I often wonder if every piece of meat left on this bands bones hasn't been consumed by hoards of vultures masquerading as hardcore bands. There's definitely a lot to learn from this band, I just wish more bands would take a cue from them and evolve the genre rather than keeping it stagnant by simply imitating what they've done already.
a friend of mine was like "guess what! i met the chariot today and was showing them around town (liverpool, uk), theyre a great band, you should check em out, a bit like norma jean, really original stuff!" i LOL'd
Here's the setlist. 1. C. Thomas Howell as the "Soul Man" 2. Oma 3. St. Matthew Returns to the Womb 4. Thank God For The Worker Bees 5. Hutton's Great Heat Engine 6. Mondrian Was A Liar 7. Frequency Ass Bandit 8. Transitions From Persona To Object 9. To Our Friends In the Great White North Great video, thanks for sharing.
Ashamed I am that I very very recently found this band, and was championing Norma Jean for so long - I love NJ, but they just wouldnt exist without Botch. Still the more the merrier I say, its a fabulous genre.
botch is one of the heaviest hardcore bands of TIME ITSELF. and much respect for them sticking up for the fans who didn't feel like swinging fists or kicking feet. Botch, you will be missed.
I know that DEP was obviously influenced by these guys, but to be grouped with those other bands who basically ripped off this style is inaccurate I think. Calculating Infinity is one of the best hardcore albums ever.
If you love Botch check out their last show DVD... bought one cheap as hell from amazon... worth the price of a child! Commentary on it is funny as hell too!!!!
wow u are fucking stupid meat head. your stupid fat ass savage who just worships Slipknot cuz they paint their face. u dont fucking know shit when it comes to good music
wow i am very impressed with this band botch, ive never heard them before this post, thanks! i attended an ISIS show bit ti king ago and Aaron Turner had a BOTCH shirt on. im glad i investigated!
Well I guess there's just some people who listen to Botch because they love Botch, and some people that listen to Botch because it makes them a step ahead of Avenged Sevenfold/scenester trend fans.
In a way I am kind of glad that Botch never got as big as they deserved. If everyone loved Botch as much as I do then I'd be dumb like someone that listens to avenged sevenfold and not cool like someone who listens to Botch.
Why all the hatin on norma jean if you love Botch so much? You and norma jean jean obviously have an apreciation for the same music and lets face it there not all that differnt, ud have to be damn ignerant to say there nothing alike. I sucks how everyone sees there opinions as the be all and end all of it (maybe that will sound hypocritical to some)
These guys are good and everything...but how are they better than Converge/TDEP?? I've heard so many people say that...not true...not true. These guys are a lil more accessible, which I guess is cool.
I was at this show up front on the bassist's side. The singer nearly strangled me with the mic cord. The guitarist's style set me on a new path of guitar exploration. What an awesome show and a great orginal band!
*sigh* - Norma Jean have admitted they are largely influenced by Botch. Keller Harbin listed Botch as a major influence in an interview he did around the release of "Everything is..." by The Chariot.
Pretty much every noise/metalcore act that use unconventional time sigs. and have spazzy guitar fills love Botch.
Cos they were *and still are* legends.
P.S. - it was only Josh Scogin who left NJ to form The Chariot ;)
Norma Jean are good, but I won't deny Botch's obvious influence on them (the same goes for The Chariot). I like Botch a lot more though, the guitaring in the opening song is fucking sick.
I agree that Botch had a heavy influence on Norma Jean (although I think The Chariot sound more like them) but I don't think Norma Jean suck. I like Botch more though, and this video is awesome. The guitaring in the opening track is sick.
fact: record sales mean nothing compared to talent. fact: norma jean sucks. fact: you wear girl pants. fact: these comments are directed to user "ifuckingtriumph" false: u are so cool. welcome ot the internet nub
Anyone who says Norma Jean didn't rip off Botch is a complete moron. Shame that "Bless The Martyr" has sold more copies of cds than Botch's entire catalogue.
yeah they do, norma jean ripped off botch so bad. Listen to Botchs album We are the romans. and you'll see that norma jean copy'd these dudes completely.
listen to it again, and if you still have the same ignorant claim, shoot yourself. it's pretty fucking blatant. but let's not forget coalesce, another great band that norma jean has blatantly copied. long live botch and coalesce.
