Carol Shea Porter Denies We are Turning Socialist

[NHTPC]

In the background: disgraced State Rep Timothy Horrigan and taking video off to the right, Israel Pierre, an SEIU worker from Mass who is likely an illegal alien.

[sealvr77]

This lady is an IDIOT!! This is the REASON why we are all so pissed off!!! They are CLOWNS!!! .. and they are DRIVING this great country into the GROUND with their ill-thought agendas... hoping... hoping... like Holden Caulfield to save the little poor man... WHAT ABOUT US??? Why can't these clowns support the AMERICAN PEOPLE??? Because we aren't the majority any more... ILLEGALS are!!!

[EileenTOlson]

GO we the people!!! VOTE OUT politicians who voted for  health care tyranny

[savagegalt]

END THE FED Rand Paul 2010 Ron Paul For It All 2012 END THE PRIVATE FED RESERVE BANK

[Licmycat]

The Republicans are mostly the decendents of the slave-owners who HATE the constitution and want slaves again! Read ur history about the civil war! It's not over YET!

[IneedTodisco]

look. I don't care what happend in the past, it's the past and you can't change it now. But for right this moment there is a bigger threat other then "The Republicans are mostly the decendents of the slave-owners who hate the constitution" Be the way Abraham lincoln was a Republican and thanks to him no more slaves.

[Mr02shadow]

Never trust a woman who hold`s on to her maiden name.

[NHMntnHIGH]

Shea (sheep) porter is part of the problem in DC it is time for us to send her home in 2010.

[Konform2zoidberg]

Just to clarify, Socialism is public control of the means of production either directly (communes, syndicates, worker cooperatives) or indirect (State Owned Enterprises).

What Obama is doing is a continuation of the bush policy of conservatorship, (glorified corporate welfare).

I would be astonished if anyone in the Obama administration had read Marx, Lerner, Minsky, Stiglitz or heck, just Paul Krugman in his administration.

[Rhiannon003]

I'm glad that we're becoming more aware as a nation. I guess I am excited that we could become a nation that truly appreciates who we are again; I'm not excited about what's going on in general because there is too much that could go wrong, there's too much at stake. I'd rather it just never got to this point in the first place.

[Rhiannon003]

it's a very powerful(and getting more powerful) portion of the populace too

It's going to be a long, nailbiting year ahead

this video gives me hope though

information is reaching people and they don't seem to be afraid to ask questions... that's what I hope to see more of

[JohnGaltPodcast]

It is a nailbiting time, you're right. But in the midst of all this turmoil and confrontation, it gives me a little bit of what Chris Matthews would call a "tingle up my leg."

I think one of the greatest threats to freedom is taking it for granted. We've been so blessed in this country with liberty (despite the occasional stumble) that we've started treating it like a given, when it certainly isn't in a lot of parts of the world.

This is all a struggle, but it's an eye-opening one, I think.

[Rhiannon003]

very well said John

I do have an arguement with some who believe that the way to combat it is violence and they come from a completely different place, when it comes to their beliefs about the root of the problem, than I do

at least they are aware and informed... I'd much rather debate them than someone who spouts off stuff like "republitards" or "racists"

[JohnGaltPodcast]

I agree. The way to defeat this evil is in the arena of ideas and at the ballot box. I pray that it doesn't come to the point where Americans have to take up arms against each other (although obviously it wouldn't be the first time).

Sadly, there's a very ugly portion of the populace out there who doesn't WANT this to be the USA anymore, and who hates even the IDEA of this nation. I'm not sure they're willing to let it be settled in a civil manner.

But I'll keep hoping.

[eksdem]

Great video! Thanks for posting it.

[chessgame1960]

The communist are not coming they are here.

[bundlesjr]

This is definitely a 2009 "Red Scare" folks. I love how history replays itself.

