Michael, I am so distraught over this in my state. I have sent emails to the Nuncio, nothing, who died the other day and sent emails to Unni and told him to disband this gay activist ministry and put courage in it's place. I called the Cardinal and nothing. What are we supposed to do? I have a loved one with this problem, how can I tell him the Catholic faith and have these heresies? This priest is pushing and promoting homosexuality. Help!
I used to be proud to call myself a Catholic. What is this world coming to? And how did God let this happen to his one true Church? Or, more accurately, how did WE let this happen??
I predicted most modern Christian and Catholic will bend over to welcome this gay lifestyle unfortunately. Most churches nowadays are dying as we speak.
Among all the more serious things that sadden me about the homosexual movement, there's one trivial item: They've co-opted one of my favorite symbols, the rainbow.
Jesus said to Padre Pio: "PRAY! MEN ARE RUNNING TOWARD THE ABYSS OF HELL in great rejoicing and merry-making, as though to a masquerade ball or the wedding feast of the devil himself. Assist Me in the salvation of souls. The measure of sin is filled! The day of revenge, with its terrifying happenings is near!--Nearer than you can imagine! And the world is sleeping in false security!
@36maxkolbe And why should the Catholics of China and North Korea (who are, in the main, good faithful people actively PERSECUTED by their governments yet still follow the commandments of Christ much more closely than us unpersecuted ones in the West) suffer with such terrible priests? Don't they have enough problems? Must we call for everything to be easy for us and those who already suffer to suffer more?
@RealCatholicTV Well my comment was to show your point. Instead of suffering for truth these priests & bishops give in. What do they know of suffering? Their actions are causing the faithful here to wonder away from the Church. Or better yet excommunicate! Is it going to take such persecution & martyrdom for the Church to become fully one again? Why is this allowed? Its killing me inside.
@36maxkolbe "Is it going to take such persecution & martyrdom for the Church to become fully one again?"
Of course - there can be no redemption without suffering. Be it red martyrdom or white martyrdom, there is no purification without suffering. Holiness comes through the Cross.
This isn't about the moral ethics of homosexuality as some people have mixed up in the comments. The Church's position is that of Scripture and of the Holy Church, the position that the Prophets and the Saints held. Christ's Holy Roman Catholic Church must keep His commandments if they are to remain so. Of course, homosexuality can be forgiven by confession and they can be reconciled through the Church by His mercy, but the Church has its position according to Scripture and tradition, not hatred
I noticed 2 things, the priest never spoke about welcoming these people in to Confession or avoiding mortal sin.I remember reading how Padre Pio chastised a woman for receiving Communion while having the unrepentant mortal sin of abortion on her soul. He was angry with her, "Do you know how serious a sin this is"?
What is the Church's teachings on receiving Jesus with mortal sin on your soul? & what sin is this priest & his Bishop committing if these ppl are living in sin and receiving Jesus?
It is sad that people, no matter what their proclivities, are looking around and asking "what is Truth? ", "is there such a thing as Truth?" and the bishops, cardinals, and priests are putting a premium on "a feeling of acceptance" rather than stating the Truth, and preaching that the God who created us, Who loves us beyond all measure, is the Truth, and wants us to strive for perfection with His help, not just a cozy feeling of pleasure and group acceptance, which is so temporary and empty.
1 Cor. 11:26-29, "For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes. 27 Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner, shall be guilty of the body and the blood of the Lord. 28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29 For he who eats and drinks, eats and drinks judgment to himself, if he does not judge the body rightly."
It's real sad to see that the church leadership has no faith Jesus Christ. For crying out loud, many of these priests, bishops and cardinals need catechism 101 all over again.
Through all of this cultural warfare taking place since Obama has taken office, I've yet to hear a single homily defending traditional marriage and the unborn. However, we always get the 'Merciful God' homily. Outrageous!
@Called2BeHoly The same way she helps ANYONE who sins; by offering the sacraments (most especially confession and the Eucharist). We must not think that homosexuals have an urge to sin which is different to anyone else's urge to sin; they are tempted to a different sin, but "murder is no better than cards if cards will do the trick" as Screwtape says.
It sadens me to see this young priest defending the indefensible as opossed to defending the dignity of our Lord. The gay mafia does not want to go to church, they want to destroy it.
