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  • im 95 percent sure that he would get merked in a full on fight

  • It'd be more interesting if the students came @ him full blast.

  • @drhenry2006 Actually it's best that they don't. Tai Chi Chuan is dangerous at the best of times. The principles of the art is to use the enemies force against them. Can you imagine what full force would do to the opponent? It would be ugly. The purpous of these demonstrations is to develop sensitivity during combat. If you hurt your opponent every time you trained together, you wouldn't have anyone to train with. Hence the term sparring.

  • BGZBadboy says he can whip anyone on here so ...The real N.Y. group says, "Look man, pay this guy no mind. He's pissed off that that he was busted in his claim of knowing anything. Everything he knows about it came off of Black Taoist's Website & others.. he claims we're frauds but have you seen what he claims to know and teach? He should be the baddest man on the planet.

    He knows shit that no one man could possibly know.

  • @theangelrules007 This coming from someone who claims to have known Bruce Lee, claims that Wong Jack Man killed Bruce Lee with the delayed death touch, claims to be an undeated Sambo/MMA/Streetfighting champion, claims to have Tong/Triad connections, claims that Erle Montaigue and the entire WTBA organization are nothing but, and I quote, "a bunch of pussies", claims to speak for Novell Bell and the entie NYC BGZ group, and has threatened to have Emin Boztepe kick my ass...lol. Impressive:)

  • @BGZBadboy

    No that coming from someone who knows, "Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience."

  • @theangelrules007 Did Ben Hill teach you that?...lol. Birds of a feather, and all:)

  • I don't see structure. I train Taiji for 1 year (not much), but I heard constantly that structure is the most important... and I see this man, with all do respect, bounding on every side and even sometimes using his hands to help himself stand - so it means there is lack of inveteracy/roots... or maybe I'm wrong ;)

  • One of the VERY few Taijiquan application videos on YouTube actually worth watching.

  • " things i dont get about this one the returner in Camo jacket seems to a) have a propensity to look down and have no facial contact when pushing back which is highly dangerous in a fight thus impractical, and b) Seems unrooted in his back foot when returning stuff as it keeps coming off the floor.

  • 'A' is kind of a personal habit he has when doing demos and applications. When he spars he doesn't do it and you won't get anything past him.

    As for 'B', he had suffered a pretty bad back injury a few months before and didn't have the same rooting he had before and has now.

  • @Cunnysmythe

    bogus excuses, the guy sucks at dealing with this scrawny 13 yr. old kid. His technique and knowledge are seriously lacking and this is a demo staged fiasco with his student. Imagine a thai boxer or some legit fighter mastering his style. this guy would be down immed. and wake up in the hospital. you suck

  • Unlike with your Silat master dis guy doesn't train children. His technique and knowledge are verified as a 5th generation masters who taught the commandos in China and currently teaches in the Shaolin temple UK. Taiji is primarily forThai boxing ring rules and i I wouldn't give the best Thai boxer any more than 2 mins to survive with the guy in camo no rules.

    BTW those demos on yr home page are awesome!!Not staged at like this shit, d instrrcutor shows so much expertise! honest

  • sarcasm-yeah i can appreciate that. This so called master is actually throwing young boys aroung here- not fighters, just young boys. This phony against an experienced muay thai fighter? If you believe he would last you are sillier than i first imagined. OOHH he yeaches in the shaolin temple in london? as if that means something out in the big world away from your mommy's basement. His technique and so called knowledge are on exhibit in this video and he is deemed seriously lacking. nanananana

  • boys in their 20s by which time most thai boxing money grabbers have retired. Muay Thai fighters are the phoneys out of the ring. Buakaw v the guy in the camo less than 2 mins, top muay thai boxer your country 30 secs. Muay thai gusy are not fighters butsports men. I don't believe he would last i belive he would kill

  • he can barely deal with the 14 yr old hippy kid. He could fight buakaw hahah you are a simpelton. good luck with that hero worship thing hahah. I saw bukakaw fight some chinese kung fu guys and he punished / humiliated them. Maybe this guy is your your boyfriend? hahah

  • which 14 year old kid, you? he would not fight Buakaw, to have a fight would be there would be 2 people, it would be a no match, Buakaw would not last in a rules fight. So prey do tell where did Buakaw punish people? in k-1 ha pathetic even the likes of Brock Lesnar can fight in k-1 pathetic!