Saw Botch with All Else Failed and The Dillinger Escape Plan, Sadly I didnt even know about them till their last 5 shows and I live only like an hour and a half from Tacoma. Hopefully someday they will realize that the world is in dire need of them and return.
I remember this show used to be up on some site, I fell in love with Botch after I saw how ape-shit the guitarist could go while still playing crazy stuff. Wish I got the chance to see them live. Fuck.
what6 year was this?
jklmnug 2 months ago
seriously. how'd they come up with this sound??? Who really is this guitar assassin Dave Knudson????
christopiate 11 months ago
@christopiate hes in minus the bear nowadays
TheHuggableRetard 1 month ago
i love that there's a link to King Geedorah's Fazers. hahahahahahhahhahahaah
christopiate 11 months ago
they sound fucking great here
bldsucker 1 year ago
BOTCH. FUCKING. KILLS.
R.I.P. Puyallup's Finest!!!
tbone0621 1 year ago
Fucking historic!!
ifyoufly 1 year ago 3
i regret not going to this with my cousin wen i was like 12 or 13.
kraf999 1 year ago
@kraf999 I bet your life was changed after you left there.
Anders898Avey 1 year ago
Wow. American Heritage and Milemarker played this show too... this show would have blown my mind.
effingguy 1 year ago
what is the first song called?
rapedbyasquirrel 2 years ago
C. Thomas Howell As The "Soul Man"
nilesrules666 2 years ago
so fucking brutal!
birdlivesforever 2 years ago
this band was so great. i was fortunate enough to see em a couple times a year in Portland back in the day. their show w/ Dillinger was off the hook.
schwarzblatt 3 years ago
Dillinger + Botch, i envy you.
ErikEdge 2 years ago
seriously jealous
calebzia 2 years ago
one of the bands of my life ,next to poison the well and deftones...I discover this concert now..Im orgasmic..
anormalnick 3 years ago 3
I agree with you, but i would much rather see bands on the same page as botch then all these new bands playing bring me the horizon shit.
ashidar 3 years ago 2
I often wonder if every piece of meat left on this bands bones hasn't been consumed by hoards of vultures masquerading as hardcore bands. There's definitely a lot to learn from this band, I just wish more bands would take a cue from them and evolve the genre rather than keeping it stagnant by simply imitating what they've done already.
Has anyone heard Dave V.'s new band, Narrows?
godis4sale 3 years ago 2
DUDE.
Narrows fucking rules.
AbasketOfOpinions 2 years ago
For sure. Their full length is coming out in a couple weeks. I think it's cool how they're exploring a more noise driven sound.
Deathwish has been putting out a lot of really good shit lately.
godis4sale 2 years ago
This set actually ends with the song Micaragua, can't believe no one else pointed that out yet.
voncorn 3 years ago
14:04-14:19 best 15 seconds of my life....
WC7495 3 years ago
i didnt know Buckethead was into Botch! this makes buckethead just a little bit cooler!
MattitudeXSensei 3 years ago
a friend of mine was like "guess what! i met the chariot today and was showing them around town (liverpool, uk), theyre a great band, you should check em out, a bit like norma jean, really original stuff!" i LOL'd
rymon8 3 years ago
kevinvsshark 3 years ago 2
Ashamed I am that I very very recently found this band, and was championing Norma Jean for so long - I love NJ, but they just wouldnt exist without Botch. Still the more the merrier I say, its a fabulous genre.
lukas989 3 years ago
Goddamnit Botch come back already. Modern Music needs you. a lot more than Minus the Bear, even though they're good.
karlfagerstrom 3 years ago
it was more blatant on their second cd though
reymundosonfire 3 years ago
botch is one of the heaviest hardcore bands of TIME ITSELF. and much respect for them sticking up for the fans who didn't feel like swinging fists or kicking feet. Botch, you will be missed.
atomicheeseball 3 years ago
what loop pedal does Dave use? i know that in MTB he's using a bunch of DL-4's. same for Botch?
motorhead412 3 years ago
thats pretty obvious camera
aldousband0000000000 3 years ago
nevermind
llIlII 4 years ago
c. thomas howell as the soul man
artcorrpse 4 years ago
anyone know what the first song is called?
