its not a colbalt... You could not do this with your colbalt.. Its a drag car with a colbalt grill.. The body isnt even from a colbalt.. God i hate representing
@sixty8panther I agree totally, looks lame as hell with the big tires in the front and some trollies in the back. I guess they don't have the wheelie problem though.
@OneEyeWonderWeasil you do realize that the Edge 540 not only goes faster than the GeeBee R2, but it is designed for areobatic racing as well as speed. There are other race planes out there which are faster, but its like comparing a drag racer to a formula one car. In their sport, you need to be able to turn as well as go fast.
@redghost105 Your an idiot .....the top speed is not 200 .......the trap speed at 1/4th of a mile is 199 MPH that means that 1400HP car is pushing 200 MPH at the end of a quarter of a mile you tardass and even if its max speed was 200MPH you gotta realize that car is only built for running quarter mile drag's not TOP SPEED runs so its gear ratio's are probably REALLY close to maximize torque so it can get going as fast as it possibly can by the end of the drag. Quit being a re-re
@redghost105 really depends on the acceleration curve. you would really need to know the speed per foot markers along the way to say for sure. As for your viper example, the Viper has great acceleration off the line, but above 160 ish it really slows down, which is why it topped out at 177, but still got a good time. I would guess that this car is designed similar in that it gets massive acceleration from 0-100 or so, but then quickly tps off leaving the top speed seemingly rather low.
do you clowns know anything about racing? lol that cobalt would beat the ever living crap out of a zr1 at the dragstrip.. what do zr1s run in the 1/4? high 10s if its lucky? this car runs 7s.. thats simple math gentlemen.
@monkay92 its to prevent weight transfer to the rear wheels. they look like wheelie bars but they aren't really, just extra insurance that the rear suspension doesn't squat.
i say fuck yall it dosen't matter the motor its the tans i have a 2000cc vw engine with a proches trans that would whip any think you put it up agaisnt except full blown dragsters and funny cars
You can get any modern day motor to go that fast, upgrade all of the internals and Forced air. Plus strip all of the smog equipment and accessories. Don't see what the wow factor is.
@trombonedemon yup nevermind the internal stresses of the components. you really have no idea what went into making this car not only powerful and fast but reliable (for a drag engine anyway). They would go the entire weekend on the same engine sometimes when other teams would be doing repairs or swaps after every run.
@ADOPTmeBITCH dedication is good man.. but be realistic. They were backed and fully sponsored by GM. They had an entire team of people who's only job was to make that car go fast, and the gardella family has been racing for many years.
dedication is good, but give credit where it is due. they had a few million dollars into this race team every season. I doubt any privateer could ever truly be competative at that level.
@redghost105 the class they raced in was FWD... it had to reflect the actual drivetrain of the car the body is based on. this was actually an outlaw FWD car.. the engine is mounted longitudenal instead of transverse.
Besides, you almost never see AWD cars retain AWD when they get into serious competitve drag racing, because AWD cars cannot heat up their slicks, also AWD components take a lot of valuable power from the engine. Most AWD cars in higher drag classes convert to RWD.
@chewser117 Well, i'm gonna say the only thing on that car thats stock would be the engine block, everything else is designed for that kind of power,...and i bet it has exploded before lol
@johnciv6 woooow I'm not ragging on it at all. i think it's sick. Makes me proud to be a cobalt owner haha. Between this and GM's Time Attack cobalt...the cobalt line really stands out from it's class. And It also shows the world that america can hold it's own against import performance.
@osamiax33o block is aluminum, so it was sleeved, sonny bryant crank and I'm unsure of the manufacture for the rods/pistons. the ecotec engines were known for being very reliable for their drag racing days, and a lot of extra rules were passed if you were running an ecotec engine in order to make it more fair to the competition. dry sump oil system, methanol fuel (e85 in some cases), 50-60psi of boost, 4 speed automatic trans, and some of the teams would run with no headgaskets.
@Chevyy91 Its a drag car. The gears are setup for 200MPH top speed so they can accelerate quicker. If they regeared it and had a different tranny, itd hit 230-240 I'd bet.
Ok everyone that has commented and said this is not a cobalt is stupid!!!!!!!! it clearly states ECOTEC on the vale cover at 31sec. you people must not watch much drag racing most of those cars run 6-7sec 1/4 miles at 200+ mph. this is a link to prove all you wrong 1,400whp on a 2.2 ecotec read it then SHUT THE FUCK UP and go back and jerk off.
lol thank you for that I had a N/A 91 Talon that I had runnin 14's with minimal money put into it. I'd put my car at around 160-170 hp when I was done with it. With the power they're getting out of engines these days, not much would surprise me.
Work on the talon- Plugs, Wires, Tires, K&N filter. removed the honey comb in the intake and took out the A/C and as much weight as I could. JUST that and I dropped a whole second off the time I got when I bought it
Ecotec has everything to do with a cobalt engine, and many other GM products. Take the Clutchmasters civic for example. Its your typical built over the top V-tec honda engine. Oh but that means it has nothing to do with honda... Make some sense, if the engine had nothing to do with a cobalt then why would it say ecotec on the valve cover? and why would it be in a Cobalt....
I have a Cobalt and a Mustang GT, Even my Mustang's stock engine can not hold more than 450hp until everything would start to break. You're going to make me believe that there is one single stock internal part or part period common to a Cobalt engine in this car? Besides the valve cover of course...... If so, I would modify my Cobalt rather than race my Mustang.....
Again you miss the entire point. Every engine in a drag car is built with aftermarket parts, but i still remains the same Design as its original state, with parts to handle the abuse. The head is still a GM Ecotech Designed head, the block is still a GM block, with added strength. And some of the parts that are on that cobalt are GM Performance parts, which any joe can buy.
Ok. I have a Cobalt and a Mustang a GT. I'll stop waisting cash on the Mustang and replace the 40% required engine parts and make it a hotrod. Are you fucking retarded? I do have a Cobalt..... This car has not much to do with Cobalts...
Google it, this is a 2.2 L engine that has been highly modified to put out 1400 HP. I believe there were a couple of stock parts left, but most everything was swapped to handle the power. Also, GM released a build guide for their Ecotec engines that could get you 600+ HP from these engines with some stock parts in it. You do have to replace parts, because the stock motor is only good to about 300 hp. I encourage research, and I'm not making this up.