[JohnGaltPodcast]

Actually, because of the declassified documents from the fallen Soviet Union, we know now that it wasn't a "scare"; there were myriad folks working as dupes or out and out agents for the Communist infiltration of the country.

Yes, you can argue about the methods to combat it, but it WASN'T just paranoia.

Similarly, given the stuff that's going on currently, I don't think it's being reactionary to ask questions and air dissent (which is supposedly the highest form of patriotism, remember?).

[cals0502]

Stimulus Accountability Czar - Earl Devaney Sudan Czar - J. Scott Gration

TARP Czar - Herb Allison

Technology Czar - Aneesh Chopra

Terrorism Czar - John Brennan

Urban Affairs Czar - Adolfo Carrion Jr. Weapons Czar - Ashton Carter

WMD Policy Czar - Gary Samore

[cals0502]

Energy and Environment Czar - Carol Browner Faith-Based Czar - Joshua DuBois Government Performance Czar - Jeffrey Zients Great Lakes Czar - Cameron Davis Green Jobs Czar - Van Jones

Guantanamo Closure Czar - Daniel Fried... Health Czar - Nancy-Ann DeParle

Information Czar - Vivek Kundra

Intelligence Czar - Dennis Blair

Mideast Peace Czar - George Mitchell

Pay Czar - Kenneth R. Feinberg

Regulatory Czar - Cass R. Sunstein

Science Czar - John Holdren

[KamikazeKoscki]

911 Inside job they're all murders in congress! They believe in Torture and stealing all tax payers money. Corporations are suppose to pay taxes on their surplus & profits, not individuals on wages & labor. Health Care violates the 10 Amendment !

[Nogard229]

What is this solace, vibrating purely at the misfortune of others. What is this grievance that befalls me at the thought of arguments infinitum, held to be objective, but it was in vain--Please forgive me.

[janbrady9]

Anyone else feel like we are reliving McCarthy era paranoia? The communists are coming!!!!

[Loathomar]

We have lost rights and freedoms under the Bush government, and Obama has not done enought to return those freedoms, but we have not lost freedoms durring the Obama Government. And, beleive or not, the US government is a Socialist government. Socialist securety... It's in the damn name! Medicare, education, roads, fireman, police are all socialist programs. Socialist programs are niether good or bad, only there reasults are good or bad. Some are good and some are not, stop the idealogy.

[Zoklor]

Wow, she does not get it. They want to know about the czars, not the elected officials. Typical democrat party to try and blur the questions. They should change the name to the party of Lemmings.

[lenny380]

Stalin could not have done this any better. they didn't return your letter with an answer because they don't care anymore.

[bayfly12]

sayyes i see your point its under your hat but i see you want some one ealse to pay for your H C when did you become my problem pay for your own H C i do its called working for a living you give people money ie subsidizies they will buy any thing with it but what it for the goverment f's everthing it puts it hands on

[janbrady9]

Oh dear god... I had to stop when she said she was afraid of the "czars". Wow. Definition of czar in the context of the white house or let's say a business:

"An appointed official having special powers to regulate or supervise an activity: a racetrack czar; an energy czar."

I work for a major American corporation and we have czars. Wall street has czars. All major businesses have czars. It's just a title that represents a certain amount of authority, like manager or director.

[Zoklor]

Yeah, but these are people who are making and influencing policy for elected officials. There is no oversight for them and they are not vetted like other appointees.

[janbrady9]

Every administration appoints czars... it's nothing new.

[cals0502]

Yeah but not on this level. Previous presidents maybe had one or two but not on this extreme level. All czars are appointed unconstitutionally.

[janbrady9]

Umm no. That is completely incorrect. All presidents appoint interdepartmental coordinators, aka "czars". It was in fact Ronald Reagan who first referred to them as "czars". This is another non issue that distracts from the real challenges we are facing in this country. Can we please start focusing on the real issues?

[JesusIsSocialist]

Duh!

