I am guessing this is the PC version? I respect that they were trying to make it more realistic by making the music seem as though it was coming from the float, but I really think the realism they get from this effect has nothing on the impact created by the full sound used in the PSX version. It is what really makes this part breathtaking, and this by comparison is disappointing.
This particular scenario in VIII is quite amazing, one of my personal favorites (specifically, the Edea, Seifer appearances).
XIII probably lacks the feeling, as it's essentially been "dumbed" down for a broader audience, another example of this is Biohazard/Resident Evil 5 now being more of an action genre game instead of it's initial roots coining the term Survival Horror.
I was looking around and I saw something for "FINAL FANTASY VIII-2"...not that totally bogus picture and video, this was something else. It was on some gaming site along with "FF Melody XIII...which looks very dark, and FF Hearasis XIII"
VIII-2, all of them have been completely fake. Square made no plans for a sequel, or to even show the game from the Witches Side - Edea/Seifer Possessed/Rinoa Possessed/"Ultimecia".
Final Fantasy Melody XIII, fake. No patent registered for it - was started when a user posted it as a new Fabula Nova Crystallis title whereas Final Fantasy Haerasis XIII (FF Heresy 13 in Latin) is an official, patented title that hasn't been officially "introduced".
"Final Fantasy VIII-2 : Legend of the Silver Lion" is a fan-made sequel made in RPG Maker.
The other images, were a prank modifying images of at the time upcoming title and the rest were modifications and hacks with the Japanese Final Fantasy VIII under the title of "Final Fantasy VIII GAIDEN"/FFVIII "Other Story".
Nothing for Final Fantasy Haerasis XIII has been released outside of patent confirmation and a general text logo-tag.
I know that some of them look convincing, however please check around and for proper sources such as the Patent Office, some gaming sites will also provide patent detail links.
Personally, I've pulled a few of those pranks myself in the past - so I know that they do go around.
Because Edea's attack didn't get him in his abdomen. It hit Squall's right shoulder. Being a magic attack, and not even the full one at that - it would have been easy to heal. But would hurt a lot after.
Look at 4:35 and see Squall's injury. It's nothing like Aerith's which means the Phoenix Down joke doesn't go with it.
It was his shoulder, and they were surrouned by Galabadian soldiers instantly, so they could have cured him. Or Squall coulda had what I was thinking like some others were gonna do too, he had 100 Blizzga junctioned to his elemental defense ;D
i chad this song as my alarm clock for the last 2 years and i just changed it to the end theme of ff10 but i could never get bored of this song nor any of the songs from final fantasy-its amazing
apparently, the dancers in this video were actually doing michael jacksons 'thriller' dance when he was a zombie, i read it on the final fantasy wiki website. I dont know if its true though
That's in the Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within, bonus movie disc (it came as a bonus with the Collector's Edition). It was purposely done on the bonus disc as a joke, they called it "Kelly's Thriller".
The dance in this isn't even close to Michael Jackson's Thriller one.
Edea... *drool* hm, if it weren't for Yoshitaka Amano, she wouldn't have that funky shell on the side of her head. I knew Fithos, Lusec, Wecos, Venosec was different than in the OST for PSX.
Is there somewhere I can d/l this part (at the start of the video) of the theme? It's the same song as the Succession of Witches or whatever isn't it? I can't find it anywhere...
They aren't supposed to. They're supposed to look like demonic versions of Fujin and Raijin. To the factor of meaning to resemble Griever in the later sequence of the game.
It's an Amano design for them, as is Edea's original design... so they look a bit darker than most in this one.
Actually it is not the same as Succession of Witches. Differences within the arrangement of the theme itself, lack of vocals, different pitches... etc multiple differences but with a repeating section of the Final Fantasy VIII main theme (Theme of the Witches, not the Theme of Love / Eyes on Me).
In no way is this misleading, as I stated - I replaced the audio for the "Parade Theme" specifically which is why it was titled Fithos Lusec Wecos Vinosec.
Actually, there were a group of Galbadian Soldiers' controlling the float from the inside.
(...What? Do some people think that EVERYTHING in the Final Fantasy series is run from some sort of magic? Well in VIII they actually use fuel to be more realistic to our world - as intended by the Square Staff).
That's how they got everyone at the jail, not to mention Leonhart was separated from the main party so he could be healed and was put up first for interrogation.