@komputeruser Very true. When I worked for GM, I attended a seminar where they converted a stock Ecotec 2.2L to push 700bhp. Even stock they have bullet proof bottom ends....now control arm bushings....that's another story.
@yoyoappled A can a 2011 mustang with 412 HP for 36,000can. This is not much more tha a Cobalt SS Turbo. I buy 4cyls for economy. I buy v8s for high torque at low rpm...
@guyd37 blah blah mustang this mustang that, the new motor is a nice design i will give them that but the times STILL dont line up to the power claims soooooo its either A. over-rated..which we all know its at the crank...b..heavy as fuck..which we all know is true...c...shitty gearing..which we all know ford is capable of ;)
@yoyoappled There are 2 2011 5.0 Mustang on Youtube doing 10s. Actually, one is doing 9.97. Both run on stock motor. Upper intake, x-pipes, tuned and 4.10 gears. Over-rated? You know why they have shitty gearing? Because I do 29 mph on the highway with 3.27. With 4.10, I can shave a whole sec on 1/4. Remember, I also have a Cobalt.... It's nothing but a POS econobox.
@guyd37 haha we are talking about stock times here, not your thousands in upgrades, especially a rear end swap, lets compare stock because otherwise its just a contest of whos got the most money to put into their car
FUK that PLANES still RULE.....u have to worry about wind direction/speed and GUSTS, shear, RPM OIL PRESS./TEMP., ETC....its a lot harder for a PILOT!!!!.....
You're right; flying an aircraft is a lot harder to flying a car.
There's pitch and roll to take into account, wind speed variations, gusts; keeping track of airspeed and altitude - all at the same time as looking where you're flying.
Both are very difficult in very different ways. Agreed, flying aircraft is more difficult if you take roll and pitch into account but driving cars with power of that magnitude, you've got MUCH more yaw and accel/decel to deal with than in a plane. In cars, accel too hard, you'll oversteer into a wall. Brake too hard, you'll understeer into a wall. In aircraft, accel too hard, you'll be going faster than the 200kts limit at class D :P... Oh no, we're gonna die! lol. But again, planes are harder..
To me, once a car is nothing more than a bunch of tubing, a flimsy looking plastic shell over it and sticker lights..it should no longer be called whatever car it's supposed to represent.
True... acceleration v. steady speed makes little sense. But if you wanna look at specs, planes need so much less horsepower that it's pretty neat that they can go just as fast or better.
"apples to oranges." Ha ha you've been reading too many car magazines, they always use those terms. They know the difference in physics and that is why they did the race. Basically alot of people do pointless crap so get over it.
Ha ha yeah I know that Derrrrr! The car magazines are the ones who use that phrase the most. You think you are intelligent and it makes me laugh. There are alot of things that could grind your gears but this unimportant video shouldn't be one of them.
I read both. But at least I'm not the one who tries to cut down an unimportant stunt like this one just to try to make myself feel smart. It's a stupid stunt and Mr. Apples to oranges just HAS to point out the obvious. WOW so smart.... NOT!
stock internals? turbo? I know an s2000 makes 240HP to the crank stock right out of the factory. but make 700 RWHP it has to have some mods cannot just be bone stock out of the factory making 700 RWHP
Haha.. My cousin has a cobalt ss/sc and they interior is very nice proly the only car that comes from factor looking like that, but if ms3 wants to race a vette for him to race. Its a zo6 that push's between 500 to 600 hp or do you wanna race a honda s2000 with 7000 whp on a bone stock motor. If you yall wanna see the s2000 just hit me up and i will send yall a link for it.
"The matter of fact is, this car isnt a cobalt, its a cage with a cobalt esque body on it and it doesnt even feature the "ecotec" motor. "
Actually it is ecotec powered do some research, thats what makes it a cobalt not just the body, it races in this class because it is truely ecotec powered
ohhh hell of a crab, thatts so stupid, man i the car, take a race wiht a turbine legend or a glasair III with a jet engine, thats more real. And tou will LOSE HAHA... airplanes is, and will allways be the fastest in the world, understand it car poeple:P
wow there are some haters in here!! all you v8 guys with ur insecure problems thinkin a 4cyl isnt a real car stfu...1400hp running 7's is still 1400hp running 7's no matter if its 4 or 8cyl. and being a cobalt owner you can say w.e. u like about the car but iv walked ur lil mustang gts w.o havein g the supercharger just all motorwork so stop hateing and actuly build a car we can respect and not rely on the beefy gas hog of a motor that came off the show room floor
No wonder there are haters, WHY ??? would you buy a cobalt. There is a market FULL of much better built, better performing cars, which at best cost a few grand more, you are paying for a car for atleast 4 years, why cheap out for a few grand, and to be honest thats the ONLY reason to buy a cobalt is because its cheaper. The matter of fact is, this car isnt a cobalt, its a cage with a cobalt esque body on it and it doesnt even feature the "ecotec" motor.
The Cobalt SS is one of the best buys available right now. Check out C&Ds Lightning Lap 2008. It outperformed the new STi, Evo X MR, Lexus' new IS-F, new S2000, Challenger SRT8, 135i, Mazdaspeed 3, new SRT4, and Elise SC. It came in right behind a C63 AMG..
So.. Name a car that will beat its numbers for low $20k. Even $30,000 for that matter.
So what, do you think I care when the motor isnt going to last 2 years, of abuse. Lets put it this way bud, the LD9 was famous for spontaneously blowing up at a measely 150hp, if you think GM can build (well sorry they didnt build the ecotec series, internationally engineered) an engine that is smaller and produce much more power to last then you have a few cylinders that arent firing.
C&D and the January 2009 issue put the Cobat in 3rd place in best overall car, and was actually slower than the mazdaspeed3, which got first place by the way.
They didn't use the no lift shift feature because it wasnt fair to the rest of the other cars....they did it to put the MS3 on top based on crappy reviews of interior which i don't know why counts for so much of the car's overall rating....it doesn't matter who's interior is better when im blowing your doors off!
Actually it does feature the ecotec motor look it up...its a 2.2 stock block with some forged steel sleves......and dont even say its not cuz an ecotec block is still an ecotec block just like a 350 built motor is still a 350....just cuz you put some different parts in it doesn't make it any less a hemi, or an ecotec or a 350 or whatever.
Alex your a fag all you do is go around and brag about your MS3 in every cobalt ss thread....why....cuz your insecure you think you have to convince everyone that your car is better because it has better interior it still looks like ass compared to the cobalt....and for the record C&D didnt use the no lift shift in the comparison tests because if they had the cobalt would have been quicker.....so try again you cheep shotting prick.
