RSW 2009_03_22 (Sparring Claymore vs Katana on grass)

[MormonJezus]

This isn't a very realistic sparring session is it? As far as I know katanas aren't made for blocking blows, especially not from a claymore.

[gregbreinholt]

@MormonJezus That's kind of the point ;-)

Different weapons, with different skills, and enjoying the challenge.

[Lordoofious]

Why am I getting a Devil May Cry feel.

[darkfrenchy]

THATS LOOK FUN. CONGRATS! ... JUST A TIP FOR THE KATANA FIGHTER U SHOULD LOOK FOR MARUBASHI AND KIRIKAESHI NICE VID! 

[purplebob2]

The guy with the claymore doesn't use enough of is weight shift

[Vindictus1000]

Singapore looks nice

[kn0ckingIN]

You guys have a club for this? I'd love to join.

[gregbreinholt]

@kn0ckingIN Yes, see Jacks profile, search YouTube for user/jackchn

[kn0ckingIN]

@gregbreinholt Sweet thx.

[MariusThePaladin]

Katana have a lot of disadvantages against claymore.

1. It's shorter. (it's 2-h weapon against 2-h weapon...)

2.It's thinner. (lower in term of durability)

3.It's lighter. (lower in term of power)

3.It has only one edge.

[Yorthan]

You're not supposed to block with your body.. Just saying.

[anointedsword]

claymores are way to heavy for a none armor fights. Have to remember, large and heavy swords were used to go through armor. Armor made the individual slow so you did not have to be concerned with speed. With that said, personally, I would love to face a claymore in a real battle.

[GregorMar]

Nothing is better than Polish Hussar sabre. Look on this samples below, any other white weapon is not so quick as sabre and fore sure any sword even Japanese katana. See yourself how quick polish hussar sabre is. Any Japanese fencer wouldn’t have a chance with master of polish hussar sabre.

/watch?v=oo0z_R59P8M

/watch?v=LzHYqehsAYA

/watch?v=pHP4pSQvbxk

This are fencer from Polish Sabre Society in Warsaw

[WiggaMachiavelli]

I'm assuming the dude with the "katana" has never actually studied how to use one, or even kendou, for that matter...

[VengeanceIV]

this is in Moscow, am I right?

[gregbreinholt]

@VengeanceIV Sorry no, its Singapore.

[VengeanceIV]

@gregbreinholt aw, Ik a park in Moscow that looks just like that w/the buildings behind it lol

[LordIkaruga]

This is good to get technique down but what really works is being fully armored up and swinging 45 lbs of hickory wrapped in a layer of duct tape. See if you can handle that kind of pain.

[DragonSniper7]

claymores were one of the strongest swords, but VERY heavy. Only a few people could actuallty weild claymores properly....

[Pawnbroker00]

@DragonSniper7 LOL no, they arent heavy, you clowns only think of the braveheart "claymore" which was never used anyway, it is tactically a waste of time unless you are made like a fridge. Claymore means bigsword in scottish language, but braveheart has introduced the word claymore as a loanword for bastard/great sword

[goliathlup1]

claymore won?

[leadbone1]

What's with holding the katana like it is an umbrella? Get it off your shoulder, away from your head, and your elbows out more. If you suddenly want the sword on the left side, your own head is in the way. A stance should either be centered or, if it's a right guard/left guard of some sort, the sword should have ample room to maneuver. If you start out with the blade next to your face and your arms tucked in like that your options suddenly become much more limited.

[Zodiamaster]

why the guy with the claymore uses that ridiculous stance with the sword on his shoulder?

[kn0ckingIN]

@Zodiamaster That's how you wield a claymore.

[NSOmega2]

I love how some people think that a guy sparring with a claymore against a guy with a katana now has anything to do with a highlander and samurai centuries ago. Every weapon has weaknesses, it has a lot to do with the guy holding it though.

[TheGarcia350]

hmm...both of you need more rhythm into the weapon style. there's no connection between the user and the sword nor effort to give a trust worthy swing especially on the claymore. where i come from, we use Machetes, each with they're own characteristics and sizes(Home forged like any sword). when we spar, we of course have the actual weapon sealed in the sheath tightly. im not sure about you guys, but when we practice, we synchronize ourselves with the sword's movement in both attack and defense

[BloodxMixture]

at 2:25 - 2:29 was really cool. (=

[AlbertChyn]

it also seemed like u got more hits on the katana guy

[AlbertChyn]

great vid where did you learn that style with the two handed?

[Jukkaimaru]

I was fairly surprised how well the katana stood up in this pairing. The katana wielder actually managed to slip past the claymore's reach and strike clean.

