I went to eclipse forums(mmorpg maker) and saw a topic:
"Hello!!! i have a great idea.. why dont we make it so that people without visual basic 6 can edit the game with vb8 or c++ or vb2010???? this is a great idea im gonna convert the game now"
This is so true, I use it to explain to noobs on forums what they are doing! It doesn't help, but I like to think that it plants a seed of doubt in their minds about whether they can do it...
shit now my eyes see weird. so basically what u are saying is before trying to make a game, learn c++ or c# or Python and we can have an idea or actually learn how to make a game?
I started making a MMORPG. 2D though, to keep it simple. nothing i want to make money on, just so i train myself in programing and maybe have a laugh at my drawing skills with my friends... i'm using Python - which is awesome, with a Pygame module. the client creates a socket with the server and sends him variables such as player position, health and so on... it works for now, but it's still under development. i have a different approach on making games: first the tools, and then the design.
i try to make a 3D mmorpg game ones but was stuck on a problem then players character just randomly swinged the weapons in any direction then they attacked
Dude that's funny as shit! Not to mention dead on accurate! Yup I've responded to posts like those over my 7 years of doing indie game development.
The funny thing is, I've just joined a team that's making an MMO, and the lead just sent me this video. That makes me laugh even harder. I wonder if he'll see this comment...
@FoxZero666 where is a good place to start? i plan on going to college but i need some practice... especially writing code, im horrible at it... if you could give a little advice it would be very helpful... i dont want to buy a "video game making kit", those usually suck and dont teach me anything
@wildboy789789 I would look up the UDK (Unreal Development Kit). It's free to use and has a big community behind it with lots of docs and tutorials made. It also includes a bunch of assets from Unreal Tournament 3 so you can peak at the scripts or modify them.
It's a great place to learn scripting, which I find much easier than coding. It's a nice start and I plan on eventually working with this kit to use Unreal Kismet.
I'm a writer and creative consultant for a couple of small game devs.
@wildboy789789 Good luck. I have a friend going to do the same thing, I thought about going to Devry for game design but I said fuck it because I hate math and the field is too volatile for me.
I'm trying to break into the industry as a writer though. More fun coming up with plots and characters than coding or modeling lol
@wildboy789789 If you don't like coding or math now, you never will like it. Perhaps try your hand at graphic arts and level design. As soon as I get my new rig I wanna mess with the UDK, nothing serious, I just wanna screw with the UT3 content.
@wildboy789789 I don't know. I thought about going to Devry, but what makes a school good is rather subjective. You'd have to do your research since various schools offer game design courses. Go visit them and see which one you like best.
It's an interesting field man. I'm only in the indy sector right now. There's little money here, but I like the creative freedom. With time and practice I hope to one day work as a writer for a major studio.
Although me and my team are indi developers and we're making an mmorpg.. Lol but we're not making anything that's "best" like so many mmorpg making noobs want to do.. We have basic graphics and small world, little content, but fun hack n' slash gameplay! :D
If anybody wants to make an mmorpg, i'm telling you as an expert in indie game development, start small. If it gets bigger let it, but dont expect some huge project from scratch. If the core game isnt fun theres no point..
Although Im also trying to do this, I think I can actully stick to my goal. Im starting to learn C++ and already ordered a second book which ties in with game programming. I understand how hard it is, however, the people who laughed at people who thought they could make Quake or Runescape are the ones probably playing those games right now. All Im trying to say is don't get discouraged by this video. Through HARD HARD HARD work, you can achieve your goals.
Yeah, that's the feeling most students get when they learn programming. The thing is, what you learned was probably DOS programming. First, get a good look at how Win32 programming looks like, then look into 3D APIs like DirectX or OpenGL. You'll eventually realize there's a lot of C++ involved to show just one triangle on the screen :D
@TheDoomWarrior Well, quite a few game engines out there are built using C or C++ graphics libraries - get yourself an engine like torque or nebula and you'll soon find how C++ is used in game creation. Don't bother trying to reinvent the wheel, you'll only end up banging your head against the wall if you try to create a 3D engine yourself. Free open source engines are a great way for the intermediate programmer to check out how it works under the hood.
[sarchasm] Okay i wana make a really cool game with the best graphics eva where u are like really cool marine and all is destrutable but i dont want to program or model [/sarchasm]
Ultima Online is ten times better. Your all real noobs until you play and get good at Ultima Online Second Age a real sandbox mmo. Check out my Ultima Online music videos.
So true...if there was a nickel for each one of those posts, haha. I'm a 3d-modeler myself (max/4d-cinema), and I couldn't even begin to grasp any programming beyond simple hitscan games, or basic games; it must be mind-boggling trying to make an rpg.
i tot this vdeo is trying to teach noobs(like me) to make game...i got a game on my mind but juz duno how to make it...T.T i'm 15 this yr(2009) btw...any1 can help me? i wan to make a detective game that follow the storyline & can choose char, talk,find clue, choose game mode or whateva needed for a the detective game in my mind...
Yeah i can help... Get C++, get Dark GDK, and Direct X 9 and then buy a book on how to use C++, then read the 841 pages in the book. then get a book on game developement, and read thos 800 pages. then start coding, making animation, sounds, and then BAM! you have yourself the game!
orr..... you can go the N00B way and use a cheap RPG maker. (but you will be known as a noob.)
Was somewhat like that guy when I was younger(13), except I began learning on my own.
I released the game a year later and had a great success, then it was running around a year and I shut it down. Was a lot of fun making patches, seeing the community grow and ofc the positive feedback.
If you got what it takes its possible, but my advice is to focus on the development and wait publishing it until its ready. If you release it too early you will no longer have the same focus on the development.