I guess since the interior matter so little, than GM is not going bankrupt, right? The fact is, you cant just make a nice car in an engine, and than make a body that sucks, and an interior that looks as cheap as the base cobalt. I'm on posting on all videos bud, not just the Cobalt SS videos. My speed3 is actually in alot of these videos anyway. On a side not, the DSG is off when C&D reviews the speed3, its all fair bud, just admit it, magazine like the speed3 overall over the Cobalt SS.
Ok for one the interior of the ss is no where near as cheap as a base line model granted about the only parts of the interior that DO look cheap is some of the silver painted parts. thats it. The seats look way better then the MS3's. And i don't really care what the magazine has to say because they didn't look at all the facts in the right light...they didnt look at the performance features of all the cars which make a lot bigger difference in the cars overall features
the seats are way better than the speed3?? are you for real man? even your own SS people on the forums are complaining about the crappy seats. And every review of these cars has claimed that the mazdaspeed3 has the best seats for track days. I didn't say the cobalt ss interior is the base cobalt interior, I said the Cobalt SS interior SHOULD be the base cobalt interior and than work there way up to the cobalt SS. The car is cheap man, admit it. Your own SS boys admit it, you should too.
Lol no they are not and no one on my page has said the seats look cheap. they don't feel cheap and they even have strap supports which...cheap seats don't have. Yeah i will admit the older style seats werent that comfortable and were rather cheap but not mine. They are way different from the older SS models. Way more comfortable, better looking and nice n stiff on the sides where you need support for tight cornering.
And the other thing you gotta realize is that my car is made in america not japan. The simple fact is that you cant get preimium parts when you are paying premium price without jacking prices way up. So chevy had to cut a few corners to keep the price within reason. Ill admit that right now. But the fact is all your interior came from overseas where labor prices can be kept extremely low to produce a premium product where as mine are made here where labor is expensive
So unless they wanted 30K for this car just so they could put in some better grade plastic and some better seats (which i don't have any issues with the comfort or styling of them in any way). The MS3's seats look bland as hell where as mine reflect the color of the car and add to its overall Style. So you have to look at it this way the cheap plastic makes it affordable and keeps it in the same range as your car. They had to do something to stay competitive with jap crap.
jap crap? dude, don't even tell me you think your cobalt is some great amarican car, I would take the vette and ford GT as great american car rather than a crappy balt. Have you seen the seats in the mazdaspeed3? Seriously, how can you say they look bland when they are made by the same guy that makes racing seats and has leather in it. The GTO had blue/red seats to match the car, you think that looked good? LOL, get a life
Never said it was a GREAT american car...but simply more american then yours.....and yes..your seats are bland and bulky looking.....they look like a bunch of blocks of foam were sewn together to form a seat. And what exactly would you call the seats in the cobalt? standard buckets? Dude my seats sport more race style then yours. Do your seats have support straps for the tilt feature so you dont put to much stress on the mechanism when your going 150? Probably not
I've hit 150 mph in my speed3, and I think seat support is the last thing I was thinking about at those speeds, I was more concerned with makeing sure I make that c6 vette look retarded. The speed3 have lumbar support, and angle cushion support. Maybe you should seriously take a look at the speed3 seats, I really don't know what you are talking about? It even has support for your balls if you had any.
Lol ok well yeah you go ahead and pull 150 and when your seat breaks and you plow into another car or a wall ill be laughing and yeah my car has lumbar and angle cuions and all that crap too plus mine LOOK BETTER! and yes ive looked at your crappy seats like i said......blocks of foam sewn together with some cloth thrown over them and i highly doubt your POS MS3 made a c6 look retarded. You probably looked retarded trying to race him.
Yeah id rather have black and red interior as opposed to a bright red car with gray cloth and some same gray inserts. And dude i wouldn't be talking about styling much since the MS3 just looks like dirt. Its one of thoes cars that people dont even give a second look to unless they are looking to see if it is just a M3 or a MS3 but most people wouldnt even care.
I meant dsc, not dsg. Ford has seemed to step up there quality and overall value of there cars, why can't GM? There new mustang and Taures is a big step up from what they were, and they are priced very competitive.
Thats simply because americans ARENT engineering half of the decent "domestic" cars today. Ford is clearly using alot of their R&D from their UK counterparts, which has been from the publics pov a very reliable and trust worthy brand.
And the ms3 doesn't come option with DSG that was the GTI that it comes option with as well as the STI's ability to change its power ratio between the front and rear tires....so you leave out vital performance bits you take away from the overall beauty of the car. Thats why the C&D review cant be taken as seriously as you see it. They reviewed only specific parts of the vehicles not all of them. Had they done in depth reviews of them all and all performance features it WOULD be different.
So what you really mean when YOU say "rice" is a car with just a loud exhaust, fat-daddy chrome tip, ugly body kit, a strictly cosmetic rear wing, and no actual performance parts right? If so then good.
Re-read the 2nd to last sentence of my post... I know what is inferred by all manners of Rice-speak.
Wolfattack, you know not of what you speak. The term "RICE" was originally applied to motorcycles from JAPAN, now applied to any vehicle from said country. Originally, it was "RICEBURNER" because RICE is a large part of traditional Japanese diet. So to applying the term RICE should be saying the car is Japanese in origin. Just because people have loud mufflers on their Neons doesn't make it less stupid to call them RICE. Rice is a good thing, no matter what your mom says...
@isntthisacrapysn: A RB20DET 240SX might beat an older 5.0 Mustang{pre-1987}, but not a modern Mustang. Trust me, 200 hp wouldn't do it. But the 300 hp RB26 GT-R would make an example of both. Too bad one of the coolest Japanese sports cars ever made isn't sold in the U.S.
because they all sound the same, a modded 206, civic, cobalt, puma, whatever, they still share the same traits, buzzy little 4-6 cylinders with whiny turbos. dumb american thing ano
Slight weight difference. You are correct about the Red Bull series, it is fantastic. I have 300+ hours in the Extra 300L and it's like a glove. I also have 200 hours in a P-51D which is like a Led Zeppelin concert. 1 is quick (which hurts this old body) 1 is fast (which is healing) both are almost too much fun. peace
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WeAretheUnderground1 1 week ago
Is it 1400hp?
bgomusicco 1 month ago
its not a colbalt... You could not do this with your colbalt.. Its a drag car with a colbalt grill.. The body isnt even from a colbalt.. God i hate representing
fattymcfatfatism 3 months ago
whats with the 5000 camer angles.. way to destroy the moment mr editor
abus777 5 months ago 3
Cool video. I'm a hardcore GM guy but strongly dislike FWD.