  • @flancka

    You know nothing about his knowledge of fighting; you're grasping at straws. All you've said is that he sucks and that Muay Thai is better; you've raised no valid points at all. Troll another video, you bore us.

  • I can tell by how he moves his body, that he is clumsy and his timing is off. His body is not unified. He is having trouble with his young inexperienced students and this is a staged demo so things should be working in his favour. They are not. Also he leaves his neck and head behind when he tries to fah jing. I can tell that he might do ok with this pushing stuff against young students but it is obvious that he has no real sparring experience against a trained fighter. ...continue

  • continued..

     I thinknot only the fakes and con-men need to be exposed but also the boot/ bag-lickers and hangers-on like yourself who know nothing but cheer and support the fraud and pave the way for this type of scam.

  • @flancka Admit it, you're looking to criticise without experience. Your post is full of falsehoods and overgeneralisations. You've even commented on his master's videos, acting as if his demonstration of a particular theory is supposed to apply to every possible situation. You've assumed the whole from the minority of the tiny sample you've seen. If you don't like it, pay it no mind instead of whining about what you don't understand.

  • @Cunnysmythe

    takes only a sample to recognize bullshit. ohhhh and I even commented on his master's videos? this perhaps makes the point that if the recipe is wanting the banquet will be a failure. You wanna be caught up in this master thing then ok but don't expect others to buy into this bogus demonstration

  • @flancka I said the minority of the sample. You take something that happens like twice in 50 applications and speak on it as if it's representative of the whole. Obviously you don't believe that Taiji principles work. Fair enough.

  • @flancka if you want to see real applications check out master wong he is the most practical tai chi person on you tube and also in wing chung

  • To me Tai Chi is something like the Feldenkrais method(look it up on wiki).

    And I use this on MMA, because the Kung Fu like applications you get taught suck and are rather used for practice of the principles.

  • Taiji is kung fu

  • Tai Chi is only a principle and a state of mind, Tai Chi chuan and all the forms made for "fighting" applications are kung fu.

  • hard fast electronic music w yelling ... oh yeah i practice tai chi to that allll the time . great tai chi music op!

  • Thankyou for attempting to show applied Tai-chi. Would be good to see a decent boxer or BJJ practioner have a go, and would help the image of the internal arts on YouTube.

    Peace

  • boxers and BJJ are mostly in it for sports not martial arts

  • @Shantou1

    bullshit line, you obviously know nothing

  • The problem is, no decent boxer or even a blue belt in BJJ would run up to someone... Arts like Akido and Tai Chi require the redirection of force... Personally at a Muay Thai and BJJ practitioner I would go for the single or double leg to take him down and then work a submission or I would stand with him and see if he can take a real punch or kick...

  • @naaarch

    one round kick to the inside leg or thigh by a legit muay thai fighter would drop this phony immediately. no takedowns necessary. 2 sec. this4 eyes would be begging to end the fight.

  • @naaarch This is true but you can feint to provoke a reaction with Tai Chi or if there is an opening you can attack first. There are three timings, before, during and after. Before is best so hit the guy as soon as he shows his intent. This is real Tai Chi.

  • @naaarch nah you wouldnt casue you probly cant even get out of your fatass chair

  • @singerwithkunai fatass chair huh?  I'm a black belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu under Master Rorion Gracie, a 2nd degree dan (black belt) in Judo, 10 years of Muay Thai under Saekson Jinjira (trains the best Muay Thai fighters in the world), and a 10-2 mma record (6 by submission and 4 by ko, lost the 2 by judge's decision). I think I know a couple of things when it comes to taking someone down and making them tap or knocking them out... What's your resume keyboard warrior?

  • he is good at beating up hippies.

  • lol!

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  • Taijiquan in theory is a soft style cos seriously why would want to block force with force???...dats just very painful and stupid but taijiquan neutralises dat force and lets it flow back to e assailant hence I guess dats why its also called the "Ultimate"?

    Hmmm I wonder if it can be self taught?

