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  • 2.3 vs 5.5

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  • Porsche, Mercedes, and BMW used to get aggravated by Volvo in the group a DTM days. They'd get desperate enough to take Volvo brakes and put them on their vehicles to keep up in the corners. :D

  • T5's are renowned for being quick, but this isn't the generation T5 that was introduced when the W210 was around. It would be a completely different story.

    That's like putting a S60 T5 against a W211 E55 or E63, it would well, get minced.

    Like i say, the T5's are renowned for being quick, that's why police use them. I'm a HUGE Merc fan, well done to the T5.

    However the ECU mods on an W210 wouldn't do as much as the ECU mods on a T5!

  • the Mercedes has about 220 more hp than the Volvo (476:250) - I don't think it was a real race

  • @Spongschbob Your nickname represents you so well asshole...your sense about engines and cars are under the sea..

  • @maurizianodaniel LOL, sure

  • Not bad for half the displacement

  • NO! NO!! NO!!! THE VOLVO DRIVER DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO DRIVE THAT S60 IT COULDVE DONE BETTER!!!

  • Volvo S60 T6 (New one) CAN FUCK UP EVERY FUCKING CAR IN THE STREET!!!

    And i don't even want to talk about S80 V8!!! VOLVO POWER

    Fuck Saab...those little kids can't drive.

  • @VolvoEP

    What in the hell are you talking about with the new S60? Are you being sarcastic?

    I walked a new S60 T6 HARD in my '10 MS3 with an intake and TIP. Out of 4 pulls on the highway from about 60 - 120 I pulled at LEAST 8 carlengths with the gap increasing as speed increased and the results were the same each run. The runs were clean with three honks.

    So no, it can't "fuck up every car in the street", and the T6 S60 is faster than the S80 with the 4.4 V8.

  • @sleeksilver

    As far as performance goes, if you want to tune a Volvo I'd go for the S60 T5 2.4 litre.

    The S60 T6 and S80 V8 are SLOW for their BHP figure (both 300bhp + )

    A stage 3 T5 is getting close to 400bhp, high pressure turbo and you need serious performance to beat one.

    Lets forget the S60R, it might have 300bhp and AWD but the engine cant take as much power as a modded T5.

  • v8 vs 5 cylinder oviously gunna have more top end kick

  • If i want to drive a merc, i `ll take a taxi.... Volvo rules any time

  • Als ik in en merc wil rijden neem ik wel en taxi....

  • 5 cyl v s 8 cyl who will win?

  • @Thehaxorfull1 it hasn't a big differens . if we compare the volvo s80 v8 vs the golf r . both got a freeze on 250km/h . the golf r accelerets MUCH MUCH faster . wich will win ? The golf r . golf r 0-100 5.5 sec

    the s80 v8 0-100 6/7 sec golf r 0-200 14-15sec s80 v8 -19/20 sec .

  • @Thehaxorfull1 are you retarded ?

  • That's shit (: Why this shitty mercedes ? Why not Mercedes SLR (:

  • That's impressive.

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  • I see nothing else but unfair races here on youtube. volvo t5 vs every car wich is 12 years older. lmfao.

  • bad driver. he could have had him.

  • one more thing... VERY FUNNY... a friend of mine owns a Focus RS thats why I know the car very well and I like it. However, he recently had the timing belt service to make and ordered the parts at his local Ford dealership. I nearly laughed my ass of when I saw the sticker where you write the mileage on... EPIC PICTURE!! xD

    take a look: img693(.)imageshack(.)us(slash­)img693(slash)4686(slash)fotop­mn(.)jpg

  • I respect ford and i love the Focus RS. But there is just no point in giving the Volvo's no respect. They are good cars and you get a very good car for a good price.

    Don't get me wrong Ford's quality is not bad and I like some of the cars and parts they make. I absolutely love the M66 transmission (lovely!) and the handling/suspension of the Focus RS but I don't like it when some militant Fanboys tell shit about another car make.....

  • Volvo was owned by Ford and now Gheely owns Volvo. But that doesn't matter as much as you might think. All Departments and especially development is and was independent from Ford. Ford used Volvos engines in Focus ST and RS. The engine from S60R/V70R is just slightly modified and then build into Focus RS. A fact is that Ford used Volvo's technology in their cars..... An exception is the M66 manual transmission that was developed by Ford/Getrac.