FWD drag racing is lame, not as lame as a FWD Impala SS
but pretty close. Send the power to the rear wheels like God
intended and physics dictates to be logical.
sixty8panther 5 months ago
@sixty8panther I agree totally, looks lame as hell with the big tires in the front and some trollies in the back. I guess they don't have the wheelie problem though.
55chh 1 month ago
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sixty8panther 5 months ago
What kind of work was done to that ecotec and how much boost?
Naturalhit 6 months ago
who the fuck won?
dankbud 9 months ago
And people say you have to have a V8 to get Hp. bullshit go buy a cobalt :)
35RSkyline 9 months ago
...the edge 540 is a sad excuse for a racing plane, google GeeBee R2...now that's a racing plane.
OneEyeWonderWeasil 9 months ago
@OneEyeWonderWeasil you do realize that the Edge 540 not only goes faster than the GeeBee R2, but it is designed for areobatic racing as well as speed. There are other race planes out there which are faster, but its like comparing a drag racer to a formula one car. In their sport, you need to be able to turn as well as go fast.
Trueflights 8 months ago
i want to see that car pull a 9 g turn
yellowcub86 10 months ago
1400 horsepower and top speed of only 200 mph? thats shit! that shows you how awful front wheel drive is
redghost105 1 year ago
@redghost105 Your an idiot .....the top speed is not 200 .......the trap speed at 1/4th of a mile is 199 MPH that means that 1400HP car is pushing 200 MPH at the end of a quarter of a mile you tardass and even if its max speed was 200MPH you gotta realize that car is only built for running quarter mile drag's not TOP SPEED runs so its gear ratio's are probably REALLY close to maximize torque so it can get going as fast as it possibly can by the end of the drag. Quit being a re-re
Raverrabbit1 10 months ago 6
@Raverrabbit1 I didnt mean the top speed tardass, the top speed in the 1/4 mile
redghost105 10 months ago
@Raverrabbit1 it's you're an idiot no your an idiot genius
nick1177 2 months ago
@redghost105 you're a dumbass dude. It's made for drag racing only. They didn't make it for top speed.
YellowBoltTC 9 months ago
@YellowBoltTC no shit its made for drag, im saying 1400 horsepower with a top speed of 200 mph in the 1/4 is very slow
redghost105 9 months ago
@redghost105 cause they only have a 1/4 mile track to get to 200 miles an hour
YellowBoltTC 8 months ago
@YellowBoltTC one thing I didnt think about a few months ago is, 7.67 not only is near the world record
but if the video is saying his top speed was 200 mph in the 1/4, theres no way his time was 7.67
a previous record from a 2000 horsepower viper got up to 177 in the 1/4 and had a time of 7.99
if this was going 200+ then the time would be lower than 7.67
redghost105 8 months ago
@redghost105 really depends on the acceleration curve. you would really need to know the speed per foot markers along the way to say for sure. As for your viper example, the Viper has great acceleration off the line, but above 160 ish it really slows down, which is why it topped out at 177, but still got a good time. I would guess that this car is designed similar in that it gets massive acceleration from 0-100 or so, but then quickly tps off leaving the top speed seemingly rather low.
Trueflights 8 months ago
do you clowns know anything about racing? lol that cobalt would beat the ever living crap out of a zr1 at the dragstrip.. what do zr1s run in the 1/4? high 10s if its lucky? this car runs 7s.. thats simple math gentlemen.
DaFlyinSkwirl 1 year ago
its funny, cause they raced the 600hp vette against a jet, this FWD goofus is racing a prop plane lol
ADD8oi 1 year ago
AHAHAHA
front wheel drive???!?
whats the wheelie bar for man?
monkay92 1 year ago
@monkay92 its to prevent weight transfer to the rear wheels. they look like wheelie bars but they aren't really, just extra insurance that the rear suspension doesn't squat.
DaFlyinSkwirl 1 year ago
they should try that again but on a plane runway and see who wins
juke513 1 year ago
o-60in.... 2 seconds im guessing?
kukster22 1 year ago
i say fuck yall it dosen't matter the motor its the tans i have a 2000cc vw engine with a proches trans that would whip any think you put it up agaisnt except full blown dragsters and funny cars
dodgechargercrazy 1 year ago
haha he said it's a full built race car yet it's still fwd....
wtf
aussy21 1 year ago
You can get any modern day motor to go that fast, upgrade all of the internals and Forced air. Plus strip all of the smog equipment and accessories. Don't see what the wow factor is.
trombonedemon 1 year ago
@trombonedemon yup nevermind the internal stresses of the components. you really have no idea what went into making this car not only powerful and fast but reliable (for a drag engine anyway). They would go the entire weekend on the same engine sometimes when other teams would be doing repairs or swaps after every run.
DaFlyinSkwirl 1 year ago
if i had money i'd blow these guys out of their little ponds cause no one has my dedication
ADOPTmeBITCH 1 year ago
@ADOPTmeBITCH dedication is good man.. but be realistic. They were backed and fully sponsored by GM. They had an entire team of people who's only job was to make that car go fast, and the gardella family has been racing for many years.
dedication is good, but give credit where it is due. they had a few million dollars into this race team every season. I doubt any privateer could ever truly be competative at that level.
DaFlyinSkwirl 1 year ago
front wheel drive wtf?
just go ahead and make it awd
redghost105 1 year ago
@redghost105 the class they raced in was FWD... it had to reflect the actual drivetrain of the car the body is based on. this was actually an outlaw FWD car.. the engine is mounted longitudenal instead of transverse.
Besides, you almost never see AWD cars retain AWD when they get into serious competitve drag racing, because AWD cars cannot heat up their slicks, also AWD components take a lot of valuable power from the engine. Most AWD cars in higher drag classes convert to RWD.
