I want to ask you - are the following things real? Please go through this list and tell me in your opinion the relative reality of these items. This is only an exercise - there is no right answer or answer I'm expecting.
1. A table
2. A dream (i.e. a night dream while you're asleep)
3. An intention
4. A 10 ton truck
5. A thought about a jet fighter
6. The image associated with a lie you told somebody
7. The image associated with the truth you told somebody
8. A shadow on the wall 9. Hatred as a general outlook 10. A ghost somebody reported seeing 11. Love as a general outlook 12. A UFO 13. The pain when you bump your shin hard (lower leg) 14. A huge massive tree that was there before you were born 15. A hallucination 16. A physical feeling 17. An emotionl feeling 18. The world 19. A book 20. a little bright blue dot that explodes in your vision for a brief moment. 21. A silver flash of unknown origin
it depends what you mean with real, but yeah its all real, but just cos its real dos not make something ells unreal, for instance an IFO would be the oposite of a UFO but IFO is not something we say, we say what its identified as =))
but alot of it is also "unreal", in the sense, a hallucination is, a real perception of something "unreal", occuring to be real, rather then as it is, "unreal" =))
hope it answers enough, want me to expain deeper em 1 by 1, i will do in a video, not in comment =))
The endless play of words. Real=constant? Real=solid? Real=final? real=eternal? Real=emotionally real i.e. intense? Real=the goal(all's well that ends well?) Real=free? Real=unknown/known? dream - dissapears when attention source is moved shadow- dissapears when light source is moved a thought - dissapears when attention source is moved "outside world" - doesn't appear to dissapear when attention source is moved. Or does it?
i hear what you are saying, about the play on words, that is one of our problems,the worlds problems, we have so many words and meanings and ideas, that mean so many things, that i am sure, you can only find stuff, that can be understood several ways, and id like for people to know this, so they can actually be aware that we need to connect more to make sure we understand each other =))
Yeah I just made a video about that. check it out and leave a comment if you want. It's an awareness that needs to always be there when we speak - the extreme categorizationl reltivity and interconnectedness of word-images and their habitutated meanings. ETC!
bah fucking youtube monster ate my second half of the message i left for you and it was containing all the gold, and now i have it put way back there in my mind, oh well =))
Holy shit man, you're like Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde! Who are you so angry at? Me? A lot of yakkety yak. It does get boring, meaningless. I feel the same way often. The main point is really that hate and fear are illusions. if you're not having a "mystic experience" there's not necessarily point taking it any further than that. Just work on getting that. "The unfamiliar is the real world, all else is MAYA [illusion]." hehehe, does that piss you off?
no im not angry at you, or anyone ells, for that matter, unless opinions are someone, as in alive, i know they can seem like it cos they grow like we grow, but im frustrated with peoples statements not the people them self, it annoys me seeing all the illusions we can do something about not being done something about cos people are focused on "illusions" that we can never ever remove, so they are wasting time, in my humble opinion. the anger is my beast showing it means buissness =))
im not angry at anyone, its just what the energy has turned into cos i gave it to little attention on some level =)) by the energy i mean my "want", "need" or what ever, to say something about "fighting" "bad" illusions =))
nah i dont get angry by hearing that sentence or others that have so many possible meanings =)) to me it means being alive is trying different things, if not you are "dead" =))
hey zark ive had a break, with my brother cos ive neglected him for some time, plus ive been playing a game called dungeon keeper 2, cos its possible to do so in danish, and that is rather fun and different =))
ive not seen the video response yet, but ive noticed its accepted it =))
maybe the best way is to upload the video and then add as responce, instead of direct upload either way =)) ( as in direct record and upload at the same time, or directly upload as a response ) =))
This world is of course no illusion, but everything in the physical world we live in has a equivalent in the spiritual world. Equivalent not because it is equal, because it is connected to each other. Your Spirit is connected to your body. I think there are other good examples for this.
People who has insights into the spiritual world think that anything else is an illusion. Thats why people think we live into illusions.
yeah its rather distracting, on some level, cos with "real" illusions like "i think you say cheese, and you are really saying freeze" or what ever that aint that simple but creates a real illusion of what is going on, we dont need illusions like this world is not real, right now, cos what is going on then is everything ells becomes irrelevant, and that aint "good" =)) that means we dont look at the illusions that matters, and have an effect on us, like the cheese / freeze thing =)) imho =))
hehe yeah they are =))
Pensionisten 3 years ago
Ah, but books are wonderful! ^_^
StevenErnest 3 years ago
I want to ask you - are the following things real? Please go through this list and tell me in your opinion the relative reality of these items. This is only an exercise - there is no right answer or answer I'm expecting.