  • wtf that volvo is fast

  • My dad has a T5 and it keeps up with porsche boxters !!!

  • just dont claim shit when you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. There was never a HPT 220hp T5 in S60 and V70.

    Do your research before you claim things... Thats the same thing with the claim some guys make that the focus ST and RS have engines developed by Ford which is just wrong. Transmission and Engine on both cars come from Volvo and only Volvo.

    Thats a fact and is stated on several car magazines....

  • @nanth85 yes ok there volvo engines but tell me this who owned volvo when the engines where designed and build, ummmm ohh yes it was ford so that means its a ford engine and was put in the volvo first cause the st wasnt in production

  • @ToonARMY08 let me tell you this....: Nearly all engines of the newer generation Volvos where developed by Volvo and that is a fact. You can even read in known car magazines and press that the engines from Focus ST (Volvo V50, C30 T5 engine) and Focus RS (Volvo S60/V70R engine). Exceptions are the old 850s and older S80 where they used Audi Diesel Engines (2,5 TDI). The V8 that can be found in XC90 and S80 II is developed in a joint venture of Yamaha/Volvo.

  • wrong.....the 2005 S60 T5 with 260hp stock. The engine in the Focus ST comes from the C30/V50 T5 and the engine in the Focus RS is from the S60R/V70R.....

    The 2005-2007 T5 (260hp) on V70 and S60 is technically the same engine as in S60R/V70R except more bore, other fuel injectors (T5 395cc, R 465cc) and other software... everything else on this car is the same as on the R.

    With good software (custom), big exhaust+downpipe, k&n filter you can get it EASILY to 330-350hp depending on condition..

  • that volvo is a 220 bhp 5cilinder in line same as ford focus st

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  • The S60 doesn't have a V engine it is an inline 5 cylinder.

  • wär auch noch mal schöner wenn volvo schneller als Mercedes wäre!!!

  • The fun part, it's an old AMG, with an inefficient automatic gearbox, and it has some more weight than the s60. Try to challenge the C63/E63 /////AMG with ANY factory tuned volvo. But hey, it ain't weird, that happens when you challenge a 8 cylinder engine with a small 5 cylinder.

  • It doesn't matter if it's an old amg or not, the fact is that it has a much bigger engine with much more hp, and that the Volvo can still keep up pretty good.

    it's just nice to see that a Volvo T5 can follow a E55 AMG in a strait line, while nobody would think that it could.

    Just like 90% of BMW owners think that they're faster than anything else :-).

  • I'll be 100% honest with you.

    The E55 is old, and transmission alone steal 21% of the power, and its heavy and it has an automatic gearbox. If you want a real comparison, get a model of a newer date, and set it against the t5. And i bet the t5 cant cope with that. And one other thing, though the t5 can keep up in some degree with the E55, remember it is a N/A engine, and the t5 has forced induction. Not to mention the huge advantage of a V engine.

  • the E55 is almost just as fast as the E63, so not that much difference there. Anyway I was trying to say that a car that is considered to be very fast is followed by a 2.5l 5cyl Volvo T5 with much less hp, It's just great to see :-).

  • It's just that everyone thinks that these cars are so much faster than anything else because of all kinds of theoretical info. In reality however, it's a different story. Just like I once raced a 630 with my Saab 9-3 1.9tid, he had troubles overtaking me in 4th gear acceleration (of course he smoked me after that..). Much depends on the driver aswell.

  • Ok, lets add a turbo on the E55, and see the difference.

    The major difference between a turbo engine and a normal aspirated engine is like that. Nothing "special" about the s60.

  • I'm saying that the Volvo has much less hp than the e55 and yet it can follow the merc, I'm not saying that there is anything special about the engine.

    The e55 should simply smoke the Volvo with that much more hp, NA or not :-).

  • Correct, but that's the favor of turbo engines.

  • A turbo engine with 250 hp is certainy not any faster than a NA engine with 250 hp, or what are you trying to say?

