Psychology of Belief Part 8: Need for Closure

[philopolymath]

Same EXCELLENT insight into psychopathy...

But SAME ERROR to link MAN's INDIVIDUAL psycopathy to the existence of ANY fact of nature.

whether it be God or HIggs Boson.

A weak and consistent flaw and BIASED presentation

[Azz151515]

Can we flip the dialogue around to display the persuasiveness of this bias?

Dawkins: "I'm not positive that the big bang is responsible for the universe. But I'm throwing in with the BBT rather than with you christians because you guys don't know HOW god made everything!

O'Reilly: "Apologists are working on it...."

Dawkins: "Well, when you get it then maybe I'll listen..."

Of course once the veracity of evidence is introduced it changes things, initially though our primacy seems "compelling".

[un2mensch]

2:05 - AntiCitizenX, dammit, we've been through this. It's turtles all the way down!

[AntiCitizenX]

@un2mensch

:)

[JoFreddieFSM]

1. Shit happens - We don't know why shit happens.

2. Human nature does not like not knowing why shit happens.

3. Humans invent shit to explain why shit happens.

4. Over time Humans work out new shit as to why some shit happens, this shit at times shows that the shit made up in 3. is wrong.

5. The people that believe the shit in 3. can get very upset by the shit in 4.

6. From time to time shit thought to be from 4. will be found to actually be from 3.

[JoFreddieFSM]

@JoFreddieFSM Conventional religion is stuck in 5. Pastafarianism accepts religion as clearly made up shit, so Our Lord noodle invites you to make up new shit and add it to the Holy Text, with the proviso that it is funny shit and does not advocate stuff like stoning those that don't like your shit, killing the first born or taking all the virgins as slaves.

[lazyperfectionist1]

How can someone be both cool and awkward?

Is "faultfinding" necessarily negative?

[10sodot]

well done ,keep it up :)

[LordHines420]

first.... someone needs to kill bill oreilly immediately. second... i think its either aliens or matrix.

[chucka59]

Awesome job on this subject....well done \m/

[gndacosta1]

I am a devout catholic and I enjoy reading about darwinism. I think person who did this must find the true facts about religious people or the religion than make his final conclusion, about the subject..LOL..

[Silentsam7532]

I love how the creation institute can not tell the difference between scientific evidence and anecdotal evidence.

"You can't have a creation, without a creator." What is scientific about that? That is just word play and shows that the wrong words are being used.

Maybe it is wrong to call the universe a creation.

[nichtmuttersprachler]

@Silentsam7532 If people are insistent on using the words "creation" and "creator," it's important to emphasize that a "creator" can be a "what," not necessarily a "who." For example, it could be said that the "creator" of life on Earth was principles of chemistry and of evolution by natural selection. Then again, it's just a lot clearer to ask "What is the cause of this?" to avoid miscommunications and implications of using words like "creation" and "creator."

[Silentsam7532]

@nichtmuttersprachler I like that.

[stevehayes13]

This has been an excellent series. Well done.

[simcult]

Hey I'd really like to see a video on so called 'Miracles'. The sad thing is that believers use this as a way to 'explain' the unexplainable - like Noah's ark, water into wine, walking on water, etc

[AntiCitizenX]

@simcult

See part 6 on hallucinations. Also see part 4 on the misinformation effect. There's your miracles.

[TheLovesoul1]

@AntiCitizenX could the universe be a living system

[Azz151515]

@simcult As AntiCitizenX mentioned 6 & 4 of this series is good. Also try The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins pt1 /watch?v=LVr9bJ8Sctk

Also RDs interview with Derren Brown is insightful /watch?v=Xswt8B8-UTM

Water -> Wine /watch?v=bSle3q19RzE

/user/amorevincentomnia has a playlist /user/amorevincentomnia#grid/u­ser/C2108345824E4E3B

/user/QualiaSoup /watch?v=NPqerbz8KDc and /watch?v=98OTsYfTt-c all of his stuff is excellent

/user/TheraminTrees is great specifically miracles /watch?v=OHgUrooEF7g

[NoraaVlogs]

Most christians were indoctrinated so god is what they were exposed to First.

Therefore when any scientist comes along and says "maybe it wasnt god" they get pissed because it REOPENS the discussion and their closure disappears and that maked them mad. Indoctrination causes NEED FOR CLOSURE IN PEOPLE! ..

This explains why most christians dont become atheists.. because they need foreclosure. and the christians who do become atheists were able to restrain that need for closure like you and me :)

[mindofthewolf]

I saw a ceiling cat. I swear xD

[bjjolley]

I heart Feynman. I adore Sagan. AntiCitixenX, you're getting up there, too. ;)

[esparagus]

Great work man, keep it up!

[jtgenis]

Wow since you do not know the answers to life, the universe, and everything I will now unsubscribe. So long, and thanks for all the fish.

[TheNakedAtheist]

This makes perfect sense. I've never been someone who insists on answers that aren't supported by evidence. veritas48 made a video awhile back asking people if they considered it more important to gather as many beliefs as possible that might be true, or more important to not hold false beliefs. I prefer not to hold false beliefs, while he (a theist) preferred to hold more beliefs even if they might be false.

[Deathinmusic]

Another fantastic addition to a fantastic series!

[TheRichDarkEarth]

"Consider the following experiment..." You just know some good research is just around the corner.