DaFlyinSkwirl 1 year ago
better then a import
bbombz 1 year ago
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meamatom 1 year ago
How the fuck do you get 1400hp from a 4 cyl? That is awesome!
chewser117 1 year ago
@chewser117 Look how fucking huge the turbo is....
osamiax33o 1 year ago
@osamiax33o Trust me I didn't overlook the turbo the size of god's hand... but you would think the engine would explode with a turbo that big.
chewser117 1 year ago
@chewser117 Well, i'm gonna say the only thing on that car thats stock would be the engine block, everything else is designed for that kind of power,...and i bet it has exploded before lol
osamiax33o 1 year ago
@osamiax33o
Same for every other dragster like that. It's a 4cyl FWD. Give it some props.
johnciv6 1 year ago
@johnciv6 woooow I'm not ragging on it at all. i think it's sick. Makes me proud to be a cobalt owner haha. Between this and GM's Time Attack cobalt...the cobalt line really stands out from it's class. And It also shows the world that america can hold it's own against import performance.
osamiax33o 1 year ago
@osamiax33o block is aluminum, so it was sleeved, sonny bryant crank and I'm unsure of the manufacture for the rods/pistons. the ecotec engines were known for being very reliable for their drag racing days, and a lot of extra rules were passed if you were running an ecotec engine in order to make it more fair to the competition. dry sump oil system, methanol fuel (e85 in some cases), 50-60psi of boost, 4 speed automatic trans, and some of the teams would run with no headgaskets.
DaFlyinSkwirl 1 year ago
@chewser117 with a 96mm or bigger turbo! at around 25-30psi!
Camaros5678 1 year ago
looks so funny with HUGe front tires and small back tires
XxAtomic646xX 1 year ago
1400hp= 200mph top speed?? something not adding up there
Chevyy91 1 year ago
@Chevyy91 Its a drag car. The gears are setup for 200MPH top speed so they can accelerate quicker. If they regeared it and had a different tranny, itd hit 230-240 I'd bet.
americansmark 1 year ago
@Chevyy91 i agree with you, a zr1 with 638hp can top 200mph... but 1400hp wont? lol
Camaros5678 1 year ago
@Camaros5678 uhhh... It's called GEARING...
DiEGO2DaBAY 1 year ago
@DiEGO2DaBAY haha yea but even with good drag gears like 4:56 it wont do 200? lol
Camaros5678 1 year ago
@Camaros5678 this car did hit over 200mph later in the 2009 season, was the first FWD drag car to do it
DaFlyinSkwirl 1 year ago
how much horsepower does that car have?
k2wings 1 year ago
wtf dude
HaraldStok 1 year ago
Hey 60% + 40% = 100%
Math. IT MAKES SENSE!!!!!!
ac66bronco 1 year ago
LOL
ST165SLEEPER 1 year ago
wath my videos just type junker1223
junker1223 1 year ago
I need some of those stickers maybe my cobalt can go fast
allgoodcustoms 2 years ago
Where is the cobalt?
weed46 2 years ago
I think the drag car ate it!
and2244rew 2 years ago
thats what i was wondering
SrtRacerBoy 2 years ago
wow, that cobalt engine cover is really fast
addav79 2 years ago
Ok everyone that has commented and said this is not a cobalt is stupid!!!!!!!! it clearly states ECOTEC on the vale cover at 31sec. you people must not watch much drag racing most of those cars run 6-7sec 1/4 miles at 200+ mph. this is a link to prove all you wrong 1,400whp on a 2.2 ecotec read it then SHUT THE FUCK UP and go back and jerk off.
blackgixxer600 2 years ago
lol thank you for that I had a N/A 91 Talon that I had runnin 14's with minimal money put into it. I'd put my car at around 160-170 hp when I was done with it. With the power they're getting out of engines these days, not much would surprise me.
Work on the talon- Plugs, Wires, Tires, K&N filter. removed the honey comb in the intake and took out the A/C and as much weight as I could. JUST that and I dropped a whole second off the time I got when I bought it
frankintosh0420 2 years ago
The only Cobalt part in this engine is the valve cover....
guyd37 2 years ago
200MPH my ass
PeterSmuczak 2 years ago
cobalt my ass
7angofragger 2 years ago
Nothing on that car is froma Colbalt. lol
vonhanson 2 years ago 2
2.2 ecotec is the engine there using, which comes standard with base cobalts.
NorseValkyrie 2 years ago
No.... I have a Cobalt 2.2...... Trust me, this has nothing to do with a Cobalt engine...
guyd37 2 years ago
Ecotec has everything to do with a cobalt engine, and many other GM products. Take the Clutchmasters civic for example. Its your typical built over the top V-tec honda engine. Oh but that means it has nothing to do with honda... Make some sense, if the engine had nothing to do with a cobalt then why would it say ecotec on the valve cover? and why would it be in a Cobalt....
EBNReviewsGen1 2 years ago 11
I have a Cobalt and a Mustang GT, Even my Mustang's stock engine can not hold more than 450hp until everything would start to break. You're going to make me believe that there is one single stock internal part or part period common to a Cobalt engine in this car? Besides the valve cover of course...... If so, I would modify my Cobalt rather than race my Mustang.....
guyd37 2 years ago
Again you miss the entire point. Every engine in a drag car is built with aftermarket parts, but i still remains the same Design as its original state, with parts to handle the abuse. The head is still a GM Ecotech Designed head, the block is still a GM block, with added strength. And some of the parts that are on that cobalt are GM Performance parts, which any joe can buy.
EBNReviewsGen1 2 years ago
Actually 60% of it is stock ..
Ryance85 1 year ago
Ok. I have a Cobalt and a Mustang a GT. I'll stop waisting cash on the Mustang and replace the 40% required engine parts and make it a hotrod. Are you fucking retarded? I do have a Cobalt..... This car has not much to do with Cobalts...
guyd37 1 year ago
@guyd37 however I have seen a my Cobalt ls turbo can beat mustang GTs :D
SHTFzombies 1 year ago
@SHTFzombies Only a bone stock GT.
guyd37 1 year ago
@guyd37
Google it, this is a 2.2 L engine that has been highly modified to put out 1400 HP. I believe there were a couple of stock parts left, but most everything was swapped to handle the power. Also, GM released a build guide for their Ecotec engines that could get you 600+ HP from these engines with some stock parts in it. You do have to replace parts, because the stock motor is only good to about 300 hp. I encourage research, and I'm not making this up.
komputeruser 2 years ago
@komputeruser Very true. When I worked for GM, I attended a seminar where they converted a stock Ecotec 2.2L to push 700bhp. Even stock they have bullet proof bottom ends....now control arm bushings....that's another story.
