Barack Obama on Late Term Abortion

[Badam16]

@MissLucyBoomer ha

[modernecon]

Most late-term abortions are done either to save the life or protect the health of the mother, usually when the baby is too deformed to live outside the mother's body. The anti-choice people would prefer that a woman die than that an abortion take place, even if the fetus has no prospect of life. That's barbaric.

[the1calledv]

@modernecon Im so sick of this regergetated talking point- rarely is it genuinely"SAVE' a woman's life, the broad definition includes even the woman having depression. If it must happen- then why cant they just DELIVER the baby/ why kill it? Its practically born-with head still in vagina-complete body outside- the dr then stabs the babys neck with forceps to crush the spinal cord and brain.makes no sense-Deliver early if you must- but dont LIE to yourselves about whats really happening here.

[caitlinlikescats69]

McCain's faces though lol.

[sirroxalot]

How people just not fuck unprotected like a bunch of animals. That would help alot of issues.

[Keruaran]

I just watched a video of a late term abortion; I watched the murder of an infant and there was nothing I could do about what I saw except turn away from the horror of it and not look...

[bradleyandassociates]

51% of blacks never leave the womb because of abortion. Thanks to the racial cleansing of margaret sanger.

[StreghetteXXX]

he never was that brilliant in "cross examination", no?

[sandhilldiva]

the best choice a person could make is ADOPTION!!!!!!!!!

[RavenMichaels]

Theirs a difference between a person and fetus that is not cognizant and literally relies on someone else to live, in every sense of the word (rely). I'm against late term abortion and would be very disappointed in someone if they continually got pregnant and had abortions, but don't pretend a fetus is the same thing...

[mrcooldude964]

kill those 9 month old babys. vote for obama. he will make it legal. just think of the money on dipers youll save , vote for obama.

[mit871chell]

McCain is such a fucking dumbass look at his smirk, what a fucking prick.

[comicozy87]

I support abortions. If the mother isn't ready mentally or financially ready to have a child in her life than she should have the optoin to get rid of it.

[Geordi87]

@comicozy87

going by your logic.

i support "killing pregnant people who desire abortions". if the world isnt ready economically or financially to have deadbeats who make bad decisions, then the world should have the option to get rid of them.

[comicozy87]

@Geordi87 Um..That's not exactly what I meant. In a nutshell, all i'm saying is that if a baby will turn out to be more of a burden than a joy in life because of financial or personal matters, than why put that on ones self. There should at least be that opition because in some cases, that is the best choice a person can make.

[Geordi87]

@comicozy87

again, going by that logic, what would be the difference between a poor family killing their 3 year old daughter opposed to a poor family getting an abortion?

any way you look at it its straight up murder, you can gift wrap it all you want with denial, but the bottom line is, abortion is taking the life of another human being, regardless of age, it should be illegal.

But since it wont go away any time soon, i'd really like to see mandatory steralization of humans with abortions.

[TheRebe112]

Babys are little people are we that inhumane we have to kill our own kind

They could have grown up to be someone

They have rights at 16 weeks it is techinqually a baby.

It doesnt make any difference if you kill an unborn baby or a breathing one.

It is still a baby it still has senses.

[AmelieMermaid]

This is one of the reasons I voted for Obama. Got to protect our rights.

[patrioticprolifer]

@AmelieMermaid youre evil and so is obama

[FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7]

@AmelieMermaid ...to kill children

[TheSaltyAdmiral]

Funny how conservatives have so much love for the unborn, yet have so must hate and disgust for the born.

It is somehow a right for a fetus to get born, yet the necessary healthcare to survive after you are born are NOT a right. Go figure...