I'm not a noob with this stuff I've programmed computers before but if there was an easier way to program games I would do it because programming is hard as F***!!!!
Hello. I am a Game Designer myself (i write the codes) I am making a game now, i do the design and animation (tough animation could be better if someone else did, but i dont have anyone), and my friend makes the music. I also have a plan on paper for an online game, but that should be developed by professionals. If i ever have the money (i repeat: ever, it will probaly be: never), i will let those people create it. Do you have a website?
jeez your not going to be able to just jump into a project like that
the only way to get good at making games is to make games
you need to start small even if its just a simple text adventure using a linux shell script at least you got a start
trust me to anyone who wants to know dont just think your gonna wing it and look up how to program as you go, I've tried that and believe me the only way to go is to learn a simple language and make a simple 2d game to start
Lol im actualy working on a side scroller using flash profesional i already know how to use all the scripting in it properaly and so far its turning out to be waaaaay better then ms which is the most successful sidescroller... Fyi my first mmorpg. As for if i had someone do the scripting for a 3d game i could do the rest with 3ds max but it would look really shitty... Unless i spent like 3 years making it.
Not sure yet i need to find a decent server on the net... My freind was telling me about a few but yeh not really far enough in it to have to worry about it atm.
And i know what you meen i can make a monster or npc or shit like that in flash in like a half hour-hour but in 3d takes me like several hours. Oh annd i could be faster then a half hour but im working hard on perfection aswell so its not some gay ass easy to make looking gaphics like ms although they did a decent job on how theres that background behind where you play that moves which was kinda cool..
Ok, so you're gonna make an MMORPG... using Flash... you can't even figure out basic English... and you think you're gonna get somewhere? Oh, and then you use words like "gay" and "ass"? You're not going to get anywhere. Give it up, jesus christ.
Lmfao english is all i know so what if im not that good in school i mainly only pay attension in my computer classes considering thats where i want my career in... And just for the record flash is like the easiest program to use to make games and im fairly good with scripting on flash too although i think my freind is gunna help me out there... Already have good start on it so why the fuck would i stop know...
Uhm, you do reolise that collage will only exepct you with a minium of 4 GCSE grades Above C and you dont get that many in computer desighn and ICT.. No one will take you on without a Grade in English science and Maths if you really think you only need one thing like that as a career choice you're gunna be fucked for payin for collage seriosly thats if you get in. Pay attention in school.
Oh and if you think just causs i curse here and there im not gunna be sucessfull you must be 1 uptight loser... Just keep on thinking that you have to be some perfect child to do what you want in life causs your gunna end up orking yourself way to hard and fuck your own life up... Or become a doctor or something lmfao either way fucktard just causs someone isnt a some little know it all like yourself doesnt meen they cant make an mmo....
There's also some facts to consider : all current gen games are written in C++, and most if not all PC games (& all Xbox 360 games) use Visual Studio for the IDE. As for APIs, Xbox 360 uses a modified DX9, PS3 uses a modified GL, and most games on PC are on DX.
That's no the point... the point is languages, IDEs, etc.... are just tools and instead one should focus on processes regardless of tools.
For instance, the statement that 'all current gen games are written in C++' is neither completely accurate nor relevant. C++ merely amounts to a specific language which will inevitably imply specific idosincracies which are only relevant in terms of implementation. A directed graph, in contrast, will be a directed graph in any game in any language.
Did I say that ? I said "most" and "current gen", as for VS I said "PC & Xbox 360". And I don't count Flash here when I say "current gen", nor C# & XNA.
I haven't seen any official Nintendo docs but I think it's a modified GL, just like the PS3. I mean for DX you need microsoft approval while GL is available on every other platform/OS.
The Xbox (original) uses modified DirectX 8, while the 360 uses modified DirectX 9. You need a developer license to develop anything for the 360 (non-Arcade), which is about $10,000.
I know how to program in C++ and I'm a god in Photoshop. All that is lacking is the will. :P
I'll try to make a 3d game, the first few levels will work perfectly, then I'd quit developing it. I'm a lazy bastard, so I'll save my eyes the strain and stick to graphic design.
That is a real noob. All I know is some basic knowledge of 3ds max, programmed 2d games with QBASIC, know some visual basic, and thats about it. My first game was a simple maze game where you try to avoid tripping on alarms. Boys Quest Magazine encouraged me to program.
I recommend BYOND to any noob wanting to make an MMO. Why? Its simple, free, and the programmings relatively easy, but 10x easier then C++ or even python (Ive tried, but Im no OGRE project phailure). I only have one project that isnt this though, so even if I asked for help I wouldnt get it.
Everybody interested in making an mmorpg plz search how to make an mmorpg and it will say mmorpg noob guide lol you can't miss it it's the easiest way to make an mmorpg no talent involved, just time
i think that an order of learning in good way will be like that
1- learn game maker(do not DIRECTLY jump to 3d)
game maker builds a good idea of how games created ,, MUST-Go-THRU !
2- learn Dark basic
even if some programmers dosen't even count it as a game development language ,,it's still a good language that btw uses dx9.0c ,, have a big control and very wide used
3- learn c# XNA
this one is great too ^^ easy+makes games for pc and xbox360 + have a wide control (LOT more than DBP)
here u moved to final step ^^ i think after this u'll be ready here to be applied to konami(just also learn Visual basic =] cause most of companies asks for knowing C++ , Java and VB)
iam just 13 and iam advancing in 3rd+4th step
i must be a genius XDD .. not
loooool ^^
this whole thing will take u maybe .. a year and a half?( IF U HAVE TALENT !) but good result at the end ^^
game maker is good as a start =],, the GML also is maybe one of the best starting points to train u for programming games with codes ^^ ,,
i think the three u putted are maybe the best start for 2d programming ,, however,,
Flash is not as good as game maker ,, game maker's performance is better ,, i recommend u learn MS C# xna next ^^ it's called "managed directX" it's easy =] and will let u get used to coding C++ ,, and let u make games for pc , xbox360 so easy =]
Thank you for making this video. I have friends that are now trying to start java because they think they are going to make a game like crysis with engines that do all the work for you. I've been trying to make a online 3d game in java for about 7 months. After 7 months I am now starting to grasp it.
