Zenyatta was a star but certainly not the best t-bred ever. There are just too many better ones ahead of her. Where to start ....
Shame she didn't win her last race though That would possibly qualify as the biggest "heartbreaker" in racing history when she just lost the Breeder's Cup.
.. I am glad you mentioned Seabiscuit. If you look at his charts (racing history), he carried huge weight 129, 130, and 131 lbs. when his rivals carried a feather at 104, 108 or 110 lbs. And more often than not, he still beat them. He had a ton of talent and a ton of heart, that horse.
@TheExoticAnimal another great female to look up would be the passed australian racehorse "Wakeful" she is defenantly one of the greatest of all time, racing from 5 furlongs to 14 furlongs.... she was spectacular...
my list of greatest males are 1Secretariat, 2Phar Lap, 3Native Dancer, 4Man O War, 5Forego and for females its 1Wakeful, 2Fashion, 3Ruffian, 4Genuine Risk, 5Kincsem..... you might not have not heard of Wakeful, Fashion, or Kincsem.... but you should look them up, great females!
there isnt a horse that can be said to be "the best ever" but if there was ever one to come even close to that title, its the great mare Kinscem, she was all 54 of her race starts, across all of europe racing the best and toughest males and females in racing at that time, and kinscem is the most successfull racer in history
Line up Z with Man'O'War, Ruffian,Dr.Fager, Forego,Big Red,Affirmed,Alydar, Ghostzapper,Citation, and...Swaps. Best ever..no..one of the best..yes maybe.
Ok everyone listen I luv secretariat in all but he is based on time like all racehorses r but zenyatta she's also based on her time and her time may SEEM slow bc of her jockey holding her back until the final straight then she unleashes her power so u nvr no she could win
Zenyatta is not the best horse ever. look at her past performances over the years and most of the fillies and mares she beat where claimers and her 2009 Classic win was against dirt and turf horses on synthetic and her 2010 Classic win was against Blame, a horse we will all forget in a year or two.
All you Zen fans are completely delusional if you think she's comparable to the might Sec....not even close people! Sec set actual RECORDS...I say RECORDS in ALL 3 triple crown races including a 2:24 Belmont!!!!!! Zen never was, never is, and never will be comparable to Sec....not by a longshot:)
@indkeith yep but your secretariat lost 5 times. horse racing is not about time. every time is different. there is a thing called the PACE. u know nothing about horseracing.
oh yea, 19 in a row is a RECORD. so what do you mean she hasnt broken any records?... yeah and she had a dirty trip and still came back from 24 lengths behind to lose by 6 inches. yes, blame was the best horse zenyatta has faced, but blame didnt run away from her. she was catching him.
@sedro32 lmao...wtf??? dude you're a joke...stop the presses Zenyatta has broken that most cherished of all records by the immortal Peppers Pride...stop it man you're makin me cry:) Who cares about winning triple crowns and setting records in those races that have never been broken when you can top Peppers Pride..You're right I surrender. A hundred years from now they'll be takin bout the day Zenyatta overtook Peppers Pride and all the superhorses she beat to get there.
@indkeith A 2:24 Belmont by 31 lengths....BORING and MEH......Give me Zenyatta shattering Peppers Pride by a race....She did afterall slaughter much better horses than Sham...even though it was SLIGHTLY CLOSER than the Belmont
@indkeith I respectfully disagree with that statement. How is a world record-smashing victory into the immortality of the Triple Crown boring? And please don't disrespect Sham. Although Secretariat came ahead of him in the Kentucky Derby, Sham broke the track record, too. Zenyatta has beaten nothing close to a Sham. And I honestly doubt Zenyatta could even cover a mile and a half. Much less create a new world record or win by 31 lengths. Big Red would dominate Zenyatta, sorry.
Love everything about Zenyatta... The best mare I've seen in a generation, at least. But the best thoroughbred ever was the SUPERHORSE named SECRETARIAT. He is the standard by which all racehorses will forever be measured.
Zenyatta is one of the greatest thoroughbreds of our era. Man O' War will ALWAYS be viewed as the king. He was the grand daddy of the sport. As I understand it, Zenyatta has crossed blood lines with the Man O' War 7 times in her pedigree. That should tell you something.
@ksdemocrat9 Sorry, but Secretariat is the King. He would have beaten Man O'War. It's been proven. Secretariat holds the records. Hopefully, they will always stand. By the way, I had a horse that had both of these greats in her bloodlines... she was a wonderful athletic horse with a lot of attitude (may she RIP).
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comparison to Secretariat are laughable, her career does not hold a candle to 100 great horses of the past, shes a great filly no doubt but no one can say she is the btes. Oher horses have had much tougher careers and achieved alot more. End of story
Call me crazy but this horse is BETTER than Ruffian. Not to mention she could probably get Rachel. Rach was obviously in top form at the Woodward, and she barely hung on against Macho Again. If Macho ran that fast at the end, imagine how she would fair against Zenny here? This is just my own OPINION. Everyone has their own.
@ruffianrulz better than Ruffian? Do you really think this horse would Run a race with a broken leg and not care? Do you really think this horse would ever beat Ruffian? Ruffian was the greatest horse on the track! I love Zenyatta, but don't call her the first queen.
@haha10lolha Grrr. This is exactly why I said MY opinion. All racehorses don't feel their leg break because of the adrenaline. Besides, the same case with Ruffian is in the present day with Zenyatta. Freaks of nature vs. mediocre field. Still, both of these horses rank under my all time favorite: The forgotten Citation.