[kev2m6]

Actually it was FDR who began the American usage term of czar. It came about as FDR implemented the New Deal. Nice try in trying to use the old "Ronald Reagan did it too" defense. Reagan did use the term as every President since FDR has.

[SAYESTOHEALTHCARE1]

the woman is quoting glen beck ,,,lol she says shes not stupid,, but she repeats misinformation as truth,,,and that guy spouting off was removed for disrupting this meeting

[PimpOutMyPelican]

Allow me to correct your misinformation that could not be further from the truth: you will not be able to keep your private insurance. Why is this so hard for YOU to get? Have you not read the bill? Or are you just a talking-point-spewing puppet?

[SAYESTOHEALTHCARE1]

Requiring every American to pay their fair share rather than decline getting insurance &d refusing to pay doctor's bill benefits those of us who are paying for insurance. Do you want to continue to pay inflated premiums? What part of this don't you understand?

[PimpOutMyPelican]

I only understood the last two sentences of your reply, but I can tell you that if this plan is passed, you will pay more for the very insurance you have now.

[SAYESTOHEALTHCARE1]

ITS NOT A TAKEOVER! this is the problem...people like you who are happy(nothing changes for you !! i think its more like you just dont give a crap about your neighbor...what about the 47 million of us who have no access to healthcare?thats who this is for,,,,if you like your health insurance YOU CAN KEEP IT WITH NO CHANGES!!,, WHY IS THIS SO HARD FOR YOU TO GET?,YOU ARE JUST SELFISH? AND OR "NOT VERY BRIGHT..THERE IS NO "TAKEOVER" ITS JUST COMPLETE PARANOIA,,,AND SELFISHNESS

[SAYESTOHEALTHCARE1]

Critics charge that the public plan will be subsidized by the government. Here they have their facts wrong. Under every plan that's being discussed on Capitol Hill, subsidies go to individuals and families who need them in order to afford healthcare, not to a public plan. Individuals and families use the subsidies to shop for the best care they can find. They're free to choose the public plan, but that's only one option. They could take their subsidy and buy a private plan just as easily.

[SAYESTOHEALTHCARE1]

Critics say the public option is really a Trojan Horse for a government takeover of all of health insurance. But nothing could be further from the truth. It's an option. No one has to choose it. Individuals and families will merely be invited to compare costs and outcomes. Presumably they will choose the public plan only if it offers them and their families the best deal -- more and better healthcare for less.

[TheNewVideo]

Carol Shea Porter is a liar for the radical leftist party.

[jbm0745]

No communist?

Then Rep. Porter, who is Obama's green czar? Who is Van Jones? Is he NOT a self-described communist? What is Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement (STORM)?

[Yereviltwin2]

Is the jist of what shes saying that Socialist healthcare is good for us and that we are too stupid to realize it?

Sorry honey, fix what we have. Dont add something new that people will abuse and live off of.

[Dewdaahman]

oops, is that 9 Justices..? I had my mind on the numbers of jurors sitting, at the trials..

[Dewdaahman]

you're a traitor and an enemy of the Constitution Ms. Porter as are your partners in crime in Washington, DC.. the NH National Guard should arrest You and everyother member of Congress, take you out of your chairs, handcuff you and transport you to the closest FEMA Camp and try you all for Treason.. then the 12 Justices that have remained silent and

Bush(father &son),Cheney,Condi,Rummy,Rove,­Kissenger, heads of the media and every Gov that allowed federal roadblocks, for a start..

[JCJ77]

That's right there are not 35 czars there are 45.

[AletaDallas]

If these people are not socialists and we are not turning socialist, then could someone please explain to me what we are turning into? I'm not a stupid person. If is looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck, what other conclusion can a rational, logical person draw except that it is a duck!

[JohnGaltPodcast]

Aleta, stop confusing these people with your logic and common sense! ;)

[joeben81]

Dallas.... color me shocked.