After 7 months of programming I barely had a 3D mini-demo with characters made up of textured quads. But hey, I didn't used Open Source engines, actually I didn't even knew they existed (i had almost no internet connection & no gamedev-oriented friends).
You say you have "mastered" C++ sspoke, why not show us something of what you have done with the language. It sounds like your just spewing out shit with no facts; go to my youtube channel, and you'll see the link to my website on which I host all of my programs and games that I have made.
By the way, your English sucks. Sorry if it's not your first language. And if it is, Good luck
I wrote this in a very sleep deprived state of mind, so don't take anything too serious.
Ha lol, it very well might be. I try not to start youtube fights because they're off-topic and generally not very productive, but I feel strongly about what it takes to program. I think I'll retire though from this "would-be" fight.
Later all; Good luck sspoke, I hope you prove me wrong (lol)
And sspoke, from that last comment it's clear you know nothing of game programming nor any other sort of programming. It is simply clear you have never programmed anything useful in your life.
Lol I consider my self as one of the best programmers there are.. im a this type of level where you learn everything and you pretty much just get bored of programming and want to quit.. i wouldnt make a game it requires too much :p I'd get a engine and work of it ;) I know C++ and assembly and I've started from QBASIC when I was 13 or so and then picked up C and now mastered C++.
bro its obvious if your making a game ur gonna steal models from other games whats the odds of you actually making em like 1 in a million.. cuz its hard work
Nothing hard in programing if u cant do that you don't deserve to make a game!
cuz programming is only a few commands you have to learn like whats IF statement whats loop and how to call built in functions from 3d engines! once you do that your a pro programmer pretty much.
Lets say you trying to make it online you have a server pre-built that sends packets to differnet player ID's lets say you kill someone
I know C++ programming for 5 years now sicne I was 15 years old.. and 2 years ago I started to learn assembly now.. making games.. is too much work..
I program.. not games.. but something I find interest in.. most like hooks for games.. i hook popular MMORPG game functions to pretty much get control of the game before the packets get encrypted I make bots for that game.. and every now and then I get lucky :p and find dupes,exploits you name it ;P
nice video =) hehe love it I have nothing against noobs, actually I like to help them but it's kind of annoying when a newbie ask some question like "how can I make an MMORPG it will be the best MMORPG ever" start small =)
i think the quickest game i ever made was in 30 minutes... Can ya tell it sucked?
it was a rip off of pong that i made where if the other player hit's the ball it makes like 50 billion balls appear and tells you that player (somthing between 1 and 99) won.
well im trying to learn C++ cause im going to Devry university to study gaming and simulation programing , AND ITS HARD AS HELL , its like a marcian language lol
Wow this is a problem because many people that were noobs have created mmorpgs. There are also free programs that create 2d mmos and there are expensive ones for 3d mmos.
LOL! learn some C then python then C++, read the forums of hacksites and internet security you can find it all in google if you really want to stop being noobs.
Well if you want to make a sweet ass game but dont want to wast much time use fps creator x10, with this you can make first personm shooting games and play them online with friends.
1. I translated the whole speech on the description if you can't understand what he's saying
2. I assume you're the kind of guy that still doesn't know how much effort is put into a game, much like the dude in the video, except you don't plan on making a game.
Look at the credits of a modern game. You'll see 100+ people that are not at their first project.
2. I have done debugging for games and some software. It's a pain. It's long and tedious and can take up hours upon hours of your day... I just fail to see the humor in this.
The humor is that everyone has this great idea about making THE GREATEST GAME EVER, but neglect the stelar amounts of work needed to do something like that because they assume it's simple.
Dude, we're not criticizing people that try to make games like myself & others, but people that want to make games and have absolutely no gamedev skill at all. They eventually realize it's terribly hard, then ask for others to do the game while they boss them around.
I think it is easy to understand why so many people hate this video .. people hate the truth.
TionyMarr 3 weeks ago 2
Learn C#, learn how to create a simple server and client console pair.
Use OpenTK with C# to draw 2D quad textures to a screen, and log inputs pressed while inside the application. (AKA Left, Right, Up... etc)
Allow one of the textures (A Red box) to move according to inputs
Now create another box that moves according to the second inputs
Use the Server app inside the FormWindow, and map the other player to the sent inputs from the client. This should be arbitrary
It's not pretty, but basic
LaVivaGan 1 month ago
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LaVivaGan 1 month ago
that would be one dumb game
sipher100 1 month ago
what the hell is wrong with this video?
valentinus23 4 months ago
I went to eclipse forums(mmorpg maker) and saw a topic:
"Hello!!! i have a great idea.. why dont we make it so that people without visual basic 6 can edit the game with vb8 or c++ or vb2010???? this is a great idea im gonna convert the game now"
hahaha everyone trolled him
lurviQ 5 months ago
This is so true, I use it to explain to noobs on forums what they are doing! It doesn't help, but I like to think that it plants a seed of doubt in their minds about whether they can do it...
Flyingfirepig 5 months ago
theres a "company" called rocket planet thats like this!
idiotcomic 6 months ago
I wasn't like this! I started on something easy, and thought "I will make the worst game ever" People are still laughing about it today.