[n2thatguy]

Great job once again. Is it sad that I have a geekgasm over your diagrams like the one at 3:18 ? Love those things.

[AdamKili]

THANKS for pointing out that nobody knows can become just as much of a belief as God did it. Maybe this says something about agnostics?

I love your videos! I recently left the Mormon church. Are there any books that tell more about this subject? I haven't found any that tie it in to religion like you do (maybe you should write one!), but I've found one called "The Social Animal" by Elliot Aronson. Are there any books you recommend? Or should I just buy an old Social Psychology 101 textbook? LOL

[AntiCitizenX]

@AdamKili

I just picked up a discount Social Psych 101 text. It was then pretty easy to put 2 and 2 together. It has been suggested by others that I write a book on this stuff someday as well. Maybe in a few more years we'll see. ;)

[jkuever]

This series is so well done. Thank you for all of your hard work in putting them together!

[TheAwesomeChicken]

I get what you're saying, AntiCitizenX. But are people wearing enough hats?

[AntiCitizenX]

@TheAwesomeChicken

Not enough hats! Also, matter is energy. ;)

[El3ctricPenguin]

My only question is, why does this video not have thousands of views?

[AntiCitizenX]

@El3ctricPenguin

Fantastic question. I suggest you tell more of your friends about me :)

[El3ctricPenguin]

@AntiCitizenX will do!

[KaraRvn]

These are such amazing videos, and they have had a huge impact on me. Thanks again for your hard work.

[AntiCitizenX]

@KaraRvn

Anything for the amazing naked atheist! :D

[KaraRvn]

@AntiCitizenX Haha! Now I want to change my screen name. ^_^

[crocoshocker]

Where can I take the Need for Closure test at 9:30? It sounds interesting

[AntiCitizenX]

@crocoshocker

It's in reference #5 at the end.

[Memeticemetic]

Well worth the wait since your last video. Thank you for another excellent production.

[AngelicFerret]

I love these, keep them coming?

Is there any way you can provide links to your sources in your description? I would really like to read these research papers.

Thanks!

[AntiCitizenX]

@AngelicFerret

If you Google the titles of the papers, you should be able find them pretty quickly. However, you might find that some of them require a journal subscription in order to access. If you have access to a good library, you should be able to scrounge them up. My university grants me free access to most journals, while others I can get through inter-library loan. It's a pain in the rear, but that's just a fact of life with scientific publications.

[soulure]

A very interesting and useful video, thank you for taking the time to make this series.

[AntiCitizenX]

@soulure

Thank you for the positive feedback. And thanks to everyone else as well!

[socrates856]

Outstanding production.

[JoesephKatana]

idk if I've said this before, but excellent series, thank you

[TheFoolscap]

Yeah, it'd be nice if people came with refresh buttons.

[GKCanman]

It certainly is a video you need to watch twice to understand. It seems to me that deeply religious people lack humility.

[AntiCitizenX]

@GKCanman

Yeah, there was a lot of information in this one. I'm glad you were able to wade through it and get something out of it, though!

[CrazedCousinDougal]

I have enjoyed all the videos of yours that I have watched so far. I was wondering if you had a website where you post the flowcharts you often put into the video that show the link between human behaviour. I think it would be interesting to be able to see the big picture.

Anyway, great vid. Keep up the good work!

[AntiCitizenX]

@CrazedCousinDougal

Someday I'll get around to posting the flowchart online. Until then, just PM me with your email and I'll forward it to you.

[anubis2814]

Prior to attempting to write a scientific paper I had a lot more primacy about what I said and believed.  After that I learned that I have focus on all the evidence or I could be made to look like a fool in front of everyone.

[AntiCitizenX]

@anubis2814

Yeah, nothing is worse than some know-it-all at a conference explaining to the world why your'e an idiot. I've been on both ends of that old scientific tradition. 

[nyarlotep]

Your videos are always so though provoking! thanks for all the work you do!

[DawnOfEos]

Welcome back! Great video to come back with.

[myviewsareright]

so good!

[superdoubt]

Awesome Work, AntiCitizenX!

[RakaTheTenacious]

The act of faith is a testable hypothesis, it seems. There is a choice between blind faith and critical thinking. The choice has influences and predictable results that can be demonstrated and independently replicated. Is this not the reasonable implication?

[AntiCitizenX]

@RakaTheTenacious

"There is a choice between blind faith and critical thinking."

Bingo.

[DeletedDelusion]

Brilliant video!

[gfunk2013]

Love your stuff, ending with Sagan - AWESOME!!!

[qulqunick]

Missed having these. Shame it takes you this long to make these.

[AntiCitizenX]

@qulqunick

It took me several months of digging to finally uncover the relevant research papers. There's a ton of information on Need for Closure, but it's really hard to find the actual experiments that validate it.

[AntiCitizenX]

@qulqunick

The research for this video was the most time-consuming. It hit a dead-end several times while trying to uncover the experimental papers.

[OpiatedBliss]

lol ceiling cat!

[llamalord111]

I've been waiting for a video from you for ages :D

[AntiCitizenX]

@llamalord111

Damn, that was fast! I just barely uploaded the thing 30 seconds ago.

[llamalord111]

@AntiCitizenX Like I said I was waiting...

[DesertHamster]

@AntiCitizenX And I bet he wasn't the only one eagerly waiting for the video. Keep up the good work and thanks!