[JohnGaltPodcast]

Thanks, Rhiannon. I agree about the public. Obama had a lot of young voters. Let me tell you what just a few of my Obama-voting students said:

(1) One girl, when asked how Obama could pay for all his proposed programs, said "The government can just print more money!" At the time I shuddered at her economic ignorance...but now...yikes!

(2) I asked another, in a "Hope" t-shirt, why she was voting for him. She said "Because he's so anti-abortion!" I wanted to beat my head on the blackboard.

[JohnGaltPodcast]

3) One guy I talked to wanted Obama because he was going to "fight global warming." In a quiz about language we had later in the year, the same kid said that meteorology is the "study of meteors." Yeah, here's a kid that knows about weather... ;)

The ignorance out there is both disturbing and disheartening.

But so many people don't want to let silly little things like facts, reasoning, logic, or objectivity get in the way of their opinions. They buy into a philosophy lock, stock, and barrel.

[JohnGaltPodcast]

Sadly, my fellow instructors just make it worse by forcing their own political views on a captive audience (I NEVER talk about my personal views in class, only outside of it). I've walked by classes where professors have LITERALLY told their classes who they should be voting for in the next election (and usually these classes don't have even the slightest connection to politics to justify even talking about the subject).

Our job is to teach these young people HOW to think, not WHAT to think.

[JohnGaltPodcast]

While I'm somewhat fearful about what's going on now, it also makes me hopeful in a way. We're being confronted with what happens when a country (A) is willing to trade its freedoms for "stuff," and (B) the dangers of "central planning."

It's easy for a country like ours to become complacent, to take for granted the liberty that so many other nations DO NOT HAVE.

People don't like to talk about revolution, obviously, but maybe Jefferson was right when we said it's an occasional necessity.

[KSP0520]

She's outright lying to those people. She needs to go. 2010 is just around the corner. They are the stupid ones. she should have done her homework. VAN JONES AKA ANTHONY JONES. Do your homework lady. who's the stupid one here. She is. typical coming from a politician now a days !!!

[smlvalentine]

Because everyone who has ever worked for a government has been elected? Okay, sure.

[Mixman77]

Another thing, no one is saying they intentionally sent a communist or socialist into government, we are saying we were LIED TO BY PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAROL and now there are non-elected officials in our government who are felons and professing communist! Only recently did Van Jones denounce his communist ties. Carol we see right through your BS and again, you need to simply bow out gracefully before the next election or it's going to be ugly.

Elephants don't forget!

[Mixman77]

Huh Carol, We The People, had NOTHING to do with the placement of these czars. They were NOT ELECTED so why are you bold face lying to these people? You actually wonder why they are questioning you after saying the American people are not stupid? Now that they want answers they are being made to feel as if they are lesser Americans when they are actually the true Americans. Carol whether you realize it or not, you are committing political suicide. Remember this, Elephants do not forget!

[Rhiannon003]

see what I mean?

how are you supposed to reason with someone like cointoast?

that's what we're dealing with here

NH used to be a state to be proud of and in some ways it still is; but it won't take them much longer to destroy our economy too

they added taxes to almost anything related to camping then they blamed the recession on the lack of people coming to the state to vacation at campgrounds

how do you reason with that?

you can't convince some people the sky is blue

[cointoast]

Welcome to the new Republican Party.

If you're old, white, angry, racist, bigoted, loony, and collect money from the Government, then WELCOME!

Tea-baggers are funny. Stupid but funny!

[1inkdaddy]

HAHAHA YOU cant stand it wen white people have had enough

stad up for or rights

[Rhiannon003]

Nice try John

Too many people think our right to vote for representation is the equivalent of voting for an American Idol contestant. Too many people don't vote at all. Too many people vote for their team, R or D.

If ACORN doesn't make 2010 another reason not to bother voting because the outcome is basically predetermined, those who DO vote are likely to "vote them all out" without looking at the records... without looking at who is and is not representing you.

