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[Raiden3651]

Treasure loves their bittersweet endings. Green's death in Gunstar Heroes. The split between the Guardian Heroes in Advance Guardian Heroes, and even this and Ikaruga.

[Raiden7284677]

Maybe based on this storyline, the game has a theme of nature.

[GreentheGunstar]

Do you think the Stone-Like could be the secret fifth gem of Golden Silver? \_\

[927541]

Damn Stone-Like! You're just putting us all in a loop! D>:

Just kidding. What's actually happening is that this future can occur any number of times as Stone-Like resets humanity by bringing Creator back into the past. This future could occur all over again (and has at least once) which is why Creator's fossilized self is present in this timeline. Other possibilities could occur as well, the "hope" described by Creator including the world of Ikaruga in which Stone-Like is finally destroyed.

[GreentheGunstar]

0:50

\_\ One thing I don't understand is...what year is the "20 years later" relative to? That, and, either way, I don't think the whole cloning process would work. I mean, if the Creator is now in 9980 BC, then how did he go back in time also? Did the StoneLike's power happen to bring him back too? If it's just that there was another Creator waiting in the past, then the PAST Creator has no way to clone Reana and Buster since the PRESENT Creator is the one with their hair, not the PAST Creator

[GreentheGunstar]

And if it's the year 2541 AD, then where did the Creator get the materials to clone the two pilots? I would assume that the present Earth is still just as shitty as it was when Buster and Reana left--a desolate ball of ruin where EVERYTHING THAT MOVES is out to try and kill the Creator. I don't know, I just don't believe that, out of all the wreckage, there'd be a perfectly-intact underground cloning lab.

-_-...Maybe I'm just nitpicking too much. Maybe I just need to shut up and enjoy the game.

[DoctorAnonymousMD]

It's worth noting that the Stone-Like is a physical manifestation of the Earth itself, therefore its repetition of this process is most likely in self-defense as much as anything else.

[GreentheGunstar]

0:55

\_\;...How much shit would Creator be in if he had forgotten to ask them for that favor? I can just imagine...

*20 Years later*

Creator:...Hmm...Was I supposed to do something back then?...Hmm...^_^! Oh! That's right. I was supposed to ask for hair samples from Buster and Rea--O_O!

*DUN! DUN!* O_O oh my god *DUN! DUN!* O_O Oh my God *DUN! DUN!* O_O OH MY GO--wait a minute...*opens chest compartment* ^_^ Oooh-HAHAH! I still have their urine samples. ^o^ HAHA! Now then...let's begin.

[MPCozmo]

This game owned me in a way I cannot describe.

Yet it was infinitely epic at the same time.

[valnavat2nd]

3:00 - :'( May the last humans of the next world remember you...

The Stone-Like awakening to reset humanity sort of makes sense - the surface of the earth was filled with layer upon layer of man-made structures by the time it was dug out, which implies pollution, among other things. Doesn't stop it from being a jerk though.

[SoldadoEterno]

lol, why all vote me negative?

ikaruga IS the 2ºcond part of this game..

unofficial, obviusly..

[SoldadoEterno]

excelent! Ikaruga is the 2ºcond part of radiant silvergun!

[supercj12]

is it?

[SoldadoEterno]

yep

[supercj12]

cool, cause i found ikaruga at gamestopp for 30 buck in pretty good condition, bought it on the spot.

[wirelessoptical]

Why does leana look like her face is metling?

[ShadowWolf3998]

Wonder if the clones had the memories of the real Baster and Reana.

Probually not. But it'd be awfully weird to suddenly wake up in an 'Eden' with no memories...

[omgwtflolzbbq]

epic BGM

[XGiftedGamerX]

My only question is what exactly is the lesson we were suppose to learn and why do we NEED to learn it or otherwise get blown to bits by a almighty crystal thingy...???

[ShadowWolf3998]

Basically, the people of that world where selfish and warlike. The Stone-like wishes for all humanity to live in peace, so it resets the world untill humans eventually live together without war.

[supercj12]

how the hell does the crystal like god supposed to do that when pretty much all life has been totally oblinerated.

[Vassalius]

@ShadowWolf3998 SO I guess in Ikaruga, what all the Buddhist symbolism meant was Shinra serving as the person the Stone Like judged. So maybe when it was destroyed, it was accepting that Shinara had proved humanity's worth. The text after Shinra sacrifices himself way support that.

[TheGameroomBlitz]

Whoa, the new Battlestar Galactica ended kind of like this!

[mab5458]

I actually had a dream of this recently. It went like this: The two pilots, Buster and Reana, instead of flying away from the explosion, try to enter the Stone-Like to stop the world's destruction. However, everything seems hopeless despite their efforts to try to stop the destruction, and in their final moments, the two embrace each other before they are destroyed in the explosion. Then the exact same scene with the main characters being cloned occurs.

[Natsueme]

Ikaruga is only a spiritual sequel, which means certain gameplay factors or items are carried over but aren't necessarily the same thing, the Stone-like you see in this is not the same Stone-like from Ikaruga, or vice versa.

[krylonkoopa]

I thought it was a nice ending. I just dont wanna pony up the 150$ or more for the game

[ChrisDigby]

Rumours are that it may be coming out for XBL.

[juliox9]

and 1 more thing man that chick really haves big boobs

[juliox9]

mmm now i see in these all mankind dieds only the clones live like adam and eve, but the prism is not detroyed and returns to be finally destroyed in ikaruga but that time only the heros died and not all humans

[Ebb1993]

Why do some of the pictures in this ending remind me of Blade Runner and Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome?

[sacrisesma]

What a terrible, terrible ending. And don't give me that crap that it doesn't need to be happy to be good. After all that effort trying not to die during all the game there must be a happy ending, even if it's just for the hardest modes.