It would be great if the decided to make this into a move... maybe a cg movie because other wise it would get messed up like most other movies based of video games.
Actually, they had planned to do one (or they had at least written a script for it) but with only minor changes from the game's storyline - more in conjunction with the original script which was edited to hell in the release of the game.
But it ended up in storage instead of being produced - just like the Final Fantasy X-2 Rikku game....
this is awesome. I want to play this game all over again. In my opininion all the final fantssy games are great. Some just stand out more than others. i may love VII, but even i would prefer a sequel or prequel to 6, 8 or 9.
I looooved Edea, Liberi Fatali ALWAYS stuck with me. <3 I'd random start mumbling the 'words' to it. xD It's funny how well these scenes work together isn't it? This game could have easily been a movie. Far better than any FFVII movie could be too.
I have played all of the Final Fantasies, but FFVIII Is by far the best in my opinion. I get chills at every important part. I am in love with this game, and it will be my favorite forever.
"Evil should be allowed to roam where it will if you let it stay inside you eventually you will become your own demon...."-- by Me this is a kick ass song im goin through evry ff again just for the hell of it awesome series great vid
I love my Square / Square Soft / Square-Enix games.
Ah, I'm just waiting for すばらしきこのせかい (Subarashiki Kono Sekai / It's a Wonderful World) on the Nintendo DS at the moment as I've finished all of the Final Fantasies and Kingdom Hearts games at the moment fully... so I'm just replaying them. XD
It's been too long since I played this part of the game to know for sure, but even if the music in this video doesn't sync up exactly the way it did in the game, it sure sounds like it fits! :-D
That part was great! If I wasn't like a hardcore FFVIII fan, I wouldn't have guessed it was edited together.. and LOL @ The lizards.. my first two times through the game I forgot to draw carbuncle from them.. I was like. Doh!
I heard Squaresoft appologized that they didn't wait to release FF8 on the PS2 because it would have been a better game. If you ask me there're a lot more complex emotions in FF8 than in FF7. More rounded characters.
They did, and it was profusely said too.I agree with you, I honestly don't see what was so great about VII, it wasn't the first game to have a character die or a crazed antagonist who destroyed towns *cough*Kefka, Ex-Death, Zeromus... etc*COUGH*.
Well some aspects that FF VII had carried over to VIII, to be honest i regard myself a VII fan, but I really like VIII almost as much, but i think VII kinda revolutionized gaming no just graphic wise but story wise as well
Not many aspects, only a couple of minor changes to the battle system, minor styling for the junction system and menu system images. Not many aspects at all. Final Fantasy VII was rushed and in my opinion is highly over-rated and is really only regarded to be the best as most "FF Fans" joined the bandwagon with VII.
Edea/Ultimecia envoked them from the Deiling City Gateway, they're what you fight before you rescue Rinoa before proceeding into the Clock Tower to continue to mission to take out Edea.
Can't believe Sorceress Edea is the wife of Balamb's headmaster...plus the fact that she leads the white SeeDs...She seems LOSHANG (is that the correct spelling?) before...heheheh..
Thumbs up if you're still playing in 2011 :D
MrApophis 3 months ago
The Dancers were doing MJ's "THRILLER!"
UberStrikeNZ 4 months ago
Never played it, but looks like it was a good game apart from all the wapanese nonsense.
marmaladekamikaze 6 months ago
@marmaladekamikaze costranza.jpg
riopieboy 5 months ago
ooooooooooooo extract to carbuncle XD
kancervero26 8 months ago
NOSTALGIA NOSTALGIA NOSTALGIA!!!!
Jtmoney363636 9 months ago
I was about 13 when I played this game and the plot was intense to me in this part of the game.
I was so excited if I was an anime character my whole body would glow and generate a violent storm.
Among many other things, the final battle was very outstanding too.
And Nobuo Uematsu did a great job with the music.
Unbeginner 10 months ago
Please switch to disc 2.
HilariousOperation 1 year ago 3
Did anyone else notice the dancers are dancing "Thriller"
bodfe34 1 year ago
Succession of Witches?... I thought another thing....