[AndyIsAlsoWatergun]

@TheSaltyAdmiral totally agree with ya. you know why that is? its because opposing abortion has nothing to do with the fetus or babies at all. it's about punishing a woman for having sex and being sexual. its about keeping biblical values in place. a woman is to be nothing but a baby factory. that's it. she shouldnt be having sex for any kind of pleasure. that's why so many of the christians argue that a woman should be forced to have the baby cuz she "shouldve kept her legs closed"

[steelers7thheaven]

If her life is in jeopardy, just deliver the baby, we do it all the time. If you believe waterboarding is cruel, how can you believe pulling a baby torso out of its mother and sticking a steel spike in the back of its head and sucking out its brain is OK? I guess because President Obama says it's OK then that makes it OK. Sorry, you probably found the facts of partial birth abortion offensive.

[BadLuck765]

@steelers7thheaven The question is, shouldn't that be the person's decision whose life is in jeapordy? Maybe instead, a painless, immediate way to terminate in this case should be proposed, rather than forcing a mother to deliver a baby that the doctors deemed may likely kill her in the process.

[steelers7thheaven]

@BadLuck765 Late term means the mother HAS to deliver the baby. No other way to do it. It has to come out by the only known methods of birth. So the doctor kills it on the way out. It's messy and evil and it is murder. No special tricks up our sleeves.

[BadLuck765]

@steelers7thheaven Why is delivering the baby and killing it any worse than not delivering the baby and killing it a month earlier? How is that different? Aren't they both equally murder if you believe abortion is murder?

[steelers7thheaven]

@BadLuck765 I never said it was different. It is both murder and evil no matter when the pregnancy is terminated.

[finbomartini]

@steelers7thheaven What about in the first months, when the baby is not much more than an appendage, an extremity of the mother? Just a collection of tissue with a seperate and undeveloped nervous system that has grown much as an extra finger. Isn't it the mother's right to remove something which isn't living, which is part of her, during this period? After that time period my view would change

[steelers7thheaven]

@finbomartini "mothers rights"? what happened to the babies rights. everything that human being will ever be is there the moment of conception, far from just an appendage. and not an extremity of the mother. It is already a unique being, that needs it's mother to survive. God created that human being, you choose to kill it? Good luck with that. There is only one person you have to answer to and it is not me.

[finbomartini]

@steelers7thheaven Yeah but that's called potential, potential doesn't give the baby rights over its mother, it's still her choice as long as it isn't conscious - and dude don't try to intimidate people with threats of eternal DAMNATION!!!! That's just lame

[steelers7thheaven]

@finbomartini If the baby has no rights over its mother than who does have any rights. If you annoy someone than to let you live is giving you rights over that other person. Strange way to reason out who should live or die. I did not threaten you with eternal damnation, I said do what you will, you don't answer to me.

[ooJesusIsMuslimoo]

please watch this video on youtube " Abortion Clinics Sell Your Dead Baby "

[wawawewaryan]

What have you americans done?

[andro89]

No, you want to ban late term abortion because over 80% of the population disagree with it, so don't pretend you care for the rights of unborn children.

[jjmcoates]

The bill did include an exception for medical conditions that threatened the life of the woman obviously that includes her health. What pro abortion activists like Barack Obama want to do, is say that for any health reason, even if it is not putting her life in jeopardy, abortion should be allowed until birth. its dishonest. Health can be defined so broadly that it would allowed for any reason. That is already the case today.

[xXLonesomeLyricsXx]

amen to that! killin babies after they're born. what kind of demented, twisted person can let that happen!?!?!?

[sweetbilly]

Obama's a gutless turd, a joke, the WORST president in the HISTORY of this country. George Bush was a saint compared to Josef Hussein Mengele, the baby butcher, here.

[xtrole]

health of the mother. lol give me a break! Health of the mother means just about any reason she has for the abortion by now.

[sueezee]

xt:Health of the mother means just about any reason she has for the abortion by now. Thats right! That called freedom, and if she cant have it, then we all deserve equal access to YOUR reproductive parts. Are you will to do that?

[xtrole]

What about an unborn child's reproductive parts. I mean a 8 week old male fetus has a visible penis. Should we really have the right to access and destroy their reproductive parts?

