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  • afghanistan is the graveyard of empires because since ancient greece, powers which tried to conquer it (albeit afghanistan as an entity seperate from iran exists not before the 18th century) didn't really succeed and rather these powers (like the arab caliphate, mongol empire, the british empire, the soviet union) themselves imploded. same will happen to usa.

  • good vid, my fathers brothers, sisters, their husbands and wives, and their sons and daughters and his mom are in Afghanistan right now. Let me tell you by what ive heard from them ( in kabul ) the afghan people dont support america, dont support the taliban, they dont know who to support! Because under the taliban they met a dark rule,which people say islamic rule, but it was not even islamic.. Nothing to do with islam,everything to do with the idiots who ruled! Theysaythey prefferedtheSoviets

  • 9/11 = govt operation after assassination of Commander Massoud

  • Libertarians and Anarchists have an interesting commonality, they both hate America so much they ignore obviously immoral statist enemies to freedom and America so they can focus their attetion on the American Military. I've got news for you, when it comes to countries of the world, there is no place i'd rather be, or military i'd rather have defending me than Americas. Obviously I'd rather live in a rational society with laissez faire Capitalism, but alas I cannot.

  • @Twiggy269 You are a true Orwellian image of a brainwashed dupe. Congratulations! Have you ever travelled outside of the USA? Spent time in other cultures? Acquired firsthand knowledge instead of government funded propaganda? I'm guessing not. YOU HAVE ONLY THE FREEDOM YOUR MASTERS ALLOW YOU TO HAVE.

  • @pretorious700

    Thanks for the congratulations, but, you have failed to address anything i've stated in any of my comments on this video. You can sling all the mud you want, and make all of the assumptions about my life, my travels and beliefs, thats fine, just don't think you're actually challenging anything i've said. Get back to me when you feel like actually engaging in a real debate. As far as I can tell so far, you have nothing of substance to say. 

  • @Twiggy269 what exactly have you said that would warrant challenge? you are a stereotype of stupidity

  • America u will ve the same destiny as the USSR, if u dont belive me, than just ask the russians, lol

    have a nice day everyone beside the occupiers,

    Occupiers Fuck u

  • I really hope your predictions are wrong.

  • Believe me, if it was not for 9/11 being an inside job the U.S. people would be banging down the recruiters doors, and they would have more troops than they would know what to do with.

  • ''AN EYE FOR AN EYE MAKES THE WHOLE WORLD BLIND'''

    SHEGIWAL....

  • the Who

  • I would have to correct you about the location of Afghanistan, it's a southern asian nation, not a middle eastern nation.

  • it is very distressing to me that he has sent in a massive invasion during the olympics and guess what 12 civilians have paid the cost. I wanted him to get us out of there. who knew?

  • Thank you for illuminating me on this subject. It's clear more than ever that the more we remain in Afghanistan the more the US "empire" will continue to crumble. I insist that our US leaders learn the lessons of history so as to no repeat those mistakes yet again.

  • BRAVO!!!

  • I know that you don't like to use facts in your arguments but they really are helpful for the uneducated (like me).

  • btw afghan resistance or lets say traditional afghan resistance is not warlord .

    they arent loyal to any warlord.

    its a temperory thing,when war is over and there is no need these people are just carpenters,farmers,engineers etc.

  • im proud to be a muslim pashtun afghan

    graveyard of empires it is if you think you can oppress this free nation.

  • how do you have internet in Afghanistan?

  • not so well

    could be better

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  • dont worry about my grammer

    english is not my language,i speak many languages.

    and if didnt get the point,than it doesnt have to.

  • "grammar"

  • the afghans will hopefully defeat the evil american soldiers and goverment .long live afghanistan

  • Good one Stef.

    Right to the end!

    Good vid!

  • Give the Commanders in the field what they need, not what Nobama is trying to pacify the Left with. If not, then bring our troops home and turn the middles east in to a glass bowl. If you don't stop the evilness over there, it will be on our streets.

    Nobama has no experience in 'anything', he is an empty suit, he refuses to listen to the people he hired to advise him. He has turned America into a joke, and is running our country in the ground.