Flyingfirepig 6 months ago
this happens at least serveral times a week on game dev forums
DaFleegsta 6 months ago
slight correction in the transcript, should be "This game will _rule_, it will be THE BEST GAME EVER !!"
yuriythebest 7 months ago
cool video!
yuriythebest 7 months ago
shit now my eyes see weird. so basically what u are saying is before trying to make a game, learn c++ or c# or Python and we can have an idea or actually learn how to make a game?
9kiko90 7 months ago
lol bender 3d
Crazymecrazy12 9 months ago
lol this is a real life problem!
vhmbdc 11 months ago
I started making a MMORPG. 2D though, to keep it simple. nothing i want to make money on, just so i train myself in programing and maybe have a laugh at my drawing skills with my friends... i'm using Python - which is awesome, with a Pygame module. the client creates a socket with the server and sends him variables such as player position, health and so on... it works for now, but it's still under development. i have a different approach on making games: first the tools, and then the design.
h333333333h 1 year ago
Are you serieus about this ?
StuffTutorials 1 year ago
Excellent !
WorldOfAlezia 1 year ago
I would SOOO play that game!!
DaFleegsta 1 year ago
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rpglover24 1 year ago
@rpglover24 bad idea man :/
HamsterLoad 8 months ago
That used to be me :-P
GCGGAMES 1 year ago
whahaha this one looks like me whaahha lol this video that guy that is me !!!!!!
YourSoundCalls 1 year ago
DAS IST DIE GAMEFORGE :D
SuperCMKO 1 year ago
i didnt understand what is he saying
nissan3042 1 year ago
i try to make a 3D mmorpg game ones but was stuck on a problem then players character just randomly swinged the weapons in any direction then they attacked
MoonWerewolf 1 year ago
Realm Crafter
mikeymike77123 1 year ago
Dude that's funny as shit! Not to mention dead on accurate! Yup I've responded to posts like those over my 7 years of doing indie game development.
The funny thing is, I've just joined a team that's making an MMO, and the lead just sent me this video. That makes me laugh even harder. I wonder if he'll see this comment...
FoxZero666 1 year ago
@FoxZero666 where is a good place to start? i plan on going to college but i need some practice... especially writing code, im horrible at it... if you could give a little advice it would be very helpful... i dont want to buy a "video game making kit", those usually suck and dont teach me anything
wildboy789789 1 year ago
@wildboy789789 I would look up the UDK (Unreal Development Kit). It's free to use and has a big community behind it with lots of docs and tutorials made. It also includes a bunch of assets from Unreal Tournament 3 so you can peak at the scripts or modify them.
It's a great place to learn scripting, which I find much easier than coding. It's a nice start and I plan on eventually working with this kit to use Unreal Kismet.
I'm a writer and creative consultant for a couple of small game devs.
FoxZero666 1 year ago
@FoxZero666 thanks a bunch... maybe this will give me a head start for game design trade school :)
wildboy789789 1 year ago
@wildboy789789 Good luck. I have a friend going to do the same thing, I thought about going to Devry for game design but I said fuck it because I hate math and the field is too volatile for me.
I'm trying to break into the industry as a writer though. More fun coming up with plots and characters than coding or modeling lol
FoxZero666 1 year ago
@FoxZero666 i HATE codeing, but i love designing stuff on the graph afterwards... the UDK is fun
wildboy789789 1 year ago
@wildboy789789 If you don't like coding or math now, you never will like it. Perhaps try your hand at graphic arts and level design. As soon as I get my new rig I wanna mess with the UDK, nothing serious, I just wanna screw with the UT3 content.
Anyways good luck with whatever you pursue.
FoxZero666 1 year ago
@FoxZero666 this is definately what i want to do for a career... UKD is awesome... whats a good design school? should i try ITT tech?
wildboy789789 1 year ago
@wildboy789789 I don't know. I thought about going to Devry, but what makes a school good is rather subjective. You'd have to do your research since various schools offer game design courses. Go visit them and see which one you like best.
It's an interesting field man. I'm only in the indy sector right now. There's little money here, but I like the creative freedom. With time and practice I hope to one day work as a writer for a major studio.
FoxZero666 1 year ago
LoL this is true! :D
Nice video :P
Blander14 1 year ago
I'm practicing with programming and 3d modeling, It's relatively easy for me to understand it and work at it.
richgrow21 1 year ago
Lol guys this is a joke
Luvinhas 1 year ago
this guy needs to go to speech class holy shit i can't understand him.
ShanusMaximus4332 1 year ago
Haha almost everyone that commented on this is just like the guy in the vid.
AbartsWorld 1 year ago
he is not a noob.... HE IS A CHINESE NOOB!!!
JustAtyper 1 year ago
I don't normally leave comments, but this was the single most biggest piece of visual bollox I have ever had undubious fortune to witness
Mon39 1 year ago
Bad voice acting xD
cheat12code 1 year ago
Lol so true XD
Although me and my team are indi developers and we're making an mmorpg.. Lol but we're not making anything that's "best" like so many mmorpg making noobs want to do.. We have basic graphics and small world, little content, but fun hack n' slash gameplay! :D
If anybody wants to make an mmorpg, i'm telling you as an expert in indie game development, start small. If it gets bigger let it, but dont expect some huge project from scratch. If the core game isnt fun theres no point..
1337BOXdotWEBSdotCOM 1 year ago
This video made me laugh =)
Although Im also trying to do this, I think I can actully stick to my goal. Im starting to learn C++ and already ordered a second book which ties in with game programming. I understand how hard it is, however, the people who laughed at people who thought they could make Quake or Runescape are the ones probably playing those games right now. All Im trying to say is don't get discouraged by this video. Through HARD HARD HARD work, you can achieve your goals.
