actually thought does have weight. It's a REALLY small amount though. Thought takes energy and that energy does technically produce a small (practically immeasurable) amount of gravity.
Hi all, yup...that is me at 2:22 :) Thank you to ALL who have helped on this Press conference and the Australian TV showing it.
"You can leave any time"? Sure. I thought that was true, until I was chased all the way across the country and the Tampa Police had to escort me out of the Tampa Airport at 1:45 in the Morning. Scientologists were there, screaming at me. They've continued to write thousands of lies about myself, and others who have left. Much love, Tory/Magoo
PS: Nancy is striving to be God? Anne Archer (Tommy Davis' Mom) says "Wouldn't it be wonderful if we all treated each other with respect, and love?" Please stop the hypocrisies. If you honestly lived that way, the LEAST you would do is come hear the truth about myself and others who your "church" has declared "Suppressive". Truth is, NONE of these people talking about "Happiness" will take responsibility for the abuses their "church" does, daily. TLC
Did you catch that @ 7:39? Not, "If they don't want to donate they don't have to." (like most religions) NO!! He said "If they don't want to donate THEY CAN LEAVE". They just want your money OBV.
Mormons, Christians, Muslims, Scientologists, Hindus, etc, all constructs of Man, all based on bullshit and faith in fairytales. They have so much in common, fear to control their sheep and brainwashing to keep them unquestioning the stance. So glad I escaped the herd of delusionals over 40 yrs ago and so glad I am free of the fear and look forward to my Sunday morning sleep.
@saxmanchiro so glad to hear you made it out of religion fairyland full of lies. I am also happy I was raised by religious people that thought I should make up my own mind on the idea of God and if I decided to follow a god I would be able to pick a religion that reflected my belief in that God. I looked into many religions but always came back to the idea of a God was silly. I am an Atheist.
@christinepeace I was 10 when the silliness became apparent. Raised RC, I was totally bored with the ritualistic Sunday mass, lies from clergy(ie.-not Catholic, going to Hell) and violence as well from Nuns and Priests within the school system. I put god up there with the Easter bunny, Mother Goose, Tooth Fairy, Leprechauns, Unicorns, and any other mythical creature made up by the adults.
The machine does work... as a lie detector... and all sessions are recorded... and they don't hesitate to use what you have said to smear you if you even think of leaving.
Funny how no mainstream journalist would ever do a piece like this on Islam or Christianity. Granted, I think its perfectly fine to question Scientology with the intent to make it look rediculous, as was done in this video. The problem is you will only ever see it done to Scientology. All major religions make absurd and unsubstantiated claims. They all abuse power. They all bring in tons of cash. They all smear their detractors.
Exactly what I was thinking, Great comment! I had a bitter sweet reaction to this video; Its great that Scientology is being exposed for what it is but would this kind of segment ever be done about Islam, Christianity, Mormonism or any other mainstream cult. I dont think so.
The questions asked by the reporter in this segment, about whether the machine that measures thoughts actually works is a valid one. Why don't reporters such as this one ask the same skeptical questions of Christianity or Islam - each of which makes spurious claims with no basis in reality? Why the inconsistency?
I can't believe the journalist actually asked such an asinine question of the lady, when he said that the celebrities he has interviewed don't have bad experiences with Scientologists. Of course they don't, you idiot! Celebrities have too much clout and way to much influence on societal opinion, because they have such a large forum to speak to a lot of people. Hence, the people that control the church of Scientology will treat them especially well.
omg look at that Miscavige fag's hair....he looks like vanilla ice at 3:35. I don't know about you, but I think I'd rather have a frail old man as a leader of a religion (like a pope) than this clear american psycho style slimeball. not that the pope is any good, but at least a little less creepy/shifty.
The guy who narrates this show and is interviewing these people is sharp as a tack. I loved how he stumped the shit out of that guy at the parking lot, and here he is getting another owning headlock in with this douchebag representative about how the hell the e-meter is a joke. Fuckin hell. I wish we had more shows like this. It is a little sensationalist but still well done.