Are homos exempt from the moral order? I thought sex outside of marriage was forbidden. Are homos allowed to do whatever they want and only straight Catholics are bound by the Church's commands? What if a person is compelled to have sex with sheep? Are we to accept him too?
@bammbamm12 Can we please try to use the word "homosexuals" or "gays"? Some people may think "homos" is offensive; it is a shortening of the correct term. It is obviously not as offensive as other terms, but some people might find it offensive.
To me when people use the terms homosexual or gay to identify themselves, what they are really saying is, I'm are living in mortal sin and this is my secular title. Can you continue to commit mortal sin and not be possessed by the devil or demons at some level? I guess it depends if you're sincere in repenting or if you repent at all.
Thanks for exposing this huge scandal. If we are not carefully blacks, Hispanics and single mothers may start showing up for mass. Only the chosen people like Michael Voris should receive the Mass. THE HORROR! NOT!
@kwrxxx Wow - the standard tactic; call the other side racist. Really?
There is nothing wrong with anyone coming to Mass; the objection is to those in the state of mortal sin receiving the Eucharist. And, yes - only those who have CHOSEN to FOLLOW CHRIST should receive at Mass. Those in a state of mortal sin (such as practicing homosexuals) should not. And Mass should not encourage people in their sin; it should encourage them to repent.
More U.S. dioceses need to speak about, promote, and support the Courage apostolate. This faithful Catholic group helps men and women struggling with ssa (same-sex attraction) live faithful lives. This is not easy, but thank the Lord such a group exists. Many people are able to deal with past hurts and such and adopt a heterosexual life. St. Cecilia's needs a transfusion!
@eventualdave I think that the cross of homosexuality is one of the heaviest crosses to bear.
To all those who struggle with 'SSA', please remember that as you struggle and fight to be chaste you are growing in holiness. I look at it this way: the harder and more successful you struggle, the more powerful your prayers become. Please pray for all us sinners and for God's Church!
@Globetrottahh No, I'll allow it - because it shows precisely the issue. You would deny us the opportunity to use YouTube to preach the beliefs of our religion? Certainly, you can petition a private organization (YouTube) to do such a thing (the First Ammendment does not apply to private organizations, nor does it guarantee a forum to speak) but I think it speaks volumes.
@Globetrottahh I can understand someone not wanting something against their beliefs associated with their video (approving comments, which is what we do) but to seek to deny anyone the opportunity to speak AT ALL on YouTube? That is something we would never do - yet it seems the side encouraging diversity and open-mindedness would do such a thing.
Let YouTube remove this video; can you imagine the positive coverage we'd get?
Thank you, oh random Globetrottahh. Your trottighh is valuable!
This diocese in Boston with approval of the Bishop is saying Sodomy is o.k. We know as faithful catholics it's not o.k. There was a time when sodomy was a criminal offense. However, I noticed that the liberal wing of the Church uses a syrupy type language where they don't say sodomy is right but rather say we have to accept people and be inclusive. I know what is right because the church clearly teaches it and sodomy is a mortal sin and deserving of Hell. In charity we must tell the truth.
@8bluestone Hence the Fatima prayer - Oh my Jesus forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell, lead all souls to heaven, especially those in most need of thy mercy - these words become more powerful everyday!
The explanation is that many in the priesthood and hierarchy are seeking to justify their own sins by justifying those same sins in others. They are part of the problem pretending to offer a solution hoping and believing that one day the Church itself will officially condone homosexual activiity as the Anglicans in the US have done.
Apostasy--the great falling away--Our Lady of LaSallete, pray for us! She saw the bishops walking with' just vapors' where their heads should be. . .what comes apon us now was foretold and isn't going to be pretty. . .schism, the CHURCH remnant vs the ANTICHURCH . We know how the story ends. . .
I rate this video a 10, since I can't rate on this video I'll rate it myself 10. Sick, sick, sick, and to think that these sickos have no desire to slow there attack on the world. They have so much power at this time that it is scary. They even have the support of our so called "pastors" who are supposed to protect the Church Militant from such attacks. Instead they invite the enemy right in, give them the first seats, and give them a home to prey on the weak that are sitting in the pews. Sick.