Soap360 1 year ago
CABAL ONLINE FTW
spongkielamot 1 year ago
@spongkielamot yessir!
Anisky12 1 year ago
trust me its hard to make a good mmo
kariukarys 1 year ago
I recently started learning C++.... I understand it (I think),but I don't really see how it ties in with making games.
TheDoomWarrior 2 years ago 6
Yeah, that's the feeling most students get when they learn programming. The thing is, what you learned was probably DOS programming. First, get a good look at how Win32 programming looks like, then look into 3D APIs like DirectX or OpenGL. You'll eventually realize there's a lot of C++ involved to show just one triangle on the screen :D
cippyboy 2 years ago 10
@cippyboy Agreed
GCGGAMES 11 months ago
@TheDoomWarrior Well, quite a few game engines out there are built using C or C++ graphics libraries - get yourself an engine like torque or nebula and you'll soon find how C++ is used in game creation. Don't bother trying to reinvent the wheel, you'll only end up banging your head against the wall if you try to create a 3D engine yourself. Free open source engines are a great way for the intermediate programmer to check out how it works under the hood.
StephenWebb1980 1 year ago
Noob
Psyraq 2 years ago
u rallly a noob even to animation , watch out when u flip a image
dipeshgoku 2 years ago
[sarchasm] Okay i wana make a really cool game with the best graphics eva where u are like really cool marine and all is destrutable but i dont want to program or model [/sarchasm]
dvdhny 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Ultima Online is ten times better. Your all real noobs until you play and get good at Ultima Online Second Age a real sandbox mmo. Check out my Ultima Online music videos.
987654321Tiger 2 years ago
@987654321Tiger
that has nothing to do with this spammers, now nobody will watch, and if we do we would rate low
ninjaguru17 1 year ago
So true...if there was a nickel for each one of those posts, haha. I'm a 3d-modeler myself (max/4d-cinema), and I couldn't even begin to grasp any programming beyond simple hitscan games, or basic games; it must be mind-boggling trying to make an rpg.
Thepiratejoe 2 years ago
gurkenhasser ich hasse dich auch
bin gurkenmaster ha
depri mmorpg ist besser
ihrseiddoof1 2 years ago
Ne des kann ich mir net länger als 30 Sekunden ansehn....
1. die nicht vorhandenen Animationen
2. der nicht vorhandene Humor
3. DIE STIMME!! AAAAAARGH
Hanfgurkenhasser 2 years ago
i tot this vdeo is trying to teach noobs(like me) to make game...i got a game on my mind but juz duno how to make it...T.T i'm 15 this yr(2009) btw...any1 can help me? i wan to make a detective game that follow the storyline & can choose char, talk,find clue, choose game mode or whateva needed for a the detective game in my mind...
makwaisanmelissa 2 years ago
Yeah i can help... Get C++, get Dark GDK, and Direct X 9 and then buy a book on how to use C++, then read the 841 pages in the book. then get a book on game developement, and read thos 800 pages. then start coding, making animation, sounds, and then BAM! you have yourself the game!
orr..... you can go the N00B way and use a cheap RPG maker. (but you will be known as a noob.)
NOVS12 2 years ago
Oh mein gott!
So stell ich mir die macher von dark orbit for.^^
Mangafreak20 2 years ago 19
@Mangafreak20
alda genau das gleiche dachte ich auch xD
Slithermotion 1 year ago
this sucks
o0okierano0o 2 years ago
Was somewhat like that guy when I was younger(13), except I began learning on my own.
I released the game a year later and had a great success, then it was running around a year and I shut it down. Was a lot of fun making patches, seeing the community grow and ofc the positive feedback.
If you got what it takes its possible, but my advice is to focus on the development and wait publishing it until its ready. If you release it too early you will no longer have the same focus on the development.
andreazoj 2 years ago
what did u use to makeit?
Smuczerproductions 2 years ago
So true, I have been game making for 3 years now, and am about to start an MMORPG, those n00bs just don't get it!
khjuiproductions 2 years ago
I'm not a noob with this stuff I've programmed computers before but if there was an easier way to program games I would do it because programming is hard as F***!!!!
piperpit80 2 years ago
Hello. I am a Game Designer myself (i write the codes) I am making a game now, i do the design and animation (tough animation could be better if someone else did, but i dont have anyone), and my friend makes the music. I also have a plan on paper for an online game, but that should be developed by professionals. If i ever have the money (i repeat: ever, it will probaly be: never), i will let those people create it. Do you have a website?
SaMyZeR 2 years ago
I didnt understand A word that weird fucking gay fag said for the whole Fucking video. XD
googleman37 2 years ago 20
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cippyboy 2 years ago
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AbartsWorld 2 years ago
why does this have 3 stars=?
masterathedark 2 years ago
Someone rated it too high.
ZukaROBLOX 2 years ago
lol
masterathedark 2 years ago
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THATS NOT A N00b THATS A GEEK!!!!and EVERYONE knows that geeks are automaticly classified as the best in the game..
fakepass2 2 years ago
You're not too bright, little one.
ZukaROBLOX 2 years ago
lol
AcrazedFFfan 2 years ago
jeez your not going to be able to just jump into a project like that
the only way to get good at making games is to make games
you need to start small even if its just a simple text adventure using a linux shell script at least you got a start
trust me to anyone who wants to know dont just think your gonna wing it and look up how to program as you go, I've tried that and believe me the only way to go is to learn a simple language and make a simple 2d game to start
any way thats my two cents
flippinrogue 2 years ago
Lol im actualy working on a side scroller using flash profesional i already know how to use all the scripting in it properaly and so far its turning out to be waaaaay better then ms which is the most successful sidescroller... Fyi my first mmorpg. As for if i had someone do the scripting for a 3d game i could do the rest with 3ds max but it would look really shitty... Unless i spent like 3 years making it.
