@TheQualifiedCritic A truly qualified critic, as you claim to be, wouldn't discount a person's MUSICAL LIFE'S WORK on the base of Coltrane being a fraud and thief. Why is it that when you like the musician, it's called "drawing inspiration from" (insert your own rational here), but when it's someone you don't like, they're "stealing" music? It's the same as if I said someone stole the beats they made on fruity loops from Africa... I'm sorry it took you 40 years to learn that.
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@crackabottlebeach64 they're not stupid, buddy. The pianOracle understands, they are tone deaf. They are upset about the sheet music; not @ the music they can't hear!
jazz chords are hard. I ve always played rock and blues and now I moved to jazz and its kinda hard at the beginning till you get all those fingerings in time.
in the time that will take to someone to learn playing that solo, John Coltrane will come back from the dead, will look at his written solo and after 5 minuets he will play the whole tune twice as faster backwards.
you know, this video shows the genius of Coltrane, but it's also a great educational tool to show to young students about what improv is. Good job with the video dude. i'll have to watch all the other ones
To be fair to Flanagan, I don´t think he had much time to practice this. He probably saw in the studio for the first time. This was ground breaking stuff.
Who ever made this video!!! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU....*breaking out and dusting off my alto saxophone* lol im soo serious tho... im finna learn this!
my lord what is this filth. i could fart out better music than this. horrible, just horrible. im going to return to my phil collins records now, you know, some REAL music.
@1bol1 pfft dream theater, what a load of wank-a-doodle-do. if i wanted to listen to some guy jerk off over progressive ideas id listen to fripp and king crimson with a spew bucket close at hand. if i want to listen to a bunch of leather clad trannies spewing out jolty, non rhythmic time signatures with no groove id listen to drem theatre with a gun to my head pulling the trigger as soon as that eunuchs pretentious vocals drop in.
@TheQualifiedCritic oh you're that kind. The narrow minded kind that in reality doesen't know anything about music at all. pfft "non rhythmic time signatures with no groove". Shows how much you know. Did you even check out Symphony X? I bet you didn't because you expect it to be thesame. What will you say next? that mozart was a mediocre?
@shimeonmorpheus it dosent matter how many views i give it or how many fake accounts i start to thumb it down whats done is done and people need to know the truth that coltrane was a thief and a fraud.
@shimeonmorpheus im glad you recognize the fact that you are not qualified to comment on the subject. smart man. smarter than your obnoxiously boring name implies.
@TheQualifiedCritic well thank your for your compliment, is my name really that boring? well we are not all as lucky as you to be gifted with the talent of inventing pseudonyms, well anyway, thank you for your constructive criticism. have a good day!
@TheQualifiedCritic you have not actually proven your point that coltrane stole from joplin. you might be right, but your analysis is not thorough, it lacks specificity. your thesis is significant and should involve more detail,
@TheQualifiedCritic Er. No. Using the same logic Joplin stole off Chopin, and Chopin stole off Liszt, and Liszt stole off Beethoven, and Beethoven stole off Bach, and Bach stole off Palestrina, and we all "stole our ideas" from an ape who first learnt to start banging on a drum. The search for origins is the chief preoccupation of a feeble mind. Try looking at what Coltrane ADDS to jazz instead.
I really doubt that Coltrane called someone a fool just cause he decided not to struggle with the changes for a difference. Especially a pianist. I really really doubt that! :P
Bmaj7 D7 Gmaj7 Bb7 Ebmaj7 Am7 D7 Gmaj7 Bb7 Ebmaj7 F#7 Bmaj7 Fm7 Bb7 Ebmaj7 Am7 D7 Gmaj7 C#m7 F#7 Bmaj7 Fm7 Bb7 Ebmaj7 C#m7 F#7, I disagree strongly with the sentiment that he 'messed up' in the piano solo. Why? Because he stops playing? Or because he holds a whole note?!?!? A solo doesn't have to be a ton of notes!!! It can pull back...
@calico992 I will be the first one to agree that a solo need not be straight eighth notes throughout. But please don't do Tommy Flanagan the dishonour of defending his solo; the guy was so embarrassed by it that he went on to re-record the song at a faster tempo later. He had to _earn_ that solo. The fact that he happened to cheese it on one of the most incredible bebop recordings of all time is rather unfortunate, but just because it's a great work overall doesn't mean he's immune.
@mvute@jimFrobel He (Tommy Flanagan) sort of trickled off at the end of his solo. He's having a tough time keeping up with such weird chord changes and improvising, so he just starts to play the chords. But let's give the guy a break. Flanagan was no slouch and all of this material was brand new to him
@jimFrobel That was a very unique tune at the time and they did not have much rehearsal. Very few musicians event today would be able to improvise over those changes on first sight. Coltrane had been working on the changes for months.
@jimFrobel i think what you are hearing at 3:39 to 3:53 is a minor 7th which is by no means "losing it", actually using that as a transition to Bb from C is an amazing idea and one of the greater concepts as for as jazz piano is concerned of its time. you should consider yourself lucky to be able to hear such an amazing piece of art rather then complaining about it. just sit back and listen.