It's such a big mess

[Maiyanna]

Who are the communists? Who took away many of our rights? The same that want to take away woman's rights and gay rights. The same that try and drown you out when it's your turn to speak. The ones that cry wolf, are often times one in the very same.

[JohnGaltPodcast]

To what rights do you refer that we lost, Maiyanna?

[Maiyanna]

The rights we lost under the 2001 Patriot Act.

[JohnGaltPodcast]

Such as...?

[Maiyanna]

I'm quite sure you're familiar with the Patriot Act. You don't find any of the provisions in the act that cross the line on our civil liberties? Like the one where the government can tap your phones, search your house, watch what you are looking at on the web, etc... and all without a court order.

[JohnGaltPodcast]

I didn't say anything about my opinion on them. I asked you to be specific. Please don't confuse your inference with my implication.

Now, having established what worries you, I'll ask this: Mr. Obama's administration has been in office over 7 months. They OBVIOUSLY can force things to happen quickly, as they forced a vote on the "stimulus package" and "cap and trade" with most representatives never having read them (they literally couldn't wait 48 hours).

[JohnGaltPodcast]

And they hoped for the same with health care, though to no avail.

So, tell me, what has this incredibly efficient machine, able to push things through at breakneck speed, done to get rid of each of the infringements of freedom about which you've spoken? If they can pass a trillion dollar stimulus package in a day, they can certainly make some inroads into the Patriot Act in seven months. How much have they done?

[Maiyanna]

The stimulus was passed due to the fact the the last administration left the economy on the brink of collapse. Which brings us to the "Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008". Considering what President Obama inherited, so far I'd say he's doing alright. There is no quick fix for something that took years to build. You asked me what rights were lost, I told you.

[JohnGaltPodcast]

Yes, then I asked you what the current administration has done to reverse the rights there were lost under the Patriotic Act. I was not a Bush supporter and am not necessarily defending any particular policy. I'm asking you what Mr. Obama has done to change those particular infringements on our rights.

[Maiyanna]

Yes, and you missed my point, he rather has his hands full right now. I was very pleased that he signed to reverse the ban on stem cell research. But I checked you out already, and you're an Obama hater, so what, you think you're going to change my mind?

[JohnGaltPodcast]

(A) I'm not an Obama hater. I admit to being a bit of an Obama-fearer, given his policies, and I'm certainly an Obama-distruster, but "hate" is a word I try to reserve for the times I really need it. I hated Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, and their ilk. I'm not ready to have that kind of antipathy for Mr. Obama.

(B) I have no illusions that I could ever change your mind. Given my jobs, I'm a pretty decent communicator, but I don't in any way, shape, or form believe I could sway you in the least.

[JohnGaltPodcast]

I have taken to asking a question to folks like yourself, though, and I'd appreciate it if you'd indulge me with an answer, as I'm fascinated by what I usually hear.

If I could convince you, TO YOUR SATISFACTION (not mine) that what so many folks are saying about Mr. Obama is true (socialism, purposely trying to destroy capitalism, fascistic mindset, etc.), would it make ANY difference in the way you think? Would it cause you to change your mind in any way?

I'm curious.

[gringott12]

She is stupid. We are good so there are no communists or socialists in D.C.? They don't get much stupider. Vote them all out, and then we will have the real trials and executions.

[BangStickky]

Isn't it just like a communist to attempt to dispel any believe that the nation is turning communist?

[Rhiannon003]

That's a good point, EncompassedRunner

What impact will ACORN have on the census and therefore election in 2010?

How can we prevent that from happening?

[EncompassedRunner]

The ACORN-census matter is only one part of it, but there's also the possibility of irreversible changes to our governmental system before then, particularly if accompanied by a crisis. Also, though many don't want to "go there," the Bible does have a 100% accurate track record in prophecy, & without intervention it seems unlikely there'll be much delay for horrific Tribulation period (50% of population dies first 3-1/2 years alone) that begins with confirmation of Middle East fake peace plan.

