Whether it's the brass being too slow, or the violins rushing in the beginning, I can't tell, but it defintiely ruined the aesthetic for me. =/ Not in sync at all.
Video stupendo, nitido e limpido. Karajan sceglie l'impronta beethoveniana dentro questa Ottava Sinfonia di Bruckner, maestosa, monumentale e caparbiamente tardoromantica, piena di echi profetici dei tempi successivi. Ma, secondo me, ci sono degli spunti melodici e armonici, usati in seguito, da Gustav Mahler , William Walton e forse anche Ralph Waugan Williams, ma questo lo penso io, solo una mia supposizione ! Sorry !
As one wag put it, "Bruckner was God's thank-you note to humanity." The Finale is the apotheosis of the mighty 8th, aptly named "The Apocalyptic," and creates a triad formed by the perfect melding of the Heroic, the Tragic and the Eternal. When one experiences music such as this in truly capable hands, life takes on new meaning. In this instance, von Karajan and the VPO turn in, quite literally, the performance of a lifetime.
Every time I feel depressed or insecure about myself, I listen to some Bruckner and I almost instantly feel at home. I am cradled by the music. I get a feeling of a strong, inner security. It's hard to explain. I think it has something to do with his strong spiritual beliefs, which comes across as rather heavy and masculine. Even in his more elegant and soft movements.
It's as if his music elevates the male self-confident in me.in a sort of... spiritual way.
We playerd this at Interlocken....I was lucky to be introduced to Bruckner at a young age...we played the whole eight movement....I will never forget it!
Lorin Maazel recorded a marvelous Bruckner 8 with the Berliner Philharmoniker on the EMI label, back in 1990, which is my favourite and probably still available. The funny thing about Bruckner is that my dog loves his music. With Sibelius and Mahler my dog turns a deaf ear (whereas I don't), but with Anton she rolls over and listens in bliss with all four feet in the air. And it seems the 8th is what makes my dog the happiest. Who says humans know everything?
I listened to the audio in the video response and... of course we can hear better these epic four notes of the trumpets at 0:16 and 0:37 . Unfortunetely we can't here anything else but the brass wing...
Bruckner composed some fine symphonies but hardly better than many other composers; Beethoven, Mozart, Tchaikovsky, Sibelius, Shostakovich, Schubert, Mahler to name but a few
@lsbrother no, nominating Tchaikovsky, Shostakovich and Sibelius as better symphonists than Bruckner is silly... let's just say I have my opinion and you have yours.
Yes, we each have our opinions - but, unlike your opinion, mine would seem to be the same as most serious musicians - I don't recall Karajan, Furtwangler, Barenboim, Ashkenazy, Rattle, etc, etc, saying that, having heard Bruckners 8th, they now regarded all works of Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms etc etc as "totally trivial and pathetic" and indeed their continued enthusiasm for these works would strongly indicate quite the contrary.
@lsbrother because I think you're taking my comment far too literally. And your opinion isn't really the same as most serious musicians. There are only really a few Mozart symphonies that can compare to Bruckner's best (most of the piano concertos and operas are far better), Tchaikovsky's are disgusting, Sibelius' are amateurish, Brahms and Beethoven were at their best in their chamber music etc etc. Furthermore I couldn't care less of what Karajan,Barenboim or Rattle thought about great music
@SecondAgeOfReason I completely agree with you that bruckner's one of the best at it, especially in this and the second movement of his ninth symphony. If you want to hear *the* best though, look up mahler's second symphony, shostakovich's 5th or 8th, and wagner's... well, fuck, *anything* of his really. :p
@sirwootalot I definitely agree on Mahler 2. I like many of the Shostakovich ones as well. I believe I've heard both of those while not remembering specifically what those ones were. Wagner's music is adulterated with opera though :)
It is really great, but there is a problem. We can't hear very well the 4 ascendent notes of trumpets at 0:16 and at 0:38. That is essencial to complete the idea the overture of the movement.
