the alternator is down lower on the 302 than 351 windsor and different deck heights/physical size. That is definitely a 302W, because look how tiny it is in that engine bay! as mentioned below, the Clevo is a physically larger engine again. The Cleveland blocks are the same, you can throw a 408 stroker kit at the 302 or 351 version. the 351W and C are similar in size, but Windsor is a narrower V, with coolant passages through the manifold (and later TB) like a chev
Fords designation of differant motors was simply which plant the motor was manufactured in. The rods and main caps in a 351c are in fact quite a bit larger than a 351w Also the 351c has a taller deck height than a 351w. And the 351c is roughly 80 pounds heavier. I know, i designed the oiling system for the 351c in 1967.
OK, enough sillyness. There is no official designation for the 302 Ford it is simply a 302. There is no such thing as a 302 clevland, unless you bolt on a set of 351c heads onto it and that requires a special intake. It is sometimes referred to as a windsor because it is part of the same family as the 351w.
@MrDavidboggs I dont wish to argue with you sir but I have a 302 Cleveland in a Ford Falcon. It is the exact same block as the 351c but has a different crank and rods that lower the displacement. This is an Australian car though, so Im not sure if it is an Ozzy only motor but there are thousands of them here!! I also have a 302 Windsor in another car. This is a completly different motor as it is phsycally a lot smaller and has a narrower V.
@PhatArtz Ah yes, it certainly could be so. The ford Austrailian motors were a differant breed altogether. If i'm not mistaken the Ozzy motors were designed by Ford Austrailia. I know i never worked on one. Thanks for the info. Btw sometimes i forget that You Tube is international.
@MrDavidboggs I believe the Windsor is a lot more common in the USA because it came out in the Mustangs, where as the Cleveland is a lot more common in Oz because it was used in our Falcon. Both the Cleveland and the Windsor are available here as a 302 or a 351, and both are commmonly stroked to 396 or 427 cubic inches! To add even more confusion, we also have the Boss motor, which is a windsor block with cleveland heads. PS, I find a lot of Americans forget there is a world outside the USA lol!
Some info per wikipedia..... The 351W is often confused with the 351 Cleveland, which is a different engine of identical displacement
. Although related in general configuration to the 289-302 and sharing the same bell housing, motor mounts and other small parts, the 351W had a unique, tall deck block, larger main bearing caps, thicker, longer connecting rods, and a distinct firing order (1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8 vs. 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8), adding some 25 lb (11 kg) to the engine's dry weight.
@getdafukoutahere Ford small-block V8 bell housing patterns are the same between 289/302/351 Clevo and Windsor variants. I don't know how anybody worth a pinch of shit can confuse a Windsor with a Cleveland. They look completely different. Clevo valleys are huge and wide, and the thermostat housings aren't even close to being the same, plus he casting block near the water pump outlet.......
gee i dont understand all the know it all out there i own this truck i built the eng i know what the fuck i have ive got a 302 windsor small block i have broken blocks and cranks so i do know wot i have look at my vids of my skids so if you think you know wot i have in my truck and you say its not a 302 windsor GO FUCK YOUR SELF YOU DONT KNOW WOT YOU R GOING ON ABOUT
ok to get the 302 -351 WINDSOR thing straight look it up on wikipedia it is very interesting and yes there is a windsor 302 but the 351 has some differences like the firing order and other stuff so look it up. It also talks about the cleveland engines and how its related.
@hpaddyh Im confused, you just said "302 Windsor, no such animal", then went on to explain the differences between a 302 and 351 Windsor!
For the record, I have a 302 Windsor in my falcon XR8, and a 302 Cleveland in my XE Falcon and a 351 Cleveland in my F100! So the 302 Windsor definitly does exsist!!
Love ur truck. I had a 79 myself witha hi preformance 460(bored 60) bolted to a C6 with a shift kit. My father wrecked it. I am now lookin at another old 70's ford to buy for the motor and tranny. I want it to sit juist liie yours. Could you please message me end telll me the size tires and drop you put on it and what u had to do to get the tires to fit.