  • Technically It can, buuuuuut It's got a lot of subtle movements, and you won't get the hang of it without a partner.

  • No, can't be self taught if you want to use it to fight. C'mon now! Use your noggin!

  • FINALLY! Someone actually demonstrating authentic NORTHERN Wu Taijiquan in application! THANK YOU! No BS "chi projection" and sending people hopping away with a thought, etc. REAL USAGE. EXCELLENT!

  • So every attacker comes after you with both hands in front of them slowly and with no intent to cause harm,if any of those guys could actually fight theyd have crushed that guy.

  • I have to agree. I'm getting SICK & TIRED of seeing these, lame, paltry "attacks" that are being "repelled" by "masters". Is THIS what the marital arts have descended to? You'd probably learn more from a 1970s Kung Fu movie.

  • Looks good to me. Sure, he's moving in and out of "pure Taiji", but that's perfectly acceptable in a real fighting situation. Much respect to the teacher.

  • the problem i have with this video is there not trying to hit guy. they run up and LET him stop them. im not saying that these moves dont work but if i want to i could just plck him up and slam him to the floor.(maybe)

  • This is obviously a training session. Of course they aren't actually trying to hit him. The important thing is what we can learn from it: In each case the teacher neutralizes the incoming attack, and then responds.

  • I'm not impressed

  • that's because you don't understand how taichi works and how the master is using his force. i personally practise muay thai, but i've seen how amazing taichi can be, taichi is not about speed or power, it's about react to ur opponent's attack and transfer it back to him

  • I'm sure tai chi is pretty fascinating but I doubt it'd be practical outside of theory against a trained boxer or an enraged fighter of markedly larger dimensions. It's probably more useful for purposes of well-being than any serious means of self-defense.

  • Like Wing Chun, Taiji was designed against fighters who are bigger and stronger than you are.

    Why is that people must see somebody get killed in order to acknowledge something. All he is doing is throwing him around he doesn't have to show strikes, because thats common sense. A real Taiji fighter who's life was in danger might resort to death blow's but a master neutralizes the situation. Dont be fooled by the old people at the park.

  • Fairly said, I stand corrected.

  • wu style is awesome

  • @sausaage123 taichi is awesome, chen is awesome, wu is awesome too when it does like chen).

  • lol

  • Thumbs down me. . . fine, but before you do just look at 2:12-2:15. . . . . . . . . . . really. He walked up and shin kicked at the guy like a 2 year old. . .

    Just a tip, these over-fancy styles aren't very useful. . .  or at least not so much more so than experience or . . .what's that word. . . a gun? yeah, that could be it.

  • Comments are always filled with long-distance criticisms.

  • I guess you wanted him to break his shin bone. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANNA SEE?

  • whats the name of this song??? = Awesome

  • LOL.......gotta good beat and easy to dance to!

  • mad capsule markets=tribe

  • Great Video, I love the way this guy moves.....Excellent

  • All that's happening is some person that doesn't know how to fight runs straight at a guy and the guy just pushes the person away

  • Chun li

  • WING CHUN!!!!!!

  • not really

  • CHIN Na!!!!

  • this person always looks down at the ground after his defence.

  • not nice

  • Tai Chi and Wing Chun is the perfect combination.

  • Ah... Tai Chi, it just has so much common sense. Rampaging drunk is running towards you about to give you a knuckle sandwich. Step to side and use ward off to guide the direction of impact away and watch as he runs past you... then leg it out of the pub. XD

  • Nice video. Awful music.

  • beautiful

  • cool thanks =] and nice vid

  • what is the name of this song?o.o could someone let me know?

  • its by the mad capsule markets... I think it was called pulse, but I can't be sure...

  • lul, no force at all, but ufc youtube warriors stfu you are only the best when u fight the rest lullulululululul

  • TAI CHI is the best way in hard fighting especially when you dont know about your enimy

  • Oh yeah!

  • uhm. i see ufc fighters do a running sort of punch all the time. running sort of tackles. and even fighters not in ufc. like vanderlei silva.

  • Plus: yep, its definitely tai chi

    Minus: What the hell dude, whats wrong with you? This crappy music does not belong in the video..