Very easy to imagine that it was written by a greatly religious man.
What do you think that the Catholic Church is, man?
Let me give you a comparison: the Church is Minas Tirith, the frail and frequetly ill-governed city, the last refuge for humanity, the only white point under the darkness, crowded with imperfect and cowards men.. but always facing the terror and the death which menaces with destroying her up to her very foundations.
Well they didn't have youtube and internet and tv to distract from sitting and passing the time writing great detailed music. TIme lost indeed. We're just lazy now.
Why does it stop? I want the music to go on!!!!!
shoeprich2012 3 weeks ago
HELL YEAH!!!
ConnyBoy5678 1 month ago
One tutti passage of Bruckner's is worth all the symphonies of several other composers. I can't think of anyone that can produce such walls of sound.
bdrman 1 month ago
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parsecs2000 1 month ago
Who needs rock music when you have this.
cpthornman 1 month ago 2
@cpthornman I totally agree.
parsecs2000 1 month ago
Whether it's the brass being too slow, or the violins rushing in the beginning, I can't tell, but it defintiely ruined the aesthetic for me. =/ Not in sync at all.
Dragonsfire867 3 months ago
I used to always skip to the Finale, but now after hearing the Symphony from the beginning, the themes in the Finale take on a new meaning.
jonathanaconway 4 months ago
^reason I play trumpet^
linky6911 5 months ago
9:08 , the worst part
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rkotcher 7 months ago
Video stupendo, nitido e limpido. Karajan sceglie l'impronta beethoveniana dentro questa Ottava Sinfonia di Bruckner, maestosa, monumentale e caparbiamente tardoromantica, piena di echi profetici dei tempi successivi. Ma, secondo me, ci sono degli spunti melodici e armonici, usati in seguito, da Gustav Mahler , William Walton e forse anche Ralph Waugan Williams, ma questo lo penso io, solo una mia supposizione ! Sorry !
darkblueangel1956 8 months ago
I know Bruckner was 4 When Beethoven died, but somehow he became Beethoven reincarnate of the romantic period. What a great composer.
KnottPatriot 10 months ago 3
Now I know how to get people into Bruckner.
bdrman 11 months ago 11
@bdrman Yea man
jwunschie14 8 months ago
As one wag put it, "Bruckner was God's thank-you note to humanity." The Finale is the apotheosis of the mighty 8th, aptly named "The Apocalyptic," and creates a triad formed by the perfect melding of the Heroic, the Tragic and the Eternal. When one experiences music such as this in truly capable hands, life takes on new meaning. In this instance, von Karajan and the VPO turn in, quite literally, the performance of a lifetime.
AJNorth 11 months ago 2
Every time I feel depressed or insecure about myself, I listen to some Bruckner and I almost instantly feel at home. I am cradled by the music. I get a feeling of a strong, inner security. It's hard to explain. I think it has something to do with his strong spiritual beliefs, which comes across as rather heavy and masculine. Even in his more elegant and soft movements.
It's as if his music elevates the male self-confident in me.in a sort of... spiritual way.
AnamorphicDreams 1 year ago 3
@AnamorphicDreams Very well said! Totally concur. This is music of, for, and about Heaven-I think.
harryslide 1 year ago
muito bom
nunomatosfafe 1 year ago
jaaaaaaaaaaa blech :D:D:D
Jan2303 1 year ago
loooooooool!
doublebass at 1.00........Hard to play against such brass!
oxarim 1 year ago
This is supercagafragalistically wonderful,Bruckner is divine!!!How competently performed!!!
MrRaretunes 1 year ago
We playerd this at Interlocken....I was lucky to be introduced to Bruckner at a young age...we played the whole eight movement....I will never forget it!
nurtasuts 1 year ago
Lorin Maazel recorded a marvelous Bruckner 8 with the Berliner Philharmoniker on the EMI label, back in 1990, which is my favourite and probably still available. The funny thing about Bruckner is that my dog loves his music. With Sibelius and Mahler my dog turns a deaf ear (whereas I don't), but with Anton she rolls over and listens in bliss with all four feet in the air. And it seems the 8th is what makes my dog the happiest. Who says humans know everything?