its a 79 with a small block windsor its a 302 and for all the know it all out there windsors come out in 289w 302w 351w and the clevo coms out 302c 351c same block diffrent crank and rod sizes and head chamber r diffrent clevo came out in australia and usa both difrent blocks usa was a D block witch thay used in the gt falcons from late 1970-1972
@ziggie2969 your stupid the only windsor is 351w 289 is a 289 and a 302 is a 302 learn your shit before you try actin all smart and the 351c is clevland theres no other clevland but 351c
@PhatArtz 302 cleveland ? maybe a 302 with 351c heads which would make a boss 302 and a 302 windsor is that a 302 with 351w heads ? because if not theres no such thing as a 302w or 302c if so send me some pictures id like to see this
@PhatArtz that would be that you have an XD or XE then - some of the XE's had an XE or "Nascar" block with 4-bolt caps and fatter jacket castings that gave them the nickname of a Pillow-block (not the same as the pillow or D-block 4V clevo in the XY/ZD/Mustang). your 91 falcon (must be an EARLY eb!) is essentially an EFI 302W, yes... but they have a different firing order to an old 289/302W.
@kgkleader '78 model Ranger XLT's had the rectangle headlights as well. The '78 Custom & Ranger models carried over the round headlights untill '79 when all ford trucks went to rectangle headlights.
What im trying to say is just because it has rectangle headlights dosent automatically mean its a '79 truck.
@papabugs71 ya id seen that before but i didnt know. thought people were just junkyard swapping different lights on there trucks. thanks for the tidbit of info.
ok ok ok let a 19 year old clear all this up for yall there is a 351 windsor, moddified to a 400, and clevland. and yes 302 did have a windsor also the diffrents is a windsor is basicly the smallest of the 3 then theres the moddified and then u have the biggen the clevland wich has bigger heads then the moddified everything esle is the same and the name "clevland" comes from clevland ohio from ware it was built back in the day there thats for all of yall lol
I thought 351 was the cleve or wind but i've been hearing more peeps say that the 302 came in a Windsor option.. personally I don't know what the diff is but seems it is true
I guess it just depends on where the motor was created huh ? Anyways nice truck ! I think personally I'd paint it black or a darker color to keep low key on the road. I love those model year f100's.. My pops owned one back in the day when I was a kid and it would be nice if he still had it.. I think i've asked him about it and it had a 390 in it.
@mixwell1983 You can get both a 302 Winsor or Cleveland and a 351 Windsor or cleveland. The difference between the 2 motors is the degree of the "V". A Windsor is a phsycally much smaller motor being a smaller V and is good for smaller cars with less room in the engine bay but the Cleveland makes much more power and torque. You can make a 302 will accept a 351 crank, rods and pistons if you want to make it bigger as the blocks are exactly the same :)
@PhatArtz - Good to know.. I always knew in the 351 the Cleveland was larger but I didn't know the 302 had windsor or cleveland titles, thought it was simple just a 302. 351 heads are compatible with a 302 also aren't they ?
@mixwell1983 No probs :) Yes, the heads are essentiially the same. Valve sizes etc are similar. There a 2v and 4v heads available, plus high flow 2v heads...it gets a little confusing, lol!
460 is better for working trucks and dragboats then drag trucks. Sure you can get a good amount of power from them but in the end they are heavy as hell.
looks like a 302 allright but is it a aftermarket block?? a stock block will broke in halve in about 500+ hp
demon6696 1 day ago
whats the color called?
travisperreault 4 months ago
Very nice! Love it. I'm thinking of going to blow-thru turbo on my F100 since there isnt a lot of blower kits for carbed 302/5.0.
BTW - I love how people on here have opinions but have never built a truck in their life. Keep up the good work!
neforddude 6 months ago
460 would sound and look better in here
zbadass650 8 months ago
now thats a real truck
chevysucks48 9 months ago
they are all windsors. the 289 302 and 351 engine because they were assembled at the windsor engine plant. hince the name.
94vertstang 10 months ago
@94vertstang that's the engine series bud. a Cleveland is different and it was probably not assembled there
Mintfooter 1 month ago
MACHINEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
ford26ful 10 months ago
the alternator is down lower on the 302 than 351 windsor and different deck heights/physical size. That is definitely a 302W, because look how tiny it is in that engine bay! as mentioned below, the Clevo is a physically larger engine again. The Cleveland blocks are the same, you can throw a 408 stroker kit at the 302 or 351 version. the 351W and C are similar in size, but Windsor is a narrower V, with coolant passages through the manifold (and later TB) like a chev
Xranruuulel 11 months ago
Fords designation of differant motors was simply which plant the motor was manufactured in. The rods and main caps in a 351c are in fact quite a bit larger than a 351w Also the 351c has a taller deck height than a 351w. And the 351c is roughly 80 pounds heavier. I know, i designed the oiling system for the 351c in 1967.
