an example must be made of you. Besides, I like doing this." Justin tried to hold back his tears, thinking to himself "if only I'd taken the log out of my own eye, instead of pointing out the speck in others!"
CecilTheSeaMonster 1 year ago
Why is the pianist not acknowledged? Who is the pianist? This is chamber music, not solo violin.
justin10292000 1 year ago 3
Please quit the glissandi. It's hidious! I thinking this performance is sort of... boring. He could do so much more, it's improvasation! I know he could do more!
pohadkapohadka 1 year ago
@pohadkapohadka yeah but compare him to heifitz on this one and he does so much more. compare him to anybody playing this piece for that matter, this is as good as it gets.
aitthen 11 months ago
I don't play music, but I do love to listen. Even though I can't read notes, I can read emotion. I cried several times listening to Joshua Bell's music; they are just so incredibly beautiful. Art isn't how perfect you are, but rather how much you can reflect your heart, and that, itself, is more than perfect. I don't find anything wrong with his movements or current abilities. Seriously, if you're listening to Joshua Bell's music just to say something disrespectful and uneducated, GET A LIFE.
ReinneScarletmist 1 year ago 3
this joshua bell person sukz btw i play violin
lollipopsweets4833 1 year ago
@lollipopsweets4833 why?
TheKeenanBoy 1 year ago
@lollipopsweets4833 AHHAAHHAHAAH I LUV U
SpoonsForks 1 year ago
@lollipopsweets4833 Keep in mind... he's famous and you're not.
Foreverjammin99 1 year ago
@aimson - although I do agree with you his body language is severely distracting, and for the most part doesn't really coincide with the musical aspects of the piece he's playing, I will say this: His playing is still amazing, it has not diminished. Furthermore, ponder this. Mr. Bell is at a level of mastery where he can basically have a seizure on stage and still play flawlessly. We cannot fault him for the seizure looking horrible, after all he's not a trained dancer.
Rommel1337 1 year ago
Joshua Bell is my favorite violinist of my generation. While the generation of Itzhak Perlman are lucky to have him, we have our own gem, respectively. Itzhak does have the charms and the flair for producing his own sounds and variation. I believe that my mom likes Itzhak.
waddleduckie1 1 year ago 4
Good imitation of Mr.Leonid Kogan !!! you play great!!!
sewerance 1 year ago
alguien puede decirme en que tono esta?
balosegura 2 years ago
sol menor. G minor.
Dianadaher 2 years ago
i guess he's pretty good, i like the scales and the vibrato
jo2ilovemusic00 2 years ago
IIEtaitUneForet-- It means "pouilleux" .
Mais ce nait pas vrai, d'accord?
ipmoic 2 years ago
Ah ok merci!
IlEtaitUneForet 2 years ago
I love Joshua Bell!!! he's my hero!!! I would seriously faint if I was invited to perform with him... XD OMGOSH! LOL
animaldocsomeday 2 years ago 4
what does he mean by '' he stinks'' ?!??? (im french so could someone eplain to me wtf is that PLEASE?)
IlEtaitUneForet 2 years ago
it means, he's not very good at playing. It literally means, he has a bad odor but the literal meaning is not what he mean.
Sheerpower 2 years ago
ok thanks.... but I still don't understand why he wrote that :| lol i mean, listen to him. anyways, thank you.
IlEtaitUneForet 2 years ago
true. He is better than me for sure and most musicians in general.
Sheerpower 2 years ago
It means the person who said that about Bell is a jack ass.
MiloArc 2 years ago 3
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vlnlvr22 1 year ago
He Stinks? I KNOW nothing of music.But you must be 1 HELLAVA Fiddle player there boy!
brokendownhoarse 2 years ago 3
Aimson-
He has good form, how is he hideous to watch, and good form is hideous?
StayMyBaby232 2 years ago
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StayMyBaby232 2 years ago
Oh my goodness, I love joshua bell. my beginning orchestra director says he's a fine example
StayMyBaby232 2 years ago
this is a good recording. I like it
ankeviolin 2 years ago
His renditions are beautiful and all art is interpretation. You enjoy the interpretation or you don't. I have been all over and have never seen anyone who looked like Picasso's people or pine trees that look like any of The Group of Seven or panoramas that look like Van Gogh. Vive la difference....
mikinaknad 2 years ago 6
He's so damn good.
xenonangel799 2 years ago 4
JOshua Bell you are magnificent. I hope to see you play in the Philippines.