I am the best lover of Secretariat, but this beautiful creature has given me the best hope in life, we need to really appreciate all she has done for us. I am amazed by this creature, she is a miracle. May she continue to reign. Go Z!
Best horse ever??? Do you know more about racing that just the last two years? Secretariat set records and won races Zenyatta never did or will. Man O War,Ruffian,Kelso,Citation,etc,etc are way above her. She's a very good horse but no where close to the best.
How can people forget about horses like Secretariat, Seattle Slew, Cigar, Kelso, Forego, Citation, Man 'O War, etc.? Zen is great but these horses should not be forgotten. I think it's safe to say Zen is ONE of the greatest of our generation, but it would be a sin to forget about horses who won the TC, set world records that still stand, etc.
no one forgot...when you take into account consistency, class, physicality...Zenyatta stacks up with anryone...i titled the video best ever, so more people would look at it
I acknowlege her talent and consistency. However, Secretariat won the Triple Crown all in record times (no one has ever come within two seconds of 2:24) he won on turf, dirt, slop, numerous tracks. He had the most flawless physique ever, and he could win from last or from the front. His overall consistency, brilliance, and achievements on the track cannot be compared to Zenyatta's. That's my point, but again, in this day and age, Zen is one of the best.
I never thought I would see a horse as good as Dr. Fager but now Zenyatta is the best I seen in 57 years. Secretariat lost 4 races in less than a year and the media calls him the best ever, what a joke. The media knows nothing, their all a bunch of Bill Clinton white trash.
@2121421214.....You think just because Secretariat lost races that he was not better than Zenyatta? And you call the media a joke? Being undefeated while running against subpar competition now supercedes being HOY at age 2 and 3, setting world records that still stand today, winning the TC all in DEVASTATING times that still stand today, winning in the slop, and also being Champion grass horse? His accomplishments FAR EXCEED Zenyatta being undefeated vs subpar competition. You're the joke pal.
@larryzapeye You shouldn't even have to say it, Larry. Her body of work will speak for itself and ultimately no one in their right mind will deny her of one of the all-time greatest accolades. I always like your videos. Keep em comin.
@larryzapeye ill give you consistency, but lets be honest, its not hard to be consistent in the fillies division if your better than all the other fillies. Her form dosent stack up with anyone
Actually there was an even taller horse. One of my favorites, Rock Hard Ten. Physically one of the biggest horses to set foot on a racetrack. He was/Is 17.3 hands.
@rachelalexandra79 She has set a record that may never be broken.17-0 Larry is correct no one forgot....but in a word YES Zenyatta may be the best ever.....So sad you can't seem to just relax, stop squabbling about RA or Z and enjoy her too! It's sad. You're missing something truly special. Once in a lifetime!
@PerfectRoyalChampion.....Sorry but that's B.S. I appreciate what she has done relative to what she has faced. To say that she may be better than Secretariat is so stupid I won't even tolerate the discussion. if you can't appreciate what HE did then I feel sorry for you. NO knowledgable turf writer would claim she is better, You are minimizing the greatest of all time and I can't let that go. Allyou can say is 17-0, 17-0, 17-0. If Secretariat faced the likes of Briecat he would be undefeated too
@DBJKAJ ....No knowledgable horse racing fan or turf writer would agree with you. Your comment is pathetic as well as your logic. Zenyatta never had to endure anything even close to as grueling as the schedule Secretariat ran in 1973. With all the shipping, frequent racing, and smashing of track and world records, a horse can get sick. And Secretariat was suffering from a fever that day! Moron! I would shut my mouth if I were you, since Zenyatta has done NOTHING comparable to Big Red. Moron!
@rachelalexandra79 You need to check your facts and learn english! The words MAY BE implies just that may? Be? get it ? or is it to complicated for you. Secretariat was retired after his 3rd year. I know this because I am old enough to have seen him race in person. He was Awesome! However he is dead and gone. Zeny is STILL racing there is talk of her continueing next year with a light schedule. Can you appreciate that she is 6yrs. old? JS and Jm do what is best for her.Got it? will cont...
@rachelalexandra79 Who the hell do you think you are to say You will not tolerate it. Did all of us horse racing fans put you in charge to monitor what we feel?It is not stupid to say Z may be the best ever. She Is ALIVE and still racing her story remains unfinished...I cried when RA won the Preakness etc... but people like you have caused the mere mention of her name to make me want to vomit! Come what may Z's loyal fans will love her
@PerfectRoyalChampion If you think Zenyatta is better than Secretariat, then you are the one who needs therapy! It appears that you are allowed to think Zen is better than Secretariat and dismiss his still-standing world records, his TC, his Turf championship, his 2 HOY titles, etc. Your claims are unreasonable and unfounded. Furthermore, attacking my English is irrelevant, and you should check your grammar and spelling! When Z runs 1 1/2M in 2:24...come and talk to me.
@rachelalexandra79 we'r not forgetting them. we'r living in the present its time to apperciate the horses that are here and embrace their greatness before their gone too
ok when she wins the BC saturday, it will end her career at 20-0, 2 BC classic wins, and 1 BC Ladies Classic win, and the most predictable pattern of race style in every race she has ever run, and won. she is a machine. the Breeders Cup is WAY more competition than any triple crown race. these are all ages and best of the best around the world. the triple crown is just the best 3 year old north american horses. her resume is WAY better than any of the horses you said
@sedro32 Your comment that the BC is WAY more competition than any TC is beyond foolish. You know absolutely nothing about horse racing per your commentary. You are obviously nothing more than a wins and losses person. Please respond so that you can get an education.