[allhailfoamy1]

hmmm guy with the katana doesn't seem to know how to parry a hit very well

[SteelCrash]

omg do you thing samurais were strong enough to deflect full swing from a knight yea right

[rickyjangatang1]

@SteelCrash they dodge it =D and slice ur balls open

[benderboyboy]

@SteelCrash Yes, a samurai can deflect a knight's full swing. Don't flatter yourself on the strength. Deflecting is mainly the technique of redirecting something's movement. This was evident in the age of Robin Hood, the era of the yeomens. They defeated strong and heavily armored knights with nimble and agile feats, usually with nothing more than a buckler and short sword, and a lot of parrying and tumbling.

If you had said block however, that would be a totally different case...

[kokulink]

claymore ftw

[kokulink]

i think clay more its thicker heavier stronger faster

[kokulink]

i think clay more its thicker heavier stronger faster haha =]

[genesisSOC]

This looks like SO much fun! I'd love to try this! I've been training with a claymore for many years now, this looks like it'd be an absolute blast!

[DiabolusIgnis]

How are these padded, and what kind of a core do these have? Also, how are the cross-guards built, as well as the point and the pommel? =)

[LCAratari]

there is no power in the swings... i hate when larper fight like this...

have u fear to get "hurt" by a fucking latex sword?? :D

[gregbreinholt]

@LCAratari

These are RSW weapons, not latex; metal core, and then padded.

Since you seem to have some macho shit to prove, yes they can hurt when struck.

[gormitiguy1]

@gregbreinholt yea that makes sence, i didn't see the swords bow

[SilverwingMagic]

@LCAratari c'mon now.. They design these weapons so that you KNOW when you've been hit.. They don't cut pool noodles into shape and start swinging them..

Now, I personally prefer wooden weapons with no padding, but that's just for cheaper weapons.. Plus they last a long time.

[Halofreakanoid]

@LCAratari : There's a kind of a big difference between larping, boffer fighting, and fencing that you should look into

[froobcakes]

thinking about how if that was a real fight back when there were actual sword fights. these people must have had a very low life expectancy. the way it seemed so random how they seemed to hit each other one mistake and your dead lol.

[Yip1991]

i think the same things sometimes, kind of makes you wonder if those "great warriors" were actually that great

[zebrin]

Resting a sword on your shoulder like the claymore dude is doing is ... well... stupid. It leaves only a few options for an opening strike(Diagonally down, straight down, and a curve to the side.) and leaves you wide open to a strike from the side the claymore isn't resting on. If the katana dude had dodged to the side then struck at waist level he would have won every time, while the claymore guy tries to recover.

[gregbreinholt]

I don't mean to sound dismissive, but this is one of the 'standard' stances for use with a long sword... especially a long heavy sword.

The weight of the weapon means that raising from lower stances is very slow.

[zebrin]

Yes, for marching in formation, or long distance running, most of the time you would hold it in front of you though. More play and the weight would still work for you.

the whole point of a two handed sword is that you use the off hand for leverage, letting you strong hand be the pivot.

And I would love to see where you heard about it being standard. (Being quite serious here, did you read it in a book or something?)

I am not, by any means, a sword master, it just was weird seeing that.

[gregbreinholt]

Good comments.

Look at this video for some German Long Sword Techniques, around 30 seconds point, or 49 second point, etc,etc.

[zebrin]

Which video? the search I did on German Long Sword Techniques turned up this "=Y3DhjFUOG6Y" which had some interesting movements, including several disarms and a couple drops, but they never shouldered their weapons except to get them out of the way.

(By the way, did you put a (Dot)com in there? Youtube is finicky about URLs. It eats them now.)

[gregbreinholt]

Yes, It ate the link. Sorry.

It was the one you mentioned... look at time times I mentioned above, or from 1:26.

There is shouldering between attacks.

I think this is a natural movement to make with the heavier weapons, in-between attacks.

[255Knights]

A long sword is not suppose to be heavy what so ever. The weight of them was suppose to be about the same as a Katana.

/watch?v=K9UrXT6PXu0

Yes, long swords are longer then Katans, but they have just about the same weight. Why, the long sword is straight, this helps in length, the curve suffers in length...

[gregbreinholt]

I would agree about European long swords swords (bastard swords, long swords, etc) in general.

The weapon I'm using IS heavier than the Katana, and other long European swords.

It is modeled after a heavy Claymore.

[zebrin]

Ahh, yes for between attack? Maybe. I personally wouldn't do it because it blocks a lot of options to from me.(And leaves a very real option of cutting my own arm/head off.) That aside, what I was referring to in my first post was using the shouldered claymore as a starting position.

[Semiomniscient]

But it shouldn't be much heavier--they were lighter than most of the two-handers in Europe including the lowlands of Scotland... and actually, the baskethilted broadswords were the things called claymores.

[Abazin89]

Claymore rulaaazz !! :)

[comexland]

There can only be one!

[fedorwelikala]

the guy with the claymore looks a little clumsy,