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vangie916 2 years ago
very talented. Bravo! )
OlafAndvarafors 2 years ago
This is for those who criticize Bell. Understandably there are the Masters like Ivry Gitlis etc that he doesn't match up to, but Bell is very very good. The lack of love shown by his critics is harsh and goes over the line of fair.
Yeshulion 2 years ago 5
Everyone's a critic.
mllhartshorn 2 years ago 2
How can anyone play so beautifully? There is Pearlman and there was Kreisler. We never heard enough from David Oistrach, but he was also exceptional.
ernawoodward 2 years ago
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belle12071937 2 years ago 4
I gave my subjective opinion based on objective observations. You came to a different conclusion. My sense of musicality is mostly based on the works of the older generation of violin players who did not need to sway around like a tree in a hurricane to make incredible music. I found Bell incredibly distracting both times I saw him in person. Further, I found it important to draw the distinction between "old" and "new" Bell. Call it a "balanced analysis" instead of sophomoric.
aimson 2 years ago
@aimson haha tree in hurricane.
you're right though, heifetz, menhuin, even newer players like perlman keep their bodies relatively still.
246trinitrotoluene 1 year ago
I know what people are reacting to when they criticize his playing in this piece. The beginning is MUCH too pretty. The piece is marked "fieramente" Would you call that "with fire?"
He's much too polite and sweet.
He needs to bear down more and be fiercer.
And before anyone says anything, yes, I am a violinist and I have played this piece in performance. So I know what I'm talking about. Plus, I have the sheet music right in front of me.
Wonkapoo 2 years ago
definitely agree with you on the beginning. I'm studying this piece to begin working on it. I think the best interpretations I've heard on youtube so far are Gitlis and maybe Kogan. The music is not only fiery and capricious, it's highly improvisational in quality. While it is mostly measured, I think a well developed interpreation of this should give the illusion of not being as such.
fiddlinmatt 2 years ago
The literal translation of "Fieramente" is something like "Proudly" or "Boastfully", if a word like this does exist in English...;-)
There is not relation with fire, which is "Fuoco".
sabba71 2 years ago 7
I think he plays it very arhythmical, too...
GEEZER666666 2 years ago
rubato??
goroundit123 2 years ago
Nigun was written as a improvisational piece. It even says it in the title.
mllhartshorn 2 years ago
Well that doesn't mean you can do about anything and disregard a lot of what the composer has written.
GEEZER666666 2 years ago
I definitely see what you mean.. and I am not a great fan of Bell, but I think that he doesn't want to give it all away in the opening because there is so much later on that needs to be fiery. I think he's trying his best merely to introduce the theme in the beginning, as we hear that he later on digs in more.
rickisteiner 2 years ago
"Fieramente" is an Italian adverb which doesn't derive from English, but from the Latin word "ferum". "Fieramente" can be translated "proudly" (Italian: orgogliosamente) and the "fierezza" (the noun from the adverb) is a quality of the nobility. Therefore "fieramente" means "con fierezza".
The English "fire" hasn't Latin ethimology but Old English one. The Italian word "fuoco" (in English "fire"), instead, derives from the Latin "focum".
dreamandwakeup 2 years ago
This is one of the most moving pieces I've ever heard in my life and Joshua does it better than anyone else.
seattlegrrlie 2 years ago 2
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ZacharyTheVioliner 2 years ago
correct but glacial...
sinigrilli 2 years ago 2
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canalediscortaxamici 2 years ago
please explain to me in what respect joshua bell now 'stinks'???
lambauze 2 years ago
go listen to some old recordings and you'll be able to answer that question yourself.
alianse1234 2 years ago
Amazing violinist. I saw him live a few years ago. I'm currently playing this piece so hearing a quality recording helps.
ViolinBballFTW 2 years ago
dude are you even good enough to play a master piece like this
citamsirp 2 years ago
I agree with areuaninja violin recieves
jkep1 2 years ago
Wow violin recieves hard, fat, meaty....
areuaninja 2 years ago 2
Does anyone know any youtube users who are very knowledgeable about violin music? I need to find a song and need someone with a lot of knowledge to help me.