@sedro32 hahahahahahahaha-lmao.....i should sue you for making me spit my pepsi on my keyboard:) dude....wtf are you on?????anyway, if you truly believe the idiocy you're spewing you should enroll in horseracing 101:)
@rachelalexandra79 ya beacuse Secretariat won the triple crown by 32 LEN.S(lenths) so I just saw your comment to her but ya dont forget about any fomus horses (sorry spelt that wrong dont care but anyway) I love all the fomous horses and I always will bye
Zenyatta will now get a chance to win more races in a row and the most money of any thoroughbred ever. Great decision by the Mosses and great for racing. Zenyatta will really bring the crowds to the track wherever she races.
best thoroughbred ever? thats a easy answer, HELL YES! lol shes amazing RA is ALMOST as good, but not quite as good as zenyatta, she will def. have to prove herself to win that title from zenyatta!
I personally believe Z would have run down and passed RA in the Woodward but that's something we'll never know for sure. Both distaffers are great racehorses and I'm looking forward to seeing RA as a 4yo. RA vs. Z could have been a great rivalry, especially with their radically different running styles but that had to happen this year, oh well. Life is Sweet and Careless Jewel can give RA a run for her money next year.
Everr? I don't think So..what about SECRETARIAT- PHAR LAP, Well before that It's look this Horse did not RUN in KENTUCKY DERBY- PREAKNESS and BELMONT to become BEST THOROUGHBREED EVER..Try to beat first RACHEL ALEXANDRA!
Hey sufenta67, how you liking her now? She will no doubt go into the history books as a legend in her own time. No filly has done what she has done and it will be many, many years before we ever see another Zenyatta.
PLEASE!!!!!! Best thoroughbred ever? How about all the Triple Crown winners, Forego, Kelso (HOY X 5 years), Cigar, Dr. Fager, Spectacular Bid just for starters. Not even the best TB this year.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. When I read the title of this video I had to laugh. Undeniably a beautiful animal but really now who has she beaten? Only two horses I can think of: Ginger Punch and Hysterical Lady. Two good females who have been beaten by others on numerous occasions. Most everything mentioned about Zenyatta's greatness is pure speculation.
What fraction R U talking about? The 22:49 last quarter that Zenyatta ran in the Hirsch? - LOL. Don't blame Z for her jockey's mistakes. Z would be a LOT faster on dirt as she proved in the Apple Blossom. I love RA too and if RA runs as a 4yo she will be even better. Nobody knows who would win until they look each other in the eye. Big Z loves having a target to run at, if the target goes fast, Z goes faster.
Gag. Nice try disguising your "Zen is ok but RA is better" sentiments. Remind me again, how many races has RA run vs won?
After meeting Zenyatta, courtesy of her gracious trainer, I can say yes, she belongs up there with the greats. Friendly, affectionate horse. Knows who she is and loves cameras too.
Do you not understand how fast the fractions were? The horses that tried to run at the pace RA was running at, disappeared. Zen would have had a hell of a time running down RA. She may have been able to do it, but it would have never been easy.
No, I didn't say that. But, Macho Again does has a pretty formidable closing kick, it doesn't matter whether it is better than Zenyatta's or not, it's pretty damn good. And Rachel held him off after going through suicidal fractions.
No, but like most Anabaa's she can run. How much of a "closing kick" do you think Macho Again would have at 8.5f if Rachael Alexandra had been allowed to canter the first 6f in 1:13.64 and AC was about a length off that pace.
RA is a very nice filly and deserves HOY as much as Z but for a deep closer to win at 8.5f behind a pace that slow is at least as remarkable as RA's game win in the Woodward after a really fast pace.
Great stuff as usual Larry! Thanks for the inside work looks. I can't get down there to watch them work locally right now, so it's nice to count on your page. Breeders' Cup is another story- I'll be front and center watching the great Zenyatta win again!
i really want to see a match race between RA and Zenyatta. Zenyatta will most likely win because she can stalk at pretty much any pace set by the leaders and still kick their butts. RA will take the lead nut won't have enough steam left to beat Zenyatta. Zenyatta can win and will win anything brought up against her
Zen would have blown right past RA. No question. RA never faced a field like that. At Zen's track there is no doubt. I hammered the win ticket on Zen in the Classic. If RA was there the odds would have been even better. check out youtube/pick6fix. jd
LOL Maybe you didn't notice...or you're just blind....but Summer Bird finished 4th at the Classic, he finished a couple of lenghts behind Zenyatta...and...
OH WAIT! Rachel DESTROY Summer Bird in the haskell.
She did, and Zenyatta spotted him 15 lengths for fun, then roared by him like a runaway train with her ears pricked. Poor Summer Bird. He'd be the star performer in a normal year...
Some other horse, darn I cant think of the name, beat Summer Bird by 6 while running alongside him all the way until the stretch when the horse, I believe it was a filly, stretched her lead over the field with every stride. Would you happen to know that horses name?
I love Zenyatta but does anyone know what is going on with I want Revenge? The last thing i read was about going to court with IEAH stables i hope he is doing better. If anyone knows anything differnt or how he is doing would you please message me thanks
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Lucyversion 1 month ago
zenyatta and sceptre
IrissMulaa 2 months ago
Notice how she stops to pose for the cameras :) and what a pose she strikes!!
horshooer 4 months ago
she's so photogetic
SIMHproductions 5 months ago
These horses ain't got nothing on the English ones.