That guy said it is strange for a religious leader to act agressively? WTF.... All major religions around today were founded upon agression and murder..... Where has this guy been?
My Mother was diagnosed with cancer and Scientology convinced both my parents that, not only they could cure me of being transgender, but could cure my mother, if she was to undertake the NED for OT's (higher levels they talked about) at the Sea Org in Florida (what it was called in the 80')
When the family was over $¼M in debt and mum was at OT5 (Open Thetan level 5 - max 8) she was given 3 mnths to live a was advised to take the flight home b4 she was too weak to do so.
Needless to say when my mother passed away in 86' - my father was bankrupt, the family split apart (the entire family, meaning from Grandad and the 7 bros & sis's and the theatre sized family) and I am still transgender ;)
I have been battleing with Dad to come forward for over a decade - my relationship with Dad is strained at best.
After he was excommunicated from the church for asking for the money he had invested into them (eg fwd payment's for mums OT training all paid in adv upto OT8 - in which we needed to fly mum home) - He still had the audacity to say to me 4 years ago, when I told him I was finally transitioning to female, that if he had any money, he would book 'auditing' sessions at Scientology to help me allow it to pass.
I would stand up and say my accounts which would shock you all in what they do with indocrination techniques, But my father has all the data needed to prove what these people did - he was a minister for them, and still acts as if he is one.
I have no idea what to say to this. The depths of some peoples delusions can be great. I am sorry to hear what happened, and hope you have the courage to share your story and stand up to these monsters.
Yes, me too.. and the reporter actually asked some decent questions. It's just a shame that this issue is being chased up by a trashy TV show... but hey, credit where it's due.
"All of these ex-members are liars" Yeah, like all those kids lied about being molested by priests for years, and how long did it take before the lies and deceit of the catholic church were uncovered.
I think the senator recognizes the taking of people's money under false pretenses and the promise of a better world, with a dose of threats, very easily.
If I am not mistaken he will see that everywhere he looks. It's called projection.
And all the while as these hollywood big shots are giving untold sums of money to this cult there are millions of children starving all over the world. This sickens me beyond belief.
The problem isn't that the people donating aren't "happy" (it's easy to be happy when you're brainwashed...) The problem is that, at least in the U.S. the Church is a tax-exempt business organization. That's a big problem, and very relevant to whether the Scientology organization is spending its money wisely...
I dunno...how many disgruntled ex-Catholics are there?
As an atheist I wish all of them would just go away, However the silly government has given Scientology the status of a religion now it has to real problem on its hands. At least here in the USA because how do you make a religion in the USA illegal with the separation of church and state?
i was asked the other day........."then who is your god?"
my reply......."why do you need a god?"
the response "for beauty and love"
simple answer of mine "you are looking in the wrong places!"
azmanabdula 1 year ago
6:14 "Yeah ok, what's the point" lol
Titania1 1 year ago
@Titania1 the sad part is he was not joking he had no clue.
christinepeace 10 months ago
actually thought does have weight. It's a REALLY small amount though. Thought takes energy and that energy does technically produce a small (practically immeasurable) amount of gravity.
DeflocculatedDentist 1 year ago
LOL it would render this machine useless! LAWL
legalbeagle26 1 year ago
When was this press conference and can we get a link to it?
anthonzi 1 year ago
major LULZ at 5:48 to 6:15
HRRyan2 1 year ago
wow humans have a LONG way to evolve...
projectptube 2 years ago
lol. a journalist would never have imagined going anywhere looking for answers! lol
JonDgar 2 years ago
Hi all, yup...that is me at 2:22 :) Thank you to ALL who have helped on this Press conference and the Australian TV showing it.