Numboss 1 year ago
@Numboss
most people know more than most dogs
I suppose it's possible that some dogs know more than some people - perhaps you and your dog are an example of this
lsbrother 1 year ago
@lsbrother people know squat,full of frustrated hot air allot of the time woof woof ,yes yes ^o^
MrRaretunes 1 year ago
@Numboss Woof Woof ,agreed!!
MrRaretunes 1 year ago
IV. Finale. Feierlich, nicht schnell
"nicht schnell" wäre ja mal ein wunder gewesen hätte Karajan sich daran gehalten...
1871freude 1 year ago
absulute incredible
Limanus3975 1 year ago
I'm not familiar with this piece. I will have to listen to the entire score.
HoustonGD 1 year ago
If I were blind and dumb and only had my hearing, this would absolutely suffice.
710scarletreaper 1 year ago
Come on trombones. It's ok to be weighty--but, dragging like *that*? That's over the top.
rieekan243 1 year ago
Karajan is in third place. Giulini in second. Celibidache its first.
The Karajan's finale is totally mixed up. Listen for a perfect one on Celibidache
hersh1957 1 year ago
@hersh1957
We seem to have a similar Bruckner taste. Celibidache, Giulini (close one), Jochum, Karajan for me. Then all the rest.
herodot2 1 year ago
@hersh1957 i agree the bruckner 8 by the Muncher Phil under Celibedache is something out of this world!!
scomdnz9 1 year ago
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this shit fucking sucks man, where are the drum solos and the awsome guitar rifs? this dude is nothing compared to lynardskynard and van halen.
they should add some sick bass to make it bearable...
dieterlino 1 year ago
@dieterlino Go elsewhere, please.
rieekan243 1 year ago
Powerful and radiant opening theme. I love it!
koipondity 1 year ago
First time to see there are two set of timpani for Bruckner8
Addaick 1 year ago
the video response is not as epic - is not as impressive as karajans total stunning performance of the beginning
mzecke 1 year ago
I listened to the audio in the video response and... of course we can hear better these epic four notes of the trumpets at 0:16 and 0:37 . Unfortunetely we can't here anything else but the brass wing...
patrahilevlampiev 1 year ago
7:47 tan bello
ari11doll 1 year ago
god, in this symphony (and most of Bruckner's others) he makes all others look totally pathetic and trivial.
flammesombres 2 years ago 31
yes i agree with you flammesombres:
the symphony smells of incense like bruckners all
floyd21pink 2 years ago
Well in Romanticism there is Beethoven, Brahms, Tchaikovsky, and Mahler--so I'd have to say; not really, though Bruckner is great.
MrNobleSavagery 2 years ago
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flammesombres 2 years ago
okay
MrNobleSavagery 2 years ago
@flammesombres
that's a very silly remark
Bruckner composed some fine symphonies but hardly better than many other composers; Beethoven, Mozart, Tchaikovsky, Sibelius, Shostakovich, Schubert, Mahler to name but a few
or were you just expressing your opinion to god?!
lsbrother 1 year ago
@lsbrother no, nominating Tchaikovsky, Shostakovich and Sibelius as better symphonists than Bruckner is silly... let's just say I have my opinion and you have yours.
flammesombres 1 year ago
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@flammesombres
""nominating Tchaikovsky, Shostakovich and Sibelius as better symphonists than Bruckner is silly""
agreed - I didn't
lsbrother 1 year ago
@flammesombres
Yes, we each have our opinions - but, unlike your opinion, mine would seem to be the same as most serious musicians - I don't recall Karajan, Furtwangler, Barenboim, Ashkenazy, Rattle, etc, etc, saying that, having heard Bruckners 8th, they now regarded all works of Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms etc etc as "totally trivial and pathetic" and indeed their continued enthusiasm for these works would strongly indicate quite the contrary.