KissandTellXD 5 months ago
LOL horses aren't feminine...
FrazzleAndTheWolf 6 months ago
Zenyatta was a star but certainly not the best t-bred ever. There are just too many better ones ahead of her. Where to start ....
Shame she didn't win her last race though That would possibly qualify as the biggest "heartbreaker" in racing history when she just lost the Breeder's Cup.
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TheExoticAnimal 6 months ago
@TheExoticAnimal
.. I am glad you mentioned Seabiscuit. If you look at his charts (racing history), he carried huge weight 129, 130, and 131 lbs. when his rivals carried a feather at 104, 108 or 110 lbs. And more often than not, he still beat them. He had a ton of talent and a ton of heart, that horse.
cheeriosinabowl 6 months ago
@cheeriosinabowl i agree
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RuffianQueenOfRacing 4 months ago
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@TheExoticAnimal another great female to look up would be the passed australian racehorse "Wakeful" she is defenantly one of the greatest of all time, racing from 5 furlongs to 14 furlongs.... she was spectacular...
my list of greatest males are 1Secretariat, 2Phar Lap, 3Native Dancer, 4Man O War, 5Forego and for females its 1Wakeful, 2Fashion, 3Ruffian, 4Genuine Risk, 5Kincsem..... you might not have not heard of Wakeful, Fashion, or Kincsem.... but you should look them up, great females!
RuffianQueenOfRacing 4 months ago
Wow all such beautiful horses but Zenyatta is definitely my favorite!! I wish I could meet her in person but there's no way that will ever happen
HorseJumper916 6 months ago
I am quite the fan of both RA and Z, but my favorite filly by far will always be Ruffian ^_^
randomrider92 7 months ago
the beautiful Zenyatta
raininghorse27 8 months ago
she is one of the best, but not the best.....
there isnt a horse that can be said to be "the best ever" but if there was ever one to come even close to that title, its the great mare Kinscem, she was all 54 of her race starts, across all of europe racing the best and toughest males and females in racing at that time, and kinscem is the most successfull racer in history
RuffianQueenOfRacing 8 months ago
Line up Z with Man'O'War, Ruffian,Dr.Fager, Forego,Big Red,Affirmed,Alydar, Ghostzapper,Citation, and...Swaps. Best ever..no..one of the best..yes maybe.
Nucleo85Torino 10 months ago
i love how she is like secretariat last to first and i also love how she sticked out her tongue but she isnt the BEST thoroughbred ever
storytime98 11 months ago
Ok everyone listen I luv secretariat in all but he is based on time like all racehorses r but zenyatta she's also based on her time and her time may SEEM slow bc of her jockey holding her back until the final straight then she unleashes her power so u nvr no she could win
whoatherepurplewhoaa 1 year ago
How on earth could that large person be exercising Title Dance?
sherry2862 1 year ago
Zenyatta is not the best horse ever. look at her past performances over the years and most of the fillies and mares she beat where claimers and her 2009 Classic win was against dirt and turf horses on synthetic and her 2010 Classic win was against Blame, a horse we will all forget in a year or two.
jamsid33 1 year ago 2
@jamsid33 true dat
indkeith 1 year ago
Do they really lip chain these horses just to give them baths???? How stupid....
terilynn8284 1 year ago
will zenyatta's trainer run her in the triple crown this year?
bballgirlmu1 1 year ago
Whatever the horse didnt like him anyway
taykyl001 1 year ago
she lost. uhg.
freekyhorselover1153 1 year ago
SECRETARIAT......... UMMMMM BY AS MUCH AS HE WANTED!!!!!
quiettman11 1 year ago
@quiettman11 haha...right on bro
indkeith 1 year ago
All you Zen fans are completely delusional if you think she's comparable to the might Sec....not even close people! Sec set actual RECORDS...I say RECORDS in ALL 3 triple crown races including a 2:24 Belmont!!!!!! Zen never was, never is, and never will be comparable to Sec....not by a longshot:)
indkeith 1 year ago 4
@indkeith yep but your secretariat lost 5 times. horse racing is not about time. every time is different. there is a thing called the PACE. u know nothing about horseracing.
oh yea, 19 in a row is a RECORD. so what do you mean she hasnt broken any records?... yeah and she had a dirty trip and still came back from 24 lengths behind to lose by 6 inches. yes, blame was the best horse zenyatta has faced, but blame didnt run away from her. she was catching him.
sedro32 1 year ago
@sedro32 lmao...wtf??? dude you're a joke...stop the presses Zenyatta has broken that most cherished of all records by the immortal Peppers Pride...stop it man you're makin me cry:) Who cares about winning triple crowns and setting records in those races that have never been broken when you can top Peppers Pride..You're right I surrender. A hundred years from now they'll be takin bout the day Zenyatta overtook Peppers Pride and all the superhorses she beat to get there.
indkeith 1 year ago
@indkeith A 2:24 Belmont by 31 lengths....BORING and MEH......Give me Zenyatta shattering Peppers Pride by a race....She did afterall slaughter much better horses than Sham...even though it was SLIGHTLY CLOSER than the Belmont
indkeith 1 year ago
@indkeith I respectfully disagree with that statement. How is a world record-smashing victory into the immortality of the Triple Crown boring? And please don't disrespect Sham. Although Secretariat came ahead of him in the Kentucky Derby, Sham broke the track record, too. Zenyatta has beaten nothing close to a Sham. And I honestly doubt Zenyatta could even cover a mile and a half. Much less create a new world record or win by 31 lengths. Big Red would dominate Zenyatta, sorry.