"You can leave any time"? Sure. I thought that was true, until I was chased all the way across the country and the Tampa Police had to escort me out of the Tampa Airport at 1:45 in the Morning. Scientologists were there, screaming at me. They've continued to write thousands of lies about myself, and others who have left. Much love, Tory/Magoo
ToryMagoo44 2 years ago 3
PS: Nancy is striving to be God? Anne Archer (Tommy Davis' Mom) says "Wouldn't it be wonderful if we all treated each other with respect, and love?" Please stop the hypocrisies. If you honestly lived that way, the LEAST you would do is come hear the truth about myself and others who your "church" has declared "Suppressive". Truth is, NONE of these people talking about "Happiness" will take responsibility for the abuses their "church" does, daily. TLC
ToryMagoo44 2 years ago 3
Thanks Tory. I have been a subscriber of yours for quite a while now. Keep up the fight - there are plenty of us beside you.
askegg 2 years ago
@ 2:22
lol, that is youtube user "ToryMagoo44"
She is very outspoken about Scientology.
stripe64 2 years ago
I would say so. I am subscribed to her and should have noticed that.
askegg 2 years ago
"the antithesis of a religious leader"
I would say he is the model of a religious leader. :P
How is this the shit this guy spews any different from Pat Robertson, the Pope, or David Koresh?
HoleDweller 2 years ago 3
Scientology are mindless cattle with checkbooks. "Oh, just shut up and move the ashtray already."
dijhili 2 years ago
5:45
Wow, that was some serious ownage.
"Supposing thoughts don't have a weight or mass, that would render this machine useless."
"Uhm...yeah. Ok. what's the point?"
Thick headed nonce. I think the reporter did a great job.
LaughingMan42 2 years ago
thanx for posting america has totally crappy tv.
styrofoamheart 2 years ago
Did you catch that @ 7:39? Not, "If they don't want to donate they don't have to." (like most religions) NO!! He said "If they don't want to donate THEY CAN LEAVE". They just want your money OBV.
n2thatguy 2 years ago 3
tory christman at 2:22!!
guaflar 2 years ago
"if thoughts don't have a mass, then this machine would be useless" looooolzz
ndjarnag 2 years ago
Mormons, Christians, Muslims, Scientologists, Hindus, etc, all constructs of Man, all based on bullshit and faith in fairytales. They have so much in common, fear to control their sheep and brainwashing to keep them unquestioning the stance. So glad I escaped the herd of delusionals over 40 yrs ago and so glad I am free of the fear and look forward to my Sunday morning sleep.
saxmanchiro 2 years ago 6
@saxmanchiro : Amen!
Nagneto 1 year ago
@Nagneto You mean, rAmen.
"Nowhere am I so desperately needed as among a shipload of illogical humans."- Spock
saxmanchiro 1 year ago
@saxmanchiro so glad to hear you made it out of religion fairyland full of lies. I am also happy I was raised by religious people that thought I should make up my own mind on the idea of God and if I decided to follow a god I would be able to pick a religion that reflected my belief in that God. I looked into many religions but always came back to the idea of a God was silly. I am an Atheist.
Cheers Christine
christinepeace 10 months ago
@christinepeace I was 10 when the silliness became apparent. Raised RC, I was totally bored with the ritualistic Sunday mass, lies from clergy(ie.-not Catholic, going to Hell) and violence as well from Nuns and Priests within the school system. I put god up there with the Easter bunny, Mother Goose, Tooth Fairy, Leprechauns, Unicorns, and any other mythical creature made up by the adults.
saxmanchiro 10 months ago
LOL at the shot of him taking notes!
allthestarsinthesky 2 years ago
Scientology = Horse-sh!t.
Subscribe to Scientology's ideology, and you render yourself an idiot, as far as I'm concerned.
'A dangerous cult, indeed.
otherether 2 years ago
Wackos, the lot of them.
nemo3590 2 years ago
"Supposing thoughts don't have a weight or mass, that would render this machine useless."
"Uhm...yeah. Ok. what's the point?"