  • They are ALL empty suits. I think the Commanders shud all come home and start changing the diapers on their own babies!

  • This guy spoke well and the truth. Immediately after Obama announced the surge, the Taliban responded with the following two sentences. Yes, just two sentences and it was reported on Aljazeera. 1) Now, we are going to have more targets to kill.

    2) The U.S. will hammer the final nail in its own coffin by bleeding its economy into bankruptcy followed by poverty followed by civil war and finally into disintegration.

  • Brilliant vid, Westpointers hang your heads...The 2008 Nobel Peace Prize winner is escalating a war which cannot be won. That is quite a tail to tell to our children who we do not want to be sold to another State farm..in leu of the debts the State cannot pay.

  • People should learn more about AFGHAN history and their nature,, cuz afghans unlike arabs,, afghans have no enemity with westerners or americans... But if you fuck with the afghans,, they will for sure FUCK YOU UP and teach a lesson that you will never forget,,

  • WOW, i am impressed with your video. you are a very noble man,

    Very Important info you explained in here

  • The Soviets held on to their position in Afganistan for almost 10 years WHILE their opponents were trained, financed and supplied with modern weapons by the USA!! As bad as things are now for the US in there, imagine how much worse could it be if the whoever opposes them would be supported by another superpower.

  • Your tone of Libertarian, blame America first isolationist attitude is a bigger threat to the American people's freedom and safety than you'd like to admit to. Anyone with haf a brain knows that the Islamic Totalitarianists hate western society because of our (implicit) value of freedom and life (used to be much more explicit) and our denial of Sharia law as legitimate in any way shape or form. We could pull out all our military forces and the Islamo fascists would still despise us.

  • Twiggy, Firstly, you can't really, REALLY think that the of people in Afghanistan hate us because we love our freedom and our lives.That just doesn't make sense. I'm sure they would rather just be left alone (real freedom) and make a living (their life). Do YOU hate them because they want freedom and life? Of course not!

    If you really, REALLY believe that, then I am thinking that "haf a brain" isn't a typo.

  • Not one of the 9/11 hijackers was from Afghanistan, most of course were from Saudi Arabia. They did train on a few monkey bars in Afghanistan.

  • Country of origin has little to do with the big picture honestly, I think we're looking at this War with too fine of a comb. It isn't about Afghanistan, or Saudi Arabia, or Iraq, it has to do with Islamic Fundamentalism, and the sponsers of the Muslim religion. I personally think you could get a ton more accomplished by focusing on Iran, that is where the money comes from, and that is where the Intellectual leadership is. America needs to acknowledge its moral high ground in fighting this war

  • A few thousand Islamic fundamentalists manage to kill a few thousand US citizens, their perceived enemies, after having watched hundreds of thousands of Middle Easterners die through decades of US military actions overseas. That is why, they say, the US military must now escalate these actions.

    "Moral high ground." What a joke.

    "America" is a vague basket term for hundreds of millions of people with little to nothing in common. It doesn't need to acknowledge anything. Nor can it.

  • A war against such a vague entity as "Islamic Fundamentalism" is completely different than a war against a nation. It's a war that cannot be won.

  • On the contrary, islamic fundamentalism is much more of a precise term to use to describe the enemy than "Terrorist" is. That would be like saying our enemy in WWII were kamakazi fighters. Sure, it was a tactic used, but it would have been a terrible way to describe our enemy.

    You win this war by making the 85% of non-violent muslims unsympathetic to the extremists. If not for the vast majority of the muslim population accepting their radical fringes, they would all but dissapear

  • @stefbot You just owned the living fuck out of Twiggy with two simple yet well crafted sentences. I applaud you my friend.

  • @Twiggy269

    So they (Al Qaeda) conduct 9/11 and that gives US/Coalition Forces the right to invade and starve a million innocent Afghans does it? And that's just the beginning of the genocide. When did the US provide evidence to the Afghans, warranting extradition pf Bin Laden and his networks?