VanillaShoelace 2 years ago
which album does this recording belong to?
23bpg 2 years ago
Wow, this is great. I feel in love with Bell when I heard the soundtrack to "The Red Violin."
akalish22 3 years ago 2
Damn you, sir! Damn you to Hell!!!
JoshBellKills 2 years ago
he is hot! ahhhhhhhhhh.... =P
loulop87 3 years ago 3
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caseybasey555 3 years ago
for this shi* of coment?
o my good, reserv your time for other things
joshua bell is a fantastic music!
masacalor6 2 years ago 2
kicked off !!
PandabeerMEISTER 2 years ago
I would just like to know what happened to him. I thought he used to be really good looking, now someone said he's hideous.
PruneBlossom 3 years ago
5 STARS!
gagi1963andjeo 3 years ago 2
wonderful,i like perlman's and grumiaux's too
farzadvengerov 3 years ago
...I love this piece. :D
It's a great recording. Thanks for posting it! ^_^
HeartlessAbsol 3 years ago
I don't understand why everyone is suddenly so critical of Bell almost so suddenly he's still a great musician and not every performance has to be a gem. I don't see how he can just start to "stink" now. His performances are still wonderful to listen to
Gaston1324 3 years ago 6
He is better to listen to than to watch. For me it is distracting to watch him go through all of his contortions and dance steps as he plays. Purely as musician I think he is on the top level for the younger musician category.
calloffthedogs 3 years ago
those who can't preach
pu186 3 years ago
I like the version with Hagai Shaham better. And the pause just before the end is way too short, it should last so long that you are starting to wonder if it's already over.
GEEZER666666 3 years ago
how rude to say such a cruel comment like that,obviously a fuck up of a human being what..?I've seen you perform years ago at THe Freetrade Hall M/cr Prokofiev 1st violin concerto and was utterly blown away with your musicianship snd beauty and recently had almost the same seats at BWHall M/cr in Beethoven violinconcerto and we thought you'd gone even more gorgeous. Beauty and talent Bravo Josh.
alaindeferrier 3 years ago
Why do you say he is hideous to watch?
melelina1260 3 years ago
The body movement is a distraction from the music and I can't concentrate. The old masters put out greater music than Bell ever will in his lifetime and they pretty much just stand there focusing on the sound. I saw Bell in concert twice, once at a small recital at UCLA - the word "hideous" still stands (pun intended).
aimson 3 years ago
Youre being a bit too harsh there. Bell has put out some of the most amazing music ever recorded. His Kreisler is regarded as the top recording of Kreisler of our time. His Mendelssohn and Beethoven concertos are absolutely top notch.
His movements aren't distracting to me. Of course, he could concentrate on sound more, but his sound is beautiful the way it is-it's his own. It's unique.
In my opinion, he doesn't move too much. Vengerov does.
battleblades 3 years ago 4
No way, battleblades! Bell's pathetic efforts have doubled my workload. Half the fans who I have to guide to safety are Bell fans. He'd save me a lot of work if he packed it in.
Please realise that I savage Bell only for you own good.
JoshBellKills 2 years ago
Bravo aimson! I have admired you musical knowledge for some time, and your harsh criticism of Bell's miserable efforts sels the deal.
Bravo, sir!
IHeartJoshuaBell 2 years ago
There is no reason to downgrade someone of such great talent. It's disrespectful, highly disrepectful. I saw Joshua Bell this past May, and there is nothing wrong with how he plays. His playing surpasses anyone, because he feels the music and shows it through body movement. It's beautiful, and very right for the music. Don't downgrade someone with amazing talent. It's disrespectful on many levels.
ShayBayPictures 2 years ago 45
Well I have very good reasons for "downgrading" Bell because I don't like his playing in general anymore. I think there is something wrong with how he plays, physically and musically. He doesn't feel the music any more than a violinist who doesn't gyrate profusely on stage. Of course Bell has amazing talent, that's why I loved listening to his earlier recordings. Please learn to accept differing viewpoints before you go around accusing others of being "disrespectful."
aimson 2 years ago
@aimson
YOU should learn that is nothing wrong with someone who does not play or move the body the way you think it should be. Everyone is different.