Thick headed nonce. I think the reporter did a great job.
lyvvie 2 years ago 2
@lyvvie
The machine does work... as a lie detector... and all sessions are recorded... and they don't hesitate to use what you have said to smear you if you even think of leaving.
ydyammo 2 years ago
Funny how no mainstream journalist would ever do a piece like this on Islam or Christianity. Granted, I think its perfectly fine to question Scientology with the intent to make it look rediculous, as was done in this video. The problem is you will only ever see it done to Scientology. All major religions make absurd and unsubstantiated claims. They all abuse power. They all bring in tons of cash. They all smear their detractors.
krebul 2 years ago
Exactly what I was thinking, Great comment! I had a bitter sweet reaction to this video; Its great that Scientology is being exposed for what it is but would this kind of segment ever be done about Islam, Christianity, Mormonism or any other mainstream cult. I dont think so.
ChiefRepublic 2 years ago
The questions asked by the reporter in this segment, about whether the machine that measures thoughts actually works is a valid one. Why don't reporters such as this one ask the same skeptical questions of Christianity or Islam - each of which makes spurious claims with no basis in reality? Why the inconsistency?
alphacause 2 years ago
I can't believe the journalist actually asked such an asinine question of the lady, when he said that the celebrities he has interviewed don't have bad experiences with Scientologists. Of course they don't, you idiot! Celebrities have too much clout and way to much influence on societal opinion, because they have such a large forum to speak to a lot of people. Hence, the people that control the church of Scientology will treat them especially well.
alphacause 2 years ago
Why do all the scientologists' eyes look dead?
coladict 2 years ago
Scientology sickens me.
LittleTruckingBozo 2 years ago
wheres the loony bin lol. The more i hear about scientology, the crazier it becomes to my understanding. Thanks for showing.
01101100d 2 years ago
oh man, it made me so happy when he challenged him on the 'thoughts have weight' BS
postalgbv 2 years ago
oh my god 6:10 "...that would render this machine useless"
"Uh, yeah. ok. What's the point?"
HRRyan2 2 years ago 3
omg look at that Miscavige fag's hair....he looks like vanilla ice at 3:35. I don't know about you, but I think I'd rather have a frail old man as a leader of a religion (like a pope) than this clear american psycho style slimeball. not that the pope is any good, but at least a little less creepy/shifty.
Thrashaero 2 years ago
The guy who narrates this show and is interviewing these people is sharp as a tack. I loved how he stumped the shit out of that guy at the parking lot, and here he is getting another owning headlock in with this douchebag representative about how the hell the e-meter is a joke. Fuckin hell. I wish we had more shows like this. It is a little sensationalist but still well done.
Thrashaero 2 years ago
That guy said it is strange for a religious leader to act agressively? WTF.... All major religions around today were founded upon agression and murder..... Where has this guy been?
tempemonkey2323 2 years ago 3
"Supposing that thought doesn't have a weight or a mass, that would render this machine useless?"
"Ok, what's the point?"
Facepalm in 3.....2......1.....
"I don't expect a religious leader to physically assualt and threaten the way that man does, he is the antithesis of a religious leader."
No, not really.
Raptor302 2 years ago 2
scarry cult
fallbread 2 years ago 2
5:50 classic skeptic believer moment
tekhiun 2 years ago
My Mother was diagnosed with cancer and Scientology convinced both my parents that, not only they could cure me of being transgender, but could cure my mother, if she was to undertake the NED for OT's (higher levels they talked about) at the Sea Org in Florida (what it was called in the 80')
When the family was over $¼M in debt and mum was at OT5 (Open Thetan level 5 - max 8) she was given 3 mnths to live a was advised to take the flight home b4 she was too weak to do so.
more ...
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago 2
...
Needless to say when my mother passed away in 86' - my father was bankrupt, the family split apart (the entire family, meaning from Grandad and the 7 bros & sis's and the theatre sized family) and I am still transgender ;)
I have been battleing with Dad to come forward for over a decade - my relationship with Dad is strained at best.
more ....