@mastermeh5252 It's frustrating to me that so many people so zealously came to the defense of Flanagan in this. I just posted that comment cause it's one legend surrounding this piece. The reality is, from _any_ objective standpoint, Flanagan cheesed it. But *that's ok*. If anything, it makes this more valuable: Coltrane's solo probably wouldn't mean nearly as much if it wasn't juxtaposed with Flanagan's cheese. And it speaks to the very nature of jazz itself: you can't be perfect all the time.
@jimFrobel Fool Alert! Coltrane's solo would have been as grandiose even greater if you had put Art Tatum on the keys. 1st off, Tatum composed the piece based on a concepts and patterns that a friend (Yusef) had shared with him. 2nd, Piano and Sax are 2 completely differently interpreted instruments, thus making the cheese in one's solo COMPLETELY irrelevant to the other's solo (see Summertime, where Tyner owns the piano sol basically throughout). *the pianOracle has spoken.
@jimFrobel 3rd, Flanagan was most likely hit by the "oh shit" effect, as Coltrane was known 4 just showing up to gigs w/out rehearsal & putting music in front of artists. Drums had it good; sucked for piano.. Maybe Flanagan would have done fine, except for a previously never seen pattern of chords thrown in his face just a few minutes before a recording. I'm not defending Flanagan, as I still personally think he sucks for not having tried harder and been so technical w/ his improv.
@jimFrobel Good Joke, but keep in mind there was no pianist at the time who was familiarized with playing Coltrane changes at such a speed. Poor Flanagan did his best, being a great pianist himself... But yeah, everytime I heard this tune at the piano solo, im waiting for John to end his cigar and restart his solo
@jimFrobel you should read the story behind the incident at the recording involving the pianist. Apparently, when he practiced the song before recording, he thought the tempo was that of a ballad. Needless to say when they started recording he probably had a heart attack. Decades later the pianist re-recorded the song just so he could vindicate himself. I think his name is Tommy Flanagan
@iyequertu54 Yep, that was Flanagan. And you're right about the legend. and the re-visit. Flanagan probably had to live with the scar of this recording for the rest of his life...poor guy ><. If he had nailed that solo, he probably would be a household name like Coltrane today.
@jimFrobel i guess it was hard for the pianist to challenge this tune without preparation - after the first recording flanagan proved that he can play this tune very well ;)
@mazaunschirm You are absolutely right; Coltrane brought this to the studio with no rehearsal! And you are also correct; Flanagan would re-visit this tune later, taking it at a faster tempo, and nailing the solo.
@jimFrobel The pianOracle sure realized that jazz piano solo FAIL. In dude's defense, those who know how Coltrane would do, know he was notorious for throwing sheet music right in front of qualified musicians whom he chose to work with due to their ability to improvise well on the spot. If you play any instrument, imagine being thrown this revolutionary set of chords 5 mins before your gig w/out prior practice and asked to improve over it on the actual record on the 1st take!
@SexyBeast1332 Too bad that complexity of harmonic structure has nothing to do with the songs actual quality.I'm not trying to start an argument here,but I must say that I'm really disappointed after hearing this composition.Especially 'cause every jazz fan(and some of them have degrees in jazz composition) told me how "great" it is and how revolutionary it was for jazz music back in the day.Anyways,have fun!Cheers:)
@Beenyad ...and I'm sorry for that.I was just stating my opinion,that's all.And,FYI,I didn't hit the dislike button.Actually,I can't remember the last time I did that.Cheers:)
This is pretty cool. I do kind of wish the camera were stationary and the notes would pour out on the page...but that may just be my preference. Nice job.
@geoffreybeene that's what my friend just told me but i still don't know why it sounds like that. like what is happening? (i understand theory btw also)
@nappyroots89 probably because you are listening to either bebop or hard bop. there are others like swing, funk, blues, and so on, that do not sound like "a mass of notes" However, as geoffretbeene said, the more you listen to it, the better it gets, and you start to feel each notes and rhythms, and it fets much, MUCH better
the same way Shakespeare sounds Greek to the casual listener. you have to understand the foundations of an art to better approach the heights of an art.
If anyone actually wants to learn how this song is constructed, the short answer is that it's kinda in 4 keys at once. There's lots of good web pages and Youtube videos that go into way more detail.
@ZeppelinRules - This transcription is transposed from the version I have which has three chordal centers a major third apart (B, Eb and G). It's not in 4 keys at once, although the "sheet of sound" Coltrane created may give that impression at times. ii- V7- I applied to above keys, and the solos operate in the upper structures of the chords for the most part.
this is my first time seeing animated sheet music, and under the influence of marijuana and this song it cracked me up. dont know why but i look at the chords and giggle.
@nish147 Its awesome they didnt even rehearse or anything John gave them the chart in the recording studio and they took a few takes and published the best one....Amazing. Justin Dicioccio told me that the reason for the piano players breaks in his solo is because the chord changes are so fast and they have no relationship with eachother.
@MrHeavanell I think he means jazz players are autistic in that their hands just randomly spaz out while they are playing, that is what it sounds like I guess but in a good way, Coltrane does play really fast
@RobBrooksMusic I know but you said what does he mean, I guess before I liked listening to this kind of music it did sound like a load of nonsense being randomly played
@Redeye1524 Yep. I COULD learn it note for note, but that still doesn't mean that I would have the same understanding of the music. Just a talented parrot.
These chords are sick. It's just substitutions on top of subs in Coltrane's signature key changes (in thirds instead of usual fourths n fifths). Awesome!