  • A turbo engine, is build puposefully to compensate for the lack of size, which makes it very "agressive", it can seem like a fast way to get "cheap" horses, but real monsters are in more cylinders and more size, just look how that good old Merc cruises, they are neck and neck, but in top speed, NM is the key.

  • That's correct, I know that the Merc has the better NA engine but like I said: it has much more hp but it can't pull away from the Volvo, that's what I'm talking about. In top speed and response the Merc will probably be better.

    If the Volvo wasn't turbocharged it would get smoked, but it would also have even less hp so there's no point in comparing that.

    Give the Volvo the same amount of hp and Nm and weight and it will be faster than the merc, that's a fact.

  • @350kmh mercs are built out of jelly these days! Great build quality is not there anymore.

  • I agree 100%, but the same with volvo, saab and other high quality cars. Modern cars aren't half as good as they used to be.

  • @2URBO2 what the fuck are you on about?

    e55 V8 is from 1997-2002, and from what we know that could be a s60 t5 2000-model since they range from 2000-2010 so that merc could very well be newer than the s60. Secondly the t5 is NOT an V engine.... where the hell did you get that from? Thirdly... what does the forced induction have to do with the results? Its the way the car was built, its like saying an elite athlete has better advantage cause he is taller or something.... its the way he use it!!!

  • benz have 130N/m more, and 50hp more.

  • And is heavier and less aerodynamic.

  • for turbowilo

    so who cares if it sounds like tractors

    it beat your every &$(*& car

    hahahaha,you bastard

  • what the hell?? sorry mate, you can do to a D5 whatever you want, it will never be a sporty engine. it sounds like a 5 cylinder tractor, and the petrols are sounding and driving much, much better then the D5.. for the record, i own a modded C7O 2.4 twith 400 Nm, and that is far from pushing the engine.. ,

  • du skämmer ju ut volvo

  • VA fan ska han bestämma om han ska växla..Va fan töj ut på växlarna

  • Please, get a driver in the Volvo who dont have to be told when to change gear.

  • det räcker det räcker!! lol!

  • this volvo probably cost half of what the mercedes cost and has three less cylinders and still manages to keep up quite well. Who is really the loser?

  • @oskeisa the car with more understeer...I think the valva

  • @oskeisa your mom

  • @oskeisa thats make no difference that the volvo has 3 cylinders less, it haves a big turbo!! put a turbo on the E55 and look what happens then.

    But yeah S60 T5 very nice fast car, but only in straight line.

  • @oskeisa Yeah but technic has advanged in those years.... lol.

  • @oskeisa You obviously pay for alot more than just the extra three cylinders and horsepower, so pointing it out is absolutely meaningless. You're right about what youre saying, but why are you a loser because you want further exclusivity and comfort? Nonetheless I'm amazed by how quick the volvo actually is, surprisingly close race.

  • @oskeisa haha no you can actually buy the merc in the video for next to the same price if not cheaper right now then the volvo.

  • wtf Volvo losser? I don´t understand. Rider of volvo haven´t legs? =D

  • Why are you guys moping the volvo did exceptionally good against a V8 Merc; you think its fun seeing a Vollie in your mirror and you paid a lump of bucks for your merc...Go Volvo

  • I think,than Volvo is better than Mercedes. But who know...

  • eh? Better on what?

  • thats exactly what was goin thru my mind when i saw this vid.

  • @Xacksies A lump of bucks? Dude, the E55 AMG is cheap. You can get one for like $20,000, even less if you look around. People need to stop forgetting about the economy dip, Cars are CHEAP now. You can get a Dodge Viper GTS for $30,000, a 2002 Porsche 911 Turbo for $30,000-$35,000.... the list goes on and on. Car prices have taken a huge dive, and you can get an insane automobile for between $20k-$30k. Volvo's are cool, don't get me wrong, but come on, these aren't new cars we are talking about.

  • @xilix 20000 is still "a lump of bucks" compared to the volvo you can buy an s70 t5 for well under 10,000 with performance parts included in that price

  • @xilix An e55 AMG for 20 grand? That sounds like bullshit haha not gunna lie. Anyway, you can get volvos for 9-10 grand now, so its double the price even with your super lower price for an AMG

  • @akajambas I got my 2001 s60 T5 last year for $2100 US. fucking beat that!