They're people too, I hope you all know. What makes you think you are right? Doesn't the Bible teach acceptance and love? Where does it say "call people evil and judge them like you are God"?
@kirtusA Where do we say we hate anyone & where do we call anyone evil? We judge ACTIONS & these actions are gravely sinful & will lead people to Hell unless they are repented off. That is the issue here; these actions will harm these people. We are trying to help these people by encouraging them not to sin; if we did nothing then how would that be loving?
The Bible teaches love. As for acceptance, it depends what you mean. It doesn't teach approval of sin.
@kirtusA The Lord warned more about damnation and urged people to repent and to change their lives. "Go and SIN NO MORE". Where is that ultra-liberal and perverted idea of "acceptance" that you espouse in the Gospel? Do you people even seriously read the Bible?
@kirtusA Judging a persons actions are not the same as judging their eternal destiny. The homosexual act is evil. To engage in the homosexual act is choosing to do evil. The wages of sin is death! Death, both physically and spiritually. It is an act of love on my part to point out to my brother homosexual how grave his continued choice to commit evil is.
Repulsive subject matter but excellent presentation of it as usual.
Why was O'Malley charged with "investigating" the Archdiocese of Dublin and why was Dolan (who has pulled similar shenanigans when it comes to gay propaganda) charged with "investigating" the Irish seminaries? They refuse to clean up their own dioceses - so how can they clean up Ireland?
Why do the problem bishops continually get assigned to "clean up" the messes that look so similar to the ones they create?
@RealCatholicTV I see your point. Also, about that 'gay Mass', was it promoting the homosexual lifestyle, or simply to help those with SSA to be chaste? :\
@assasincomedy I don't know about promoting, but it was certainly condoning and was not encouraging the abandonment of it and the embracing of chastity.
Thank you for this video. I really don't know what else to say except that I am utterly dismayed at how this can happen with no response from the Vatican. Shocked, would be more like it...
@s216674 Agreed. Where is the Vatican on this issue? Since when does the Church *celebrate* sin??? It seems to me that the Vatican should come down hard on this because a "gay mass" leaves the impression that homosexuality is totally fine. How many souls are suffering as a result?
Michael, I am so distraught over this in my state. I have sent emails to the Nuncio, nothing, who died the other day and sent emails to Unni and told him to disband this gay activist ministry and put courage in it's place. I called the Cardinal and nothing. What are we supposed to do? I have a loved one with this problem, how can I tell him the Catholic faith and have these heresies? This priest is pushing and promoting homosexuality. Help!
FNDTTruth3 7 months ago
I used to be proud to call myself a Catholic. What is this world coming to? And how did God let this happen to his one true Church? Or, more accurately, how did WE let this happen??
ScaredAndAngry 7 months ago
I predicted most modern Christian and Catholic will bend over to welcome this gay lifestyle unfortunately. Most churches nowadays are dying as we speak.
burbano860 7 months ago
Unbelievable!!!
abctijo 7 months ago
@Called2BeHoly There's a Catholic organization called Courage which does exactly what you are asking.
scragsma 7 months ago
Among all the more serious things that sadden me about the homosexual movement, there's one trivial item: They've co-opted one of my favorite symbols, the rainbow.
scragsma 7 months ago
@scragsma Yes. Thanks to this small yet vocal minority and their elite backers we have lost the use of the words 'gay' and 'queer'.
Now I get suspicious whenever a business or organization uses a rainbow anywhere in their signage, advertizements, logos, or in stores.
mottledbrain 7 months ago
Jesus said to Padre Pio: "PRAY! MEN ARE RUNNING TOWARD THE ABYSS OF HELL in great rejoicing and merry-making, as though to a masquerade ball or the wedding feast of the devil himself. Assist Me in the salvation of souls. The measure of sin is filled! The day of revenge, with its terrifying happenings is near!--Nearer than you can imagine! And the world is sleeping in false security!
ITrustInJesus100 7 months ago
Send the priest to China or North Korea and all weak bishops who do nothing to stop this!
36maxkolbe 7 months ago
@36maxkolbe And why should the Catholics of China and North Korea (who are, in the main, good faithful people actively PERSECUTED by their governments yet still follow the commandments of Christ much more closely than us unpersecuted ones in the West) suffer with such terrible priests? Don't they have enough problems? Must we call for everything to be easy for us and those who already suffer to suffer more?