Learned the whole song with this animation. I'm applying to berklee college of music this year for guitar and just wanted to know if anybody familiar with the college's standards can tell me if you think playing this song in the audition is good enough to get in? Pls somebody answer
@49591994 this is one of coltrane's classics. However, I'd say if you're auditioning on guitar, and you have the opportunity to do another song in addition, I'd say go with a classic standard that you know that EVERYONE knows. you know? just for the familiarity. When I auditioned for Jazz voice to Cornish college of the arts, I did Cry Me A River. And I got in, so yeah! :D
@tOtAlLyInLoVeWiThEd hey do you currently go to cornish? I'm about to apply there for bass and it'd be nice if you can give me some pointers on the audition process.
i picture the guy doing the piano solo as a robot with smoke coming out of it and nuts and bolts flying off and falling apart trying to keep up with him
I quite like that someone's done this, but it's pedagogically useless. Supposing that I wanted to learn Coltrane's solo in Giant Steps, I would need the hard copy transcription of it plus the CD or a digital file that I could stop and playback with total precision on a bar-by-bar basis, which is not the case with this video.
@lexo30: Or, transcribe it yourself. The exercise in the process would get you much more familiar with the tune and the solo than merely learning someone else's transcription. Here's a hint: the tonal centers are B, Eb, and G (major 3rds apart) with their respective ii - V7 - I chords. Use the upper structure triads to solo over. Add genius and stir.
@donnellobrien Good idea. I actually have the Aebersold book about learning Giant Steps (I know that applying the Aebersold method to Coltrane is a bit stupid but what can I say, I don't have any other access to tuition) so I already know the chords. But I might just have a go at transcribing it into Sibelius. Thanks for the tip.
@shimeonmorpheus - Hello~ it is a tune based on three chordal centers a major third apart: B, Eb and G with ii-V7s to each.The opening melody, interestingly, outlines a G major 7th chord (F#, D, B, G), then repeats the sequence with an Eb Major seventh (D, Bb, G, Eb). In order to return to the beginning of the melody, Coltrane expresses part of the sequence (Mi, Re, Sol in Eb; Mi Re Sol in G; Mi Re Sol in B; Mi, Mi, Sol in Eb. Sol, Sol in B. I never get tired of this tune.
@shimeonmorpheus@shimeonmorpheus agree ,just wanted to add that the idea of a chord progression is to return to the original tonal center, Rock n roll songs usually have only one tonal center.More traditional jazz "standards" cycle through tonal centers based on cycle of fifths(Sweet Georgia Brown)or half steps(So What)but Coltrane was revolutionary in dividing up the octave into 3 equal parts(tonal ctrs exactly a major fifth apart).Another ex. is "Have You Met Miss Jones"
@shimeonmorpheus agree ,just wanted to add that the idea of a chord progression is to return to the original tonal center, Rock n roll songs usually have only one tonal center.More traditional jazz "standards" cycle through tonal centers based on cycle of fifths(Sweet Georgia Brown)or half steps(So What)but Coltrane was revolutionary in dividing up the octave into 3 equal parts(tonal ctrs exactly a major third apart).Another ex. is "Have You Met Miss Jones"
"Sometimes I wish I could walk up to my music as if for the first time, as if I had never heard it before. Being so inescapably a part of it, I'll never know what the listener gets, what the listener feels, and that's too bad." - John Coltrane
Rejoice!
Draples 2 days ago
Am I the only one who thinks the piano solo is awesome because I don't understand jazz and I have no idea what he's doing?
homework178 4 days ago
it became impossible at one point
0live0wire0 6 days ago
380 bpm, WHA DA FAW
tydogboy0906 6 days ago
what's such a big deal about a half step move for a solo? jethro tull even does that...
daddysevenpointfiver 1 week ago
Very interesting way to display the sheet music, great job man! :)
Gotta love that classic jazz
natehwhite 1 week ago
HOLY CRAP MOTHER OF GOD ! GOD DAMN IT I WANNA BE COLTRANE !
FunnyCorpNN 1 week ago
Actually, I was always so grateful for the piano solo because it gave my brain a chance to rest. Kind of like the eye of a hurricane.
howbalt 1 week ago
@TheQualifiedCritic A truly qualified critic, as you claim to be, wouldn't discount a person's MUSICAL LIFE'S WORK on the base of Coltrane being a fraud and thief. Why is it that when you like the musician, it's called "drawing inspiration from" (insert your own rational here), but when it's someone you don't like, they're "stealing" music? It's the same as if I said someone stole the beats they made on fruity loops from Africa... I'm sorry it took you 40 years to learn that.
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Mikster7500 1 week ago
it's sad what music has been reduced to. Jazz Soul R and B Funk Disco.
bmaloy9 1 week ago
130 stupid stupid stupid people
crackabottlebeach64 2 weeks ago
@crackabottlebeach64 they're not stupid, buddy. The pianOracle understands, they are tone deaf. They are upset about the sheet music; not @ the music they can't hear!
pianOracle 1 week ago
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annobert 2 weeks ago
just realized why its called giant steps
shimeonmorpheus 3 weeks ago
If you can find a better sax man please let me know.(I don't think U can find one).