  • @Twiggy269 lower recruited ranks are to be suicidal but the top leaders do not share the same fate. And by that logic Saudi should have been invaded first since most of the hyjackers were from there.

  • your not a military strategist, your a bald civilian

  • @didymoose3

    "your not a military strategist, your a bald civilian"

    Grammar and spelling anyone?

    Unless you really think I have no hair that is.

    Anyways, from Stef's reply quote : "Not one of the 9/11 hijackers was from Afghanistan"

    Is a convenient way of side stepping the issue that this is not a war based on geographical boundaries (i.e. it's the Afghani people, is the Iraqi's etc who are our enemy) it is any person who believes in Islamic totalitarianism, and jihad

  • @Twigg

    Osama been never indicted by the US government for 911 and he is not even a suspect of that attack! FBI chief Robert Muller said they have no evidence of Osama involved in that attack. Please visit FBI webpage and see it for yourself. 911 was a Israely false flag operation helped by the US flunkeys therefore the total war on terra is fraud. You make the Muslim of your enemy by your own evil deed in Palestine and you are using american Christian to do your dirty job and grab more land.

  • @partridgecaravan

    Again, trying to divert the conversation by targeting specific individuals, or countries is simply a way of avoiding the underlying premise.

    You do this because if you don't, you would be forced to defend the Religious zealots and tyrannical dictators of the Muslim world, and I know you don't want to go there. The interesting thing is that you hate America so much that you would rather ignore these 7th century savages so you can focus your attetion on the great satan USA.

  • Abu Hurairah (R.A.) says that the Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وسلم said: "(Armies carrying) Black Flags will come from Khorasan. No power will be able to stop them and they will finally reach Eelya إيلياء (Jerusalem) where they will erect their flags". (Tirmizi)

    The people of Afghanistan are the "Lost tribe of Israel" and they are the rightful owner of Palestine beside the local Palestinians! Thats why they were targeted throughout history in order to stop them approaching Jerusalem !!

  • @Twiggy269 The government loves easy marks like you.

  • @Twiggy269 lol, and your credibility is what exactly? please don't tell me you believe the government 9/11 fairy tale-some mouth breathing bedouins in Aghanistan who literally eat with one hand and wipe their asses with the other planned and executed the attack? Are you serious?

  • It is a good video, but it IS capitalism in the background, I just do not find convincing that "state capitalism" is worst than the idealistic lullaby of the self-organizing and self-sustaining, and supposedly omnipotent free market capitalism. I agree with everything else you said.

  • The word "capitalism" is usually taken to mean what you're calling "free market capitalism." State capitalism isn't capitalism in this sense. It's mercantilism.

    I understand advocates of the free market can seem pretty wonky a lot of the time. But I doubt any of them would call the market omnipotent. Optimal is the good word for it, I'd think. Amazing, as well?

    Consider this. Almost all the technology you use to post a comment on YouTube was developed exclusively by free market forces.

  • Technology nor democracy is inherently part of capitalism. Of course in our times technology is delivered by capitalism, what else? In reality technology is given by creativity, knowledge and learning, it doesn't matter in what socio-economic milieu it has to function. If you meant that the mass-access to things is made possible by capitalism, here and now, then I agree. Yet capitalism can also be a detriment to progressive scientific and technological progress, making them depending on demand.

  • For me state "mercantilism" and mercantilism as such as it presents itself in free market are sharing the same roots, they are founded on the same basic logic of functioning.

    Many, too many things become corrupted, vulgarized and their real meaning leveled to consumerist standards. When science depends on the money of those who seek technology only for profit what emerges is: lot of junk, and many sciences abandoned because unprofitable.

    By the way, most things we use are made by the Chinese,

  • good vid, but can you make a vid going more involed into the economy-al qaeda connection

  • I think you may find that the main difference between "State Mercantilism" and "The Free Market", is that the 1st depends upon "The GUN", and the 2nd relies upon peaceful, voluntary interactions. Also don't confuse the products of THEFT with peacefully gained PROFIT..In the State model of Mercantilism,corperations, call theft--PROFIT.