To say that "is something wrong with how he plays, physically and musically" proves only one thing: that it's something wrong with you.
gigiontube 1 year ago 5
@ShayBayPictures any good violinist knows that any superfluous movement just takes away from your sound.
mind you he is very good, but he's not the best example for beginners
246trinitrotoluene 1 year ago
@ShayBayPictures agree that he is amazing, but he is far too stuck up for my liking, its quite annoying actually
NYCroxmysocks 1 year ago
@ShayBayPictures
Can I vote up more than once ?
SolangeMGMahoney 1 year ago 2
battleblades...you're a moron, this is not bach. it's ernest bloch's "nigun"
grenadilla88 3 years ago
Hello, grenadilla. If you could take the time and read the post before mine that I replied to, I just told someone what Josh was playing in another vid. I would appreciate it if you could keep your uneducated and ridiculous comments to yourself. Thank you.
battleblades 3 years ago 30
Would someone please watch the following vid and tell me what song he's playing?
I can't get the URL to post. Please type "Stop and Hear the Music" into the search field.
Thank you for your assistance.
hiprocka 3 years ago 4
Hey hiprocka. I believe he is playing the Chaconne from Bach's Partita no. 2 in D minor for violin solo.
This is the vid of Josh in the metro, is it not?
battleblades 3 years ago 3
Yes, it is. Thanks for the info.
hiprocka 3 years ago 3
Would someone please listen to this vid and tell me what song he's playing.
hiprocka 3 years ago
wow....<3!!!
sportjock17 3 years ago 2
I luv playing my violin!!!
brownbrear07 3 years ago
wat grade?????
armaland11 3 years ago
VEry emotional AnD FulL oF FeeLiNg I luv HiS playiNG > REallY SpeCtAcULAr.
JSE160595 3 years ago
Gotta catch em all?
Epithom 3 years ago
it s a very special musican i love him
dilekmuzikseven 3 years ago 4
he is very gentle
sopranoms 3 years ago 2
To be honest, his technique is great, I just dont feel the emotion I believe I should. The guy extcute is right--he needs to stop and picture, try to imagine, the emotion a Jew would feel.
He does not, however, play it poorly. Just lacking in emotion. But the technique--the tecnique! Good lord, it's amazing! :O
syren345 3 years ago 3
So what emotion, pray tell, would a Jew feel? Should I take this to mean that you are a Jew and do not feel what you feel Bell is feeling here? Because I myself am Jewish and I have to say, this is beautiful. If it's not the most emotional violin playing in the world, so be it. Nobody said it had to be. That makes it no less phenomenal. But what, in all seriousness, do you think Jews should feel?
1violaplayr 3 years ago 3
I am in complete aggreeance with you, because I am am Jewish as well. I don't really understand what syren345 meant by this, but I do however agree that I have heard more emotion in this particular piece. If you listen to Misky's (or however you spell his last name) reccording which is actually played on the cello, it's a little more emotional...but Mr. Bell has definately outdone himself with this reccording.
drasume 3 years ago
ok i totally agree with u even though i am not Jewish, i play violin and my teacher does it with so much emotion
armaland11 3 years ago
Magnificent!
gutpink 3 years ago 2
He's a very, very good violinist.
xLovettx 3 years ago 3
he's so cute..i like
DivaKG 3 years ago 4
I think he sounds really good.
sopranoms 3 years ago 2
Get over yourselves, he's amazing. I really have to wonder how shallow or self absorded someone has to be to not enjoy this, guys, get a life, and enjoy it!
Dan14ct 4 years ago 5
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He needs to stop and picture all the Jews have gone through, take a breath and start over. This is played like a limp dishrag!
extcute 4 years ago
and you are an expert, I presume?????
otherwise, get a liufe.
maniactrn51 4 years ago 5
Don't get trolled so easily.
ascii32 3 years ago 2
I limp dishrag exponentially better than you!
DarkZodiark 3 years ago 2
need more pain and sorrow and a bit anger in this peice! Its a good perform but need more balls! :)
urketrooper 4 years ago 6
Keep in mind that Bell is only 23 years old in this recording (Presenting Joshua Bell - 1990). The playing is very consistent with the rest of the CD. Here you only get the recording out of context. Also, there are several later recordings of Bloch in the 90's and 2000's.
aimson 3 years ago
But then again, they weren't as attractive to watch, nor as fascinating!
minniemouseek 3 years ago
Oh please! What is it with this man? He plays the violin like a spasticated monkey then gets hordes of adoring fans. Unbelievable.