SWED4LlFE 2 years ago
good idea staying away from 3d, UV mapping and texturing is extremely tedious and boring.
out of curiosity who are you going to get to host your game (unless its yourself)
flippinrogue 2 years ago
Not sure yet i need to find a decent server on the net... My freind was telling me about a few but yeh not really far enough in it to have to worry about it atm.
SWED4LlFE 2 years ago
And i know what you meen i can make a monster or npc or shit like that in flash in like a half hour-hour but in 3d takes me like several hours. Oh annd i could be faster then a half hour but im working hard on perfection aswell so its not some gay ass easy to make looking gaphics like ms although they did a decent job on how theres that background behind where you play that moves which was kinda cool..
SWED4LlFE 2 years ago
Ok, so you're gonna make an MMORPG... using Flash... you can't even figure out basic English... and you think you're gonna get somewhere? Oh, and then you use words like "gay" and "ass"? You're not going to get anywhere. Give it up, jesus christ.
ZukaROBLOX 2 years ago
Lmfao english is all i know so what if im not that good in school i mainly only pay attension in my computer classes considering thats where i want my career in... And just for the record flash is like the easiest program to use to make games and im fairly good with scripting on flash too although i think my freind is gunna help me out there... Already have good start on it so why the fuck would i stop know...
SWED4LlFE 2 years ago
Uhm, you do reolise that collage will only exepct you with a minium of 4 GCSE grades Above C and you dont get that many in computer desighn and ICT.. No one will take you on without a Grade in English science and Maths if you really think you only need one thing like that as a career choice you're gunna be fucked for payin for collage seriosly thats if you get in. Pay attention in school.
xFierceDeityLinkx 2 years ago 2
Oh and if you think just causs i curse here and there im not gunna be sucessfull you must be 1 uptight loser... Just keep on thinking that you have to be some perfect child to do what you want in life causs your gunna end up orking yourself way to hard and fuck your own life up... Or become a doctor or something lmfao either way fucktard just causs someone isnt a some little know it all like yourself doesnt meen they cant make an mmo....
SWED4LlFE 2 years ago
Oh and i dont care to spell check or any shit like that so my english is probably better then it appears in my messages...
SWED4LlFE 2 years ago
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AbartsWorld 2 years ago
NOT Bender3d lol Blender 3d XD im using 3d max though D:
LilJayz2 2 years ago
HAHAHA this made me laugh, this is exactly what happened for me. Rofl HAHAHA
MouthofSaurons 2 years ago
I keep seeing how people give advice on how to become a 'game programmer' by suggesting specific languages, IDEs, APIs and whatnot..
the only true advice is: study computer science. After you are done with CS, it doesn't really matter what specific language or tool you use.
saldatube 3 years ago
There's also some facts to consider : all current gen games are written in C++, and most if not all PC games (& all Xbox 360 games) use Visual Studio for the IDE. As for APIs, Xbox 360 uses a modified DX9, PS3 uses a modified GL, and most games on PC are on DX.
cippyboy 3 years ago
That's no the point... the point is languages, IDEs, etc.... are just tools and instead one should focus on processes regardless of tools.
For instance, the statement that 'all current gen games are written in C++' is neither completely accurate nor relevant. C++ merely amounts to a specific language which will inevitably imply specific idosincracies which are only relevant in terms of implementation. A directed graph, in contrast, will be a directed graph in any game in any language.
saldatube 3 years ago
You seriously think all games are written in C++ on VS?
RyanPridgeon 2 years ago
Did I say that ? I said "most" and "current gen", as for VS I said "PC & Xbox 360". And I don't count Flash here when I say "current gen", nor C# & XNA.
cippyboy 2 years ago
What API does Nintendo Wii/ gamecube use?
KennelTube 2 years ago
I haven't seen any official Nintendo docs but I think it's a modified GL, just like the PS3. I mean for DX you need microsoft approval while GL is available on every other platform/OS.
cippyboy 2 years ago
The Xbox (original) uses modified DirectX 8, while the 360 uses modified DirectX 9. You need a developer license to develop anything for the 360 (non-Arcade), which is about $10,000.
ZukaROBLOX 2 years ago
o man this is so true a noob plays wow then wants to make a full fledged mmo business lolzor
jacobtb1 3 years ago
hahaha! That's funny, though the guy is like me^^
Vendtetta 3 years ago
I know how to program in C++ and I'm a god in Photoshop. All that is lacking is the will. :P
I'll try to make a 3d game, the first few levels will work perfectly, then I'd quit developing it. I'm a lazy bastard, so I'll save my eyes the strain and stick to graphic design.
ac120479 3 years ago
haha, oh, you too XD
it's very frustrating when you have the skill but not the will :/
SolidshakeProduction 3 years ago
That is a real noob. All I know is some basic knowledge of 3ds max, programmed 2d games with QBASIC, know some visual basic, and thats about it. My first game was a simple maze game where you try to avoid tripping on alarms. Boys Quest Magazine encouraged me to program.
would you consider me a noob?
spartasoldier300 3 years ago
Being a noob is not a bad thing. Thinking you can do an MMO/contemporary game all on your own or with a team of amateurs is a pretty noobish thought.
cippyboy 3 years ago
That guy thinks he can make a mmo as his first game. Can he even make a 2d rpg by himself? And plus how is he going to run a massive server?
spartasoldier300 3 years ago
I can do C++ So I can do MMO! I just need to kno how to spawn mostar.