  • One cannot wage war under present conditions without the support of public opinion, which is tremendously molded by the press and other forms of propaganda - General Douglas MacArthur.

  • So flying the planes lnto the towers was an attack on the american economy

    I can see how that would cause a housing market melt down

    Your smarter than you look

  • @Bowdeen Yes, it was an attack on the economy. Go read the declassified documents about CIA training Afghan troops to fight Soviet Russia, it's not exactly a secret strategy. 9/11 created the public opinion that allowed America to go to War. America inflates the currency (because people would notice direct taxation, but the wealth is gone either way) and the wealth is destroyed by cheap weaponary and guerilla warfare. Plane=$10,000,000, Surface-to-Air Missile= $100,000... do the Maths.

  • It is too bad for us that you are not as smart as you think you are

    Your being led around by the nose like the rest Declassified documents Please

    You will not find out anything they don't want you to know

    But I will pass it along that YOU have all the Answers and can do math

  • I have yet to claim to be smart. I understand the theory of relativity, I could never discover it. I understand the superiority of Anarchism and accepting the truth about America's life long war in the middle east, but I could hardly conceive it. I'm hardly led around, this understanding isn't exactly mentioned ever in my daily life. However, I did take the time to read official al qaeda material and read CIA information on Afghan training, perhaps you should before commenting that it's wrong.

  • I also don't remember saying i knew everything about the CIA. I do remember refering to one empiricaly released fact, and your claim that they don't tell me anything more means that their is more information, not less. You do not deny my points, only pretend them away because you don't like them, and that's just not mature. The fact is, whether they released the information to play up to people like me, the technique being used by the Afghans is well known, it's not even questionable!

  • Pretend them away??? How old are you

    Stop reading dribble

    Get over yourself

    I am sorry I made fun of your Opinion

    It is your own

    I can not tell you how I know But you are in the right forest barking up the wrong tree

  • What opinion. I repeat, you don't have to read opinion, or interpretation to learn any of this. Read the original Al Qaeda and CIA documents. I'm not barking up any tree, I have no interest in any of this statist war rubbish and stay far away from it, so grow up pretending to have some elightened comprehension. Again, I didn't stumble upon anything, PhD's aren't unaware, and having a PhD has nothing todo with this, don't glorify intellectuals, you child. Again, what opinion? Official documents.

  • It seems you have a lot of time on your hands kid Get some help with that enlightened opinion.

    Remmber check your spelling &

    See a shink

    I am a busy adult and will no longer be responding to your dribble

  • I am so sorry. I reall feel for you and your dead mind. I hope that you can find consolidation in your illussion, because you will never find freedom or happiness when you cling to imaginary arguments and falsehoods that you clearly know aren't true.

  • And of course.. when did i Say I have all the answers? All I know about the terrorists motives is exactly what they say, nothing more. That includes their method of warfare, which they have admitted, and which is identical to that technique claimed by the CIA (not that this matters, you can see the obvious devistating effect yourself), and so I dont understand what youre even questioning with your sarcasm. Anyone can do the MathS. It's obvious, defense is cheap, attack is expensive.

  • Telling someone to (Do the math) as you did is sarcasm at its highest The point is this is an oppion Your Oppion not known fact

    Have you ever wondered with all the PHDs out there that YOU stumbled on the truth of the matter That only You have seen thru all the smoke and behind the mirrors But it was nice of you to share your OPPION with us

  • Cant Stop The New World Order

  • This is fantast Stef!!!! Nuff Sed

  • Thank you! I love hearing honesty about our gov't and somebody else spreading the word that war is ONLY for profit for very few people, and the expense is on the hapless people.

  • I didn't know that they openly stated their goal. Fascinating. Thanks.

  • Thanks Stef I think this is one of the best articles you've ever done! Fantastic job!

  • yes verry informative thnx alot m8.

  • Outstanding.

  • Amazing video Stef, I will be showing all my friends.

    Hope you are well.

  • Excellent video. Thank you for posting. RJ

  • You're more than welcome, thank you for watching!