Why not just admit it was a very silly remark?
lsbrother 1 year ago
@lsbrother because I think you're taking my comment far too literally. And your opinion isn't really the same as most serious musicians. There are only really a few Mozart symphonies that can compare to Bruckner's best (most of the piano concertos and operas are far better), Tchaikovsky's are disgusting, Sibelius' are amateurish, Brahms and Beethoven were at their best in their chamber music etc etc. Furthermore I couldn't care less of what Karajan,Barenboim or Rattle thought about great music
flammesombres 1 year ago
@flammesombres He makes like pornographic blasting music and it's great. Nobody else matches his sheer outburst of power that I have yet heard.
SecondAgeOfReason 5 months ago 2
@SecondAgeOfReason I completely agree with you that bruckner's one of the best at it, especially in this and the second movement of his ninth symphony. If you want to hear *the* best though, look up mahler's second symphony, shostakovich's 5th or 8th, and wagner's... well, fuck, *anything* of his really. :p
sirwootalot 1 month ago
@sirwootalot I definitely agree on Mahler 2. I like many of the Shostakovich ones as well. I believe I've heard both of those while not remembering specifically what those ones were. Wagner's music is adulterated with opera though :)
SecondAgeOfReason 1 month ago
Yes. Listen to the audio in video response. The four notes of the trumpets at 0:16 and at 0:37. We hear the trumpet motiv better.
That is the Jesus Lopez-Cobos ( conductor ) recording with the Cincinnati Orchestra.
MrAlfaiete 2 years ago
It is really great, but there is a problem. We can't hear very well the 4 ascendent notes of trumpets at 0:16 and at 0:38. That is essencial to complete the idea the overture of the movement.
codonauta 2 years ago
Thank you so much for posting.
xXxDjJayZxXx 2 years ago
thank you very much shostak!!!
divine604 2 years ago
My favorite recording of my favorite symphony. Masterful. Thanks so much.
BTW, I like your comparison, C2209w.
choralcomposerdude 2 years ago
This is the kind of music that lets you know God is real.
claronebasse 2 years ago
Very easy to imagine that it was written by a greatly religious man.
What do you think that the Catholic Church is, man?
Let me give you a comparison: the Church is Minas Tirith, the frail and frequetly ill-governed city, the last refuge for humanity, the only white point under the darkness, crowded with imperfect and cowards men.. but always facing the terror and the death which menaces with destroying her up to her very foundations.
C2209w 2 years ago
The beginning is Wrathful!!
waldhorn33 2 years ago
Well they didn't have youtube and internet and tv to distract from sitting and passing the time writing great detailed music. TIme lost indeed. We're just lazy now.
Shepherd101 2 years ago
lo que escucho es bueno de lo mejor disfruten buen canal
xcatrocasx 2 years ago
In my humble opinion, this is one of the best recordings ever made of Bruckner's eighth.
andreasolofsson 2 years ago 4
Bruckner!! es una chingoneriaaaa, Ajuaaaaa, majestuosoo,
RobertLYA 2 years ago
Bruckner was a master of Orchestration. The colors of all the instruments blend so perfectly.
AmadeusHTS 2 years ago 3
Absolute performance. Full of adrenaline and sensitivity!
pirpinelo 2 years ago 3
Very hard to imagine that it is written by a very religious man, right?
gustavyeung 2 years ago
Huh?
baldwalrus7 2 years ago
Don't be foolish; Piety is potency.
MrNobleSavagery 2 years ago
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parmat88 2 years ago
There is nothing like this any more.A time lost now.
lilleeWAfot 2 years ago 35
@lilleeWAfot
What a beautiful recording. Bruckner is less known than he should be. I love Karajan
gzaenker 11 months ago 4
@lilleeWAfot Oh I don't know about that. This reminds me a lot of Lady GaGa's second movement on her debut album.
JayKeaton 6 months ago