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
After he was excommunicated from the church for asking for the money he had invested into them (eg fwd payment's for mums OT training all paid in adv upto OT8 - in which we needed to fly mum home) - He still had the audacity to say to me 4 years ago, when I told him I was finally transitioning to female, that if he had any money, he would book 'auditing' sessions at Scientology to help me allow it to pass.
more ...
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
...
I would stand up and say my accounts which would shock you all in what they do with indocrination techniques, But my father has all the data needed to prove what these people did - he was a minister for them, and still acts as if he is one.
Peace out people
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
I have no idea what to say to this. The depths of some peoples delusions can be great. I am sorry to hear what happened, and hope you have the courage to share your story and stand up to these monsters.
askegg 2 years ago
I do 'egg'
Trust me, I do
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
A 1 billion year contract?
Well now, that's just fuckin pointless...
Raptor302 2 years ago
All I see is a profit scheme. Disgusting.
"Who ever said religion should be free"
mrx0066600 2 years ago
I'm amazed that TT did a decent report. :D
Chooky707 2 years ago
It's a miracle.
askegg 2 years ago
Yes, me too.. and the reporter actually asked some decent questions. It's just a shame that this issue is being chased up by a trashy TV show... but hey, credit where it's due.
AtheistAussie 2 years ago
"All of these ex-members are liars" Yeah, like all those kids lied about being molested by priests for years, and how long did it take before the lies and deceit of the catholic church were uncovered.
Sarge084 2 years ago 2
I think the senator recognizes the taking of people's money under false pretenses and the promise of a better world, with a dose of threats, very easily.
If I am not mistaken he will see that everywhere he looks. It's called projection.
modelmark 2 years ago
Thank God for Skepticism!
TheD0ded0de 2 years ago
Slappy Mscavige.
Phelan666 2 years ago
"Suppose that thought doesn't have a weight or a mass; then that would render this machine useless "
"Uh, yeah, ok, what's the point?"
*Laughing hard* Stop. You're killing me.
AntipodalBrink 2 years ago 2
That... was awesome.
OutlawGrrl 2 years ago
And all the while as these hollywood big shots are giving untold sums of money to this cult there are millions of children starving all over the world. This sickens me beyond belief.
BeekersSqueakers 2 years ago
@BeekersSqueakers
Brilliant though, gotta admire it.
1) Come up with an idea to make celebrities feel better than normal people
2) Get them to give you money for it
Hiddeknight0 2 years ago
Or at least make the celebrities think they feel better than normal people.
BeekersSqueakers 2 years ago
The problem isn't that the people donating aren't "happy" (it's easy to be happy when you're brainwashed...) The problem is that, at least in the U.S. the Church is a tax-exempt business organization. That's a big problem, and very relevant to whether the Scientology organization is spending its money wisely...
Cyrathil 2 years ago
I dunno...how many disgruntled ex-Catholics are there?
As an atheist I wish all of them would just go away, However the silly government has given Scientology the status of a religion now it has to real problem on its hands. At least here in the USA because how do you make a religion in the USA illegal with the separation of church and state?
KasparHauser4 2 years ago
2:22
TORY :D
TheReasonWhyGuy 2 years ago 3
thoughts have mass? get fucked.
reallifeistoflat 2 years ago 4
I love his response: "And what's your point"
The point is that if thoughts do not have weight, your entire religion is based on a lie.
askegg 2 years ago
not only that but if you make a claim like that it probably should be a big deal that, no, they don't have weight.. they are in fact intangible.
might as well start saying snakes can talk.
reallifeistoflat 2 years ago
oh my what a stupidity that is. Though has mass? No, the support for the process has mass. Duh.
farvision 2 years ago
"neither me and my husband had any money.."
*Probably* because you gave it all to Scientology?
TingTang1234567 2 years ago 2