WonderfulWil1 3 weeks ago
que buen trabajo!!! felicitaciones!!!!! y gracias
jcmatu 3 weeks ago in playlist YouTube Mix for John Coltrane
0:36 impossible, hahahah
loombaron 3 weeks ago
thumbs up if you recognized the cadenza @ the begining from john coltrane's cousin mary.
Jenesepasvous 4 weeks ago
just learned the guitar chords to this. DAMN hard song. I love John Coltrane!
NACHOTHEIST 1 month ago
jazz chords are hard. I ve always played rock and blues and now I moved to jazz and its kinda hard at the beginning till you get all those fingerings in time.
loombaron 3 weeks ago
in the time that will take to someone to learn playing that solo, John Coltrane will come back from the dead, will look at his written solo and after 5 minuets he will play the whole tune twice as faster backwards.
such a shame he died so young.
nadav20000 1 month ago in playlist More videos from dancohen
you know, this video shows the genius of Coltrane, but it's also a great educational tool to show to young students about what improv is. Good job with the video dude. i'll have to watch all the other ones
inf1nity 1 month ago
@inf1nity exactly cant wait to pick this apart and watch the others.
demejiuk 1 month ago
piano solo looks amazing! so fast.
4tothepowerofcheese 1 month ago
"If you try to play along" pbbt ok there champ :P
utoob4227 1 month ago
To be fair to Flanagan, I don´t think he had much time to practice this. He probably saw in the studio for the first time. This was ground breaking stuff.
espcomics 1 month ago
Poor McCoy...only written as "Piano Solo".
kajikooo 1 month ago
I can't even mentally keep up with that! :L
eoinm96 1 month ago
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eoinm96 1 month ago
And then there was Coltrane...
mdklive 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
Who ever made this video!!! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU....*breaking out and dusting off my alto saxophone* lol im soo serious tho... im finna learn this!
125snipper 1 month ago in playlist Music
una bestialidaaaaad!!!!!
facetti 1 month ago
i love this song. I'm only 20 and i liek this kind of music and i like funk
bmaloy9 1 month ago
@bmaloy9 well good for you now why dont you get some REAL taste in music you trendy.
TheQualifiedCritic 1 month ago
my lord what is this filth. i could fart out better music than this. horrible, just horrible. im going to return to my phil collins records now, you know, some REAL music.
TheQualifiedCritic 1 month ago
@TheQualifiedCritic
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I don't know if you're trolling or just incredibly stupid.
DjPyro44 1 month ago
@DjPyro44 uh, i am a pro critic of 40+ years experience in the industry.so i guess that makes YOU the troll!
TheQualifiedCritic 1 month ago
@TheQualifiedCritic LOL. You probably never heard about Symphony X or Dream theater if you think Phill collins is a genious
1bol1 1 month ago
@1bol1 pfft dream theater, what a load of wank-a-doodle-do. if i wanted to listen to some guy jerk off over progressive ideas id listen to fripp and king crimson with a spew bucket close at hand. if i want to listen to a bunch of leather clad trannies spewing out jolty, non rhythmic time signatures with no groove id listen to drem theatre with a gun to my head pulling the trigger as soon as that eunuchs pretentious vocals drop in.
TheQualifiedCritic 1 month ago
@TheQualifiedCritic oh you're that kind. The narrow minded kind that in reality doesen't know anything about music at all. pfft "non rhythmic time signatures with no groove". Shows how much you know. Did you even check out Symphony X? I bet you didn't because you expect it to be thesame. What will you say next? that mozart was a mediocre?
1bol1 1 month ago
@TheQualifiedCritic well i guess the culmination of 40+ years experience really, REALLY pays off with your comments.
DjPyro44 1 month ago
@TheQualifiedCritic lol u gave this video a view you can never take back
shimeonmorpheus 1 month ago
@shimeonmorpheus it dosent matter how many views i give it or how many fake accounts i start to thumb it down whats done is done and people need to know the truth that coltrane was a thief and a fraud.
TheQualifiedCritic 1 month ago
@TheQualifiedCritic if thats how you feel truly in your heart...well, i have no right to say anything.
shimeonmorpheus 1 month ago
@shimeonmorpheus im glad you recognize the fact that you are not qualified to comment on the subject. smart man. smarter than your obnoxiously boring name implies.
TheQualifiedCritic 1 month ago
@TheQualifiedCritic well thank your for your compliment, is my name really that boring? well we are not all as lucky as you to be gifted with the talent of inventing pseudonyms, well anyway, thank you for your constructive criticism. have a good day!
shimeonmorpheus 1 month ago
@TheQualifiedCritic please elaborate.
pineappaloupe 1 month ago
@pineappaloupe he stole all of his ideas from the great scott joplin.. watch?v=pMAtL7n_-rc
TheQualifiedCritic 1 month ago
@TheQualifiedCritic you have not actually proven your point that coltrane stole from joplin. you might be right, but your analysis is not thorough, it lacks specificity. your thesis is significant and should involve more detail,
pineappaloupe 1 month ago
@TheQualifiedCritic Er. No. Using the same logic Joplin stole off Chopin, and Chopin stole off Liszt, and Liszt stole off Beethoven, and Beethoven stole off Bach, and Bach stole off Palestrina, and we all "stole our ideas" from an ape who first learnt to start banging on a drum. The search for origins is the chief preoccupation of a feeble mind. Try looking at what Coltrane ADDS to jazz instead.
curiosofsigns 1 month ago
WOW, awesome!! My favorite parts were the rests popping in. Tons of fun to listen to as well. Thanks for popsting! (^_^)
missjaydalynne 1 month ago
wowowowowow yeah music
90eyehategod 1 month ago
bassist.
breekwhal 1 month ago in playlist Songs i've been obsessed with 2
Haaaa! Play Along!? Whaaat?! .....I mean I Nailed it!
vatopself 1 month ago 2
How in the wrold could anyone be able to do entire IMPROV solo on thirds. This guy is an absolute genius.
