The driver & software support for this shit is horrible. Creative Console Launcher is not supported on this card so you can say goodbye to all that awesome CMSS3D X-Fi feature such as Stereo Evelopment function (which allows you to listen to stereo music sound uniformly on all of your 5.1 speakers). The THX - certified shit doesn't make up for it, it creates fake echos on your surround speakers if you are listening to stereo music and it sounds horrible. There's no way to get around it. Failure!
So what's the deal with the 3DRecon? Would you look at buying one over a X-Fi Titanium? I only ask because I'm looking for a card geared towards gaming (my PC's primary function, outputting over Optical and using my Onkyo receiver and 5.1 setup) and the Titanium seems to be the ideal choice for price and functionality for my budget.
@ElcomeSoft Since your main focus is gaming, I'd get the Recon 3D. From my testing so far, it's better than anything I've used for simulating 5.1 or 7.1 audio in headphones. Since you're using optical, it's more of a toss up. I'd still grab the recon 3d since it's cheaper. What kind of speakers/sub do you have hooked up?
@ElcomeSoft Yeah, IMO you should grab the Recon 3D. It gives you a couple nice sound processing features that I really like. THX Trustudio and crystal voice. And... a little less, scout mode. I thought you were talking about the Titanium HD haha. That one has much better SQ, but it's more expensive.
@ElcomeSoft Yeah probably not so much benefit with a 5.1 optical connection. With your speakers you probably don't benefit much by going the Titanium HD route either. IMO the major thing you'd really get is future driver support. The titanium is at the end of production. You'll get no more driver support, so you'll probably have problems in the future.
@custompcreview Seems like I'll stick with my old Club3D Theatron Agrippa 7.1 DTS then. Seems like I'd be spending lots of cash for little/no appreciable gain, mainly driver support.
@ElcomeSoft Oh yeah that'll be just fine. It's unlikely you'll hear any difference between that and the X-Fi. Just wait until driver support dies out before you get something else.
One of the weirdest soundcard's PCB I ever seen. Almost no capacitor at all on the card, also where the hell are the opamps?! Doesn't look like a real high-end soundcard. I wonder to who it is targeted and I find it even less "serious" when they use stupid marketing terms like "Scout, 3D, Crystal, blabla"
@KriegsMaschine Yeah, the PCB does seem quite deficient. This actually isn't a "real" soundcard which is why it's missing all the capacitors. It's actually just a "sound processor" so all it does is process sounds. Definitely doesn't seem anywhere near as powerful as a last gen X-FI Titanium HD for sure.
Did you just call optical a analog signal???? Optical is a digital signal and going from optical to a dolby signal is no difference. Sound quality is the same regardless of what filter you use.
i wish they would make the pcb face up when installed and same goes for the heat shroud on gpus i mean what is the point of making it look cool when you can't see it through your window?
@paintbrawl Yeah, they should! But everyone would have to do it together or you'd have some issues with some cards facing up and some cards facing down.
@keiki646 The 1st audio card i had from creative was the audigy SE which was black, now i have the xfi xtremegamer which is also black. I think the black PCB is a standard for them, unlike some other companies like XFX which offers black PCB in overclocked or limited edition video cards.
I'm going to take a guess that this, like all other sound cards, does not hardware accelerate audio at all? What is the real point in the quad core processor if all the processing is still pretty much done on the CPU?
@A7Guitar I'd say they're similar. If you've got a G1 assassin, I don't think it'll be worth it to grab one of these. Same with the Asrock X79 Extreme 9 which includes that game blaster add in card.