BackstretchUnderdog 1 year ago
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@BackstretchUnderdog dude.....i was being sarcastic......read all of my posts and you'll see what i mean
indkeith 1 year ago
@BackstretchUnderdog dude.....i was being sarcastic....read all of my comments....of course zenyatta isn't in the same league as secretariat
indkeith 1 year ago
@indkeith Oh, my apologies ha.
BackstretchUnderdog 1 year ago
@indkeith sorry you meant Record breaking Sham?.....ya that's what I thought. I hate that everyone is entitled to Ignorance.
Nucleo85Torino 10 months ago
Love everything about Zenyatta... The best mare I've seen in a generation, at least. But the best thoroughbred ever was the SUPERHORSE named SECRETARIAT. He is the standard by which all racehorses will forever be measured.
RAV52 1 year ago
"Z" loves her job!!!
crstardust 1 year ago
arnt girl throubreds not sposded to race?
gabbiedoglover11 1 year ago
hahah the head XD
gabbiedoglover11 1 year ago
Zenyatta isn't even the best thoroughbred of the decade // That honor goes to Ghostzapper
scrapguyone1 1 year ago
Rachel, and Ruffian then? Go For Wand? Sea Biscuit. i'm in love with zen and those horses.
xKIMKE 1 year ago
Zenyatta is one in a million, hope they all appreciate her! She has such class!!
horsedancer91 1 year ago
I think she's definitely the best mare in the history of racing.
ickiepoo 1 year ago
Zenyatta is one of the greatest thoroughbreds of our era. Man O' War will ALWAYS be viewed as the king. He was the grand daddy of the sport. As I understand it, Zenyatta has crossed blood lines with the Man O' War 7 times in her pedigree. That should tell you something.
ksdemocrat9 1 year ago
@ksdemocrat9 Sorry, but Secretariat is the King. He would have beaten Man O'War. It's been proven. Secretariat holds the records. Hopefully, they will always stand. By the way, I had a horse that had both of these greats in her bloodlines... she was a wonderful athletic horse with a lot of attitude (may she RIP).
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MrKenJohnson 1 year ago
Replace the ? With a .
Best. Thoroughbred. Ever.
Bloo445 1 year ago
comparison to Secretariat are laughable, her career does not hold a candle to 100 great horses of the past, shes a great filly no doubt but no one can say she is the btes. Oher horses have had much tougher careers and achieved alot more. End of story
ashleycolemobilefone 1 year ago 2
Best Throughbred mare ever
1ounascarfan 1 year ago
Call me crazy but this horse is BETTER than Ruffian. Not to mention she could probably get Rachel. Rach was obviously in top form at the Woodward, and she barely hung on against Macho Again. If Macho ran that fast at the end, imagine how she would fair against Zenny here? This is just my own OPINION. Everyone has their own.
ruffianrulz 1 year ago
@ruffianrulz better than Ruffian? Do you really think this horse would Run a race with a broken leg and not care? Do you really think this horse would ever beat Ruffian? Ruffian was the greatest horse on the track! I love Zenyatta, but don't call her the first queen.
haha10lolha 1 year ago
@haha10lolha Grrr. This is exactly why I said MY opinion. All racehorses don't feel their leg break because of the adrenaline. Besides, the same case with Ruffian is in the present day with Zenyatta. Freaks of nature vs. mediocre field. Still, both of these horses rank under my all time favorite: The forgotten Citation.
ruffianrulz 1 year ago
hey!! When a horse runs 1 1/2 in under 2:24 you can call it better than Big Red..
Larry love your stuff!!! How do you get so close to her??
horshooer 1 year ago
I am the best lover of Secretariat, but this beautiful creature has given me the best hope in life, we need to really appreciate all she has done for us. I am amazed by this creature, she is a miracle. May she continue to reign. Go Z!
8mmoore1 1 year ago
نتانت
systemkw 1 year ago
Indeed she has proven herself now :)
B3atleflute 1 year ago
It's like she knows exactly where the cameras are and stops at the right moment to let her fans capture the right picture :-)
AccentAigu05 1 year ago
Best horse ever??? Do you know more about racing that just the last two years? Secretariat set records and won races Zenyatta never did or will. Man O War,Ruffian,Kelso,Citation,etc,etc are way above her. She's a very good horse but no where close to the best.
BeetlesRock60 1 year ago
W00t love that big mare!
Horses4ever8 1 year ago 3
yep, shes the BEST HORSE EVER! RACHELS GOING DOWN!
breyer4life 1 year ago
too bad they never raced and never will =[
UnexpectedChild 1 year ago
How can people forget about horses like Secretariat, Seattle Slew, Cigar, Kelso, Forego, Citation, Man 'O War, etc.? Zen is great but these horses should not be forgotten. I think it's safe to say Zen is ONE of the greatest of our generation, but it would be a sin to forget about horses who won the TC, set world records that still stand, etc.
rachelalexandra79 1 year ago 19
no one forgot...when you take into account consistency, class, physicality...Zenyatta stacks up with anryone...i titled the video best ever, so more people would look at it
larryzapeye 1 year ago 10
Larry,
I acknowlege her talent and consistency. However, Secretariat won the Triple Crown all in record times (no one has ever come within two seconds of 2:24) he won on turf, dirt, slop, numerous tracks. He had the most flawless physique ever, and he could win from last or from the front. His overall consistency, brilliance, and achievements on the track cannot be compared to Zenyatta's. That's my point, but again, in this day and age, Zen is one of the best.
rachelalexandra79 1 year ago 4
I never thought I would see a horse as good as Dr. Fager but now Zenyatta is the best I seen in 57 years. Secretariat lost 4 races in less than a year and the media calls him the best ever, what a joke. The media knows nothing, their all a bunch of Bill Clinton white trash.