MrEvelynOakleigh 1 month ago
Too bad the chord symbols aren't right throughout the solo, not to mention the one change that doesn't even show up during the head.
ECrefugee 1 month ago
Best saxophone solo ever.
MatheusLemosPereira 1 month ago 14
Somebody blow my fuckin brains off, thank you.
Delalumiere666 1 month ago
3:39 (and...the piano loses it.)
3:45 John Coltrane (quickly throwing away his cigarette, grabbing his horn, and heading back into the studio): Why the hell did I hire this fool...
3:54 (Day saved, back in business.)
Love that moment when you realize that the pianist failed xD.
jimFrobel 2 months ago 25
@jimFrobel
I really doubt that Coltrane called someone a fool just cause he decided not to struggle with the changes for a difference. Especially a pianist. I really really doubt that! :P
FliegendeHollaender 1 month ago in playlist Coletrane +(focus on 'Giant Steps')
@jimFrobel
The Chords that Wyton are playing are:
Bmaj7 D7 Gmaj7 Bb7 Ebmaj7 Am7 D7 Gmaj7 Bb7 Ebmaj7 F#7 Bmaj7 Fm7 Bb7 Ebmaj7 Am7 D7 Gmaj7 C#m7 F#7 Bmaj7 Fm7 Bb7 Ebmaj7 C#m7 F#7, I disagree strongly with the sentiment that he 'messed up' in the piano solo. Why? Because he stops playing? Or because he holds a whole note?!?!? A solo doesn't have to be a ton of notes!!! It can pull back...
calico992 1 month ago
@calico992 I will be the first one to agree that a solo need not be straight eighth notes throughout. But please don't do Tommy Flanagan the dishonour of defending his solo; the guy was so embarrassed by it that he went on to re-record the song at a faster tempo later. He had to _earn_ that solo. The fact that he happened to cheese it on one of the most incredible bebop recordings of all time is rather unfortunate, but just because it's a great work overall doesn't mean he's immune.
jimFrobel 2 weeks ago
@jimFrobel I don't get it, what makes you say he/she failed?
mvute 1 month ago
@mvute @jimFrobel He (Tommy Flanagan) sort of trickled off at the end of his solo. He's having a tough time keeping up with such weird chord changes and improvising, so he just starts to play the chords. But let's give the guy a break. Flanagan was no slouch and all of this material was brand new to him
aeestela 1 month ago
@aeestela I know, I know; it was a joke xD. Man, people get so defensive about people they don't even know ><.
jimFrobel 2 weeks ago
@jimFrobel That was a very unique tune at the time and they did not have much rehearsal. Very few musicians event today would be able to improvise over those changes on first sight. Coltrane had been working on the changes for months.
lsmith869 1 month ago
@lsmith869 Agreed.
jimFrobel 2 weeks ago
@jimFrobel i think what you are hearing at 3:39 to 3:53 is a minor 7th which is by no means "losing it", actually using that as a transition to Bb from C is an amazing idea and one of the greater concepts as for as jazz piano is concerned of its time. you should consider yourself lucky to be able to hear such an amazing piece of art rather then complaining about it. just sit back and listen.
mastermeh5252 1 month ago 5
@mastermeh5252 Exactly! No one "lost it". this is a beautiful, amazing, transcendant piece of music. i ran out of superlatives
pkspalding 1 month ago
@mastermeh5252 It's frustrating to me that so many people so zealously came to the defense of Flanagan in this. I just posted that comment cause it's one legend surrounding this piece. The reality is, from _any_ objective standpoint, Flanagan cheesed it. But *that's ok*. If anything, it makes this more valuable: Coltrane's solo probably wouldn't mean nearly as much if it wasn't juxtaposed with Flanagan's cheese. And it speaks to the very nature of jazz itself: you can't be perfect all the time.
jimFrobel 2 weeks ago
@jimFrobel Fool Alert! Coltrane's solo would have been as grandiose even greater if you had put Art Tatum on the keys. 1st off, Tatum composed the piece based on a concepts and patterns that a friend (Yusef) had shared with him. 2nd, Piano and Sax are 2 completely differently interpreted instruments, thus making the cheese in one's solo COMPLETELY irrelevant to the other's solo (see Summertime, where Tyner owns the piano sol basically throughout). *the pianOracle has spoken.
pianOracle 1 week ago
@jimFrobel 3rd, Flanagan was most likely hit by the "oh shit" effect, as Coltrane was known 4 just showing up to gigs w/out rehearsal & putting music in front of artists. Drums had it good; sucked for piano.. Maybe Flanagan would have done fine, except for a previously never seen pattern of chords thrown in his face just a few minutes before a recording. I'm not defending Flanagan, as I still personally think he sucks for not having tried harder and been so technical w/ his improv.
pianOracle 1 week ago
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wutangebooks 1 month ago
@jimFrobel Good Joke, but keep in mind there was no pianist at the time who was familiarized with playing Coltrane changes at such a speed. Poor Flanagan did his best, being a great pianist himself... But yeah, everytime I heard this tune at the piano solo, im waiting for John to end his cigar and restart his solo
Nowhereman90 4 weeks ago
@jimFrobel (pianist didn't fail)
TurdBlossom95 3 weeks ago
@jimFrobel damn dude this is pretty viby but funny!