MrDavidboggs 11 months ago
@MrDavidboggs You sir, are a legend :) Love your work! :)
PhatArtz 11 months ago
OK, enough sillyness. There is no official designation for the 302 Ford it is simply a 302. There is no such thing as a 302 clevland, unless you bolt on a set of 351c heads onto it and that requires a special intake. It is sometimes referred to as a windsor because it is part of the same family as the 351w.
MrDavidboggs 11 months ago
@MrDavidboggs I dont wish to argue with you sir but I have a 302 Cleveland in a Ford Falcon. It is the exact same block as the 351c but has a different crank and rods that lower the displacement. This is an Australian car though, so Im not sure if it is an Ozzy only motor but there are thousands of them here!! I also have a 302 Windsor in another car. This is a completly different motor as it is phsycally a lot smaller and has a narrower V.
PhatArtz 11 months ago
@PhatArtz Ah yes, it certainly could be so. The ford Austrailian motors were a differant breed altogether. If i'm not mistaken the Ozzy motors were designed by Ford Austrailia. I know i never worked on one. Thanks for the info. Btw sometimes i forget that You Tube is international.
MrDavidboggs 11 months ago
@MrDavidboggs I believe the Windsor is a lot more common in the USA because it came out in the Mustangs, where as the Cleveland is a lot more common in Oz because it was used in our Falcon. Both the Cleveland and the Windsor are available here as a 302 or a 351, and both are commmonly stroked to 396 or 427 cubic inches! To add even more confusion, we also have the Boss motor, which is a windsor block with cleveland heads. PS, I find a lot of Americans forget there is a world outside the USA lol!
PhatArtz 11 months ago
@PhatArtz thats cuz we really don't care...
Mintfooter 1 month ago
@Mintfooter Yep, that is very clear...and nothing to be proud of!
PhatArtz 1 month ago
very cool, i wish mine looked like that!
KartRacer695 11 months ago
Some info per wikipedia..... The 351W is often confused with the 351 Cleveland, which is a different engine of identical displacement
. Although related in general configuration to the 289-302 and sharing the same bell housing, motor mounts and other small parts, the 351W had a unique, tall deck block, larger main bearing caps, thicker, longer connecting rods, and a distinct firing order (1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8 vs. 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8), adding some 25 lb (11 kg) to the engine's dry weight.
getdafukoutahere 1 year ago
@getdafukoutahere Ford small-block V8 bell housing patterns are the same between 289/302/351 Clevo and Windsor variants. I don't know how anybody worth a pinch of shit can confuse a Windsor with a Cleveland. They look completely different. Clevo valleys are huge and wide, and the thermostat housings aren't even close to being the same, plus he casting block near the water pump outlet.......
Xranruuulel 11 months ago
@Xranruuulel Yeah you just pretty much repeated my original post...???
getdafukoutahere 11 months ago
gee i dont understand all the know it all out there i own this truck i built the eng i know what the fuck i have ive got a 302 windsor small block i have broken blocks and cranks so i do know wot i have look at my vids of my skids so if you think you know wot i have in my truck and you say its not a 302 windsor GO FUCK YOUR SELF YOU DONT KNOW WOT YOU R GOING ON ABOUT
ziggie2969 1 year ago 7
@ziggie2969 do you have any other pics of this truck? any pics of the interior?
MissBubbles530 11 months ago
@ziggie2969 is the hood fiberglass and where did you get it
zombified4321 3 months ago
personally, id pick the back end up a bit but thats a damn nice truck.
HondaRiderCR250 1 year ago
OMG, look at those black patches by the tailpipes!!! Poor truck!
JSneaker 1 year ago
@hpaddyh actually, not all windsor engines were produced at the windsor plant.
zeppelin67637 1 year ago
ok to get the 302 -351 WINDSOR thing straight look it up on wikipedia it is very interesting and yes there is a windsor 302 but the 351 has some differences like the firing order and other stuff so look it up. It also talks about the cleveland engines and how its related.
TheSpartan2235 1 year ago
44 ft to the gallon... bad ass truck
bently783 1 year ago
@hpaddyh Im confused, you just said "302 Windsor, no such animal", then went on to explain the differences between a 302 and 351 Windsor!
For the record, I have a 302 Windsor in my falcon XR8, and a 302 Cleveland in my XE Falcon and a 351 Cleveland in my F100! So the 302 Windsor definitly does exsist!!