And the question is not about us having access to a pregnant woman's unborn child. It's about keeping doctors from having access to it if the intention is to kill the unborn child.

[sueezee]

xt: What about an unborn child's reproductive parts Anyone have a Tylonol?

xt:Should we really have the right to access and destroy their reproductive parts?

You mean, do YOU, or anyone else, have the have the right to protec fetal parts that arent yours?

xt: It's about keeping doctors from having access to it if the intention is to kill the unborn child Only if we can keep doctors away from doing what YOU want medically done to YOU. Sound fair?

[xtrole]

If you are saying that everyone should be able to control what happens to their reproductive parts then why does this exclude an unborn child's private parts?

Yes, Me and according to the latest gallop poll the majority of males and females in America want an unborn's reproductive parts to have legal protection. Our constitution states that all are created with the right to life. Why shouldn't this include the unborn?

In some cases the law should keep me from what i medically want done. YES

[sueezee]

xt:If you are saying that everyone should be able to control what happens to their reproductive parts then why does this exclude an unborn child's private parts? It dosent have the rights to that.

xt:according to the latest gallop poll the majority of males and females in America want an unborn's reproductive parts to have legal protection. I dont care if its 99%. Thats irrelevant. Its not up for vote.

[xtrole]

"It dosent have the rights to that."

You are absolutely right. In the USA a fetus does not currently have rights. I am saying that they SHOULD have rights.

"I dont care if its 99%. Thats irrelevant. Its not up for vote."

I don't see how it's irreverent. True, the supreme court legally decides this one but public opinion about abortion is an important thing to consider.

[sueezee]

xt:the supreme court legally decides this one but public opinion about abortion is an important thing to consider. Which Supreme Court judge based his vote on public opinion?

[xtrole]

I mispoke. It is important for us to consider when we discuss this issue. I have no knowledge of a judge directly using public opinion for his/her decision.

This started out with you asking if I should have the right to protect fetal parts that aren't mine. The point that I was making by using public opinion is that I, along with about half of Americans do want protection for fetal parts that are not ours.

[sueezee]

xt:The point that I was making by using public opinion is that I, along with about half of Americans do want protection for fetal parts that are not ours. And the other half dosent. You made NO "point".

[sueezee]

xt:constitution states that all are created with the right to life

NEVER in the history of this county has a fetus been included in that. if debating this issue, why dont you know these things? Its like me debating rocket science w/ NASA bigwigs. Id be laughed out of the place!

xt:Why shouldn't this include the unborn? Because they arent created enough to have rights. How would you give fetuses rights anyway? I know, I wont get an answer to that..I never do.

[xtrole]

"NEVER in the history of this county has a fetus been included in that."

Well there has never been a universal law in the USA about it but before Roe vs Wade there were many states that had it banned or heavily restricted.

"How would you give fetuses rights anyway?"

Well to give them rights you stop legalized abortions. That is the obvious way to give them rights. You have seriously never got an answer to that question before? It's not rocket science to figure that one out.

[sueezee]

xt:constitution states allcreated with the right to life

sue: NEVER in the history of this county has a fetus been included in that

xt:there has never been a universal law in the USA about it but before Roe

As the The Supreme Court says, the word "person," as described in the 14th Amendment's due process clause, guarantees life &liberty. The Constitution was written 1787,& the word "person" has held the same meaning EVER since.Ddi you know abortion was legal & advertized in the 1800's?

[sueezee]

sue:How would you give fetuses rights anyway?"

xt:to give them rights you stop legalized abortions. It's not rocket science

Yes, I think knowing rocket science might help. Number one, how can a fetus stop abortions? WE would have to do that FOR them, & that would be OUR decision & right, not the fetuses. Also if you COULD give the fetus the right to be born, you'd also have to give it the right not to be, and if we didnt, that again, would be OUR decision, not the fetuses.

[sueezee]

xt:In some cases the law should keep me from what i medically want done. YES Then you would have loved Hitler. regardless, I"m sure you're lying just to get your point across. God forbid, it would look rediculous if you said NO you didnt want them gov in your med decisions , when you want it in womens. I'm good at reading into things.