CubanBassPlayer1 3 weeks ago
@jimFrobel what the FUCK are you talking about? are you an idiot?
Aerovistae 3 weeks ago
@Aerovistae Nope.
jimFrobel 2 weeks ago
@jimFrobel you should read the story behind the incident at the recording involving the pianist. Apparently, when he practiced the song before recording, he thought the tempo was that of a ballad. Needless to say when they started recording he probably had a heart attack. Decades later the pianist re-recorded the song just so he could vindicate himself. I think his name is Tommy Flanagan
iyequertu54 3 weeks ago
@iyequertu54 Yep, that was Flanagan. And you're right about the legend. and the re-visit. Flanagan probably had to live with the scar of this recording for the rest of his life...poor guy ><. If he had nailed that solo, he probably would be a household name like Coltrane today.
jimFrobel 2 weeks ago
@jimFrobel i guess it was hard for the pianist to challenge this tune without preparation - after the first recording flanagan proved that he can play this tune very well ;)
mazaunschirm 2 weeks ago
@mazaunschirm You are absolutely right; Coltrane brought this to the studio with no rehearsal! And you are also correct; Flanagan would re-visit this tune later, taking it at a faster tempo, and nailing the solo.
jimFrobel 2 weeks ago
@jimFrobel the piano is fine
snipersas 2 weeks ago
@jimFrobel The pianOracle sure realized that jazz piano solo FAIL. In dude's defense, those who know how Coltrane would do, know he was notorious for throwing sheet music right in front of qualified musicians whom he chose to work with due to their ability to improvise well on the spot. If you play any instrument, imagine being thrown this revolutionary set of chords 5 mins before your gig w/out prior practice and asked to improve over it on the actual record on the 1st take!
pianOracle 1 week ago
I need this transcribed for bass. is there any way i can get that.
spidaonbass 2 months ago
lol i like how the piano solo just shows a 48 bar rest
ifIwereacatwereacat 2 months ago in playlist John Coltrane playlist
coolest shit ever
ifIwereacatwereacat 2 months ago in playlist John Coltrane playlist
Giant steps I take,
Shoo bop,
To head to a new place,
here I go,
Walkin low,
Giant steps,
We're not done yet!
RINGMASTER1118 2 months ago 2
Bahahahahahahahahaha "Piano solo continues"
forsythdaniel 2 months ago
im trying to listen to real music, get that karmincovers bitch out of my face
Jajajawut 2 months ago
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happyfry13 2 months ago
This song is known to be one of the hardest songs ever composed
SexyBeast1332 2 months ago
@SexyBeast1332 Too bad that complexity of harmonic structure has nothing to do with the songs actual quality.I'm not trying to start an argument here,but I must say that I'm really disappointed after hearing this composition.Especially 'cause every jazz fan(and some of them have degrees in jazz composition) told me how "great" it is and how revolutionary it was for jazz music back in the day.Anyways,have fun!Cheers:)
vekkifixx 2 months ago
@vekkifixx That comment was such a debbie downer
Beenyad 2 months ago
@Beenyad ...and I'm sorry for that.I was just stating my opinion,that's all.And,FYI,I didn't hit the dislike button.Actually,I can't remember the last time I did that.Cheers:)
vekkifixx 2 months ago
@vekkifixx lol its all good man but it was such a contrast to every other comment
Beenyad 2 months ago
the best part about this solo is it's almost completely improvised!
goodbyebabies 2 months ago
Piano solo bahaha
mgezz3 2 months ago
128 tone deafs. this is not for you
busplunger 2 months ago
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busplunger 2 months ago
Great clip. Thanks!!!
eddieroot 2 months ago
Very very Cool!!!!!
alex67mi 2 months ago
Did he ever play this live?
abdufiadbfajdfb 2 months ago
This is pretty cool. I do kind of wish the camera were stationary and the notes would pour out on the page...but that may just be my preference. Nice job.
lvbandmore 2 months ago
WoW!!!! Thanks!
triclone123 2 months ago
VERY cool. Thank you for doing this.
karenhunter58 2 months ago
something about the resting at "Piano Solo" was hilarious after all the mind bending shit that just went down
geoffreybeene 2 months ago
Can someone please explain to me why jazz sounds like a mess of notes (when it really is not)?
nappyroots89 2 months ago
@nappyroots89 listen to it again and again and it starts to make sense, and then the next song gets easier, and so on...
geoffreybeene 2 months ago
@geoffreybeene that's what my friend just told me but i still don't know why it sounds like that. like what is happening? (i understand theory btw also)
nappyroots89 2 months ago
@nappyroots89 probably because you are listening to either bebop or hard bop. there are others like swing, funk, blues, and so on, that do not sound like "a mass of notes" However, as geoffretbeene said, the more you listen to it, the better it gets, and you start to feel each notes and rhythms, and it fets much, MUCH better
AznLoLStar 2 months ago
@nappyroots89
the same way Shakespeare sounds Greek to the casual listener. you have to understand the foundations of an art to better approach the heights of an art.
feralmusic 2 months ago
@feralmusic : Well said.
donnellobrien 1 month ago
@nappyroots89 u ever talk to some one who is really smart...and shit just pours out of them from all angles ....same thing..
stevefromPA2 2 months ago
@nappyroots89 You have an untrained ear.