This is just a big "FUCK YOU" from the developers: "Congratulations, you've just spent dozens of hours on a videogame, and we are not even going to give you a false sense of accomplishment". It reminds me of that Guitar Hero episode on South Park.

[Ebb1993]

I think they said the same thing with Ikaruga. All great things must have flaws.

[Taimaka]

If you understood the importance of the story, then you'd know why Radiant Silvergun ended the way it did.

[decapattack]

@sacrisesma Wow, how old are you? 7?

[Vassalius]

@sacrisesma No, that would be Chrono Trigger DS' secret ending. This is actually good.

[Ebb1993]

This game is f***ing around with SHMUP players.

[ShmupMike]

Ok that makes more sense now, and I can see the connection with the young girl and boy in Ikaruga (forget their names Shinra??) I dont think it makes a game bad at all if it has a downer ending, just because you go to great lenghts to beat these games don't expect the typical happy ending

[Ebb1993]

Also, Ikaruga, like Radiant Silvergun before it, also had a tragic ending. Shinra (the hero of Ikaruga) fires his lasers at the Stone-like and he and the Stone-like blow up and die. Sorry I spoiled the ending to Ikaruga, though...

[Vassalius]

@Ebb1993 I believe I heard that in the supplementary material, Shinra acceded to heaven for his act. So it's more of a Bittersweet ending, and it fitted with the theme "I will not die until I achieve something"

[Ebb1993]

Which game is better now, this game, Ikaruga, or Einhander?

[Ebb1993]

What a poor ending to an awesome game.

[Kiyosuki]

I don't think sad or downer endings mean its a bad ending necessarilly (I mean Ikaruga's is minimal at best.) its just that a lot of shooters seem to have them.

[Ebb1993]

Do you really mean that? Because even if Radiant Silvergun and Ikaruga are great shooters, They acted more like war dramas, rather being upbeat and colorful.

[Kiyosuki]

Well, why does it have to have a colorful and upbeat ending to be good?

[Ebb1993]

Yeah, actually. I mean, look at the 1986 film Top Gun. It was a war film, but it had a mega-happy ending, why can't Radiant Silvergun and Ikaruga have that?

[masterkill107]

cause this is treasure's ultimate game

[Kiyosuki]

Also, the Guardian of the Earth is pretty damn pretentious in this if you think about it. How is humanity supposed to learn, if they don't even know what mistake they're supposed to be learning from or trying to avoid? Its like the Earth's rerunning the universe's greatest practical joke over and over. lol

[artman40]

Well, that makes Stone-Like one of the biggest villains and hypocrites of all the time who's trying to just screw around with humanity.

[927541]

@Kiyosuki Lol at least Stone-Like gets what it deserves in 'Ikagura'. Shinra finally ends the never-ending cycle of metempsychosis by ridding the universe of that pretentious, egotistical, octahedral pain-in-the-butt.

'Radiant Silvergun' is all about cycles. 'Ikagura' is about breaking cycles.

[GreentheGunstar]

@Kiyosuki

You know what I think? (>_> This may sound PRETTY retarded but) I think that the Stone-Like's gripe with humanity is that humans want to live in peace when the Stone-Like is trying to make them soldiers against Outer Space. Okay, yes, I'm kinda tryin to connect RS to Sin and Punishment series, but think about it. Stone-Like never explains fully about his wiping out humanity, and in S&P, Isa blames his dad's turning into a Rufiian on 'God,' who might very well be the Stone-Like.

[leon4000]

@GreentheGunstar ....ok...all I know is that stone like is pretty dumb enough to think that humans can get it right to make the certain future that won't make it destroy the species...it's pretty much wasting its time. Because as long as there's one fool to make some stupid decision that messes up the future, it's a big loop-hole from here on out. The humans won't know what to do to avoid being erased again, all they know is that as a species they move on with time.

[Kiyosuki]

Damn man, this, R-Type final, Ikaruga, what is it with shooters and depressing endings? lol

[Ebb1993]

I know, it makes shooters feel bad now.

[Ebb1993]

R-Type Final has multiple endings, actually. Instead of you ending the Bydo once and for all and drifting down infinitely through the Bydo tunnel, in F-B, you enter a past stage and you fight an R-9. After you defeat it, you fly out of the area. In F-C, you must try to get to the year 2501 while fighting off hordes of enemies.

[Cantido]

Their life sucks!

[asakut]

May fortune be with you...

[NiGHTSintodreams]

Can someone give me the gist of the story please?

[geebz86]

search google for "silver translations"

its got a complete translation of all the cut scenes and the narration, plus other random stuff too. hope that clears it up :)

[PsychoJosh]

This is the bad ending right

[sfried]

No, it's the real ending. Treasure was like the Gainax of videogames back then.

[PsychoJosh]

Gainax?

[SchizoWolf]

Responsible for that one anime, Evangelion.

Everyone dies, trippy stuff happens.

[sfried]

Funny thing is, Gainax also made a few games themselves. But in terms of screwing with/exploiting game mechanics, Treasure has a reputation...

[masterkill107]

did you know that guy died in the game?

[Ebb1993]

What do you mean by, "Treasure was like the Gainax of videogames back then?" Is it because Gainax was criticized by its downer endings? And not only Gainax, but also GONZO. Ever since the ending of Chrono Crusade, I heavily criticized GONZO for Chrono Crusade's ending, saying, "GONZO is a bunch of Gainax wannabes!" And GONZO made the artwork for this game.

[Ebb1993]

GONZO and Gainax are the killers and bad boys of anime...

[ManRayDali]

Domo Arigato, Mr. Roboto!

[WingZeroKai]

nice...