Uru19861 1 year ago
at 3.56 mine always freezes, stupid scratches -_-
Diamonddeathness 1 year ago
I am guessing this is the PC version? I respect that they were trying to make it more realistic by making the music seem as though it was coming from the float, but I really think the realism they get from this effect has nothing on the impact created by the full sound used in the PSX version. It is what really makes this part breathtaking, and this by comparison is disappointing.
42jemini 1 year ago
@42jemini The PC version is an awful port, but because it is the exact PSX game, same resolution, same bugs, same everything. It sucks bad.
hectoreguiluz 1 year ago
FITHOS LUSEC WECOS VINOSEC - Succession of Witches
hidedasausage 1 year ago
@hidedasausage You forgot that the word "love" is also in that anagram.
pesky0yuna 1 year ago
@pesky0yuna ..... meh
hidedasausage 1 year ago
@hidedasausage Well, not like it isn't something that's gone unnoticed in the fan community for VIII.
I was simply mentioning it.
pesky0yuna 1 year ago 2
@pesky0yuna Yea I know. I was just stating that it doesn't bother me that I forgot love.
hidedasausage 1 year ago
@pesky0yuna Haha very true, every FFVIII fan noticed the missing "love" the second we saw the comment :P
SleepyMongoose 11 months ago
The dancers in this video are epic. Love there costumes :D
jadedragon89110 1 year ago 7
Absolutely agreed.
Amazing ones, quite honestly - I admit that I'd love to cosplay them.
pesky0yuna 1 year ago 4
This scene made 8 my favorite FF game. I was playing 13 and it just doesnt have the same feeling @_@
thedragoonknight 1 year ago
This particular scenario in VIII is quite amazing, one of my personal favorites (specifically, the Edea, Seifer appearances).
XIII probably lacks the feeling, as it's essentially been "dumbed" down for a broader audience, another example of this is Biohazard/Resident Evil 5 now being more of an action genre game instead of it's initial roots coining the term Survival Horror.
Quite sad that it's like this nowadays.
pesky0yuna 1 year ago
I was looking around and I saw something for "FINAL FANTASY VIII-2"...not that totally bogus picture and video, this was something else. It was on some gaming site along with "FF Melody XIII...which looks very dark, and FF Hearasis XIII"
thedragoonknight 1 year ago
VIII-2, all of them have been completely fake. Square made no plans for a sequel, or to even show the game from the Witches Side - Edea/Seifer Possessed/Rinoa Possessed/"Ultimecia".
Final Fantasy Melody XIII, fake. No patent registered for it - was started when a user posted it as a new Fabula Nova Crystallis title whereas Final Fantasy Haerasis XIII (FF Heresy 13 in Latin) is an official, patented title that hasn't been officially "introduced".
pesky0yuna 1 year ago
"Final Fantasy VIII-2 : Legend of the Silver Lion" is a fan-made sequel made in RPG Maker.
The other images, were a prank modifying images of at the time upcoming title and the rest were modifications and hacks with the Japanese Final Fantasy VIII under the title of "Final Fantasy VIII GAIDEN"/FFVIII "Other Story".
Nothing for Final Fantasy Haerasis XIII has been released outside of patent confirmation and a general text logo-tag.
pesky0yuna 1 year ago
I know that some of them look convincing, however please check around and for proper sources such as the Patent Office, some gaming sites will also provide patent detail links.
Personally, I've pulled a few of those pranks myself in the past - so I know that they do go around.
pesky0yuna 1 year ago
hmm interesting...i think ill look up the RPG maker game :D
thedragoonknight 1 year ago
RPG Maker only does simple sprites.
If you want something else that's simple and easy to use - custom models, textures for The Sims PC.
Aside from that, it'd be custom maps, models and textures (outside of Kingdom Hearts ports) for Garry's Mod.
pesky0yuna 1 year ago
I dont remember some little sections of the music from this scene o.0
Darkyuna66 2 years ago
That's because the music I used is from the Final Fantasy VIII: FITHOS LUSEC WECOS VINOSEC official arrangement album.
pesky0yuna 2 years ago
Guys, how did squall survived edea's ice strike which impaled him through his abdomen?
(Don't suggest that Rinoa give him a phoenix down/.... eheheh!!!)
Molarbutchoy 2 years ago
Because Edea's attack didn't get him in his abdomen. It hit Squall's right shoulder. Being a magic attack, and not even the full one at that - it would have been easy to heal. But would hurt a lot after.