RealCatholicTV 7 months ago
@RealCatholicTV Well my comment was to show your point. Instead of suffering for truth these priests & bishops give in. What do they know of suffering? Their actions are causing the faithful here to wonder away from the Church. Or better yet excommunicate! Is it going to take such persecution & martyrdom for the Church to become fully one again? Why is this allowed? Its killing me inside.
36maxkolbe 7 months ago
@36maxkolbe "Is it going to take such persecution & martyrdom for the Church to become fully one again?"
Of course - there can be no redemption without suffering. Be it red martyrdom or white martyrdom, there is no purification without suffering. Holiness comes through the Cross.
RealCatholicTV 7 months ago
@RealCatholicTV And that is what i am missing. The Cross yes! With all that is going on I have forgotten the Cross. Thank You for the reminder!
36maxkolbe 7 months ago
This isn't about the moral ethics of homosexuality as some people have mixed up in the comments. The Church's position is that of Scripture and of the Holy Church, the position that the Prophets and the Saints held. Christ's Holy Roman Catholic Church must keep His commandments if they are to remain so. Of course, homosexuality can be forgiven by confession and they can be reconciled through the Church by His mercy, but the Church has its position according to Scripture and tradition, not hatred
SleepingSun27 7 months ago
I noticed 2 things, the priest never spoke about welcoming these people in to Confession or avoiding mortal sin.I remember reading how Padre Pio chastised a woman for receiving Communion while having the unrepentant mortal sin of abortion on her soul. He was angry with her, "Do you know how serious a sin this is"?
What is the Church's teachings on receiving Jesus with mortal sin on your soul? & what sin is this priest & his Bishop committing if these ppl are living in sin and receiving Jesus?
icimblind 7 months ago
It is sad that people, no matter what their proclivities, are looking around and asking "what is Truth? ", "is there such a thing as Truth?" and the bishops, cardinals, and priests are putting a premium on "a feeling of acceptance" rather than stating the Truth, and preaching that the God who created us, Who loves us beyond all measure, is the Truth, and wants us to strive for perfection with His help, not just a cozy feeling of pleasure and group acceptance, which is so temporary and empty.
harrismo49 7 months ago
If you go to Communion in a state of Mortal Sin, you bring not Life but DEATH unto yourself... REPENT!!!
Yankeegator 7 months ago
1 Cor. 11:26-29, "For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes. 27 Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner, shall be guilty of the body and the blood of the Lord. 28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29 For he who eats and drinks, eats and drinks judgment to himself, if he does not judge the body rightly."
Yankeegator 7 months ago
It's real sad to see that the church leadership has no faith Jesus Christ. For crying out loud, many of these priests, bishops and cardinals need catechism 101 all over again.
Through all of this cultural warfare taking place since Obama has taken office, I've yet to hear a single homily defending traditional marriage and the unborn. However, we always get the 'Merciful God' homily. Outrageous!
voorman1 7 months ago
Thank you all from the RealCatholicTV
Amen to your spoken words.
FIDESetRATIOihtys 7 months ago
@Called2BeHoly The same way she helps ANYONE who sins; by offering the sacraments (most especially confession and the Eucharist). We must not think that homosexuals have an urge to sin which is different to anyone else's urge to sin; they are tempted to a different sin, but "murder is no better than cards if cards will do the trick" as Screwtape says.
RealCatholicTV 7 months ago
It sadens me to see this young priest defending the indefensible as opossed to defending the dignity of our Lord. The gay mafia does not want to go to church, they want to destroy it.
kurmx 7 months ago
Are homos exempt from the moral order? I thought sex outside of marriage was forbidden. Are homos allowed to do whatever they want and only straight Catholics are bound by the Church's commands? What if a person is compelled to have sex with sheep? Are we to accept him too?
bammbamm12 7 months ago
@bammbamm12 Can we please try to use the word "homosexuals" or "gays"? Some people may think "homos" is offensive; it is a shortening of the correct term. It is obviously not as offensive as other terms, but some people might find it offensive.