llIlII 4 years ago
"To our friends in the great white north", from the "We Are The Romans" album (track number 1)
cheers
bim100 3 years ago
sorry its "C. Thomas Howell as the soul man" from the same album ahha the other one was on my player :P
bim100 3 years ago
their singer reminds me of a stocky josh scogin
aldousband0000000000 4 years ago
buy the dvd. it kicks ass
botch061502 4 years ago
teh original "metalcore" band, whatever that is.
number twelve looks like you
dillinger escape plan
norma jean
everytime i die
basically anyone who uses the minor 2nd interval during breakdowns owe their careers to this band
BigLeroy909 4 years ago
botch isnt fucking metalcore, and neither are norma jean and DEP
JuSTIn13666 4 years ago
yer metalcore is shit bands like atreyu and killswitch engage botch dont get labelled. and if they did it would be 'intensely amazing'
mohercore 4 years ago 4
EXACTLY.
"metalcore" as we know it, is just another trend of today. a pretty shallow style of "metal", if you ask me.
JuSTIn13666 4 years ago
I know that DEP was obviously influenced by these guys, but to be grouped with those other bands who basically ripped off this style is inaccurate I think. Calculating Infinity is one of the best hardcore albums ever.
reymundosonfire 3 years ago
R.I.P. Botch.
R.I.P. Fireside.
R.I.P. basically everything good about hardcore, ever.
DieScenesterScum 4 years ago 4
awesome video. 061502 is amazing. That and Kill The House Lights by Thursday are the best band DVD's ever.
Africanlord1234, its actually "STOP THE SHOW!!! LISTEN UP!!!"
The cat on the amp's name is chauncey.
kevinvsshark 4 years ago
If you love Botch check out their last show DVD... bought one cheap as hell from amazon... worth the price of a child! Commentary on it is funny as hell too!!!!
toranoshi20 4 years ago
lol, on top of their amps they have teddy bears and kittens!
owlertheprowler 4 years ago
START THE SHOW!
God i love botch. Converge. And Coalesce.
Africanlord1234 4 years ago 3
sweet
dodgemdolly 4 years ago
Wow!!!!It kicks ass!!!!!
66PhantomLord66 4 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
its so beautiful.....
calebzia 4 years ago 3
hey robinson, it`s clear that these guys are not playing metal, they`re playing a big genre mix, and they`re fucking awsome.
robertomosquera 4 years ago
Tim Latona is a great drummer. Where abouts is he now?
Drakorian7777 4 years ago
robison w.e should try to learn a botch song. its mathematical as fuck. so he shouldnt talk shit until hes been in their shoes.
logano 4 years ago 2
This has been flagged as spam show
these guys are fucking shit all they play is shitty break down chords and scream random shit listen to some real metal
robinson99chris 4 years ago
you sir, are an idiot.
owlertheprowler 4 years ago
Shut up.
JuSTIn13666 4 years ago
wow u are fucking stupid meat head. your stupid fat ass savage who just worships Slipknot cuz they paint their face. u dont fucking know shit when it comes to good music
botch061502 4 years ago
the set list is
1. C Thomas Howell Returns as the "soul man"
2. Oma
3. St. Thomas Returns to the Womb
4. Thank God For the Worker Bees
5. Hutton's Great Heat Engine
6. Mondrian Was a Liar
7. Transitions From Persona To Object
logano 4 years ago 4
DEP is an attempt to Botchness
Peaulisse 4 years ago
Anyone else at this show remember the naked guy who put his socks on his hands?
bottomofthehudson 4 years ago
Every time i see these videos I get a lil choked up. I was at the final botch show at the show box and it was fucking intense !
twoseebees 4 years ago
DRI is good, but Botch is a whole 'nother level mang... Seriously, listen to that rythym section lock in with the guitar.
"Once again, it's all an act"
SteveLongstreth 4 years ago
fuck yeah, i love every second of this, brings me back to all the times i saw them in highschool around seattle.
chords06 4 years ago
it sounds like DRI with a Scremo singer
metalheadomania 4 years ago
you know nothing about DRI
Peaulisse 4 years ago
EPIC
tomass2112 4 years ago
botch ftw tbh
Chrisxadam 4 years ago
wow i am very impressed with this band botch, ive never heard them before this post, thanks! i attended an ISIS show bit ti king ago and Aaron Turner had a BOTCH shirt on. im glad i investigated!
