Re: Creation Science Investigates: Proving Evolution didn't create the Grand Canyon

[dondude69]

How does peeing in a hole prove anything?

[EdwardHowton]

@dondude69 Well, for one thing, it proves that what's his face, I had to look up his name just now because he's so forgettable, theanswersofnwo has had a completely disheartening lack of education. So there's one proven fact from his "demonstration".

To be fair, though, he's not peeing. It's actually from a garden hose.

To be even more fair, the video would have had a much better appeal if he was peeing. Maybe not on this website, but definitely others. Some people like that, I guess.

[dondude69]

@EdwardHowton Yeah, I knew he wasn't peeing, but the camera placement and sound sure make it funny.

[brother234]

How stupid, absolutely stupid. The grand canyon has two canyons which carved the canyon in opposing directions. His theory cannot explain. Also, entire layers are missing - cubic miles of material, which only a catastrophic force can explain the energy needed to have that outcome. As well, their are more logical routes for the "erosion theory" over time to have taken than the one actually taken. I could go on and on and on. Finally, Flood theory accounts for most outcomes.

[EdwardHowton]

@brother234 While you're wrong about every single point, let's assume you're right and what you laughably call "flood theory" does account for most outcomes.

There's a few problems:

1. It's possible to make up a convoluted explanation that fits all known details as well as a real explanation.

2. A flood would've left evidence of the entire planet being covered in water, which it didn't.

See, the fact that it eroded (and is still eroding today) accounts for EVERY fact. A flood doesn't.

[GamerNanimeFan]

lol do you know how high from the beging of the grand canon is from the level of the tiny river flowing through it?>. So you actualy think that.... and thats were I will stop your type of logic and agrumentation that makes no sence and is full of hate.

heres one for ya, go open a jar of peanut butter and see if there is new life in there.

no realy they found the same exact thing on the planet mars, said it was caused quickly from erosion, but ..aaa go do some research please..

[EdwardHowton]

Oh please. The jar of peanut butter wasn't nominated for a golden crocoduck award for nothing. It's so ridiculously stupid that only an idiot like that man in the video could've possibly hoped it would convinced idiots like you that it's an argument.

Google the word "erosion". If you really think erosion is some atheist hate-filled doctrine then you really are retarded and there's nothing to be done with you. You know the word, but not what it actually is. Do your own research first.

[LordZion133]

Marine fossils are also found high in the Himalayas, There is only one possible explanation for this phenomenon—the ocean waters at some time in the past flooded over the continents.

[LordZion133]

In Genesis 7:11 we read that at the initiation of the Flood all the fountains of the great deep were broken up

[thisis3d]

its called plate tectonics, large amounts of land are uplifted by one tectonic plate forcing its way into another. no magic flood required, just a brain to see the facts.

[brother234]

@thisis3d plate tectonics cannot explain the energy necessary for the continents to have moved. A water layer under them, broken by a 45 thousand mile mountain ridge (ridge exists today as evidence, dividing the continents) shooting water up and then the continents sinking then rising suddenly, would weaken with faults and heat with lava a layer upon which to slide as the world reestablishes its perfect original shape. Sliding quickly, the plates dive and smash together finall stopping themsel

[thisis3d]

@brother234 umm yeah it does. you see we live on this thing called a planet, and planets are super fucking mega hot on the inside, that hot melts fucking rocks. the plates are less dense then the magma so they float, very slowly on it. also we still see the plates moving today so we know it isn't a one time thing.

[ExcaliburClan]

@brother234 newsflash: plate tectonics is active still today, in your explanation it should have stopped completely after the alleged flood event.

[EdwardHowton]

@ExcaliburClan I can't believe I missed that detail in everything else! Well spotted!

Yes, earthquakes handily refute that particular creationist's ideas. Or should, anyways, if they had such a thing as an "education", or "critical thinking ability", or "the capacity to feel shame when such an immense mistake is made".

[ExcaliburClan]

@LordZion133 there is atleast one more explanation that you conveniently left out, namely that himalaya is raised at the collision point between 2 colliding plates (as in plate tectonics), the indian having broken loose from africa long ago and no hading straigh into the asian, casuing himalayas. This explanation that you left out, is actually the scientifically accepted one. Stop lying for jesus, it will only send you to hell.

[LordZion133]

1.Mountains arose after the flood and the valleys sank causing the water to wash off the land into the lower places. (Psalms 104:8)

2.Shortly after the flood the Grand Canyon and all the earth was soft sedimentary rock because of hydrologic sorting. Not hard as you say.

3.Your right that is not the right scale.

[EdwardHowton]

1. And exactly what are these "low places"? Where in the bible is that described? I know it's not Isaiah 40:22, which calls the Earth a flat circle, or Ezekiel 7:2 among others that says the Earth has four corners. Are you really going to base anything on that nonsense?

2. So you're saying that god, after killing everyone off, decided to lie about it and changed soft earth into hard granite?

3.You're right. It's not the right scale. Because there was no flood, Mr. Uni of Hovind graduate.

[LordZion133]

No trench can happen the way you explain and the bible explains so different then you are stating. Look at my point #1

[LordZion133]

The water went to what we know as the oceans. (When the valleys sank the bible says) When you look at the ocean you see a lot of water right, and thats just the surface. There is a lot of water in there.

[LordZion133]

No need to call me names. My intent is not attacking you just trying to give observable proof about the bible being truly Gods word. And that there is a judgment day coming for all of us. Repent and believe in Christ before its too late. Thank you for your time.

[EdwardHowton]

Your proof is entirely bogus, is the problem. You're basing your "facts" (and the quotes mean they are precisely not facts) on stuff that an ignoramus called Kent Hovind made up. His science degree was also made up in a building that looks like an RV in the middle of a desert that calls itself a university. An uncredited university. He pays money, they send him a piece of paper worth nothing at all. And that's whose word you're taking on matters of science, and the bible, another worthless book.

[LordZion133]

6.The entire planet is not hollo0w but we know there is underground water ways. Yellowstone is the largest geyser locale, containing thousands of hot springs, and between three and five hundred geysers.

7.The narrow trench (Grand Canyon) is a spilled out wash way and was formed by the Kiabab Uplift.

[LordZion133]

Erosion can happen very fast not taking much time at all. Look on the news at floods taking down hill side rapidly in hours.

[thisis3d]

yes those are caused by floods, and they carve a straight path. the Colorado river carved the grand canyon, we can the river is very long and it meanders as does the grand canyon. its called erosion

[EdwardHowton]

I'm fully aware of how erosion works, and meandering occurs when a river doesn't flow fast enough due to flat land. I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Are you sure you replied to the right person?

[thisis3d]

i was replying to lordZion133 and his thing about quick erosion. great video by the way

[EdwardHowton]

My mistake. I'm glad you like the vid!

[Katalyzt]

Perfectly done. ☆☆☆☆☆

Katalyzt