But, good comment :)
RealCatholicTV 7 months ago
@RealCatholicTV
To me when people use the terms homosexual or gay to identify themselves, what they are really saying is, I'm are living in mortal sin and this is my secular title. Can you continue to commit mortal sin and not be possessed by the devil or demons at some level? I guess it depends if you're sincere in repenting or if you repent at all.
icimblind 7 months ago
@RealCatholicTV - Sorry man, I'll work on it - I'm still trying to shake off the word "queer" :)
bammbamm12 7 months ago
What next..A mass to celebrate "practicing "abortionists? May Jesus in his love and mercy help his faithful against the evils within the church.
MrsTricia6 7 months ago
Thanks for exposing this huge scandal. If we are not carefully blacks, Hispanics and single mothers may start showing up for mass. Only the chosen people like Michael Voris should receive the Mass. THE HORROR! NOT!
kwrxxx 7 months ago
@kwrxxx Wow - the standard tactic; call the other side racist. Really?
There is nothing wrong with anyone coming to Mass; the objection is to those in the state of mortal sin receiving the Eucharist. And, yes - only those who have CHOSEN to FOLLOW CHRIST should receive at Mass. Those in a state of mortal sin (such as practicing homosexuals) should not. And Mass should not encourage people in their sin; it should encourage them to repent.
RealCatholicTV 7 months ago
More U.S. dioceses need to speak about, promote, and support the Courage apostolate. This faithful Catholic group helps men and women struggling with ssa (same-sex attraction) live faithful lives. This is not easy, but thank the Lord such a group exists. Many people are able to deal with past hurts and such and adopt a heterosexual life. St. Cecilia's needs a transfusion!
pwthcim 7 months ago
@Great8Earthquake Actually, there are legal cases right now from polygamists.
RealCatholicTV 7 months ago
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eventualdave 7 months ago
@eventualdave See our video "Catholic and Homosexual"
RealCatholicTV 7 months ago
@eventualdave ...Agreed and Amen my friend.
creatornat 7 months ago
@eventualdave I think that the cross of homosexuality is one of the heaviest crosses to bear.
To all those who struggle with 'SSA', please remember that as you struggle and fight to be chaste you are growing in holiness. I look at it this way: the harder and more successful you struggle, the more powerful your prayers become. Please pray for all us sinners and for God's Church!
mottledbrain 7 months ago
Reported for hate against sexuallity. You wont allow anyway this comment because you'll be mad
Globetrottahh 7 months ago
@Globetrottahh No, I'll allow it - because it shows precisely the issue. You would deny us the opportunity to use YouTube to preach the beliefs of our religion? Certainly, you can petition a private organization (YouTube) to do such a thing (the First Ammendment does not apply to private organizations, nor does it guarantee a forum to speak) but I think it speaks volumes.
RealCatholicTV 7 months ago
@Globetrottahh I can understand someone not wanting something against their beliefs associated with their video (approving comments, which is what we do) but to seek to deny anyone the opportunity to speak AT ALL on YouTube? That is something we would never do - yet it seems the side encouraging diversity and open-mindedness would do such a thing.
Let YouTube remove this video; can you imagine the positive coverage we'd get?
Thank you, oh random Globetrottahh. Your trottighh is valuable!
RealCatholicTV 7 months ago
God didn't accept them at Sodom did he Fr. John?
I don't think he sent any rainbows there.
sue200012 8 months ago
This diocese in Boston with approval of the Bishop is saying Sodomy is o.k. We know as faithful catholics it's not o.k. There was a time when sodomy was a criminal offense. However, I noticed that the liberal wing of the Church uses a syrupy type language where they don't say sodomy is right but rather say we have to accept people and be inclusive. I know what is right because the church clearly teaches it and sodomy is a mortal sin and deserving of Hell. In charity we must tell the truth.
modomnoc1010 8 months ago
The Fatima message warned us of the following.A “diabolical disorientation” will permeate the Church.
Multitudes of churchmen—religious, priests, bishops, cardinals—will fall away from the Catholic Faith.
Multitudes of Catholic faithful will be lead into apostasy (and hell) because of blind obedience to false shepherds.
Need I say more....God Bless
8bluestone 8 months ago
@8bluestone Hence the Fatima prayer - Oh my Jesus forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell, lead all souls to heaven, especially those in most need of thy mercy - these words become more powerful everyday!