PhatArtz 1 year ago
seems a bit rich :D
Nza420 1 year ago
What year is this can someone help
ps3kid310 1 year ago
i have a 351 w H.O. in my old 68 f100... i think ill put a blower on it
what type of blower is that
heroofwar01 1 year ago
HAHA damn that blower is bigger than the engine!!! (8
87BRAND 1 year ago
Love ur truck. I had a 79 myself witha hi preformance 460(bored 60) bolted to a C6 with a shift kit. My father wrecked it. I am now lookin at another old 70's ford to buy for the motor and tranny. I want it to sit juist liie yours. Could you please message me end telll me the size tires and drop you put on it and what u had to do to get the tires to fit.
gadejfan 1 year ago
how much hp are ya makin?
bubub56 1 year ago
tareco de mierda
MrLukitaz2237 1 year ago
alittle rich ay?
tmitchell6 1 year ago
love that truck, love hearing that blower cry.
NissanTy 1 year ago
nicee oil leak
javichio 1 year ago
NICE WORK OUR TRUCKS ARE ALOT ALIKE
watchdogfourhier 1 year ago
@watchdogfourhier did you look at my outher vids ?
ziggie2969 1 year ago
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watchdogfourhier 1 year ago
i want that ruck
billy1364 1 year ago
What is that a small block Ford with an oil leak?
468bbccapri 1 year ago
thats the biggest pully iv ever seen on a supercharger lol how much boost that thing pushing man nice clean truck i love it
fordboy111591 1 year ago
What year is that?
OriolesMagicfan 2 years ago
@OriolesMagicfan that would be a 79' u can tell by the headlights
6van6city6dgk 2 years ago
78 mid year it has the full grille and square headlights
fordboy111591 1 year ago
I would LOVE to see this bad boy go down the track one good time....
jpcs302 2 years ago
i gotta 71 ford f100 custom
zenathors 2 years ago
what kind of exhaust do you have on this truck?
blackesteyes13 2 years ago
im restoring a truck like this except its got the split grille.....i hope it turns out somewhere close to this.
blackesteyes13 2 years ago
@blackesteyes13 im building a 69 f250 right now and aming for this area i bleeive
KawiKZ400 2 years ago
good truck
svo65 2 years ago
AWESOME TRUCK MAN!!!!!
0142861 2 years ago
looks like a 78-79
djkenster228 2 years ago
what year is this f100? i got a 81 f100 recently very cheap and am dropping it
alchemyluv 2 years ago
That truck is either a 78 or a 79. Those were the only 2 years Ford put that front end on them.
papabugs71 2 years ago
its a 79 with a small block windsor its a 302 and for all the know it all out there windsors come out in 289w 302w 351w and the clevo coms out 302c 351c same block diffrent crank and rod sizes and head chamber r diffrent clevo came out in australia and usa both difrent blocks usa was a D block witch thay used in the gt falcons from late 1970-1972
ziggie2969 2 years ago
Here in America we had the very first Windsor motor was a 221, then came the 260, and then the 289. The 302, and 351 came out in the late sixties
saludahead 2 years ago
@ziggie2969 your stupid the only windsor is 351w 289 is a 289 and a 302 is a 302 learn your shit before you try actin all smart and the 351c is clevland theres no other clevland but 351c
440exxxrider 1 year ago
@440exxxrider Um, actually, YOU are wrong!! I an 83 have a Ford Falcon with a 302 Cleveland, and a 91 Falcon with a 302 Windsor....soooooooo.....
PhatArtz 11 months ago
@PhatArtz 302 cleveland ? maybe a 302 with 351c heads which would make a boss 302 and a 302 windsor is that a 302 with 351w heads ? because if not theres no such thing as a 302w or 302c if so send me some pictures id like to see this
440exxxrider 11 months ago
@PhatArtz that would be that you have an XD or XE then - some of the XE's had an XE or "Nascar" block with 4-bolt caps and fatter jacket castings that gave them the nickname of a Pillow-block (not the same as the pillow or D-block 4V clevo in the XY/ZD/Mustang). your 91 falcon (must be an EARLY eb!) is essentially an EFI 302W, yes... but they have a different firing order to an old 289/302W.
Xranruuulel 11 months ago
@papabugs71 u can tell its a 79 cuz of the headlights to.
kgkleader 1 year ago
@kgkleader '78 model Ranger XLT's had the rectangle headlights as well. The '78 Custom & Ranger models carried over the round headlights untill '79 when all ford trucks went to rectangle headlights.