  • UFC fighters don't make millions, its a closed society and they have a very specific rule set...

    Also its very easy to espouse how tough you are from the safety of you armchair, how about you show us all the courage of your convictions?

    No?

    I thought not, go crawl back under what ever rock you scuttled out from..

  • People who say this have usually never been in hand-to-hand combat.

  • piss off

  • heh... and I thought I was good...

  • men, this is incredible!:O atacck with tai chi???? i like it! its great! and the song is very good. incredible

  • There are dozens of styles of tai chi chuan. Some Offensive some defensive. But they are all soft fist. as opposed to hard fist like shaolin. There is a good reason why this is called THE GRAND ULTIMATE FIST. Its a serious and lethal form of combat.

  • But didn't Shaolin also bring in near every major form of Tai Chi into their temples, kind of making them a hard and soft form practitioners?

  • Shaolin is supposed to have its own rou quan - soft fist chi gong and martial art with mad looking fajin like in Chen style.

  • ITS OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • tai chi is not mainly used for combat so its not used in competition for fighting only showing styles, so how can it be mainly offensive. Do u attack first? good way to start a fight.

  • totally defensive art, anyone that studys tai chi under an instructor for 5+ years should be able to toy with a non chi person like a cat playing with a mouse.

  • Not a defensive art... an extremely OFFENSIVE art. True its used mainly in defence, but a proper practitioner of Taiji-Quan is a very offensive fighter, read the taiji classics.

  • Tai Chi is a defensive art. Its not as passive as Aikido, but Tai Chi teaches you to remain on a "point", and redirect your opponents energy and attack away from you. What a lot of people don't know, is that tai chi is very in close and deals with a lot of throws and joint manipulation.

  • I re-state. Its NOT a defensive art. The techniques in tai chi are brutal, and anything BUT defensive. Even there defence is attack. When they "yeild" to an attack, they damage the opponant in doing so. It is nothing like aikido, its not about redirecting there energy, its about using there energy so you dont have to use as much of yours. The harder they throw that punch, the harder they'll feel the offensive striking block to there arm.

  • Yes, you are correct in the brutality of Tai Chi, I don't disagree with that. With that point given, I still disagree with your assessment. There are varying ways to defend agaisnt an attack, the gentleman in the video redirected the opponent's attacks, more than a few times. You also "empty" and "yield" to attacks. All of these tactics are defensive tactics, allowing you to set-up a counter-attack. Maybe the style of Tai Chi you are familiar with is different than the one I studied.

  • Well to make things clear, your also correct, with every move in the form, comes multiple applications, literally only limited to your imaginations. But I beleive that to stop an attack, and then attack is a waste of time, and what my teacher told me was that simultanious attack and defence is the best way to do it, because its the unespected thing, same with never stepping back. But yeah, I apologise for the mis-understanding, and you are correct in saying its just a different way of doing it.

  • it can be offensive since you can control the forces around you i think. I do think a Tai Chi user can initiate an attack first. Tai Chi and Shaolin gentle fists are in somehow related? can someone enlighten me?

  • sweet

  • it's a bit to fast ^^

  • That's really cool! I didn't know that Tai Chi was also a combat art. It's really neat to see how it's used like that. Kind of uses your enemy's momentum against them. That's so awesome and graceful. That's what I love about traditional Chinese martial arts, they are beautiful but also very powerful.

  • Yeah, Tai Chi is scary if used for combat.

  • it looks like aikido only this one is more like circular movements

  • tai chi is the ultimate style of defensive martial arts

  • Yes it is and I love it.

  • it is most awsome. i've never seen wu style before, herd of it, never saw it. i do yang style, nice and fluffy.

  • somehow i like this vid. looks simple and working

  • Well, that's what i get for trying to be polite about an opinion that I had about a video. Like myself, when you put up a video, you will have to deal with all comments, bad or good. I could have wrote what many red-neck uneducated types write such as, "this sux, ...pussy bla bla" & the list goes on, but I wrote that the music is distracting to the clip, at least to my perception. You don't have to change jack. it's your clip. You are welcome to come 2 my page & write whatever you like.

