Red Alert 3 Beta - Allied Cryo+Bomber rush

[MetalicaFan2007]

i have to say Rising sun has worst rush dojo is easy w8 till they develop u got 10-15 seconds between construction and troop build too set dog up then 1 javelin best rush for me is soviet sickle they usualy put up walls expecting terror drones and seal there own fate for a neatly placed kill box for a flea jump/ harvester rape

[ShantyManCan]

This rush is too easy to counter, As empire you can block it and Dojo rush at the same time, Empire is king of rushing

[Fanggle]

@ShantyManCan i don't know a single effective empire rush other than IW spam for empire.

[ShantyManCan]

@Fanggle Dojo Rush, Tengu-Chopper VX rush both can be very good

[Fanggle]

@ShantyManCan and both can be countered with ease with any faction.

[ShantyManCan]

@Fanggle Less easily than Cryo-Vindicator rush. 5 Chopper VXs can take down a Con Yard in seconds. Empire Infantry is very powerful however they are hindered by lack of anti-air until third tier, but that takes too long to be a good rush. Allies Air force rushes are overused and everyone knows how to counter them.

[Fanggle]

@ShantyManCan good cryorush followed up by a MCV push works very well for me in top100. Ofcourse if you can get 5 vx in his base they work very well. The trick is to get them there unscouted which is nearly impossible so vx rush isn't effective.

[ShantyManCan]

@Fanggle If they don't scout VX's are so good though it all depends on who you are playing, because Tengus can deal with jets easily enough because you will always out number them, and then they can go onto the ground and distract if needs be while VXs take down high value targets.

[luckiestboss96]

2 years later and top 100 players still cryo rushing

[sebby786786]

thx for this tactic.. in about 7 matches i won 6 and lost 1 and i got from like rank 730 to about 600 or somin

i wud recommened this tactic on the ring of fire map (but playing a 1 on 1) with 10k (best playing against soviet)

[dommafia]

This strat is very outdated, I don't know what has been changed in the patches... use @ own risk :P

[Savior20061]

Dude what's up with the fucked up Vindicator voice? It's supposed to be a Spanish pilot, not a Harrier from Red Alert 2.

[Fanggle]

@Savior20061 its in the beta

[RsScorptile]

Doesn't the collector receive less cash while shrunk? That'd make sense to me at least >.>

[VaderGaming]

I'd like to know this too.

In the Newest update, not the old one.

~Muzey

[dommafia]

it didnt in the original game, I thought it did but I tested it out and it turned out to not make it faster, because of the loading, unloading animations.

[memzwafu]

atleast you still have to do recon to know what trouble he might be brewing in his base before you could think of an IFV counter offense. ayt? so, still, a clever strat.

[TheLiveringPaiload]

Fast air is a very noobish tactic. You got cryos when I have 2, 3 ifv's, maybe with guardians. It's very easy to stop.

[jonnyknows]

tell me why the heck you would build a WarFactory in an allies mirror O_O

[TheLiveringPaiload]

Hahaha xD Explain me pls what tactics you want to use against allies - fast air? pk spam? idiot...

[jonnyknows]

umm you can build the airbase... and then build apollo. since they have vinds.. they can't outnumber your apollo with thier apollo. dont even complain about them destroying the airbase it's only 1000$ and that's the same price as an apollo and less than 1 vind itself. most good players would never go WF in allies mirror. you're dumb don't call me an idiot because I garentee i could beat you 1 v 1.

the money difference in going fast air is better than any WF build.

[TheLiveringPaiload]

With apollo you won't attack your enemy. Basically... Why not? Give me your EA ID, Voe_Deo is mine. We can play anytime, but remember, I'm a Imberium, not an Allies player.

[jonnyknows]

by imberium you tiberium? or imperial? if you are a rising sun player i'm an ex allies player... but if i did fight you with allies vs empire you wouldn't stand a chance. but now i'm soviets so.. yes we can try and play sometime. You can find me as 7H3.0N1Y.0N3

[nanathenai]

it works, therefore it PWNS !

[gsiddarth]

power plant -> airfield (2 apollos, 1 vindicator) -> refinery -> clearance -> 1 cryocopter

this build order makes it near impossible to stop a cryo rush in the very beginning of the game. not sure if it works post-patch though

[somejoeschmoe]

has this been nerfed? im not sure if it works anymore

[modernbutler1]

It still works believe me

[schizophrenicnet]

this is a very good rush, thx for posting it.

[soaseMATTS]

GOOD STUFF :D

[StealthMonkey25]

your computer sucks, the graphics are shit, nothing against you but dude get a better computer

[dommafia]

Have you seen the other videos? I just forgot to put my graphics back up after testing something and recorded it that way. You comment made me laugh though so here's some cookies for ya xD

[carnivoriousleaf]

did you shrink your collector so it would move faster?

Also, I'm sorry, but can you explain to me how garrisoning works?

[dommafia]

yeah I shrunk them for that reason but I later found out that it doesn't make that much faster due to how the crane works.

[dommafia]

oh and I'm not sure what you need to know about garrisoning .

[sikamika9]

crap i dont like theese cheesy grafics ill stick to cnc3 i thibk.... alredy disapointed in ra3 :O

[dommafia]

dude, those graphics are on their LOWEST settings, watch my "Empire Harvester Rush" video to see the full graphics.

[dokaw]

That seems like it's almost too effective. I smell a nerf to the Allied tech tree....

[dommafia]

err Where have you been? They already nerfed the cryocopter in the last patch ;)  This was pre patch but still effective if done right.

[dokaw]

Oh uhh, actually I haven't been playing this much. I've just played enough C&C in general to know that killing Harvesters in one hit is outright broken =P

[dommafia]

well not when it has to be done with VERY expensive unit with high risk of failing ;)

[newbiedestroyer]

hey srry 4 double post but can cryo-tech freeze bulidingz or just units?

[dommafia]

It can freeze any buildings (neutral, yours, enemy's

[sepftw]

no, thats the best thing you can do wiv a allys ...

gr8 job dude... ! :)

[mingkonzentrat]

well done nice tactics. ya have any other r a 3 vidos published ?

[dommafia]

Yea I can make more, specially with the new maps. I just didn't think people were still interested xD

[BCarotene]

really good strategy, you are very modest

[newbiedestroyer]

smart idea 2 use the cryo chopper 2 shriek the harvester 2 make it faster

1)does the the cryo chopper have any offense(besides the freeze and shriek?)

2)r the bomber use the Century Bomber?

[dommafia]

1. cryos are defensive aircraft and those are its 2 abilities.

2. those bomber planes I used I called Vindicators. Century Bombers are bigger and have more bombs and can rape many buildings with big splash damage :)

[gun5moke]

Sweet strat and you explained it well. But I wouldn't know shit.

Is it worth buying kane's revenge to play the beta? I haven't played rts since warcraft 3 shareware on floppies.

[dommafia]

hey smoke, my fellow QWer :) The game is really good but at this point is not worth buying Kane's Wrath to get in the beta. They are giving out keys 10,000 at a time and they are doing it in order of who bought Kane's wrath first.

So if you buy it now you won't get a key like for a month. I would just wait for the open beta when fileplanet will offer the keys.

[itchytf]

Cool strat, cheers

[Forakus]

Nice vid. Thanks

[dommafia]

np ;)