1. A table
2. A dream (i.e. a night dream while you're asleep)
3. An intention
4. A 10 ton truck
5. A thought about a jet fighter
6. The image associated with a lie you told somebody
7. The image associated with the truth you told somebody
Dadarkilo 3 years ago
Dadarkilo 3 years ago
it depends what you mean with real, but yeah its all real, but just cos its real dos not make something ells unreal, for instance an IFO would be the oposite of a UFO but IFO is not something we say, we say what its identified as =))
but alot of it is also "unreal", in the sense, a hallucination is, a real perception of something "unreal", occuring to be real, rather then as it is, "unreal" =))
hope it answers enough, want me to expain deeper em 1 by 1, i will do in a video, not in comment =))
Pensionisten 3 years ago
The endless play of words. Real=constant? Real=solid? Real=final? real=eternal? Real=emotionally real i.e. intense? Real=the goal(all's well that ends well?) Real=free? Real=unknown/known? dream - dissapears when attention source is moved shadow- dissapears when light source is moved a thought - dissapears when attention source is moved "outside world" - doesn't appear to dissapear when attention source is moved. Or does it?
Dadarkilo 3 years ago
i hear what you are saying, about the play on words, that is one of our problems,the worlds problems, we have so many words and meanings and ideas, that mean so many things, that i am sure, you can only find stuff, that can be understood several ways, and id like for people to know this, so they can actually be aware that we need to connect more to make sure we understand each other =))
Pensionisten 3 years ago
Yeah I just made a video about that. check it out and leave a comment if you want. It's an awareness that needs to always be there when we speak - the extreme categorizationl reltivity and interconnectedness of word-images and their habitutated meanings. ETC!
Dadarkilo 3 years ago
bah fucking youtube monster ate my second half of the message i left for you and it was containing all the gold, and now i have it put way back there in my mind, oh well =))
ok ill try and do that soon =))
Pensionisten 3 years ago
Holy shit man, you're like Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde! Who are you so angry at? Me? A lot of yakkety yak. It does get boring, meaningless. I feel the same way often. The main point is really that hate and fear are illusions. if you're not having a "mystic experience" there's not necessarily point taking it any further than that. Just work on getting that. "The unfamiliar is the real world, all else is MAYA [illusion]." hehehe, does that piss you off?
Dadarkilo 3 years ago
no im not angry at you, or anyone ells, for that matter, unless opinions are someone, as in alive, i know they can seem like it cos they grow like we grow, but im frustrated with peoples statements not the people them self, it annoys me seeing all the illusions we can do something about not being done something about cos people are focused on "illusions" that we can never ever remove, so they are wasting time, in my humble opinion. the anger is my beast showing it means buissness =))
Pensionisten 3 years ago
im not angry at anyone, its just what the energy has turned into cos i gave it to little attention on some level =)) by the energy i mean my "want", "need" or what ever, to say something about "fighting" "bad" illusions =))
nah i dont get angry by hearing that sentence or others that have so many possible meanings =)) to me it means being alive is trying different things, if not you are "dead" =))
Pensionisten 3 years ago
arrrrr 2 times ive tryed to make a vid response without succes :-(. Remind me next time I see you on stickam. Bout that, where have u been mate :p?
Zarkonirk 3 years ago
hey zark ive had a break, with my brother cos ive neglected him for some time, plus ive been playing a game called dungeon keeper 2, cos its possible to do so in danish, and that is rather fun and different =))
ive not seen the video response yet, but ive noticed its accepted it =))
Pensionisten 3 years ago
maybe the best way is to upload the video and then add as responce, instead of direct upload either way =)) ( as in direct record and upload at the same time, or directly upload as a response ) =))
Pensionisten 3 years ago
well I deleted it, for some reason can't get my mic to work on it ^^
Zarkonirk 3 years ago
ok no worries =))
Pensionisten 3 years ago
im so glad you made this video
benjaminjoshua 3 years ago
hehe you most welcome =))
Pensionisten 3 years ago
This world is of course no illusion, but everything in the physical world we live in has a equivalent in the spiritual world. Equivalent not because it is equal, because it is connected to each other. Your Spirit is connected to your body. I think there are other good examples for this.
People who has insights into the spiritual world think that anything else is an illusion. Thats why people think we live into illusions.
Xenous2 3 years ago
yeah its rather distracting, on some level, cos with "real" illusions like "i think you say cheese, and you are really saying freeze" or what ever that aint that simple but creates a real illusion of what is going on, we dont need illusions like this world is not real, right now, cos what is going on then is everything ells becomes irrelevant, and that aint "good" =)) that means we dont look at the illusions that matters, and have an effect on us, like the cheese / freeze thing =)) imho =))
Pensionisten 3 years ago
Rah Rah Rah, lol. Per, i love you! This truth was overdue. 5 stars and 5 cookies (the cookies are an illusion).
drschnaggels 3 years ago
hehe, i love you too swen =))
Pensionisten 3 years ago