JoshBellKills 2 years ago 4
@JoshBellKills AHHAHA LUV UR NAME LOL
SpoonsForks 1 year ago
Thanks, Aimson, I'm not musically trained, so I doubted myself a little when I noted all Bell's playing a few years ago became dead. I was sorry, but it sounded bad to me, so it's not me!
sprygeoffreya17 2 years ago
I think it's a matter of finances. To break into the violin recording world, one has to compete with a lot more violinists nowadays than before. Joshua does it his way. We either buy it or don't. It's as simple as that. It's amazing just to be able to give a live concert with a paid orchestra, on a Strad. The Strad will always speak for itself, no matter who is playing it.... criticize away, if it gives you a good feeling.
pinchetele 2 years ago 3
He is a nice violinist!xD
marlkate 4 years ago 3
uh, this is not gypsy music.
dkurgano 4 years ago 2
i just saw him in a concert today! HE IS SO AMAZING!i dont care what any of u guys say he's very inspiring!
ViolinGirlR 4 years ago 3
Agreed.. He's not hideous at all, he is very into the music and it's very very beautiful to watch him perform.. He lets the music take him over..
lizzieodonnell 4 years ago 6
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Too slow, should give some dramatic touch. There is no music climax.
woll2502 4 years ago
I've heard it longer - Vengerov drew it out to seven and a half minutes, and it was still brilliant.
BlckComb 4 years ago
I'm watching "The red violin" and the music is played by Joshua Bell-He's a genius!!
elena2402 4 years ago 2
joshua bell is among the leagues of nk, ip and mv (sorry, too lazy to type it all out*)
he's one of the best in the world*
that's what i thought*
at least teh most emotional* keke*
uriebae 4 years ago 2
i just can't stop think that he is hardly in the nigel kennedy, itzak perlman, or maxim vengerov league is he?
mrmuscle91 4 years ago
I really think that Bell's earlier recordings are wonderful and very much worth listening to. Even though he isn't perfect, he is still a very talented and well-schooled violinist. He has unique interpretations of the music he plays and is distinguished in his own way. He has personality and character and sometimes plays extremely beautifully and passionately. It is there if you listen for it.
aimson 4 years ago
BUT HE NEEDS TO FIND THE GYPSY IN HIS SOUL!!!
:) the first enry is far too beautiful. you don't hear the sorrow, the weaping or the pain that this peice should portray.
jennifercwebster 4 years ago
People of Jewish anscestry have given the world some of the greatest violinists, and taught many others how to play greatly. But there's a difference between gypsy and Jewish styles. Some Jewish pieces reflect the sadness of the Holocaust - sorrow. It's like "the blues". It's a matter of opinion whether one needs to cry while playing, to make it more proper...
pinchetele 2 years ago 3
BUT HE NEEDS TO FIND THE GYPSY IN HIS SOUL!!!
:) the first enry is far too beautiful. you don't hear the sorrow, the weaping or the pain that this peice should portray. (ignore message from 'jennifercwebster' i was signed into my friends account by mistake)
mrmuscle91 4 years ago
I like Kennedy. So does my dad. My teacher hates him though. I think he has a very unique style that is definitely worth paying attention to. My only real complaint is that his playing is too brutish at times. He needs to stop scratching.
aimson 4 years ago
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Oh but he will. Really perceptive comment.
Allyson B.
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abel635618 4 years ago
Is this Allyson Balcetis?
jebsievers 4 years ago
How dare you put NIGEL FUCKING KENNEDY in the same paragraph as Perlman or Vengerov, let alone the same sentence.
BlckComb 4 years ago
I do love both perlman and vengerov, and think they both bring EXTREMELY different interpretations to the music they play, but you must admit, Nigel Kennedy has done masses in hlping to push forward classical music. To compare kennedy, vengerov, perlman, and bell is rediculous, as they are all soo different, but i just feel that bells recordings are rather limp-wristed. It just doesn't sound like he is grieving in this peice.
jennifercwebster 4 years ago
I do love bo