B4its2L8guy 1 year ago
@guyd37 exactlyyyy , you have the shit motor, try the 2.0 ss motor (its better) haaa
yoyoappled 1 year ago
@yoyoappled A can a 2011 mustang with 412 HP for 36,000can. This is not much more tha a Cobalt SS Turbo. I buy 4cyls for economy. I buy v8s for high torque at low rpm...
guyd37 1 year ago
@guyd37 blah blah mustang this mustang that, the new motor is a nice design i will give them that but the times STILL dont line up to the power claims soooooo its either A. over-rated..which we all know its at the crank...b..heavy as fuck..which we all know is true...c...shitty gearing..which we all know ford is capable of ;)
yoyoappled 1 year ago
@yoyoappled There are 2 2011 5.0 Mustang on Youtube doing 10s. Actually, one is doing 9.97. Both run on stock motor. Upper intake, x-pipes, tuned and 4.10 gears. Over-rated? You know why they have shitty gearing? Because I do 29 mph on the highway with 3.27. With 4.10, I can shave a whole sec on 1/4. Remember, I also have a Cobalt.... It's nothing but a POS econobox.
guyd37 1 year ago
@guyd37 haha we are talking about stock times here, not your thousands in upgrades, especially a rear end swap, lets compare stock because otherwise its just a contest of whos got the most money to put into their car
yoyoappled 1 year ago
uhh..the motor..a.k.a the heart.
dolphinz00 2 years ago
umm the engine is,
you can buy everything you need, strait from gm to make 1400hp in a ecotec.
pdgeman 2 years ago 3
the headlights are =P
thecashier 2 years ago
HAHAHA COLBALT MY ASS
rickg156 2 years ago
It's actually a cobalt.. Just Crazy..
RedsMarlboro 2 years ago 2
id take the edge 540 over that cobalt any day!!
superchase08 2 years ago
flying planes= easy
driving a car= easy
throw in a crosswind correction with some high speed maneuvers pushing 9 g factor loads..... psshh.... sorry car... you just got owned. AOPA rules.
jwigiMT 2 years ago
FUK that PLANES still RULE.....u have to worry about wind direction/speed and GUSTS, shear, RPM OIL PRESS./TEMP., ETC....its a lot harder for a PILOT!!!!.....
futurepilot2394 2 years ago 4
You're right; flying an aircraft is a lot harder to flying a car.
There's pitch and roll to take into account, wind speed variations, gusts; keeping track of airspeed and altitude - all at the same time as looking where you're flying.
In a car, it's simple to just slam on the breaks.
mrrmancunian 2 years ago
flying a car?
ArsenalFabregasSpain 2 years ago 18
Both are very difficult in very different ways. Agreed, flying aircraft is more difficult if you take roll and pitch into account but driving cars with power of that magnitude, you've got MUCH more yaw and accel/decel to deal with than in a plane. In cars, accel too hard, you'll oversteer into a wall. Brake too hard, you'll understeer into a wall. In aircraft, accel too hard, you'll be going faster than the 200kts limit at class D :P... Oh no, we're gonna die! lol. But again, planes are harder..
d3boy2002 2 years ago
Much harder to deal with if we're talking precision, mental toughness, and basically doing anything at all :P.
d3boy2002 2 years ago
I thinks its funny that it takes 1400 hp to make a car match what a 300 hp airplane can do. That friction is a bitch aint it?
bpbat21 2 years ago 3
they said horsepower like a trillion times
bridgeportedrotary 2 years ago 4
I know which one I'd rather have...
wilmracer 2 years ago
lol top fuel dragster have about 8000hp.
lazyman306 2 years ago
It's not apples and oranges; it's tires and propellers.
It doesn't mean anything and it doesn't prove anything, and that's cool with me.
It's a Red Bull gimmick, and nothing more.
Enjoy it, or leave it alone.
bkkghy 2 years ago
To me, once a car is nothing more than a bunch of tubing, a flimsy looking plastic shell over it and sticker lights..it should no longer be called whatever car it's supposed to represent.
KaraniKun 2 years ago
He woul have lost against a Suzuki Hayabusa
417 Km/h tuned version
AndreDuesentrieb 2 years ago
i don't think he can call it a cobalt, unless it looks like a cobalt
kickerpunter 2 years ago
it's a highly tuned cobalt engine is all... nothing else is cobalt
ilikebeer 2 years ago
Still crazy to see what they did with a 2l engine
Weazell 2 years ago
Front wheel drive drag racing??? I wonder how common that is.
randommagnum 2 years ago
can the chevy pull 10Gs or more? hehehe
arthurpansera 2 years ago
What kind of dumb ass race was that? It was a 3 minute chevy commercial..
BrassAxe 2 years ago
This is for morons who don't have a clue about physics. Talk about comparing apple to oranges WTF!
carlisle9414 2 years ago 3
True... acceleration v. steady speed makes little sense. But if you wanna look at specs, planes need so much less horsepower that it's pretty neat that they can go just as fast or better.
Rexpilot0990 2 years ago
"apples to oranges." Ha ha you've been reading too many car magazines, they always use those terms. They know the difference in physics and that is why they did the race. Basically alot of people do pointless crap so get over it.
GranFury440 2 years ago
The phrase "apples to oranges" has been used long before car magazines or even cars for that matter. Get over yourself dumbass!
carlisle9414 2 years ago
Ha ha yeah I know that Derrrrr! The car magazines are the ones who use that phrase the most. You think you are intelligent and it makes me laugh. There are alot of things that could grind your gears but this unimportant video shouldn't be one of them.
GranFury440 2 years ago
Well then I guess it's obvious that you are the one reading too many car magazines. Try reading some books instead.
carlisle9414 2 years ago
I read both. But at least I'm not the one who tries to cut down an unimportant stunt like this one just to try to make myself feel smart. It's a stupid stunt and Mr. Apples to oranges just HAS to point out the obvious. WOW so smart.... NOT!