    Craigslist FTW!

  • @lebensraummetal holy hell how many miles?

  • @akajambas 141000

  • @lebensraummetal ahh thanks why

  • @akajambas i've seen plenty of volvos with more miles than that going for more. 140 thousand miles is a volvo thats just warming up!

  • @lebensraummetal Bout 240 000mls just to run the motor in.

  • not really a fair test, the AMG should've been against the S60R not a T5

  • It´s not a standard T5.

  • irrelivant as its not a standard amg either...

  • I know, but what´s the point in saying "it´s not a fair test, should be an S60R" ?

  • because with a few mods the t5 can make up 350, but with a simple ecu remap the R makes upto 400, and as the AMG is the best merc do it should be up against the best Volvo did. don't get me wrong i love both merc and volvo, ive only owned one or the other in the last 5 years or so, but test should only be the best they do vs the best they do, otherwise a bit pointless... like putting linford christy up against roseanne barr, even with an energy drink to upgrade them, they arent made the same

  • Haha! Roseanne Barr, is she still alive?

  • lol, god knows, is linford christy for that matter? lol

  • Kretschmer01: "Haha! Roseanne Barr, is she still alive?"

    Yes, and still as MASSIVE as she always was.

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  • lol, seems a bit redundant to tell people that diesel it torquier than petrol, everybody knows that. and it doesn't change the fact that its the fuel of the devil and makes even the smallest of cars sound like a truck... Petrol all the way!

  • p.s there is no way a diesel car would beat an AMG E-Class

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  • Lol S60R 400nm torque, 0-100 5.7 sec 250kmh orginal, and then your slow D5 with less torque 340nm 0-100 9.5 sec 210 topspeed.

    Even a T5 is much faster then your D5.

    So for your story the S60r has more torque and its hell faster then a D5 believe me.

    try to race against a lotus elise with 120hp vs your D5, i know wo wins.

    And for the record more torque does not mean always more speed then cars with less torque.

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  • I just wrote to you sleeper service nad then i noticed this comment, you will only beat an elise on the motorway or fast dual carrige way so i'm guessing that is what you meant, however, you won't beat an M3 in any senario in D5 and that is a fact.

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  • d5 is a fabulous engine, I know because I have one. But let's be serios, compared to a t5 it doesn't stand a chance. Even my previous passat 1.8T with upgraded ecu would flush the toilet with the d5. I made lot's of tests with the d5 and the previous passat.

  • Nothing wrong with your D5 sleeperservice, but a S60 R will rip you to shreds without any mods. So would my 850 T5 with 280bhp. In fact, the 850 produces maximum torque around 2000rpm because it has a small high pressured turbo. So it has a all the benefits without the lag.

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  • You got your arse kicked by a Fiesta Zetec but you won a race against an M3? What? Are for real mate or is this just a total wind up?

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  • I live in the UK so I'm well aware of the difference between an A and a B road.

    The fact remains, you claim you beat an M3 on an A-road but got taken out by a Fiesta zetec on a B-road. Do you really expect anyone in their right mind to take you seriously after that comment?

    Seriously, you have no idea how ridiculous some of your comments are.

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  • stock s60 t5 250bhp

    new s60 t5 260bhp

  • The 319 hp for the E55 are Rwhp while the Volvo's estimated engine power is 325 hp with approx. 12 % transmission loss (according to the tuner). The weight for the Volvo was aprox. 1700 kg with two persons.

  • @bobban7719 i find it hard to believe that the e55 had 319rwhp with just ecu and exaust,afterall its not forced induced so its not gonna respond much to those mods like any n/a car,i could be wrong tho,just my opinion..good run nonetheless.

  • @durin23 its an amg v8 so yes thats real numbers without forced induction tuning still applies with a v8 you can gain 10 - 15 rwhp with just a better exhaust and everycar is different some cars can actually gain nothing if they have their intake and exhaust enginered perfectly

  • what is the hp/torque difference?

  • My E55 in the video has 319 Rwhp and weights 1820KG, the Volvo has aprox 325 HP and ought to weigh around 1600 KG..?..

  • but the s60 stock don't have 325 hp, have 260 ~ 270...

  • Well, no one said this one was stock right? Read the info :-)

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