[xtrole]

I said in SOME cases. Assisted suicide/ euthanasia would be a case where I don't think the government should allow me to have it.

But it is important for me to say that anyone's medical situation outside of pregnancy is unrelated to this topic.

A medical decision I make for myself will not kill an unborn child. When an abortion is performed you kill a living human male/female.

P.S. I do not love Hitler. He was a killer of millions of innocent people. Abortion kills millions too though.

[sueezee]

xt:And the question is not about us having access to a pregnant woman's unborn child. It's about keeping doctors from having access to it if the intention is to kill the unborn child. Bull shit...whats the difference?

[xtrole]

Doctors should not have the legal ability to kill an unborn child living inside of a woman whether she wants it or not! An unborn child is the result of sex. he/she was meant to be created. Killing him/her is saying that his/her life has no value. I say that innocent humans should be valued no matter how long they have been alive.

[sueezee]

xt: An unborn child is the result of sex. he/she was meant to be created. In that case, it was possible meant to be aborted, too.

xt:Killing him/her is saying that his/her life has no value What value does it have? Take a new baby that no one knows about, & lay it in the desert. It dies. What was its value? There was none! Let someone find it & take care of it & love it...thats when it has value.

[xtrole]

"In that case, it was possible meant to be aborted, too. "

Well in that case a born baby whose parents get tired of it and kill it was meant to be killed. How far do you wanna go with this?

"Take a new baby that no one knows about, & lay it in the desert. It dies. What was its value? There was none!"

Are you seriously saying that a newborn baby who is unwanted has no value to his/her life? That, my friend is undebatably unconstitutional and defies even the average pro-choicers logic.

[sueezee]

xt:Well in that case a born baby whose parents get tired of it and kill it was meant to be killed. How far do you wanna go with this? Bingo..and all the frickin way! if an abortion  doc is "meant" to die, so is everyone else who dies, in ANY situation. OR, is the death of abortion docs the only one that is "meant" to be? LOL

[xtrole]

I have never said that an abortion doc is meant to die if the procedure is legal. If it was illegal then I would not oppose the death penalty for him because he would have committed a CRIME. Exactly what crime has a newborn baby or unborn child committed?

[sueezee]

xt:Are you seriously saying that a newborn baby who is unwanted has no value to his/her life? That, my friend is undebatably unconstitutional Unconstitutional? Where in the Constit. does it say we have value?

[xtrole]

It says we have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Obviously if you allow the legal killing a newborn baby you are taking away every one of those rights!

This is infanticide you are talking about!

[herabored1984]

I think that people should have children when they are really ready..there are some exceptions but the majority of children born as a result of an unplanned pregnancy are either in orphanages or mistreated by their parents..I almost was aborted and still I don't change my mind..I am glad my mom decided reasonably about having me and raising me in a loving family instead of fearing "god"

[furnitureskate]

Even unborn they are a human in gods eyes. I mean what if the baby that was aborted would have grown up to do something great for the world.

[sueezee]

furn: I mean what if the baby that was aborted would have grown up to do something great for the world. What if it would have been a mass murderer? Do you people ever use your heads?

[furnitureskate]

r u retarded?

[sueezee]

furniture:r u retarded? There is nothing I like more than a deep, intelligent prolife comment!

[furnitureskate]

no im not joking. do you have some sort of mental disability?

[nerdsmack]

Does Barack have tourettes? Man does he stutter when he talks

[furnitureskate]

lol

[thearmysredneck]

thats becouse he didnt have his teleprompter in front of him!!!!!!!

[sweetbilly]

Well Biden broke it with his big mouth ...like he does everything else.

[biaksangi2007]

How could any aggre with someone killing a baby you know that when an baby is only one day old it counts as a humen bean... and if you were a baby and you were in your mothers stomche would you want to be tested by strangers and you might even die because you are not suppouse to be out of your mothers belly until your ready!!! I DO NOT AGGRE WITH THIS!!