GranFury440 2 years ago
ill take the plane k thx
r0cd0x 2 years ago 2
My bad i meant 700hp on a bone stock motor!
redneckboy58 2 years ago
stock internals? turbo? I know an s2000 makes 240HP to the crank stock right out of the factory. but make 700 RWHP it has to have some mods cannot just be bone stock out of the factory making 700 RWHP
Coixxman 2 years ago
Only vehicle I know of that can make that power on stock internals is the 03/04 Cobra
94gtvert 2 years ago
the 2Jz from the supra can also do it on stock minternals
Coixxman 2 years ago
Haha.. My cousin has a cobalt ss/sc and they interior is very nice proly the only car that comes from factor looking like that, but if ms3 wants to race a vette for him to race. Its a zo6 that push's between 500 to 600 hp or do you wanna race a honda s2000 with 7000 whp on a bone stock motor. If you yall wanna see the s2000 just hit me up and i will send yall a link for it.
redneckboy58 2 years ago
700 or 7000
Coixxman 2 years ago
Its actually a 701whp s2000
redneckboy58 2 years ago
Front wheel drive. How WANK is that!
baboon69pashley 2 years ago 12
honda s2000's are REAR wheel drive 4 cylinder cars.
xXmoviemakerXx 2 years ago
@baboon69pashley It's not.
pdgeman 1 year ago
plane
DanTheCaptain 2 years ago 2
Anyone know if this was in englishtown, nj? At the old bridge airport?
Obelix6 2 years ago
"The matter of fact is, this car isnt a cobalt, its a cage with a cobalt esque body on it and it doesnt even feature the "ecotec" motor. "
Actually it is ecotec powered do some research, thats what makes it a cobalt not just the body, it races in this class because it is truely ecotec powered
tripplenipplekid 2 years ago
Is that a front wheel drive drag racer?????????
Never seen one before.
blork5 3 years ago
Dee in his Mazdaspeed3 is running high 6's also a 4 cylander and running well over 1400 hp.
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BronzeDogg 3 years ago
ohhh hell of a crab, thatts so stupid, man i the car, take a race wiht a turbine legend or a glasair III with a jet engine, thats more real. And tou will LOSE HAHA... airplanes is, and will allways be the fastest in the world, understand it car poeple:P
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blockdotjn 3 years ago
wow there are some haters in here!! all you v8 guys with ur insecure problems thinkin a 4cyl isnt a real car stfu...1400hp running 7's is still 1400hp running 7's no matter if its 4 or 8cyl. and being a cobalt owner you can say w.e. u like about the car but iv walked ur lil mustang gts w.o havein g the supercharger just all motorwork so stop hateing and actuly build a car we can respect and not rely on the beefy gas hog of a motor that came off the show room floor
cobaltgofast 3 years ago 3
No wonder there are haters, WHY ??? would you buy a cobalt. There is a market FULL of much better built, better performing cars, which at best cost a few grand more, you are paying for a car for atleast 4 years, why cheap out for a few grand, and to be honest thats the ONLY reason to buy a cobalt is because its cheaper. The matter of fact is, this car isnt a cobalt, its a cage with a cobalt esque body on it and it doesnt even feature the "ecotec" motor.
Mikew995 3 years ago
Nope. Wrong.
The Cobalt SS is one of the best buys available right now. Check out C&Ds Lightning Lap 2008. It outperformed the new STi, Evo X MR, Lexus' new IS-F, new S2000, Challenger SRT8, 135i, Mazdaspeed 3, new SRT4, and Elise SC. It came in right behind a C63 AMG..
So.. Name a car that will beat its numbers for low $20k. Even $30,000 for that matter.
06jds377 3 years ago
So what, do you think I care when the motor isnt going to last 2 years, of abuse. Lets put it this way bud, the LD9 was famous for spontaneously blowing up at a measely 150hp, if you think GM can build (well sorry they didnt build the ecotec series, internationally engineered) an engine that is smaller and produce much more power to last then you have a few cylinders that arent firing.
Mikew995 3 years ago
C&D and the January 2009 issue put the Cobat in 3rd place in best overall car, and was actually slower than the mazdaspeed3, which got first place by the way.
Alexsered 3 years ago
They didn't use the no lift shift feature because it wasnt fair to the rest of the other cars....they did it to put the MS3 on top based on crappy reviews of interior which i don't know why counts for so much of the car's overall rating....it doesn't matter who's interior is better when im blowing your doors off!
Raverrabbit1 2 years ago
Actually it does feature the ecotec motor look it up...its a 2.2 stock block with some forged steel sleves......and dont even say its not cuz an ecotec block is still an ecotec block just like a 350 built motor is still a 350....just cuz you put some different parts in it doesn't make it any less a hemi, or an ecotec or a 350 or whatever.
Raverrabbit1 2 years ago
Alex your a fag all you do is go around and brag about your MS3 in every cobalt ss thread....why....cuz your insecure you think you have to convince everyone that your car is better because it has better interior it still looks like ass compared to the cobalt....and for the record C&D didnt use the no lift shift in the comparison tests because if they had the cobalt would have been quicker.....so try again you cheep shotting prick.
Raverrabbit1 2 years ago
I guess since the interior matter so little, than GM is not going bankrupt, right? The fact is, you cant just make a nice car in an engine, and than make a body that sucks, and an interior that looks as cheap as the base cobalt. I'm on posting on all videos bud, not just the Cobalt SS videos. My speed3 is actually in alot of these videos anyway. On a side not, the DSG is off when C&D reviews the speed3, its all fair bud, just admit it, magazine like the speed3 overall over the Cobalt SS.
Alexsered 2 years ago
Ok for one the interior of the ss is no where near as cheap as a base line model granted about the only parts of the interior that DO look cheap is some of the silver painted parts. thats it. The seats look way better then the MS3's. And i don't really care what the magazine has to say because they didn't look at all the facts in the right light...they didnt look at the performance features of all the cars which make a lot bigger difference in the cars overall features
Raverrabbit1 2 years ago
the seats are way better than the speed3?? are you for real man? even your own SS people on the forums are complaining about the crappy seats. And every review of these cars has claimed that the mazdaspeed3 has the best seats for track days. I didn't say the cobalt ss interior is the base cobalt interior, I said the Cobalt SS interior SHOULD be the base cobalt interior and than work there way up to the cobalt SS. The car is cheap man, admit it. Your own SS boys admit it, you should too.
Alexsered 2 years ago
Lol no they are not and no one on my page has said the seats look cheap. they don't feel cheap and they even have strap supports which...cheap seats don't have. Yeah i will admit the older style seats werent that comfortable and were rather cheap but not mine. They are way different from the older SS models. Way more comfortable, better looking and nice n stiff on the sides where you need support for tight cornering.
Raverrabbit1 2 years ago
And the other thing you gotta realize is that my car is made in america not japan. The simple fact is that you cant get preimium parts when you are paying premium price without jacking prices way up. So chevy had to cut a few corners to keep the price within reason. Ill admit that right now. But the fact is all your interior came from overseas where labor prices can be kept extremely low to produce a premium product where as mine are made here where labor is expensive
Raverrabbit1 2 years ago
So unless they wanted 30K for this car just so they could put in some better grade plastic and some better seats (which i don't have any issues with the comfort or styling of them in any way). The MS3's seats look bland as hell where as mine reflect the color of the car and add to its overall Style. So you have to look at it this way the cheap plastic makes it affordable and keeps it in the same range as your car. They had to do something to stay competitive with jap crap.