@custompcreview ok thanks a bunch :) The built on sound card actually saved me about $50 and compared to some other onboard sound including the msi big bang it comes off with superior sound since i think the msi big bang card is just realtek audio but im not sure. Anyway definitely thanks :) Your videos have helped me a lot. Take care
The driver & software support for this shit is horrible. Creative Console Launcher is not supported on this card so you can say goodbye to all that awesome CMSS3D X-Fi feature such as Stereo Evelopment function (which allows you to listen to stereo music sound uniformly on all of your 5.1 speakers). The THX - certified shit doesn't make up for it, it creates fake echos on your surround speakers if you are listening to stereo music and it sounds horrible. There's no way to get around it. Failure!
sakuravs 6 days ago
If I hook up my PS3 optical audio cable to this sound card, ,can I still get the Dolby surround sound?
bta1987 2 weeks ago
Can you use a x16 slot for this card, I have a spare one at the bottom, of my board, I don't want to put a card above my GPU.
seroyer2 2 weeks ago
@seroyer2 Yup
custompcreview 2 weeks ago
Huge step backwards from a decent X-fi card
stuartgangsta 3 weeks ago
this card rock, so big different between onboard sound card.
tiu007 3 weeks ago
thanks for the best Recon3D review I've found on the internet
kassenz 4 weeks ago
is this a good card for music and movies also because i heard its not really an audiophile card but people still say its good for music and movies
cuzaca 4 weeks ago
So what's the deal with the 3DRecon? Would you look at buying one over a X-Fi Titanium? I only ask because I'm looking for a card geared towards gaming (my PC's primary function, outputting over Optical and using my Onkyo receiver and 5.1 setup) and the Titanium seems to be the ideal choice for price and functionality for my budget.
ElcomeSoft 1 month ago
@ElcomeSoft Since your main focus is gaming, I'd get the Recon 3D. From my testing so far, it's better than anything I've used for simulating 5.1 or 7.1 audio in headphones. Since you're using optical, it's more of a toss up. I'd still grab the recon 3d since it's cheaper. What kind of speakers/sub do you have hooked up?
custompcreview 1 month ago
@custompcreview A set of Onkyo speakers and sub, SPK-518 series if memory serves. The receiver is an older Onkyo, the HT-R518.
The Recon 3D comes out at £90 and the X-Fi Titanium is much cheaper at around £60-65.
ElcomeSoft 1 month ago
@ElcomeSoft Yeah, IMO you should grab the Recon 3D. It gives you a couple nice sound processing features that I really like. THX Trustudio and crystal voice. And... a little less, scout mode. I thought you were talking about the Titanium HD haha. That one has much better SQ, but it's more expensive.
custompcreview 1 month ago
@custompcreview Wonder how much those features will benefit me if I'm outputting via Optical to real 5.1, no emulating surround sound in 2.0/2.1.
Seems like I can grab a used Titanium HD for £97. Might be a better option than the Recon3D (£87) or the plain Titanium (£62)
ElcomeSoft 1 month ago
@ElcomeSoft Yeah probably not so much benefit with a 5.1 optical connection. With your speakers you probably don't benefit much by going the Titanium HD route either. IMO the major thing you'd really get is future driver support. The titanium is at the end of production. You'll get no more driver support, so you'll probably have problems in the future.
custompcreview 1 month ago
@custompcreview Seems like I'll stick with my old Club3D Theatron Agrippa 7.1 DTS then. Seems like I'd be spending lots of cash for little/no appreciable gain, mainly driver support.
ElcomeSoft 1 month ago
@ElcomeSoft Oh yeah that'll be just fine. It's unlikely you'll hear any difference between that and the X-Fi. Just wait until driver support dies out before you get something else.
custompcreview 1 month ago
@custompcreview Thanks for your time and support... and sorry for rather messing up your wall :)
ElcomeSoft 1 month ago
thats one low budget sound card.. the whole pcb is empty, and under the hood there is nothing special.