  • Please mind the war profits of the private money creators in London. The western governments need their phony fiat money to maintain the war in Afghanistan. This war was created by the private money creators in London, by the same people who orchestrated 9/11.

  • Brilliant! Thanks for this video

  • from the 1998 congressional record;

    From the outset, we have made it clear that construction of the pipeline we have proposed across Afghanistan could not begin until a recognized government is in place that has the confidence of governments, lenders, and our company.

    Freedom......

  • too long but still good

  • good vid

  • Because the U.S. Soldier is someone's son or daughter and they do not always believe the bullshit from the white house thats why, they are people, human being putting their life on th eline for what they believe is the freedom for the nation, but in reality,,they are feeding the industrial military complex...creating destruction and death...using the U.S. soldiers as muscle to get their agenda done. thats why....if you have any more questions you can check out my channel....have a nice day.

  • you are correct about the dominos, and no sir they are not stupid and what you will find is that the comabt soldier on the ground will agree with you and he will ask you ...What are we doing here? But the guys at the top are using the soldiers as muscle to steal the natural resources. I know that...but dont get down on joe out there trying to stay alive until his tour is up ok...Ill post a vidoe response to make things a little more clear. We are on the same sheet of music..Rope-a-dope..man!

  • In order to follow that train of thought one needs to prove that any profit has been made from natural resources. And it has not. All theory no substance.

  • "first lets remember to never ever speak with poorly about the U.S. soldier! "

    Why is that?

  • Soldiers aren't bulletproof from criticism. Some still have free will and can choose to not train and kill. God dissolve the republic.

  • I hate to say it, and out of respect, I don't run around saying it to the military people I know or meet, but they're the ones dumb enough to raise their hands and say "I'd like to bring the US to financial collapse by killing foreign people, and I'd like to risk my own life doing so".

    Let's raise the question "What if no one volunteered into this stupidity?". Part of me wonders if it isn't the soldiers fault entirely. Where would the military be without them? This ain't conscription into Nam.

  • stefbot

    I guess the boys smoking the big cigars

    sat barry sorento down then showed him the never before seen angle of the JFK assasination film.

  • I personally think Al-Qaeda is led by a group of non-muslim arabics with training and personal contact with the CIA(especially) and other black-ops from various nations in the EU/UN/NATO; to do the old dance of debasement under the premise of waging war against an economy that is being led into destruction from within by a false incompetency. Consolidate all enemies into a friendship(love of money, power and bitches =D ) because they have a common enemy.....peasants with history & without time.

  • That was powerful, Stef. I've had thoughts of my own similar to it, but I attributed it to schadenfreude concerning the economic collapse of the government and not as a direct link to the government's collapse or to the people in Afghanistan.

  • I don't understand why it doesn't have anything to do with capitialism :(. What podcast explains this?

  • Stef,

    I was wondering if you could post some references to where you get this information. Perhaps on the boards somewhere? I'm just interested to know where you source it all.

    Regards,

    Lehmo

  • Its mainstream history... you can get it from almost anywhere. Doesn't mean its all correct of course.

  • The reason McCrystal wants more is because in the military asking for more is never bad. If people say yes and you win you're vindicated. If they say yes and you lose you either say you needed even more or you say that you would have lost worse if you didn't have the extra. If they say no and you lose well pass the blame. if they say no and you win nobody will remember you asked for more than you needed.

  • "Head Psycho"

    lolz

  • it's also that the most aggressive and gullible genes get washed out of the gene pool.

  • Wed Dec 2, 2009, WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Top U.S. officials said the first of 30,000 new U.S. troops would arrive in Afghanistan in two to three weeks.

  • What was the word he used at 10:47 Recantalism?

  • mercantilism

  • Excellent video and I really appreciate you posting it! Bring the troops HOME NOW!

  • Well said. The West cannot change the Middle Eastern culture by militant force.

  • Amazing work Stef!

  • The only way for the average joe to win is for the U.S to fail quickly

  • Hi Stef

    Good vid - Ta

    USA had no intention of beating Afghanistan. 3 main reasons to go there - Oil pipeline, maintain Opium supply to US and gateway to Pakistan.