What im trying to say is just because it has rectangle headlights dosent automatically mean its a '79 truck.
papabugs71 1 year ago
@papabugs71 ya id seen that before but i didnt know. thought people were just junkyard swapping different lights on there trucks. thanks for the tidbit of info.
kgkleader 1 year ago
@kgkleader
No problamo !!
papabugs71 1 year ago
@papabugs71, you cant always go by the grille. They can be switched out to the earlier split grille shell and inserts.
79fordblake 1 year ago
@79fordblake Very true !
papabugs71 1 year ago
The grille & square lights are from '79.
dagen2009 2 years ago
do u no what it will run on a 1/4 mile
bradydabomb1 2 years ago
my dream truck! Damn!!
svtgabe 2 years ago
ok ok ok let a 19 year old clear all this up for yall there is a 351 windsor, moddified to a 400, and clevland. and yes 302 did have a windsor also the diffrents is a windsor is basicly the smallest of the 3 then theres the moddified and then u have the biggen the clevland wich has bigger heads then the moddified everything esle is the same and the name "clevland" comes from clevland ohio from ware it was built back in the day there thats for all of yall lol
bryanritchey 2 years ago
lol 0:00-0:05 look at exhaust made ground black
themechanic4 2 years ago
Muy Buena tu Trocka
lmanibarrmor 2 years ago
"actually the windsor is the 351 isnt it?"
I thought 351 was the cleve or wind but i've been hearing more peeps say that the 302 came in a Windsor option.. personally I don't know what the diff is but seems it is true
mixwell1983 2 years ago
its a 302 windsor not a 351 windsor it has around 600 at the fly wheel
ziggie2969 2 years ago
I guess it just depends on where the motor was created huh ? Anyways nice truck ! I think personally I'd paint it black or a darker color to keep low key on the road. I love those model year f100's.. My pops owned one back in the day when I was a kid and it would be nice if he still had it.. I think i've asked him about it and it had a 390 in it.
mixwell1983 2 years ago
i only knw of a 351 windser not a 302.... hum idk either
jeffersonS93 2 years ago
@mixwell1983 You can get both a 302 Winsor or Cleveland and a 351 Windsor or cleveland. The difference between the 2 motors is the degree of the "V". A Windsor is a phsycally much smaller motor being a smaller V and is good for smaller cars with less room in the engine bay but the Cleveland makes much more power and torque. You can make a 302 will accept a 351 crank, rods and pistons if you want to make it bigger as the blocks are exactly the same :)
PhatArtz 1 year ago
@PhatArtz - Good to know.. I always knew in the 351 the Cleveland was larger but I didn't know the 302 had windsor or cleveland titles, thought it was simple just a 302. 351 heads are compatible with a 302 also aren't they ?
mixwell1983 1 year ago
@mixwell1983 No probs :) Yes, the heads are essentiially the same. Valve sizes etc are similar. There a 2v and 4v heads available, plus high flow 2v heads...it gets a little confusing, lol!
PhatArtz 1 year ago
@mixwell1983 351 windsor small block, looks like 302. Cleveland big block looks like 400.
Lvatopesado 1 year ago
@Lvatopesado now that i look @ it.. the engine looks pretty tiny in the engine bay... what a little beast though !!
mixwell1983 1 year ago
esta con madre tu nave carnal,
kenworht 2 years ago
loud fuel pump
KawiKZ400 2 years ago
um no, that would be the blower.
Holiver31 2 years ago
i have a 1979 f100, i want to know you dropped that bad boy?
quetzalorte 2 years ago
i think i just jizzed in my pants
71351F100 2 years ago
hi i like your truck sounds really good.
burrito333 3 years ago
Don't li sent to all them haters.. They jest hating because they probably drive a pinto...
piccudo 3 years ago
Bad ass truck...
piccudo 3 years ago
i love the truck but if your going to build a bad ass truck like that i would have put a blown 460 in it
bryanritchey 3 years ago
460 is better for working trucks and dragboats then drag trucks. Sure you can get a good amount of power from them but in the end they are heavy as hell.
wcsnoman 2 years ago
My first truck was a 79 yellow ford , same like yours, do you have more videos of the truck?
sanfernando 3 years ago
302 windsor?
What kind of crack are you on?
Windsor=351.
302 is just a small block.
ramguitar 3 years ago
You are wrong about that, there is a 302 Windsor block...
awgstwest 2 years ago 2
actually the windsor is the 351 isnt it?
VICTOR400HP 2 years ago
the windsor is the 221 260 289 302 351.
for the cleveland or 385 series you had a rare 302 and the 351
jay0173 2 years ago