2121421214 1 year ago
@2121421214.....You think just because Secretariat lost races that he was not better than Zenyatta? And you call the media a joke? Being undefeated while running against subpar competition now supercedes being HOY at age 2 and 3, setting world records that still stand today, winning the TC all in DEVASTATING times that still stand today, winning in the slop, and also being Champion grass horse? His accomplishments FAR EXCEED Zenyatta being undefeated vs subpar competition. You're the joke pal.
rachelalexandra79 1 year ago
@larryzapeye You shouldn't even have to say it, Larry. Her body of work will speak for itself and ultimately no one in their right mind will deny her of one of the all-time greatest accolades. I always like your videos. Keep em comin.
Kostly 1 year ago
@larryzapeye ill give you consistency, but lets be honest, its not hard to be consistent in the fillies division if your better than all the other fillies. Her form dosent stack up with anyone
ashleycolemobilefone 1 year ago
@larryzapeye
Actually there was an even taller horse. One of my favorites, Rock Hard Ten. Physically one of the biggest horses to set foot on a racetrack. He was/Is 17.3 hands.
queenluciaa 1 year ago
@larryzapeye where is this? california?
hereHehereHE 1 year ago
@larryzapeye - Great Video Larry. I always liked Colonel John :)
Nucleo85Torino 10 months ago
@larryzapeye When it comes to the physic appearance, Secretariat was a standout for the ages ;-)
No he wasn't perfect in his carreer, but he won the triple crown in a most perfect way.
And who can forget his amazing Belmont win.
Put ANY horse in the world in that race with him, and he would totally destroy them.
Zenyatta doesn't stack up with the truly greats, she's earned a place in history yes, but a truly great she isn't.
diangofango 6 months ago
@rachelalexandra79 Zenyatta is Forego's niece.
patteel 1 year ago 2
@rachelalexandra79 She has set a record that may never be broken.17-0 Larry is correct no one forgot....but in a word YES Zenyatta may be the best ever.....So sad you can't seem to just relax, stop squabbling about RA or Z and enjoy her too! It's sad. You're missing something truly special. Once in a lifetime!
PerfectRoyalChampion 1 year ago
@PerfectRoyalChampion.....Sorry but that's B.S. I appreciate what she has done relative to what she has faced. To say that she may be better than Secretariat is so stupid I won't even tolerate the discussion. if you can't appreciate what HE did then I feel sorry for you. NO knowledgable turf writer would claim she is better, You are minimizing the greatest of all time and I can't let that go. Allyou can say is 17-0, 17-0, 17-0. If Secretariat faced the likes of Briecat he would be undefeated too
rachelalexandra79 1 year ago 2
@rachelalexandra79
Secretariat lost to Onion. That's pathetic. How can a horse run a mile and a half in 2:24 and then lose to Onion? Not good.
DBJKAJ 1 year ago
@DBJKAJ ....No knowledgable horse racing fan or turf writer would agree with you. Your comment is pathetic as well as your logic. Zenyatta never had to endure anything even close to as grueling as the schedule Secretariat ran in 1973. With all the shipping, frequent racing, and smashing of track and world records, a horse can get sick. And Secretariat was suffering from a fever that day! Moron! I would shut my mouth if I were you, since Zenyatta has done NOTHING comparable to Big Red. Moron!
rachelalexandra79 1 year ago
@rachelalexandra79 You need to check your facts and learn english! The words MAY BE implies just that may? Be? get it ? or is it to complicated for you. Secretariat was retired after his 3rd year. I know this because I am old enough to have seen him race in person. He was Awesome! However he is dead and gone. Zeny is STILL racing there is talk of her continueing next year with a light schedule. Can you appreciate that she is 6yrs. old? JS and Jm do what is best for her.Got it? will cont...
PerfectRoyalChampion 1 year ago
@rachelalexandra79 Who the hell do you think you are to say You will not tolerate it. Did all of us horse racing fans put you in charge to monitor what we feel?It is not stupid to say Z may be the best ever. She Is ALIVE and still racing her story remains unfinished...I cried when RA won the Preakness etc... but people like you have caused the mere mention of her name to make me want to vomit! Come what may Z's loyal fans will love her
so sorry it upsets you
You need therapy!
Really!