    Afghanistan isn't meant to end, just like Vietnam was never meant to end.

    Taliban is very very small but is at least partially financed by US.

    "insurgents" is not a good term for you to use. Maybe freedom fighters or patriots or something is more accurate. Remember Vietnamese were called insurgents - They f***n live there!

    Cheers

  • Excellent points, thank you for posting!

  • Hey! Thank you Stef for some great videos.

    I have tried to work my way through some of your videos. Excellent stuff, but it's a bit like a kid in a sweet shop. Don't know where to begin. So much good stuff.

    Hopefully your stuff will be on internet for a long time until I can work my way through it.

    Take it easy, and don't worry too much - I'm sure your hair will grow back again.

    (Jus kiddin)

    Ciao

  • Stef - of course your logic is very good, but the big picture seems to be nastier than you portray here.

    If Brezinski tricked USSR to go into Afghanistan to bankrupt USSR, then why did he make USA go there unless he had the same intention.

    As you know, thousands of US soldiers dead and wounded is tragic, but why do MOST videos on Youtube only mention US troops casualties and not the huge number of civilians.

    This is quite a scary idea that there is very little empathy for poor victims

    Cheers

  • " An army of principles can penetrate where an army of soldiers cannot. " - Thomas Paine

    " Governments do not raise taxes because they are at war; they go to war to raise taxes" - Thomas Paine

  • Stef seems actually pissed in this vid.

  • hit the nail right on the head!

  • I agree with some of your points, but I also believe that Obama's initiative has A LOT to do with nukes. ((((Wait))))) I agree with some of your points, but I also believe that Bin Laden's (sp) initiative has A LOT to do with nukes.

  • Very well done Stefan. I totally agree.

  • The entire political system is a joke. People are just finding it harder and harder to laugh at the train wreck.

  • people say to me that the collapse of the dollar will be our end. i say it is our only chance and the sooner the better...thanks prof. stef!!

  • excelent video. u should talk more about this. ive got a question for u tho, where do u get ur news from? which news papers do u read or what not? cuz i dont trust tv news casts for ovious reasons, so yah, where do u get ur stuff from ?? :) gl, say hi to ur baby, take care.

  • Consistently awesome.

  • Yes - it took me a minute to figure it out.

    This is how the USA will pull itself out of its recession and pay back its debit.

    We are now in the business of Nation Building. We will make our money building nations for countries that wish to rape and utilize its resources.

    Hurray... Hi Ho Hi Ho its off to the Bush/Cheney War we go!

    I do throw up a little in my mouth every time I think about it - seriously. I'm done with this corrupt government.

  • Excellent.

  • excellent video Stef. your candor is pure brilliance

  • FAIL

  • That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. lol

  • Very well said. I've been trying to tell people this same thing for years.

  • Ave, bossa nova, similis bossa seneca!

  • al qaeda.........lol. Good one!

  • Pace yourself Steph,

  • Stef

  • Hey guys. I this quote from the Information Clearing House (dot)com and I remember this as clear as day:

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank. "

    - Barack Obama, October 27, 2007

  • He was talking about Iraq, even though he hasn't done that either... He was an admitted warmonger on Afghanistan during the campaign.

  • that check sure did bounce high

  • What? A politician turns out to be a lying manuplative con man? Amazingly unsuprising.

  • I wasn't aware that Afghanistan had significant natural resources.

  • Oh yes. Precious metals and stones, oil, and other things. Afghan jewelry - created from local materials - is legendary for its beauty.

  • If you go to the Wiki article "Geography of Afghanistan" there is a list of natural resources, and sources to back the citations. :)

  • Heh, I actually looked at the Afghanistan wikipedia page after that post.

  • You mean...

    Lapis Lazuli?

  • Afghanistan has oil?

  • Why yes. Yes it does.

    sciencedaily. com/releases/2006/03/060314231­913. htm

    Take out the spaces, obviously.

  • the only goal of war is expansion of power...because no matter which sides wins, the people lose.

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