KensaimasterWung 3 years ago
have you ever used XNA gamemaker with theC++ programing script? Now that's real game making!!
piperpit80 2 years ago
So does they both cost? ;) Or are both free? BTW i know what C++ is but not if its free or not :P
baltross 2 years ago
not very exciting...
iCheckVtec 3 years ago
I think that guy is gonna be rich from his game!
andydragoon121 3 years ago
I recommend BYOND to any noob wanting to make an MMO. Why? Its simple, free, and the programmings relatively easy, but 10x easier then C++ or even python (Ive tried, but Im no OGRE project phailure). I only have one project that isnt this though, so even if I asked for help I wouldnt get it.
ImagineerGenoFilmLtd 3 years ago
I'm starting small :P I just started making a MMOCC (massive-multiplayer-online-chat-community) in DX9. It's 2D, but still, a nice start.
AbartsWorld 3 years ago
Errm... That wasn't exactly exciting
fleshbane2 3 years ago
For you ? probably. I laughed out loud for the first 30-50 times I saw the clip :D
cippyboy 3 years ago
Me too :D. I like it, and it set me straight on my WAY to over ambishous project!
ImagineerGenoFilmLtd 3 years ago
Yuri knows what the shit he is talking about
Aiursrage2k 3 years ago
Everybody interested in making an mmorpg plz search how to make an mmorpg and it will say mmorpg noob guide lol you can't miss it it's the easiest way to make an mmorpg no talent involved, just time
Michaelissocoollike 3 years ago
this is boring
Jaxonguitar 3 years ago
ummmm,,
i think that an order of learning in good way will be like that
1- learn game maker(do not DIRECTLY jump to 3d)
game maker builds a good idea of how games created ,, MUST-Go-THRU !
2- learn Dark basic
even if some programmers dosen't even count it as a game development language ,,it's still a good language that btw uses dx9.0c ,, have a big control and very wide used
3- learn c# XNA
this one is great too ^^ easy+makes games for pc and xbox360 + have a wide control (LOT more than DBP)
mody1710 3 years ago
4- learn C++ with directX or java
here u moved to final step ^^ i think after this u'll be ready here to be applied to konami(just also learn Visual basic =] cause most of companies asks for knowing C++ , Java and VB)
iam just 13 and iam advancing in 3rd+4th step
i must be a genius XDD .. not
loooool ^^
this whole thing will take u maybe .. a year and a half?( IF U HAVE TALENT !) but good result at the end ^^
mody1710 3 years ago
i just started making games with gamemaker(i have vids of them on my profile) but i was thinking of going
1gamemaker
2flash
3C++ and some game engine that uses that
josephohsnap 3 years ago
game maker is good as a start =],, the GML also is maybe one of the best starting points to train u for programming games with codes ^^ ,,
i think the three u putted are maybe the best start for 2d programming ,, however,,
Flash is not as good as game maker ,, game maker's performance is better ,, i recommend u learn MS C# xna next ^^ it's called "managed directX" it's easy =] and will let u get used to coding C++ ,, and let u make games for pc , xbox360 so easy =]
Good luck~ ^^
mody1710 3 years ago
thanks for the help
josephohsnap 3 years ago
After learning GML you should think about learning Delfi. A good compiler is Lazarus (believe it's spelled like that).
Delfi is a bit more advanced (in my opinion) but it's "powerfuler" too.
(GML is based on Delfi)
//Wyxton
Wyxton 3 years ago
I jumped directly to 3d.
Xarimaru 3 years ago
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You must be a computer prodedgy...
ImagineerGenoFilmLtd 3 years ago
Thank you for making this video. I have friends that are now trying to start java because they think they are going to make a game like crysis with engines that do all the work for you. I've been trying to make a online 3d game in java for about 7 months. After 7 months I am now starting to grasp it.
It truely is hard
dude954 3 years ago
After 7 months of programming I barely had a 3D mini-demo with characters made up of textured quads. But hey, I didn't used Open Source engines, actually I didn't even knew they existed (i had almost no internet connection & no gamedev-oriented friends).
cippyboy 3 years ago
Sorry for off-topic
You say you have "mastered" C++ sspoke, why not show us something of what you have done with the language. It sounds like your just spewing out shit with no facts; go to my youtube channel, and you'll see the link to my website on which I host all of my programs and games that I have made.
By the way, your English sucks. Sorry if it's not your first language. And if it is, Good luck
I wrote this in a very sleep deprived state of mind, so don't take anything too serious.
boatyboatrite 3 years ago
This looks like a fight :D
cippyboy 3 years ago
Ha lol, it very well might be. I try not to start youtube fights because they're off-topic and generally not very productive, but I feel strongly about what it takes to program. I think I'll retire though from this "would-be" fight.
Later all; Good luck sspoke, I hope you prove me wrong (lol)
boatyboatrite 3 years ago
And sspoke, from that last comment it's clear you know nothing of game programming nor any other sort of programming. It is simply clear you have never programmed anything useful in your life.
boatyboatrite 3 years ago
Lol I consider my self as one of the best programmers there are.. im a this type of level where you learn everything and you pretty much just get bored of programming and want to quit.. i wouldnt make a game it requires too much :p I'd get a engine and work of it ;) I know C++ and assembly and I've started from QBASIC when I was 13 or so and then picked up C and now mastered C++.
meh.. you know nothing lol
sspoke 3 years ago
lol epic. freakin' epic.
boatyboatrite 3 years ago
bro its obvious if your making a game ur gonna steal models from other games whats the odds of you actually making em like 1 in a million.. cuz its hard work
sspoke 3 years ago
This video is not about stealing models :)
cippyboy 3 years ago
Nothing hard in programing if u cant do that you don't deserve to make a game!
cuz programming is only a few commands you have to learn like whats IF statement whats loop and how to call built in functions from 3d engines! once you do that your a pro programmer pretty much.