Look at 4:35 and see Squall's injury. It's nothing like Aerith's which means the Phoenix Down joke doesn't go with it.
pesky0yuna 2 years ago
I see..... I thought it hit in his abdomen.... well, i was still 11 years old when I played this game....
Thanks for the reply sir peskyOyuna...
Molarbutchoy 2 years ago
I see, well always worth double-checking the cutscenes.
Not a problem (btw, not sir - doesn't work for a female).
pesky0yuna 2 years ago
oh fuck!! Im sorry! I thought your a male! ahahahaha!! Didn't even check your profile first! I'm so sorry miss alice...
=P
Molarbutchoy 2 years ago
It's alright, thank you for apologizing. It just slightly irks me that people constantly assume that I'm a guy.
Anyway, glad I could help explain Squall's injury.
pesky0yuna 2 years ago
@Molarbutchoy
It was his shoulder, and they were surrouned by Galabadian soldiers instantly, so they could have cured him. Or Squall coulda had what I was thinking like some others were gonna do too, he had 100 Blizzga junctioned to his elemental defense ;D
GeekyHan714 1 year ago
@GeekyHan714
I see... thanks!
Molarbutchoy 1 year ago
Edea kinda reminds me of Maleficent.
IgnosticView101 2 years ago
FF8 is one of my favorites! I love Edea/Ultimecia as a villian, and I thought they did a great job with the story!!!!
samus1818 2 years ago
I just noticed that Squall is average heighted:
5'8'
TheCardin 2 years ago
Indeed. But the game's handbook and/or manual already tells you the main characters' height.
pesky0yuna 2 years ago
YUP.
Oh, can you give me info on that strange thing on Edea's back?
What is it? It's so detailed.
TheCardin 2 years ago
It's sort of a crest/crown. Think of it as a fantasy and/or surreal take on Ultimecia/Edea showing her position of power in her clothing.
It's sort of like a modernization of the older Queens of Englands' collars and/or crown styles.
pesky0yuna 2 years ago
i chad this song as my alarm clock for the last 2 years and i just changed it to the end theme of ff10 but i could never get bored of this song nor any of the songs from final fantasy-its amazing
derangedband 2 years ago
Edea is HOT and I liked her even more when she became good again.
belias360 3 years ago
apparently, the dancers in this video were actually doing michael jacksons 'thriller' dance when he was a zombie, i read it on the final fantasy wiki website. I dont know if its true though
safwanfoy 3 years ago
That's in the Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within, bonus movie disc (it came as a bonus with the Collector's Edition). It was purposely done on the bonus disc as a joke, they called it "Kelly's Thriller".
The dance in this isn't even close to Michael Jackson's Thriller one.
pesky0yuna 3 years ago
FFVIII would have made a fantastic movie... and still would. -cough-
elvickRULES 3 years ago 19
agree agree agree
questertale 2 years ago
Edea... *drool* hm, if it weren't for Yoshitaka Amano, she wouldn't have that funky shell on the side of her head. I knew Fithos, Lusec, Wecos, Venosec was different than in the OST for PSX.
EnragedSephiroth 3 years ago
loved the vid, and "fithos lusec wecos vinosec is of the best songs
jjjasonvideos 3 years ago
Edea's outfit somehow reminds me of Gackt's black "Le Ciel" outfit XD
I LOVE Fithos Lusec! Never gets old :D But I like the one at the begging better, with Seifer vs Squall
VanityElric2 3 years ago
Bah, Im thinking of Liberi Fatali >_>; Has "Fithos Lusec" inthe lyrics though lol. Sorry XD
VanityElric2 3 years ago
It is not "Fithos Lusec".
It is FITHOS LUSEC WECOS VINOSEC. In capitals for a reason seen in the Soundtrack and the game itself.
pesky0yuna 3 years ago
Yeah I know =^_^= I just dont feel like typing the whole thing sometimes XD
VanityElric2 3 years ago
Is there somewhere I can d/l this part (at the start of the video) of the theme? It's the same song as the Succession of Witches or whatever isn't it? I can't find it anywhere...
3866210110465 3 years ago
The theme name is "A Sacrifice", tried BlueLaguna?
pesky0yuna 3 years ago
Thanks, I got it anyway...off limewire of all places. ^_^
Anyone else think those dancers look like transvestites?
