None of this is going to stop. There isn't $1 trillion much less a trillion for medical care. And Obama is no different than King George or Clintonoid. And we are going to loose all our property rights next. We already lost Habeas Corpus and Posse Commitatus. 2 things even Joseph Smith had a right to. We have less rights than 13th C. Europeans before the Magna Carta. But who remembers....
@IExposeMormonism The "it will cost one trillion" is part of the Republican and corporation's lie. They are speaking of the cost, as if the public will pay nothing, when in fact we are already spending more than that and will continue to pay for healthcare. The GOP lie is the the liberals think healthcare can be "free" when in fact, we're saying it can be had for less than we are now paying collectively.
Gulfporter: if you believe the government can do anything more efficiently or for less money than by ppl who get up, go to work and attract willing buyers for services rendered, then I have some Greek Treasure bonds I'd like to sell you.
I like that its showing just ordinary, real, everyday people who are upset over the financial mismanagement of our tax dollars by the federal government.
She doesn't want hr two little girls to pay an imaginary tax rate to support "socialist programs", but I'll bet that if those little girls need heroic measures to save their lives she expects the hospitals to do that regardless of her ability to pay.
National Single Payer is cheaper than what we are doing now. We're spending more and getting less than countries which have national single payer.
Stop it with the mantra already, since when could the government do anything efficiently? Rationed care is the only way they can make it work and Canada survives with it because the truly desperate can cross the border for care they can't receive timely enough at their own hospitals. There's a reason why the French say "don't get sick in August." It's because the unionized health practitioners are all on vacation. I'm sorry, socialized medicine is too lame to work right.
That's a Parisian expression. It predates their national health service and is a backhanded way of saying that everyone who is anyone is not to be found in Paris in August.
Government issued health care has not helped the French or Canadians in the examples I pointed out. It's triage care at best and immoral. I resent the idea of my health care decisions being taken away and appointments being treated like a court summons. Not to mention in the US we'd soon have affirmative action care, bringing down life expectancy for some in order to match others to be "fair." I trust government to be self serving not benevolent.
Damn right. Put yourself in the other persons position, those who cant pay. I could never understand how america's health system could be so screwed up
The laws of economics are as real as the laws of physics. You can't cheat them. Why should someone be compelled to pay for someone else's lunch, or healthcare? The truth is America has a safety net system. Is is perfect? no. Do people die in America because of supply and demand constraints on healthcare? yes. But no more tragically than any other western healthcare system in the world. EVERYONE dies in the end. The trick is to live a life your family would be proud of.
There is a difference between dieing from inadequate care than dieing from no care at all. The sum of money needed to pay for treatment of things like cancer, when presented to a single family for a single person, can be in such high amounts that the idea of dieing may be a more favorable option to the patient, given the burden they leave their family. The fear of a slightly lower quality of life is robbing people of their empathy
So to you we should make EVERYONE have not enough care to be rid of treatable illnesses just so ppl on the margins get a bit more? You forget it's THEIR money. They can spend it how they please. It's not for you to decide, or Obama, or Pelosi. In America we still have the freedom to have property and create wealth for ourselves. Why can't we create voluntary trust funds to help facilitate care for those who are in need? To me that would do better.
Great video. My company is moving out of the bay area so I'm losing my job, probably right after the stimulous package will pay 65% of my COBRA, but right when CA unemployment will reach its highest. ~ Fer
Bummer. I'm sorry about that. What if you dreamed big and for a moment, thought about making money at your life's passion? Just some food for thought. Good luck.
thank you. great post. Love the candid comments that are so heartfelt, honest, and so plain...true. Especially love the insight provided on socialized medicine. Fantastic. God Bless America.
thank you for posting this. this is so great. i mean all the stupid liberal media wont cover this. this is a great cause i agree with these people. the media needs to cover this, this is a democracy and the people dont want all this b.s.
None of this is going to stop. There isn't $1 trillion much less a trillion for medical care. And Obama is no different than King George or Clintonoid. And we are going to loose all our property rights next. We already lost Habeas Corpus and Posse Commitatus. 2 things even Joseph Smith had a right to. We have less rights than 13th C. Europeans before the Magna Carta. But who remembers....
IExposeMormonism 2 years ago
@IExposeMormonism The "it will cost one trillion" is part of the Republican and corporation's lie. They are speaking of the cost, as if the public will pay nothing, when in fact we are already spending more than that and will continue to pay for healthcare. The GOP lie is the the liberals think healthcare can be "free" when in fact, we're saying it can be had for less than we are now paying collectively.