3dkiller 1 month ago
One of the weirdest soundcard's PCB I ever seen. Almost no capacitor at all on the card, also where the hell are the opamps?! Doesn't look like a real high-end soundcard. I wonder to who it is targeted and I find it even less "serious" when they use stupid marketing terms like "Scout, 3D, Crystal, blabla"
KriegsMaschine 1 month ago
@KriegsMaschine Yeah, the PCB does seem quite deficient. This actually isn't a "real" soundcard which is why it's missing all the capacitors. It's actually just a "sound processor" so all it does is process sounds. Definitely doesn't seem anywhere near as powerful as a last gen X-FI Titanium HD for sure.
custompcreview 1 month ago
@KriegsMaschine Windows no longer allows hardware access when it comes to sound hardware. It really changed since Windows Vista.
Yhis card is tageted at gamers and people that want to watch films on their pc with 5.1/7.1 surround sound.
I just use a Maya44(probably a E-mu 1212 soon) that gives incredible stereo sound, better than this thing ever will.
But aside from all that, anything you buy over shitty motherboard chips is good.
JustineBieberxoxo 1 month ago
@JustineBieberxoxo +1
custompcreview 1 month ago
so u need this when u have razer tiamat??
MesiveloniFin 1 month ago
@MesiveloniFin I don't think it fully supports the Razer Tiamat. This only does 5.1
custompcreview 1 month ago
@custompcreview so what sound card do i need?
MesiveloniFin 1 month ago
Can this convert the optical in signal to analog out?
lasermac83 1 month ago
@lasermac83 Not sure about this one, but I know the Recon 3D usb will.
custompcreview 1 month ago
Good stuff mate!
Psylacus 1 month ago
Nice card. Never had the need for one of these. Good to stay up to date with tech though.
If u wanna play BF3 messege me!
1330pc 1 month ago
Please review multiple sound cards and maybe make comparisons because it's very hard to know what sound cards to buy.
hamidious 1 month ago
Did you just call optical a analog signal???? Optical is a digital signal and going from optical to a dolby signal is no difference. Sound quality is the same regardless of what filter you use.
bigrigross 1 month ago
i wish they would make the pcb face up when installed and same goes for the heat shroud on gpus i mean what is the point of making it look cool when you can't see it through your window?
paintbrawl 1 month ago 9
@paintbrawl Yeah, they should! But everyone would have to do it together or you'd have some issues with some cards facing up and some cards facing down.
custompcreview 1 month ago
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Ri1seAgainst 6 days ago
I also like the black PCB design
keiki646 1 month ago
@keiki646 The 1st audio card i had from creative was the audigy SE which was black, now i have the xfi xtremegamer which is also black. I think the black PCB is a standard for them, unlike some other companies like XFX which offers black PCB in overclocked or limited edition video cards.
lupuradu 1 month ago
Hey you should try to test out ever product you get. You should record it just suggestion.
kasagaygay12 1 month ago
What camera do you use?
macfreak98 1 month ago
@macfreak98 d7000
custompcreview 1 month ago
I'm going to take a guess that this, like all other sound cards, does not hardware accelerate audio at all? What is the real point in the quad core processor if all the processing is still pretty much done on the CPU?
iJames93i 1 month ago
@iJames93i The sound card processes the "special effects" - tru studio, crystal voice, dd live, scout mode, etc.
custompcreview 1 month ago
What do you use to record you super HD videos :O
ItsFish2k 1 month ago
@ItsFish2k d7000
custompcreview 1 month ago
Whoop OpenAL
tombmxcrowley 1 month ago
Any chance of a comparison between this card and g1 assassin onboard?
A7Guitar 1 month ago 8
@A7Guitar I'd say they're similar. If you've got a G1 assassin, I don't think it'll be worth it to grab one of these. Same with the Asrock X79 Extreme 9 which includes that game blaster add in card.
custompcreview 1 month ago
@custompcreview ok thanks a bunch :) The built on sound card actually saved me about $50 and compared to some other onboard sound including the msi big bang it comes off with superior sound since i think the msi big bang card is just realtek audio but im not sure. Anyway definitely thanks :) Your videos have helped me a lot. Take care
A7Guitar 1 month ago
Maybe second if my internet isnt crappy
reborn897 1 month ago
Matbe first
reborn897 1 month ago