LeoRyzinsky 2 months ago
fantastic.
televasion 2 months ago
YESSSSSSSS
ronaldmcdonald333 3 months ago
If anyone actually wants to learn how this song is constructed, the short answer is that it's kinda in 4 keys at once. There's lots of good web pages and Youtube videos that go into way more detail.
ZeppelinRules 3 months ago
@ZeppelinRules - This transcription is transposed from the version I have which has three chordal centers a major third apart (B, Eb and G). It's not in 4 keys at once, although the "sheet of sound" Coltrane created may give that impression at times. ii- V7- I applied to above keys, and the solos operate in the upper structures of the chords for the most part.
donnellobrien 2 months ago
this is my first time seeing animated sheet music, and under the influence of marijuana and this song it cracked me up. dont know why but i look at the chords and giggle.
WHIT3CAPS 3 months ago
How did he choose the chords for this song?
themanimal07 3 months ago
@themanimal07 By listening to his heart.
TheRyanK2 3 months ago
@TheRyanK2 lool if that's what you think... then you don't know coltrane
I can't tell you how he did, but I'm sure it's some complex stuff...
Lydian chromatic concept of tonal organization maybe?
oumo 3 months ago
@oumo You may be referring to the work of George Russell. The answer would be no, this tune predates Russell's theory.
donnellobrien 2 months ago
@themanimal07 he probably imagined the melody in his head and because he probably had a good ear he very well knew what he was doing.
shimeonmorpheus 2 months ago
my eyes are singing. :D
P5etra 3 months ago 25
Just spare a thought for the bassist, the drummer and the piano....they did an equally outstanding job....
nish147 3 months ago 24
@nish147 Its awesome they didnt even rehearse or anything John gave them the chart in the recording studio and they took a few takes and published the best one....Amazing. Justin Dicioccio told me that the reason for the piano players breaks in his solo is because the chord changes are so fast and they have no relationship with eachother.
Killfreak6 1 month ago
holy crap it loox like a train. maybe ill just play the first 36 seconds
MrZboy44 3 months ago
Killer animation for the piano solo!
J/K
I love this video.
So much fun to watch.
I really like how the rests are also animated rhythmically.
Pretty cool!
Javomarquez 3 months ago
-I like the concept of reading the notes appearing while you hear them.
-Giant Steps is one of Coltrane's classics.
-Without Coltrane, my world of saxophone playing had been a different one.
alexbarmann 3 months ago
"Playing at Iridium Jazz Club, New York on Nov 13, 2011"
wut?
Harris91 3 months ago
Ah... Middle school kids, teasing me, making fun of me for liking jazz. They will never get it.
MichaelSchwartzJazz 3 months ago
すごい努力！ この動画作るのたいへんだったろうに。
TakaHiro299793 3 months ago
Alot of Chord Progressions!
biggestplanefan 3 months ago
ColeTrain! Baby! WHOOOO! anybody play gears of war 3 yet
MrCrazyguy814 3 months ago
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seanshackelford 3 months ago
Ahh, jazz. Why work hard when you can just pick a signature and go full autistic?
mudchair16 3 months ago
@mudchair16 What does this even mean
MrHeavanell 3 months ago
@MrHeavanell I think he means jazz players are autistic in that their hands just randomly spaz out while they are playing, that is what it sounds like I guess but in a good way, Coltrane does play really fast
RobBrooksMusic 3 months ago
@RobBrooksMusic He doesn't really spaz. He knows exactly what he's playing.
MrHeavanell 3 months ago
@RobBrooksMusic I know but you said what does he mean, I guess before I liked listening to this kind of music it did sound like a load of nonsense being randomly played
RobBrooksMusic 3 months ago
This is so fun to play on sax. :)
l2udolph 3 months ago
My thoughts on this: This is pretty easy I bet I could play this no problem
0:36 happens: OH SHIT scratch that
Redeye1524 3 months ago 80
@Redeye1524 Yep. I COULD learn it note for note, but that still doesn't mean that I would have the same understanding of the music. Just a talented parrot.
TheSocialistsParty 3 months ago
@TheSocialistsParty same here! but hey, it's a start.
rickariche 3 months ago
The epic solo over the fermata at the end isn't transcribed!
1Moregano1 3 months ago
!!!!! xox
Aeerobic 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
who could ever dilike this??
DimportantONE 3 months ago
These chords are sick. It's just substitutions on top of subs in Coltrane's signature key changes (in thirds instead of usual fourths n fifths). Awesome!