Gulfporter 2 years ago
Gulfporter: if you believe the government can do anything more efficiently or for less money than by ppl who get up, go to work and attract willing buyers for services rendered, then I have some Greek Treasure bonds I'd like to sell you.
Z8nate 1 year ago
Good work, Nate. Interesting interviews.
vivaloriflamme 2 years ago
Great video.
I like that its showing just ordinary, real, everyday people who are upset over the financial mismanagement of our tax dollars by the federal government.
ConservativeSamizdat 2 years ago
Fark, I wish I could have gone, I would have totally OPEN CARRIED!
pullnshoot25 2 years ago
Great video, proud to say that I was there. This has got to make the rounds. The comments from people were outstanding!
rbsucks22 2 years ago
She doesn't want hr two little girls to pay an imaginary tax rate to support "socialist programs", but I'll bet that if those little girls need heroic measures to save their lives she expects the hospitals to do that regardless of her ability to pay.
National Single Payer is cheaper than what we are doing now. We're spending more and getting less than countries which have national single payer.
Gulfporter 2 years ago
Stop it with the mantra already, since when could the government do anything efficiently? Rationed care is the only way they can make it work and Canada survives with it because the truly desperate can cross the border for care they can't receive timely enough at their own hospitals. There's a reason why the French say "don't get sick in August." It's because the unionized health practitioners are all on vacation. I'm sorry, socialized medicine is too lame to work right.
Z8nate 2 years ago
That's a Parisian expression. It predates their national health service and is a backhanded way of saying that everyone who is anyone is not to be found in Paris in August.
Gulfporter 2 years ago
Government issued health care has not helped the French or Canadians in the examples I pointed out. It's triage care at best and immoral. I resent the idea of my health care decisions being taken away and appointments being treated like a court summons. Not to mention in the US we'd soon have affirmative action care, bringing down life expectancy for some in order to match others to be "fair." I trust government to be self serving not benevolent.
Z8nate 2 years ago
Damn right. Put yourself in the other persons position, those who cant pay. I could never understand how america's health system could be so screwed up
isuckatparkour 2 years ago
The laws of economics are as real as the laws of physics. You can't cheat them. Why should someone be compelled to pay for someone else's lunch, or healthcare? The truth is America has a safety net system. Is is perfect? no. Do people die in America because of supply and demand constraints on healthcare? yes. But no more tragically than any other western healthcare system in the world. EVERYONE dies in the end. The trick is to live a life your family would be proud of.
Z8nate 1 year ago
There is a difference between dieing from inadequate care than dieing from no care at all. The sum of money needed to pay for treatment of things like cancer, when presented to a single family for a single person, can be in such high amounts that the idea of dieing may be a more favorable option to the patient, given the burden they leave their family. The fear of a slightly lower quality of life is robbing people of their empathy
isuckatparkour 1 year ago
So to you we should make EVERYONE have not enough care to be rid of treatable illnesses just so ppl on the margins get a bit more? You forget it's THEIR money. They can spend it how they please. It's not for you to decide, or Obama, or Pelosi. In America we still have the freedom to have property and create wealth for ourselves. Why can't we create voluntary trust funds to help facilitate care for those who are in need? To me that would do better.
Z8nate 1 year ago
Yay for being in the video, but I won't say who I am
AnteaterCharger 2 years ago 2
Great video. My company is moving out of the bay area so I'm losing my job, probably right after the stimulous package will pay 65% of my COBRA, but right when CA unemployment will reach its highest. ~ Fer
RailbirdPictures 2 years ago
Bummer. I'm sorry about that. What if you dreamed big and for a moment, thought about making money at your life's passion? Just some food for thought. Good luck.
Z8nate 2 years ago
thank you. great post. Love the candid comments that are so heartfelt, honest, and so plain...true. Especially love the insight provided on socialized medicine. Fantastic. God Bless America.
melainsd 2 years ago
Thank you. Please feel free to tell others about this video. It is only as influential as the people who view it. Please spread the word.
Z8nate 2 years ago
thank you for posting this. this is so great. i mean all the stupid liberal media wont cover this. this is a great cause i agree with these people. the media needs to cover this, this is a democracy and the people dont want all this b.s.
pagboy529 2 years ago
taxation without representaion!!
ionrocket 2 years ago