Lets say you trying to make it online you have a server pre-built that sends packets to differnet player ID's lets say you kill someone
if packet = YOU_DIED removeSprite(yourID)
sspoke 3 years ago
You got it man ! So why don't you make the best game ever ? laziness perhaps ?
cippyboy 3 years ago
not laziness lol more like no interest..
I know C++ programming for 5 years now sicne I was 15 years old.. and 2 years ago I started to learn assembly now.. making games.. is too much work..
I program.. not games.. but something I find interest in.. most like hooks for games.. i hook popular MMORPG game functions to pretty much get control of the game before the packets get encrypted I make bots for that game.. and every now and then I get lucky :p and find dupes,exploits you name it ;P
sspoke 3 years ago
YAY for blender 3d
moffboffjoe 3 years ago
lol I know what Yurithebest means.... good joke
Aggrochief117 3 years ago
nice video =) hehe love it I have nothing against noobs, actually I like to help them but it's kind of annoying when a newbie ask some question like "how can I make an MMORPG it will be the best MMORPG ever" start small =)
Theil 3 years ago
i think the quickest game i ever made was in 30 minutes... Can ya tell it sucked?
it was a rip off of pong that i made where if the other player hit's the ball it makes like 50 billion balls appear and tells you that player (somthing between 1 and 99) won.
nfistfu 3 years ago
well im trying to learn C++ cause im going to Devry university to study gaming and simulation programing , AND ITS HARD AS HELL , its like a marcian language lol
yoa422801 3 years ago
Wow this is a problem because many people that were noobs have created mmorpgs. There are also free programs that create 2d mmos and there are expensive ones for 3d mmos.
blackhawk77g 3 years ago
haha... =.=
me3x13 3 years ago
what the heck...?
fadillzzz 3 years ago
Haha this is the truth.
AbartsWorld 3 years ago
such*** lmao
DonnaaPinciotti 3 years ago
you guys should also check out "noob make animated vedio" >_> poorly done my friend, pooly done...
DonnaaPinciotti 3 years ago
I searched for "noob make animated vedio" and didn't found a perfect match, care to give a link ?
cippyboy 3 years ago
lol i was kidding, there is no suck thing i was simply implying that this video was of poor quality, a noob job :P
DonnaaPinciotti 3 years ago
i hope someone hates you making useless junk ... and it shows your a noob to in designing games ... thats why he posts this
inflateable 3 years ago
lol im trying to learn how , i want to bcome a game programmer some day , nice video very hilarious
diaukeharada 3 years ago
lol i dont understand a thing what u said
VvissiaA 3 years ago
just click (more info) for the transcript :)
cippyboy 3 years ago
So funny. I remember doing that once =P
Iamyou64 3 years ago
LOL! learn some C then python then C++, read the forums of hacksites and internet security you can find it all in google if you really want to stop being noobs.
D4rkMaj1n 3 years ago
or just c++ lol...
Bozebo 3 years ago
WAIT I can't read that fast make it slower!!!!!
inricheetos 3 years ago
pause then inri
kanesizer9 3 years ago
Well if you want to make a sweet ass game but dont want to wast much time use fps creator x10, with this you can make first personm shooting games and play them online with friends.
godmax1 3 years ago
u do realise this vid is taking the piss...
Bozebo 3 years ago
this must be the most crappiest vid i have ever seen.
Neofin7 3 years ago
This is the funniest NOOB video I have ever seen ! :D
cippyboy 3 years ago
that was hella stupid, the guy can't even talk right.
joedaddysdaddy 3 years ago
This is stupid. You may be a "programmer" but you suck at making a decent video.
judasatan 3 years ago
1. This video is absolutely hilarious
2. The first line of description says it's not made by me.
cippyboy 3 years ago
1. That guy needs to get a decent microphone and know how to speak so that people can understand him.
2. Not funny, hilarious, or humorous, unless you're a programmer that visits forums and sees idiots trying to get programmers to make games for them.
judasatan 3 years ago
1. I translated the whole speech on the description if you can't understand what he's saying
2. I assume you're the kind of guy that still doesn't know how much effort is put into a game, much like the dude in the video, except you don't plan on making a game.
Look at the credits of a modern game. You'll see 100+ people that are not at their first project.
cippyboy 3 years ago
1. Audio still sucks dick.
2. I have done debugging for games and some software. It's a pain. It's long and tedious and can take up hours upon hours of your day... I just fail to see the humor in this.
judasatan 3 years ago
The humor is that everyone has this great idea about making THE GREATEST GAME EVER, but neglect the stelar amounts of work needed to do something like that because they assume it's simple.
cippyboy 3 years ago
Maybe too simple...
judasatan 3 years ago
Di you guys even reliaze how hard it is to make a game? GDFO. You just critisize developers like me and other people who do all the hard work.
"Oh, WoW is much better than your crumby game, even rs is, bla bla bla."
First off, runescape and WoW were by companys, not developers.
2nd, if you dont like our games, then make your own you whinging noobs. jesus christ, people like you piss me off.
Desecutive 3 years ago 8
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Shut the fuck up, bitch, and stop sucking 'em dicks.
salsa1025 3 years ago
Dude, we're not criticizing people that try to make games like myself & others, but people that want to make games and have absolutely no gamedev skill at all. They eventually realize it's terribly hard, then ask for others to do the game while they boss them around.
cippyboy 3 years ago