  • Of course it doesn't mean people should change anything I don't like. without the input of others, how could you grown or see a different pt. of view? Why would you put a clip up if you didn't want input from viewers? & finally, what does spam have to do with my comments? Spammers belong to the lowest rung. to avoid irritating your master, I can give you my honest opinion of this clip via private email if you like...or not, in which case you won't ever know how others see your master & why.

  • Sorry, this isn't a positive comment, but i had to say it...the music is really distracting. And...well, respectfully, immature and inappropriate for the clip. so much so that i had to mute it in order to be able to finish watching the clip. I've got other useless opinions about the master's display of his skills too, but i should keep it to myself since it's not positive either. best wishes.

  • what a very strange comment, I'm not really sure how to respond to it as everything in it seems superfluous, the music was the mad capsule markets who have been around for years, how precisely my choice of music could be considered immature is quite beyond my comprehension, does that mean by the constraints of your logic, every time you hear a piece of music you dislike it's an immature choice, are you the contextual censer of the world?

  • negative comments I can deal with, it occurs to me that you have either stumbled into the perfect formula for spam, or have become so well practiced at spamming, you have acquired the ability to deftly avoid actually saying anything whilst discussing a specific topic, its a wonder you don't go into politics...

  • shetasen is right, fighting aint only about overpowering ur opponent.. sometimes, just finding how unbalanced hsi your opponent is sufficient to put him in a pretty bad position.. you must not search to hurt trough fighting.. especially if your using martial arts.. just to protect yourself

  • haters. Tai chi is a form of martial arts. It concentrates on fluid and controlled movements. Someone who rushes in can be unbalanced and knocked off gaurd by the different approuch. Fighting isn't all about overpowering your opponent.

  • 係有料到喎,我都吸到些少,thx

  • the problem with tai chi is you need your opponent to rush in at you like an idiot and then just stand there as you complete your bogus move.

  • Perhaps you would like a critique of capoeira done in a similar vein? Perhaps not... You are more than welcome to come and test the validity of our style for yourself, only then should you feel free to run your mouth off....

  • nah Tai chi suks..and u do too.

  • anybody that know Tai Chi can kick ur ass

  • well surely you don't know it, seeing how you'd use it to kicc peoples ass

  • in the parks in china, theres like 80 year old people practicing taichi, do u think they can beat someone?

  • probably. there's a woman, about 4'9", 60+ years of age who practices on the beach at about 6a.m. I see her on the way to work... I'm pretty sure she could kick my arse.

  • hmm you proably never fought some1 who jsut do random blows lol(i mean anyone who acts like wanna be gangster) they do rush at you and do " random blows"

  • music?

  • the mad capsule markets

  • I've 20 years experience in m/arts, mostly w/chun, I had the opportunity to train with and spar freely with some of Master Huang Sheng Shyans senior students. Their skill far exceeded mine and they were able to throw me around with out the use of force as seen in this video, it was like trying to fight a cloud. In contrast this seems crude.

  • How nice for you...

    I suspect we'd still be able to throw you around...

  • does that really works..on a street fight?

  • it's all about reaction, taichi kicks ass

  • do you know how the kongfu stuff rised ?some ppl kill others(must be a famous master or smthing)and then his fight skills will be known by the whole city or country. that s what kongfu can live till now.

  • nice Video! just embeded in my blogg :D

  • If you have an eye for real martial arts you would see that is he doing a lot of jointlocks and unbalancing, which are different than a direct punch or kick, so they may be seem weak if you are used to just watching movies. But they aren't. I find it funny that they have this rock/techno on though, seeing as Taichi is one of the "softer" martial arts style.... Oh and against kickboxing he would probably just catch your leg and unbalance you from there.

  • The attacks were pretty pathetic. I would like to see him try this on someone other than a girl and a boy.

  • It almost looks like aikido. Any way it can be good to unbalance another person. In a grappling situation it would be different.

  • Not really, we practice grappling and have a very complete set of unpleasant counter measures...;)

  • What about a ground defense?

  • what about if you are on the ground doing your little ground defense thing and your getting stomped by three other guys. get the fuck up fast no? even better still dont go there in the first place. we have chin na for that, i personally will hurt you badly if you floor me. i gots the iron grip and you have plenty of sweet meats for me to get at. what was it, one pound to crush a wind pipe and an ounce to take out an eye or how about i seperate your tendons or grab me some nerve clusters?