Redlegnav 4 years ago
i love this band so much i named my american bulldog:BOTCH
chongo666 4 years ago
botch fkin rock xD
doheeman 4 years ago
Well I guess there's just some people who listen to Botch because they love Botch, and some people that listen to Botch because it makes them a step ahead of Avenged Sevenfold/scenester trend fans.
BenjaminLee 4 years ago
In a way I am kind of glad that Botch never got as big as they deserved. If everyone loved Botch as much as I do then I'd be dumb like someone that listens to avenged sevenfold and not cool like someone who listens to Botch.
God bless.
tkpshane 5 years ago
Why all the hatin on norma jean if you love Botch so much? You and norma jean jean obviously have an apreciation for the same music and lets face it there not all that differnt, ud have to be damn ignerant to say there nothing alike. I sucks how everyone sees there opinions as the be all and end all of it (maybe that will sound hypocritical to some)
kirksheep 5 years ago
are dead serious guy, new norma jean sucks a fart out of my asshole. orig was tight but still have nothing on botch
pirateale 4 years ago
These guys are good and everything...but how are they better than Converge/TDEP?? I've heard so many people say that...not true...not true. These guys are a lil more accessible, which I guess is cool.
closer2death 5 years ago
I was at this show up front on the bassist's side. The singer nearly strangled me with the mic cord. The guitarist's style set me on a new path of guitar exploration. What an awesome show and a great orginal band!
wjotzat 5 years ago
Insanity!
Botch is so good!
Anyone know why such a brilliant band would break up?
enneit 5 years ago
can someone post the setlist?
iisshredsit 5 years ago
there will never be another hardcore band this good
b0ner 5 years ago
great fucking video, great fucking band.
techmetalfan 5 years ago
too much.
this is what hardcore did become.
unfortunately there aren't any bands that have stepped up to the plate such as these guys did.
R.I.P Botch, Deadguy, Refused
DrMotherfucker 5 years ago
MORE COWBELL
Corrupted94 5 years ago
fucking awesome!
nailthecaskett 5 years ago
FUCK YES ITS BOTCH
deadpandrums 5 years ago
ugh terrible
rawkeroller 5 years ago
get bent
techmetalfan 5 years ago
Can anyone figure out the full setlist? I'm unfamiliar with Botch's catalogue, but this is sickness! Thanks.
SteveLongstreth 5 years ago
whats the name of the first song????
faultandfracture 5 years ago
"C. Thomas Howell As The Soul Man".
LoudTintinnabulation 5 years ago
Soul man.. full name:
Botch - We Are the Romans - C. Thomas Howell as the "Soul Man"
ddstar 5 years ago
thanks!
faultandfracture 5 years ago
Who cares about NJ or the Chariot when there's 41 minutes of Botch to be had.
cavein 5 years ago
Why was this withheld for so many years? Evil people... better late than never though
Mephistophel1665 5 years ago
norma jean is okay, chariot are haircore kids. botch will stay alive forever. nj and chariot will be forgotten...
h3dg3 5 years ago
soul man owns
ddstar 5 years ago
i fucking LOVE botch
s3ans3an 5 years ago
*sigh* - Norma Jean have admitted they are largely influenced by Botch. Keller Harbin listed Botch as a major influence in an interview he did around the release of "Everything is..." by The Chariot.
Pretty much every noise/metalcore act that use unconventional time sigs. and have spazzy guitar fills love Botch.
Cos they were *and still are* legends.
P.S. - it was only Josh Scogin who left NJ to form The Chariot ;)
Lazarene 5 years ago
how is this video 41 minutes long? i thought there was some sort of time limit on youtube videos.
johnnycakes2k 5 years ago
botch is the greatest band ever bar none
NWA4life523 5 years ago
Norma Jean and The Chariot sound alike because after their first album, Norma Jean's singer and guitarist left to create The Chariot.
As for Botch, they are a great band, but I disagree with the notion that Norma Jean is a rip off of Botch.