PerfectRoyalChampion 1 year ago
@PerfectRoyalChampion If you think Zenyatta is better than Secretariat, then you are the one who needs therapy! It appears that you are allowed to think Zen is better than Secretariat and dismiss his still-standing world records, his TC, his Turf championship, his 2 HOY titles, etc. Your claims are unreasonable and unfounded. Furthermore, attacking my English is irrelevant, and you should check your grammar and spelling! When Z runs 1 1/2M in 2:24...come and talk to me.
rachelalexandra79 1 year ago
@rachelalexandra79 Zenyatta is Forego's great niece. I will never forget Forego.
patteel 1 year ago
@rachelalexandra79 we'r not forgetting them. we'r living in the present its time to apperciate the horses that are here and embrace their greatness before their gone too
Horses4ever8 1 year ago
@rachelalexandra79
ok when she wins the BC saturday, it will end her career at 20-0, 2 BC classic wins, and 1 BC Ladies Classic win, and the most predictable pattern of race style in every race she has ever run, and won. she is a machine. the Breeders Cup is WAY more competition than any triple crown race. these are all ages and best of the best around the world. the triple crown is just the best 3 year old north american horses. her resume is WAY better than any of the horses you said
sedro32 1 year ago
@sedro32 Your comment that the BC is WAY more competition than any TC is beyond foolish. You know absolutely nothing about horse racing per your commentary. You are obviously nothing more than a wins and losses person. Please respond so that you can get an education.
bbmtge 1 year ago
@sedro32 hahahahahahahaha-lmao.....i should sue you for making me spit my pepsi on my keyboard:) dude....wtf are you on?????anyway, if you truly believe the idiocy you're spewing you should enroll in horseracing 101:)
indkeith 1 year ago
@rachelalexandra79 ya beacuse Secretariat won the triple crown by 32 LEN.S(lenths) so I just saw your comment to her but ya dont forget about any fomus horses (sorry spelt that wrong dont care but anyway) I love all the fomous horses and I always will bye
RelightAFire 1 year ago
The guy on Tidal Dance was not a very good rider. He didn't have a steady seat and had a bad case of swinging freely longer leg syndrome.
morganthedog1 2 years ago
She's coming back!! FABULOUS!!!
viking1938 2 years ago 2
Zenyatta will now get a chance to win more races in a row and the most money of any thoroughbred ever. Great decision by the Mosses and great for racing. Zenyatta will really bring the crowds to the track wherever she races.
keybender 2 years ago
I consider both of them freaks.(RA and Z)
Some people cannot. Too bad for them.
diomed1 2 years ago 13
She is the best of TODAY. I can name quite a lot of really good/great other horses though.
spam1237 2 years ago 6
It's almost like she's striking a pose for you lol
RuffianRunsForever16 2 years ago 2
The longer the track the better for Zen.
patteel 2 years ago
best thoroughbred ever? thats a easy answer, HELL YES! lol shes amazing RA is ALMOST as good, but not quite as good as zenyatta, she will def. have to prove herself to win that title from zenyatta!
ilovemartinjohnson11 2 years ago
I personally believe Z would have run down and passed RA in the Woodward but that's something we'll never know for sure. Both distaffers are great racehorses and I'm looking forward to seeing RA as a 4yo. RA vs. Z could have been a great rivalry, especially with their radically different running styles but that had to happen this year, oh well. Life is Sweet and Careless Jewel can give RA a run for her money next year.
keybender 2 years ago
The guy shooting this video needs a monopod.
avatarsound 2 years ago
Best TB ever? No. ONE of the best we've seen in a long, long time. Sure.
alspharmd 2 years ago 3
Everr? I don't think So..what about SECRETARIAT- PHAR LAP, Well before that It's look this Horse did not RUN in KENTUCKY DERBY- PREAKNESS and BELMONT to become BEST THOROUGHBREED EVER..Try to beat first RACHEL ALEXANDRA!
pennyondime95 2 years ago 2
Hey sufenta67, how you liking her now? She will no doubt go into the history books as a legend in her own time. No filly has done what she has done and it will be many, many years before we ever see another Zenyatta.
MrVonFulk1 2 years ago 3
PLEASE!!!!!! Best thoroughbred ever? How about all the Triple Crown winners, Forego, Kelso (HOY X 5 years), Cigar, Dr. Fager, Spectacular Bid just for starters. Not even the best TB this year.
sufenta67 2 years ago
She misses nothing! Those ears are saddlebred ears, not typical thoroughbred ears. She's built like a tank for a thoroughbred mare.
viking1938 2 years ago
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. When I read the title of this video I had to laugh. Undeniably a beautiful animal but really now who has she beaten? Only two horses I can think of: Ginger Punch and Hysterical Lady. Two good females who have been beaten by others on numerous occasions. Most everything mentioned about Zenyatta's greatness is pure speculation.
concretegaloshes 2 years ago
Not anymore.
Venckman 2 years ago
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L.O.L. if you think Zen best ever. The Bid would trounce this Horse by 15-25. For absolute fun!!!
Rachel eats Her for lunch.
We're talking two different animals.
If Moss thought He had the BEST horse, He would have been at the Woodward in a New York second.
Mike Smith begged Him not to go.
itsthegrip 2 years ago
missing del mar :( watching the old videos :) PS
Zenyatta is so stunning and ellegant :)
any videos from hollywood? I am not sure if you get up there or not?
lovedbysweetie 2 years ago
Zeny is so pretty! :) Its amazing to know that something that beautiful can be so powerful! :D
JockeyEgo 2 years ago 3
She is beautiful. She would be beautiful in defeat too. Rachel would eat those Clement Hirsch fractions ALIVE !!! She is beautiful tho.
jermocide22 2 years ago
Rachel would romp in the Beldame at 1 1/8 mile and the Moss's know this.
dubby300 2 years ago
What fraction R U talking about? The 22:49 last quarter that Zenyatta ran in the Hirsch? - LOL. Don't blame Z for her jockey's mistakes. Z would be a LOT faster on dirt as she proved in the Apple Blossom. I love RA too and if RA runs as a 4yo she will be even better. Nobody knows who would win until they look each other in the eye. Big Z loves having a target to run at, if the target goes fast, Z goes faster.
keybender 2 years ago 2
R.A. ran the last 1/4 in Wood. faster than the 1st 1/4.