Raverrabbit1 2 years ago
jap crap? dude, don't even tell me you think your cobalt is some great amarican car, I would take the vette and ford GT as great american car rather than a crappy balt. Have you seen the seats in the mazdaspeed3? Seriously, how can you say they look bland when they are made by the same guy that makes racing seats and has leather in it. The GTO had blue/red seats to match the car, you think that looked good? LOL, get a life
Alexsered 2 years ago
Never said it was a GREAT american car...but simply more american then yours.....and yes..your seats are bland and bulky looking.....they look like a bunch of blocks of foam were sewn together to form a seat. And what exactly would you call the seats in the cobalt? standard buckets? Dude my seats sport more race style then yours. Do your seats have support straps for the tilt feature so you dont put to much stress on the mechanism when your going 150? Probably not
Raverrabbit1 2 years ago 3
I've hit 150 mph in my speed3, and I think seat support is the last thing I was thinking about at those speeds, I was more concerned with makeing sure I make that c6 vette look retarded. The speed3 have lumbar support, and angle cushion support. Maybe you should seriously take a look at the speed3 seats, I really don't know what you are talking about? It even has support for your balls if you had any.
Alexsered 2 years ago
Lol ok well yeah you go ahead and pull 150 and when your seat breaks and you plow into another car or a wall ill be laughing and yeah my car has lumbar and angle cuions and all that crap too plus mine LOOK BETTER! and yes ive looked at your crappy seats like i said......blocks of foam sewn together with some cloth thrown over them and i highly doubt your POS MS3 made a c6 look retarded. You probably looked retarded trying to race him.
Raverrabbit1 2 years ago
Ive seen your videos your car aint that damn fast.....not c6 corvette fast so keep dreaming bud
Raverrabbit1 2 years ago
Yeah id rather have black and red interior as opposed to a bright red car with gray cloth and some same gray inserts. And dude i wouldn't be talking about styling much since the MS3 just looks like dirt. Its one of thoes cars that people dont even give a second look to unless they are looking to see if it is just a M3 or a MS3 but most people wouldnt even care.
Raverrabbit1 2 years ago
I meant dsc, not dsg. Ford has seemed to step up there quality and overall value of there cars, why can't GM? There new mustang and Taures is a big step up from what they were, and they are priced very competitive.
Alexsered 2 years ago
Thats simply because americans ARENT engineering half of the decent "domestic" cars today. Ford is clearly using alot of their R&D from their UK counterparts, which has been from the publics pov a very reliable and trust worthy brand.
Mikew995 2 years ago
And the ms3 doesn't come option with DSG that was the GTI that it comes option with as well as the STI's ability to change its power ratio between the front and rear tires....so you leave out vital performance bits you take away from the overall beauty of the car. Thats why the C&D review cant be taken as seriously as you see it. They reviewed only specific parts of the vehicles not all of them. Had they done in depth reviews of them all and all performance features it WOULD be different.
Raverrabbit1 2 years ago
its still a cav
kjcrx 3 years ago
why dont you make it an 8 cylinder car?
jsheng69 3 years ago
So what you really mean when YOU say "rice" is a car with just a loud exhaust, fat-daddy chrome tip, ugly body kit, a strictly cosmetic rear wing, and no actual performance parts right? If so then good.
Re-read the 2nd to last sentence of my post... I know what is inferred by all manners of Rice-speak.
dogeatscrap 3 years ago
Wolfattack, you know not of what you speak. The term "RICE" was originally applied to motorcycles from JAPAN, now applied to any vehicle from said country. Originally, it was "RICEBURNER" because RICE is a large part of traditional Japanese diet. So to applying the term RICE should be saying the car is Japanese in origin. Just because people have loud mufflers on their Neons doesn't make it less stupid to call them RICE. Rice is a good thing, no matter what your mom says...
dogeatscrap 3 years ago
WILMA
jsheng69 3 years ago
and espesially when it's a 4 cylinder
schnittz 3 years ago
Ok, I wasn't talking about those who know what to respect and what not to.
There are Americans out there who would look at a 240sx's internals, SEE an RB, and claim that their V-8 mustangs could beat it, and rebuke it.
Even a 2.0 RB could beat a 4.6 Mustang on the 1/4 mile.
I am only talking about those people, not EVERY single Americans.
isntthisacrapysn 3 years ago
@isntthisacrapysn: A RB20DET 240SX might beat an older 5.0 Mustang{pre-1987}, but not a modern Mustang. Trust me, 200 hp wouldn't do it. But the 300 hp RB26 GT-R would make an example of both. Too bad one of the coolest Japanese sports cars ever made isn't sold in the U.S.
JaxieBoy 3 years ago
Not a real cobalt, lol.
senser1080 3 years ago
ok that is NOT a cobalt
redbeast2 3 years ago
why is it when american cars get tuned up, its not ricer.
but when someone brings in an rb26dett its automatically a ricer?
stupid americans.
isntthisacrapysn 3 years ago
because they all sound the same, a modded 206, civic, cobalt, puma, whatever, they still share the same traits, buzzy little 4-6 cylinders with whiny turbos. dumb american thing ano
RedlineGTSR 3 years ago
That car sounded great
nitinopp 3 years ago 3
i didn't know people raced planes. that's awesome. Prbbly so much fun.
1212zeek1212 3 years ago 3
These are minor league race planes. Check out the Reno air races for the real deal.
wavefool 3 years ago
The Reno planes aren't exactly what I would consider nimble though....
Ever see Red Bull Air Racing? It's about the difference between Laguna Seca and the Salt Flats.
2 completely different things. I prefer Red Bull myself. More continuously intense! :)
rccardude04 3 years ago
Slight weight difference. You are correct about the Red Bull series, it is fantastic. I have 300+ hours in the Extra 300L and it's like a glove. I also have 200 hours in a P-51D which is like a Led Zeppelin concert. 1 is quick (which hurts this old body) 1 is fast (which is healing) both are almost too much fun. peace
wavefool 3 years ago
if what you said is true and you've logged in hours in those planes then you just became my idol
slickshoesken 2 years ago