3866210110465 3 years ago
They aren't supposed to. They're supposed to look like demonic versions of Fujin and Raijin. To the factor of meaning to resemble Griever in the later sequence of the game.
It's an Amano design for them, as is Edea's original design... so they look a bit darker than most in this one.
pesky0yuna 3 years ago
You referring to the dancers? I don't care who they look like, I still think they're trannies :p
3866210110465 3 years ago
It is the same as succession of witches.
mangakid19 3 years ago
Actually it is not the same as Succession of Witches. Differences within the arrangement of the theme itself, lack of vocals, different pitches... etc multiple differences but with a repeating section of the Final Fantasy VIII main theme (Theme of the Witches, not the Theme of Love / Eyes on Me).
pesky0yuna 3 years ago
Actually this video is a little misleading. The first part is the Succession of Witches the real FITHOS LUSEC WECOS VINOSEC is the parade part.
Ultimatum9 3 years ago
In no way is this misleading, as I stated - I replaced the audio for the "Parade Theme" specifically which is why it was titled Fithos Lusec Wecos Vinosec.
pesky0yuna 3 years ago
I never got, how did Squall survive that ice stick going through him? Could someone fill me in?
1wingedauron 3 years ago
I woundered that to...And when he falls he falls like down a huge endless hole even tho there just on a float maybe 10ft of the ground xD
Xxfinalfantasyx 3 years ago
Actually, there were a group of Galbadian Soldiers' controlling the float from the inside.
(...What? Do some people think that EVERYTHING in the Final Fantasy series is run from some sort of magic? Well in VIII they actually use fuel to be more realistic to our world - as intended by the Square Staff).
That's how they got everyone at the jail, not to mention Leonhart was separated from the main party so he could be healed and was put up first for interrogation.
Hope that fills you in...
pesky0yuna 3 years ago
Woooah... At 4:00 that's got to HURT. I wish I could do that. Very epic indeed.
Akhiloth 3 years ago
Hahahaha, thank you.
pesky0yuna 3 years ago
It would be great if the decided to make this into a move... maybe a cg movie because other wise it would get messed up like most other movies based of video games.
Manballs 3 years ago
This song is epic. This game is epic.
B94241 3 years ago 18
Actually, they had planned to do one (or they had at least written a script for it) but with only minor changes from the game's storyline - more in conjunction with the original script which was edited to hell in the release of the game.
But it ended up in storage instead of being produced - just like the Final Fantasy X-2 Rikku game....
pesky0yuna 3 years ago
this is awesome. I want to play this game all over again. In my opininion all the final fantssy games are great. Some just stand out more than others. i may love VII, but even i would prefer a sequel or prequel to 6, 8 or 9.
Rikuo86 3 years ago
I looooved Edea, Liberi Fatali ALWAYS stuck with me. <3 I'd random start mumbling the 'words' to it. xD It's funny how well these scenes work together isn't it? This game could have easily been a movie. Far better than any FFVII movie could be too.
elvickRULES 3 years ago 3
XD I have to agree with you wholeheartedly.
(Admittedly, VI would have made a better movie too as VII is too over-rated...).
pesky0yuna 3 years ago
I have played all of the Final Fantasies, but FFVIII Is by far the best in my opinion. I get chills at every important part. I am in love with this game, and it will be my favorite forever.
jdj1222 4 years ago 3
He is not you moron, he was POSSESSED.
pesky0yuna 4 years ago
"Evil should be allowed to roam where it will if you let it stay inside you eventually you will become your own demon...."-- by Me this is a kick ass song im goin through evry ff again just for the hell of it awesome series great vid
NOTASAVIOUR 4 years ago
Thank you.
pesky0yuna 4 years ago
I just fucking love all Final Fantasy parts!
I'm just playing FFXII at the moment...
vikernesburzum 4 years ago
I love my Square / Square Soft / Square-Enix games.