LOL
itsthegrip 2 years ago
Zenyatta ran the last 1/4 faster than the 1st 1/4 14 times-LOL
keybender 2 years ago
Gag. Nice try disguising your "Zen is ok but RA is better" sentiments. Remind me again, how many races has RA run vs won?
After meeting Zenyatta, courtesy of her gracious trainer, I can say yes, she belongs up there with the greats. Friendly, affectionate horse. Knows who she is and loves cameras too.
mildnore 2 years ago
That Was ONE Race , If Zenyatta Ran The Woodward She Would Of Won Pretty Easy
ZenyattaLuver 2 years ago
Lol, that's hilarious.
Do you not understand how fast the fractions were? The horses that tried to run at the pace RA was running at, disappeared. Zen would have had a hell of a time running down RA. She may have been able to do it, but it would have never been easy.
sugarpuppy137 2 years ago
So you think Macho Again has a better closing kick than Zenyatta?
keybender 2 years ago
No, I didn't say that. But, Macho Again does has a pretty formidable closing kick, it doesn't matter whether it is better than Zenyatta's or not, it's pretty damn good. And Rachel held him off after going through suicidal fractions.
sugarpuppy137 2 years ago
So you think Anabaa's Creation is better than Macho Again?
icecorne 2 years ago
No, but like most Anabaa's she can run. How much of a "closing kick" do you think Macho Again would have at 8.5f if Rachael Alexandra had been allowed to canter the first 6f in 1:13.64 and AC was about a length off that pace.
RA is a very nice filly and deserves HOY as much as Z but for a deep closer to win at 8.5f behind a pace that slow is at least as remarkable as RA's game win in the Woodward after a really fast pace.
keybender 2 years ago
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Z is GREAT! Can't get enough of her!
Cybercissy1 2 years ago 2
Great stuff as usual Larry! Thanks for the inside work looks. I can't get down there to watch them work locally right now, so it's nice to count on your page. Breeders' Cup is another story- I'll be front and center watching the great Zenyatta win again!
Zenyattaisqueen 2 years ago
OMG She is so Beautiful!!! the look of Eagles. The best film of her close up I have seen. Rachel may be young but Z is beautiful.
SilverCharmForever 2 years ago 2
XDD I think you just like saying Zenyatta's name (Though it is quite fun to say)
I've always wanted to be a jockey but jumping got me hooked and steeple chasing seems too dangerous to me (Plus I'm a pony person lol)
Temporary433 2 years ago
i really want to see a match race between RA and Zenyatta. Zenyatta will most likely win because she can stalk at pretty much any pace set by the leaders and still kick their butts. RA will take the lead nut won't have enough steam left to beat Zenyatta. Zenyatta can win and will win anything brought up against her
Horseback4life 2 years ago
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Horseback you R clueless. Rachel wins by 20-30 lengths in a match race.
itsthegrip 2 years ago
Match Races Are Not Right , Whats The Point Of It
ZenyattaLuver 2 years ago
In match races, nearly all the time, it is the horse the leads throughout the race that wins.
sugarpuppy137 2 years ago
Zen would have blown right past RA. No question. RA never faced a field like that. At Zen's track there is no doubt. I hammered the win ticket on Zen in the Classic. If RA was there the odds would have been even better. check out youtube/pick6fix. jd
Pick6Fix 2 years ago
Even if RA had been 6 lengths in front? Like I said, she may have been able to do it, but she would have had a hell of a time doing it.
sugarpuppy137 2 years ago
LOL Maybe you didn't notice...or you're just blind....but Summer Bird finished 4th at the Classic, he finished a couple of lenghts behind Zenyatta...and...
OH WAIT! Rachel DESTROY Summer Bird in the haskell.
Alecramsay1227 2 years ago
She did, and Zenyatta spotted him 15 lengths for fun, then roared by him like a runaway train with her ears pricked. Poor Summer Bird. He'd be the star performer in a normal year...
Venckman 2 years ago 2
Some other horse, darn I cant think of the name, beat Summer Bird by 6 while running alongside him all the way until the stretch when the horse, I believe it was a filly, stretched her lead over the field with every stride. Would you happen to know that horses name?
getcreamed 2 years ago
duh fucker
ilovevsboy25 2 years ago
Great as always Larry!
redsox1079 2 years ago
awesome video zenyatta is like my favorite female racer now keep filming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
BeachMist13 2 years ago
Sounds like you've got another photographing sidekick. i can hear the shutter in the background
laurenpomeroy 2 years ago
Good video.
greyhorseazeri 2 years ago
Thanks for always bringing us the behind the scenes and up close personals with the horses...It's a real day maker.
ffaqueen08 2 years ago 3
I love Zenyatta but does anyone know what is going on with I want Revenge? The last thing i read was about going to court with IEAH stables i hope he is doing better. If anyone knows anything differnt or how he is doing would you please message me thanks
pavalko2303 2 years ago
Euroglide loooks great and Zenyatta is beautiful as always Thank you , you made my day with this video :)
lovedbysweetie 2 years ago 2
Hey Larry!!!!
THANK YOU FOR THE FOOTAGE OF LIFE IS SWEET!!!!!!
lovedbysweetie 2 years ago
i meant how not who.. sorry
Horseback4life 2 years ago
Aw She's The Best In My Eyes
=]
ZenyattaLuver 2 years ago
i love who she stroke a pose for you, she is so gorgeous
Horseback4life 2 years ago 2