LoudTintinnabulation 5 years ago
I was aware of Josh leaving after BTMKTC and joining The Chariot, but I don't think they sound that similar.
oldbloodstreams 5 years ago
Norma Jean are good, but I won't deny Botch's obvious influence on them (the same goes for The Chariot). I like Botch a lot more though, the guitaring in the opening song is fucking sick.
oldbloodstreams 5 years ago
I agree that Botch had a heavy influence on Norma Jean (although I think The Chariot sound more like them) but I don't think Norma Jean suck. I like Botch more though, and this video is awesome. The guitaring in the opening track is sick.
oldbloodstreams 5 years ago
cooooooooool!!!
LINDAhardcoreosaka 5 years ago
uhh... impur1ty... i think you totally read his post wrong. just a little heads up
atelevisedwar 5 years ago
fact: record sales mean nothing compared to talent. fact: norma jean sucks. fact: you wear girl pants. fact: these comments are directed to user "ifuckingtriumph" false: u are so cool. welcome ot the internet nub
impur1ty 5 years ago
fuck norma jean they can't even claim to rip off this band even a ripoff would be cooler than there real stuff
hyper8casey 5 years ago
fuck norma jean
daca 5 years ago
Anyone who says Norma Jean didn't rip off Botch is a complete moron. Shame that "Bless The Martyr" has sold more copies of cds than Botch's entire catalogue.
ifuckingtriumph 5 years ago
yeah they do, norma jean ripped off botch so bad. Listen to Botchs album We are the romans. and you'll see that norma jean copy'd these dudes completely.
defeatism 5 years ago
no they don't. sweet video tho
hyper8casey 5 years ago
listen to it again, and if you still have the same ignorant claim, shoot yourself. it's pretty fucking blatant. but let's not forget coalesce, another great band that norma jean has blatantly copied. long live botch and coalesce.
techmetalfan 5 years ago
whoa norma jean does sound like these guys.
mrwetback 5 years ago
oh my god
Spiderland1 5 years ago
set list anyone?
TheShotgunMessage 5 years ago
THANK YOU.. I CAN DIE NOW
nkife 5 years ago
yeah seriously i can die happy.
MoyaSlowRiot 5 years ago
We want the dvd !!!!1one!
tkpshane 5 years ago
Omaaaaa..<3
Ian
Icecoldbagey 5 years ago
the singer was wearing the exact same shirt when they played in Louisville.
olderthanyou 5 years ago
my favorite video on YouTube ever! botch is fucking amazing
bloodXinXtheXsnow 5 years ago
goddamn.... transitions from persona to object was insane. saint matthew returns to the womb was pretty sick too.
SurfinNoodles 5 years ago
if i ever marry someone its gonna be botch
halbstark 5 years ago
the band of my late youthhood...
halbstark 5 years ago
saint matthew returns to the womb was amazing
xgcbotch 5 years ago
Saw Botch with All Else Failed and The Dillinger Escape Plan, Sadly I didnt even know about them till their last 5 shows and I live only like an hour and a half from Tacoma. Hopefully someday they will realize that the world is in dire need of them and return.
tkpshane 5 years ago
You are amazing for posting this! Thanx so much!
Questdgw 5 years ago
botch is amazing
one of our influences
wouldve been awesome to actually see them live
thissilentearth 5 years ago
Botch se salen!!
Microbio4 5 years ago
WOH...GREAT!!! thanks!!!
maharishiyogi 5 years ago
This is sweet! If I had one wish, it would be to see Botch live. Damn.
Morderkaj 6 years ago
I remember this show used to be up on some site, I fell in love with Botch after I saw how ape-shit the guitarist could go while still playing crazy stuff. Wish I got the chance to see them live. Fuck.
madvillain 6 years ago
its too bad that their DVD will never come out. this is pretty slick.
betterinsodapop 6 years ago
Not true. Brian says the dvd is almost finished.
killsandthrills 5 years ago
They've been saying that since 2005. I hope you are right, though!
betterinsodapop 5 years ago
It's out
oldbloodstreams 5 years ago
and it is glorious!
betterinsodapop 5 years ago
and I agree
oldbloodstreams 5 years ago
thanks for posting this
artcorrpse 6 years ago
i love how someone screams "BOTCH!" at every minus the bear show i go to.
amazing band.
stop08it 6 years ago
this is beautiful. thanks much!
lennycharles 6 years ago
easily one of the best bands of all time. great video.
cuntcuntcunt 6 years ago