Ah, I'm just waiting for すばらしきこのせかい (Subarashiki Kono Sekai / It's a Wonderful World) on the Nintendo DS at the moment as I've finished all of the Final Fantasies and Kingdom Hearts games at the moment fully... so I'm just replaying them. XD
pesky0yuna 4 years ago
It's been too long since I played this part of the game to know for sure, but even if the music in this video doesn't sync up exactly the way it did in the game, it sure sounds like it fits! :-D
Excellent work!
hypnometal 4 years ago
The reworked FITHOS LUSEC WECOS VINOSEC theme fits on the same time frame, it just starts of with a very low/quiet chanting.
pesky0yuna 4 years ago
That part was great! If I wasn't like a hardcore FFVIII fan, I wouldn't have guessed it was edited together.. and LOL @ The lizards.. my first two times through the game I forgot to draw carbuncle from them.. I was like. Doh!
MakeMusicNotBombs 4 years ago
Yeah! XD
My basic rule was: If it bites, then you can and will Draw from it.
pesky0yuna 4 years ago
I heard Squaresoft appologized that they didn't wait to release FF8 on the PS2 because it would have been a better game. If you ask me there're a lot more complex emotions in FF8 than in FF7. More rounded characters.
Beautifully done, by the way.
Yrusama 4 years ago 3
They did, and it was profusely said too.I agree with you, I honestly don't see what was so great about VII, it wasn't the first game to have a character die or a crazed antagonist who destroyed towns *cough*Kefka, Ex-Death, Zeromus... etc*COUGH*.
Thank you.
pesky0yuna 4 years ago
Well some aspects that FF VII had carried over to VIII, to be honest i regard myself a VII fan, but I really like VIII almost as much, but i think VII kinda revolutionized gaming no just graphic wise but story wise as well
KyokugenRyo 4 years ago
Not many aspects, only a couple of minor changes to the battle system, minor styling for the junction system and menu system images. Not many aspects at all. Final Fantasy VII was rushed and in my opinion is highly over-rated and is really only regarded to be the best as most "FF Fans" joined the bandwagon with VII.
pesky0yuna 4 years ago
i Love this game
jimmy29a 4 years ago
I think theres a bit of 'Succession of the Witches' there too, im prolly wrong :P
Haz1500 4 years ago
What exactly does FITHOS LUSEC WECOS VINOSEC mean?
((Second favorite clip from game..!!))
Heartless9900 4 years ago
FITHOS LUSEC WECOS VINOSEC is an anagram of Succession of the Witches. Don't believe me? Eliminate the letters.
WandererInfinitas 4 years ago
Oh yeah, the word LOVE is left over.
WandererInfinitas 4 years ago
those lizards, i dont remember that part
ff 7 had greatest story though
BlackOnBlueSilver 4 years ago
Edea/Ultimecia envoked them from the Deiling City Gateway, they're what you fight before you rescue Rinoa before proceeding into the Clock Tower to continue to mission to take out Edea.
pesky0yuna 4 years ago
It certainly does make you want to play FFVIII again. Even today, FFVIII is a game & a half. Exellent!
Rich7714 5 years ago
i so miss this scene...never forget it again...felt like age 16 again
simongan00 5 years ago
i feel like playing FF8 again..
ragennatsume 5 years ago
me too XD
AnarchistGoth 5 years ago
I know why I love FFVIII.
Shasdorius 5 years ago
Creepy! I like the parade part everytime i play the game. I also got scared when she broke through the window
Sims247 5 years ago
They should so do a voice version of FF8, can't wait to hear how Edea sounds like =3!
5 stars!
rheia 5 years ago
Can't believe Sorceress Edea is the wife of Balamb's headmaster...plus the fact that she leads the white SeeDs...She seems LOSHANG (is that the correct spelling?) before...heheheh..
aFinalFantasyAddict 5 years ago
Sorry, I don't know it's other names but on all of the soundtracks... the song names in the Album are always the same.
Just type in FAYE WONG - EYES ON ME or whatever song you're looking for and you'll find it.
pesky0yuna 5 years ago
Do you know the name of the soundtrack of FF8??
I don't mean 'Eyes on me', but it's chinese or korean version. I want its name, please!
sanjak 5 years ago
There is only a Japanese version called "Summer's Album" otherwise the Chinese version is the same as the original from Final Fantasy VIII.
pesky0yuna 4 years ago
Hey, that was pretty awesome. ;) Edea's theme in the beginning is beautiful.
nanthimus 5 years ago
How is it scary?
The Edea Intro?
I just used the same music as I have the FFVIII Soundtrack.
pesky0yuna 5 years ago
scare
qhia 5 years ago
How?
It isn't scary (Not scare.)
pesky0yuna 4 years ago