[electrophonic]

I want everyone here who is complaining, to pick an opposition candidate in summer of 2010 and start knocking on doors and making phone calls for that candidate's campaign!

[EncompassedRunner]

we likely won't have free & fair elections to support in 2010 if Obama is not removed from office beforehand

[JohnGaltPodcast]

Runner, I don't think you'll see the same lax attitude about militant Obamathugs at the polling precincts that you did in 2008.

[EncompassedRunner]

If we make it to 2010, it's possible people will be just trying to eat and stay swine-flu-free & alive and off the "extremist" list in 2010, that the national civilian security force will be well under way, corruption will be rampant, trauma from the latest jihadist attacks on American soil taking its toil, etc.

[jabberwocky1969]

elec -

You got a point .. conservatives have been frigging lazy and cheap.

[Rhiannon003]

this administration could make Manson a czar and these liberals would be telling us to call him an "adivsor"... not a czar. they'd be telling us to trust the "engaged" people who elected them.

NO ONE ELECTS CZARS, "advisors" or whatever you want to call them

these condescending politicians are there to get these "advisors" OUT... we elect THEM and they are responsible for allowing this

[JohnGaltPodcast]

What a crafty ploy. She's trying to spin the argument so that if you tell the truth about the socialists in our government, you're actually calling the populace (many of whom DIDN'T vote for these people) "stupid."

Well, Ms. Porter, the people of Germany weren't stupid, either, but between their desperation ("let no crisis be wasted") and the lies told to them, they were convinced to vote one of the greatest monsters in world history into political office.

You're not fooling anyone.

[USAPatriot1966]

It is sad how they hold the microphone for you...Like they are helping you. Its like they actually do not trust you or might not like your question.

But hey.

U got 2010 to look foward to.

ACORN

Electronic Voting Machines

Censorship

2010 Census-redistricting.

[Perceiving]

At Barney Frank's meeting, they would shut the microphone off as soon as you asked your question. By doing that, the questioner could not comment at all when Barney responded with his off topic answers and misinformation.

Im not an Alex Jones fan but I think we need to bring our own microphones next time.

[ScottfromTexas]

Stop playing into their hands by calling them "Czars." Wouldn't calling them more what they actually are - COMMISARS - help bolster your claim?

[Rhiannon003]

If you want to keep your seat in 2010, you should take this opportunity to explain to the, "engaged", "informed" voters why this administration has a self-proclaimed communist in charge of green jobs. Maybe you can explain what kind of jobs a self-proclaimed communist would create. If you ignore the question, deny the facts and insult the voters, you can kiss your political career bye bye.

[yankeegal01]

What a typical Democrat using the Alinsky method. Do not answer the question, and talk on about unrelated topics for minutes hoping to lead your audience down a different path......... ANSWER THE QUESTION, not give a lecture about what YOU think we should know about Congress. YOU are the one that is stupid thinking people are going to believe your LIES. And no, we wont and arent standing for it which is why people like You Carol, are having to stand up for your past actions. NO MORE. 2010.

[Rhiannon003]

I'm proud that these questions are coming from New Hampshire citizens.

We ARE using our "New Hampshire" sense, Carol and we'll be using it in 2010 too.

[selfwilly]

Yawn ..Another lying pol. what else is new. good going Shea-Porter! smear the people "teabaggers"again! what a way to influence people..sickening..People you know what to do..vote 'em out.

[glenwood183]

I think some of these people watched GLENN BECK last week.

[Rhiannon003]

One thing Carol is right about here

The American people aren't stupid and we won't stand for a self-proclaimed communist "advising" the president.... a self-proclaimed communist in charge of JOBS

She's right... the American people aren't stupid and we won't stand for that

[jdlaporte001]

Hey Diane!

[Dewdaahman]

undo NAFTA and The Patriot Act..