Lukemuse 7 months ago
Minute 2:05 Nobody is excluded from the table??? 1 Cor 11, 27.
AFhobbie 8 months ago
The explanation is that many in the priesthood and hierarchy are seeking to justify their own sins by justifying those same sins in others. They are part of the problem pretending to offer a solution hoping and believing that one day the Church itself will officially condone homosexual activiity as the Anglicans in the US have done.
Estaban333 8 months ago
Apostasy--the great falling away--Our Lady of LaSallete, pray for us! She saw the bishops walking with' just vapors' where their heads should be. . .what comes apon us now was foretold and isn't going to be pretty. . .schism, the CHURCH remnant vs the ANTICHURCH . We know how the story ends. . .
GriffinElliot 8 months ago
I rate this video a 10, since I can't rate on this video I'll rate it myself 10. Sick, sick, sick, and to think that these sickos have no desire to slow there attack on the world. They have so much power at this time that it is scary. They even have the support of our so called "pastors" who are supposed to protect the Church Militant from such attacks. Instead they invite the enemy right in, give them the first seats, and give them a home to prey on the weak that are sitting in the pews. Sick.
unclebg1 8 months ago
They're people too, I hope you all know. What makes you think you are right? Doesn't the Bible teach acceptance and love? Where does it say "call people evil and judge them like you are God"?
kirtusA 8 months ago
@kirtusA Where do we say we hate anyone & where do we call anyone evil? We judge ACTIONS & these actions are gravely sinful & will lead people to Hell unless they are repented off. That is the issue here; these actions will harm these people. We are trying to help these people by encouraging them not to sin; if we did nothing then how would that be loving?
The Bible teaches love. As for acceptance, it depends what you mean. It doesn't teach approval of sin.
RealCatholicTV 8 months ago
@kirtusA The Lord warned more about damnation and urged people to repent and to change their lives. "Go and SIN NO MORE". Where is that ultra-liberal and perverted idea of "acceptance" that you espouse in the Gospel? Do you people even seriously read the Bible?
Shlomayo 8 months ago
@kirtusA Judging a persons actions are not the same as judging their eternal destiny. The homosexual act is evil. To engage in the homosexual act is choosing to do evil. The wages of sin is death! Death, both physically and spiritually. It is an act of love on my part to point out to my brother homosexual how grave his continued choice to commit evil is.
youdrivethedeal 7 months ago
Repulsive subject matter but excellent presentation of it as usual.
Why was O'Malley charged with "investigating" the Archdiocese of Dublin and why was Dolan (who has pulled similar shenanigans when it comes to gay propaganda) charged with "investigating" the Irish seminaries? They refuse to clean up their own dioceses - so how can they clean up Ireland?
Why do the problem bishops continually get assigned to "clean up" the messes that look so similar to the ones they create?
1600ny 8 months ago
From Massachusetts, disgusting!
CatholicTraditional 8 months ago
I guess getting crowned with thorns once wasn't enough, it had to be done again and in His own church no less.
gorgondie 8 months ago
If we do speak up, won't we be heavily persecuted?
assasincomedy 8 months ago
@assasincomedy And? We can join the majority of Christians, historically and geographically.
RealCatholicTV 8 months ago
@RealCatholicTV I see your point. Also, about that 'gay Mass', was it promoting the homosexual lifestyle, or simply to help those with SSA to be chaste? :\
assasincomedy 7 months ago
@assasincomedy I don't know about promoting, but it was certainly condoning and was not encouraging the abandonment of it and the embracing of chastity.
RealCatholicTV 7 months ago
Thank you for this video. I really don't know what else to say except that I am utterly dismayed at how this can happen with no response from the Vatican. Shocked, would be more like it...
s216674 8 months ago
@s216674 Agreed. Where is the Vatican on this issue? Since when does the Church *celebrate* sin??? It seems to me that the Vatican should come down hard on this because a "gay mass" leaves the impression that homosexuality is totally fine. How many souls are suffering as a result?
mommybear4mybabies 7 months ago
How telling is it that none of these people go to Mass any day of the year.Only when they are to celebrate their sexual activities.
DustyAndPistolPete 8 months ago