  • type into your box iliq chuan. and youll see just that buddy its root is tai chi

  • lol seven days, every morning in cannon hill park 7-10, and Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday there are evening sessions, and yes I was a kick boxer ergo i have sparred 'a few', john did muay Thai for a few years and jujitsu for 7 years, Neil has studied sequel styles inclusive of boxing, our sifu studied shoaling for 12 years, we have mantis practitioners, Chinese free fighter and even a few karate guys..

  • This is one element of a very large system;)

  • The advantage is to control your opponent while he's attacking you. What about a grappling defense?

  • Thats Qi Kung

  • This isn't tai chi! he's just shoving them over.

  • Your more than welcome to come and try your hand...

  • No, I'm sure he could shove me over too! No disrespect intended, it's still great to see Tai chi being applied martially, its important to 'keep it real'. I would be careful with your teacher saying he's a master though, I've seen tai chi look alot more effortless and graceful, and alot more powerful. Again, no disrespect, keep it up!

    peace

  • this video is really dumb.. You do not need tai Chi to beat up a woman...Stupid video

  • There are no women in this video. Only a 6 1" 220lb man with long hair and a history of violent behaviour..

  • I never see Tai Chi Can stop Brute Power one...Can any taichi master teach?

  • Your life experience constitutes a very small corner of this earth, ergo even if the answer exists outside your limited experience; it is no less valid..

  • lol WTF is Tai Chi any way :P

  • Well tai chi is an branch internal Chinese Martial arts, concerned with brain over born, the redirection of force and whole body power, pressure point, lock, ground fighting, judo, among other things...

  • actually you're misisng the obvious, the man isn't tired, shiiiite

  • im practice tai chi about a month i would like to be like diz master... i have to training hard.. tai chi its great

  • Oh right... like anyone who actually KNEW how to fight would attack him that way..... go in MMA if your such a tough guy..

  • Yes because MMA is the signal greatest advance in fighting technique in human history, not at all derivative, and of course ever person who dose MMA is fifteen feet tall, feels no pain and shits bullets, it's not at all populated by a majority of no hope, ignorant wasters, (not unlike your good self?) Have you any idea how difficult it is for you to actually join UFC, Pride ect no?

  • Part 2:

    its not like you can just waltz into a gym, crush your opponent and expect a shot, oh no, you must provide value for money, be a marketable quantity, and finally here is the kicker, MMA fights have now become so heavily marketed so utterly constrained by rules and limitations, that it is impossible to fight on any other terms than those set out by the most approved methods of conduct, MMA is now just a sport like any other.

  • Part 3:

    Think before you type, for a self styled ninja and Gung Fu practitioner you have yet to demonstrate any of the qualities one would expect to see in my kinsmen..

  • haha OWN3D!!!

    damn straight man damn straight.

    although MMA has it's positives in its training but i guess that's totally on perfecting your art. i've got a taijitsu teach right here in Vancouver that i wanted to look into.

  • He doesn't look very rooted..! Superb work though, great to see taiji in context.

  • lol, yes he isn't very rooted there ( he was recovering form a slipped disk at the time), I assure you however we break on him like waves on rock..

  • Ok thanks, just wanted to know wasn't sure cuz it looked quite the same to me though! But I'm not so educated in martial arts, more of an spectator=)

  • Im not sure but isn't tai chi and aikido practicly the same thing? just a small differrence?

  • Venturing a guess, while both TaiChi and Aikido work within the same spectrum of energy reception and redirection, the difference that I see between the two is that the Aikido is concerned with spiral diffusion off the line of attack, whereas the nature of Taichi has always seemed more linear to me.

    Taichi does use some aspects of spiral movement but not on a whole body scale the way Aikido does. Evasion and then circular diffusion is the main component to Aikido's techniques

  • the difference is astounding aikido is totally nonaggressive, this is not the case with Taiji, the training methods, goals and to a large extent the philosophy's differ, aikido, they also have much in common, certainly when it comes down to set movement fighting.