[rockstAr31595]

Oh wow, I love the people who agree with any type of abortion but think that late term abortion is barbaric. Are you fucking serious? At any stage of the pregnancy, it is a HUMAN BEING in the womb. Abortion is a horrible thing. How can you look at yourself in the mirror after knowing you killed your own child??

[neoconscottp]

Obama is against "water boarding" of prisoners at gitmo even though it probably saved many American lives in the long run. Yet, he is for late-term abortion? Lets see-we want criminalize a punishment technique against terrorists who want to blow up our country. On the other hand, we want to reward abortionists with tax payer dollars to stick a sharp instrument into an innocent baby's brain and suck the contents of the brain out . I guess terrorists are more important to Obama.

[jumeau1]

were you watching the same clip? he opposes partial birth abortion unless it puts the mother's life in danger. that's a big difference and a totally different situation to weigh out. don't twist things around.

[ITALIANNSTALLION]

FUCK THAT NIGGER, GO MCCAIN!

[LDZZ]

That IS a bad joke right? Or are you just a complete fucktard???

[poodlepink]

Legalizing hiring hitmen would do away with sloppy? We need to be able to hire a hitman, a professional who can do the job neat and clean and quickly dispose of the body. We don't want people trying to carry out these things themselves, they get messy and sometimes the people hurt themselves in the process. This is why we must legalize hiring a hitman. THIS IS THE REASONING FOR ABORTION!!! But you'd be in danger then wouldn't you. You wouldn't support this. But babies can't speak up can they?

[poodlepink]

Late-term abortion: Cause the woman (could loosely be called a mother) to go into labor and when the head of the baby presents, inject acid to dissolve its brain, then remove the newly deceased newborn from the 'mother' (NOT) and dispose of it. What kind of subhuman could think that's okay? This is not right to do. Women who feel they've become pregnant 'in error' should be counselled and cared for by friends, family, and health groups and organizations. But to murder the unborn baby?!

[dzzygirl]

Are you completely serious? Where do people get off saying the mothers health is at risk to go through the rest of the pregnancy. BULLCRAP! This is the biggest crap I jave heard so far!

[ldsvideos08]

Are you serious? Are you that ignorant? The mother's health being at risk is not uncommon. Ask any doctor or nurse.

[Zendrig]

Obviously, many McCainiacs have missed this statement because they still blame Obama for his support on partial abortion.

[borntokill]

Because the health hes talking about (noticed he slipped it in just before life) is very broad and includes 'mental health', which basically means that if a women feels bad/sad then she can get a legal late term abortion.  Basically defeating the purpose of the ban in the firt place

[LDZZ]

If you think "'bad/sad'" is all their is to mental health/mental illness then you are FAR more ignorant than you realize. BTW, it's mental health not "'mental health'". It is a real medical issue. I DON'T, think it (or anything really) justifies late term/partial birth abortion. I don't mean to piss you off but the marginalization of the mentally ill has to stop. If the stigma was erased then more people would get treatment for conditions that can have a HUGE impact on their parenting ability.

[borntokill]

1) The "mental health" loophole in question has no definition/standards of judgement behind it.. If a pregnant woman just feels icky that day, she can get an abortion for "health reasons". Bad/sad are acceptable reasons to get an abortion according to the law/obama.

2) The people who are marginalizing mental disorders are those who want to label any little instances of discomfort as a sickness...

[borntokill]

" You have fits of anger and violence? No youre not an ahole, you have bipolar. Your kids cant sit still and pay attention? Theyre not hyper or stupid, they have a learning disability. Lets get you guys all doped up and give you expensive unnecessary therapy sessions. That'll solve it...." Point being, theres far too much medicating and treatement for "mental health" issues, not the other way around.

[cbriggs2246]

yay Barack Obama. Your view is correct in my eyes. Late term abortion is wrong and sick as long as there's an exception for the mother's life and such