BlikeNave 3 months ago
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penguinzrule7 3 months ago
Listening to this is my homework. I have the most awesome teacher ever :D
Tounnsk 3 months ago
Learned the whole song with this animation. I'm applying to berklee college of music this year for guitar and just wanted to know if anybody familiar with the college's standards can tell me if you think playing this song in the audition is good enough to get in? Pls somebody answer
49591994 3 months ago
@49591994 this is one of coltrane's classics. However, I'd say if you're auditioning on guitar, and you have the opportunity to do another song in addition, I'd say go with a classic standard that you know that EVERYONE knows. you know? just for the familiarity. When I auditioned for Jazz voice to Cornish college of the arts, I did Cry Me A River. And I got in, so yeah! :D
tOtAlLyInLoVeWiThEd 3 months ago
@tOtAlLyInLoVeWiThEd hey do you currently go to cornish? I'm about to apply there for bass and it'd be nice if you can give me some pointers on the audition process.
fd95117 3 months ago
this is just friggin AWESOME!!!! please do more!
analyzingfunny 3 months ago
THIS SHIT IS SOOOO FUCKIN' AWESOME MAN, NOT ONLY IS THE ANIMATION GOOD BUT IF IT WASN'T FOR THE SONG, IT WOULDN'T BE WORTH LOOKING AT!!!!!
doeedens 3 months ago
Am I the only one who went crosseyed after the 0:48 mark or so ???
LikeABoggs 3 months ago
And this doesn't even show articulation (appogitora, sostenuto, staccato, slurs, etc.)
incorrigibleg 3 months ago
i picture the guy doing the piano solo as a robot with smoke coming out of it and nuts and bolts flying off and falling apart trying to keep up with him
Stunsuch 3 months ago
@Stunsuch his solo is pretty dang sweet nonetheless. Mellow against John's volcanic riffs.
:)
incorrigibleg 3 months ago
@Stunsuch
haha!
cbmuzik 2 months ago
Everytime I hear this song I have a seizureaz;sdkfjvawhlkaalwlwallsllelflaslehlghhghgggkjjkjjgdfy
TheKuraiShinobi 4 months ago
374 bpm, holy crap.
TheNando777 4 months ago
@TheNando777 where are you getting 374 bpm from? i'm thinking its more like 292 to the quarter note.
russrolld 3 months ago
I quite like that someone's done this, but it's pedagogically useless. Supposing that I wanted to learn Coltrane's solo in Giant Steps, I would need the hard copy transcription of it plus the CD or a digital file that I could stop and playback with total precision on a bar-by-bar basis, which is not the case with this video.
lexo30 4 months ago
@lexo30: Or, transcribe it yourself. The exercise in the process would get you much more familiar with the tune and the solo than merely learning someone else's transcription. Here's a hint: the tonal centers are B, Eb, and G (major 3rds apart) with their respective ii - V7 - I chords. Use the upper structure triads to solo over. Add genius and stir.
donnellobrien 3 months ago
@donnellobrien Good idea. I actually have the Aebersold book about learning Giant Steps (I know that applying the Aebersold method to Coltrane is a bit stupid but what can I say, I don't have any other access to tuition) so I already know the chords. But I might just have a go at transcribing it into Sibelius. Thanks for the tip.
lexo30 3 months ago
@lexo30 : Aebersold is a good tool. Nothing stupid about it. Keep me posted - I'd like to hear what you come up with.
donnellobrien 3 months ago
@donnellobrien can u explain the chord progression?
shimeonmorpheus 2 months ago
@shimeonmorpheus - Hello~ it is a tune based on three chordal centers a major third apart: B, Eb and G with ii-V7s to each.The opening melody, interestingly, outlines a G major 7th chord (F#, D, B, G), then repeats the sequence with an Eb Major seventh (D, Bb, G, Eb). In order to return to the beginning of the melody, Coltrane expresses part of the sequence (Mi, Re, Sol in Eb; Mi Re Sol in G; Mi Re Sol in B; Mi, Mi, Sol in Eb. Sol, Sol in B. I never get tired of this tune.
donnellobrien 2 months ago
@shimeonmorpheus @shimeonmorpheus agree ,just wanted to add that the idea of a chord progression is to return to the original tonal center, Rock n roll songs usually have only one tonal center.More traditional jazz "standards" cycle through tonal centers based on cycle of fifths(Sweet Georgia Brown)or half steps(So What)but Coltrane was revolutionary in dividing up the octave into 3 equal parts(tonal ctrs exactly a major fifth apart).Another ex. is "Have You Met Miss Jones"
dojomania 1 month ago
@shimeonmorpheus agree ,just wanted to add that the idea of a chord progression is to return to the original tonal center, Rock n roll songs usually have only one tonal center.More traditional jazz "standards" cycle through tonal centers based on cycle of fifths(Sweet Georgia Brown)or half steps(So What)but Coltrane was revolutionary in dividing up the octave into 3 equal parts(tonal ctrs exactly a major third apart).Another ex. is "Have You Met Miss Jones"
dojomania 1 month ago
"Sometimes I wish I could walk up to my music as if for the first time, as if I had never heard it before. Being so inescapably a part of it, I'll never know what the listener gets, what the listener feels, and that's too bad." - John Coltrane
twrobalin 4 months ago 67
@twrobalin Those are my exact thoughts when I think about Pink Floyd composing their legendary Dark Side of the Moon.
Anyway, nice sounding tune here. :)
cosmicdebris420 2 months ago
I'd love to watch it if it were available to watch via mobile.
SwordofAslan 4 months ago
Nice. I like this. Now, can you do your magic on WAVE by Antonio Carlos Jobim?
rmpairs 4 months ago