Long thoracic nerve damage.

[nandrade26]

right now im doing a treatment consisting on massages and electric stimulation, damn it feels good, the thing about the electric stimulation is that when the electrode is placed in a certain place under the scapula it hurts and i think its beacuse it right on the injured nerve and forces the serratus to contraction, my guess is that nerve itself its pinched.

[sk8nlea1234]

Hey. I was wondering if you fixed this. Most of the information on the internet only shows the problems, and not how anyone fixed it. I am only 22, still in college, female. I would appreciate anything. I havent seen my friends in months and I am wasting so much money on ineffective therapies

[izdajalec]

7years ago I used an electronic muscle stim. device,

which I stupidly overused therefore severely injuring muscles

and nerves. I suspect they could be crossed, the muscles, it hurts a lot.

I've been going to doctors ever since and nothing has helped, had various exams done.

I've been having big pain in my body ever since.

I am wondering,what I shud do to either FIND OUT what is wrong,

which examination to take

OR HELP MYSELF.

PLEASE HELP !

[hoteyone]

Dude, I also the same thing, can you update we all what treatment you took and back to normal. I am seriously getting anxious of that winging scapular/long thoracic nerver injury. Thanks.

[DelGeeZee]

Hey dude, can you give us an update? Are you in good shape. I am thinking of getting treated.

[destructorcon]

Dude  can you tell me more about the laser treatment? No doctor seems to know what I'm talking about. Was it part of an invasive surgery? Can you give me the name of the doctor/specialist you used? I really just want to be able to train again. I would really appreciate it.

[booyakashaful]

@destructorcon Yo, I think what he's talking about is called "cold laser therapy" (also referred to as "low level laser therapy." It's starting to pick up steam and many chiropractors are using it. Some claims about it sound a bit overblown, but there have been some studies to support it and the FDA has approved it for some uses. Hope that helps.

[katiewilhite123]

i feel your pain. i have a brachial plexus injury and my shoulder does not work at all. i can't lift my arm past my chin and i can't make a wing span, shrub my shoulder, pull my shoulder back or forward, or squeeze my shoulder blades together at all.

[jrob1972]

Thanks for the post. Now i understand why i dont have control of my right lat and I have winged scapula on the right side. I am currently under physical therapy.

[kellina84]

i have thoracic nerve damage from a chest tube i had in my lung for a month. It wore down on my nerves and eventually damaged them. Along with a horrible lung surgery. My whole right side has stabbing and throbbing pain to a pinching numbing pain.

I have to be on pain killers just to function. I wake up with pain, i go to bed with pain.

I feel for you if you have nerve damage, i know some is more severe than others but its all hell!

[BackInsight]

No one necessarily needs surgery. Lengthen the spine, free the neck. Each of you got yourself in this position, get yourself out. Lengthen the spine. Then once you feel that you've properly aligned and freed the neck, Use your sternocleidomastoids to pull up the clavicles and chest. Hold your shoulders in a lifted and squared position within 2 inches of chin level. Then maintain a new, aligned posture that you always wanted. You have the control. Don't lift weights for a year.

[vidiotxerox]

Dude! I had this same freaking thing happen recently it was so frustrating. It seems to have chilled now - I did some self pressure pointing around the top of the shoulders and neck and I think it has relaxed that nerve that you are talking about. At the time though I didn't even know about that nerve. So thanks for posting this! Makes total sense now. I think it happened i was doing push ups and looked up really quickly and felt my neck pinch. Fucking shit!

[sporty1231new]

I have exactly the same thing happen to my shoulder and after seeing 17 different surgeons they told me it was Neuralgic Amyatrophy. It isn't just scapular winging, its winging caused by the thorasic nerve being attacked by a virus. It only happens in very rare cases but it might be somthing to ask your consultant about (no doctors in Hampshire, England have ever seen it before because of the rarity)

[myamoocow]

@sporty1231new Is there treatment for Neuralgic Amyatrophy? I'm going through this now with bi-lateral winging scapula and my neurologist isolated it to my long thoracic nerve. My overhead range of motion is horrible, I have to strain to raise my arms above shoulder level. Any more information you have would be greatly appreciated! Thanks...

[sporty1231new]

@myamoocow The muscle and nerve wasting should go naturally after about 3years after they regenerate fully. Just come back from having 4 weeks rehab on my shoulder-but there is no actual cure to date. My overhead overhead control is rubbish aswell-i can't control the shoulder at all without totally straining. The scapular wings so much that the skin is stretching around the shoulder on mine. The best exercises to do are ones that focus on the serratus anterior (and just any rear deltoid) Cheers

[myamoocow]

@sporty1231new Thank you very much for the reply...my neurologist said that my long thoracic nerve "wants" to work and compared to a garden hose having a kink in it. I guess the good news was that it was not severed nor did I have any lesions on it. It's been about 3 years now and it hasn't improved at all, if anything it's worse now. I would do the pectoralis transfer surgery in a second if I had to..I'm still too young to live the rest of my life like this!

[PUSSY100ish]

@myamoocow Hi. Have you checked Active Release Therapy. They usually say most shoulder limitation is due to scarred/fibrosed subscapularis muscle (in the armpit), which is quickly treated and the result is an instant better range of motion.

[hental001]

i had damaged my long thoracic nerve like you I want to know How to maintain.

[EbayEuron]

had you any problems lifting?

[Wolfsbane909]

I got nerve damage on the left shoulder, but the doctors don't give a fuck. instead they just say "oh go to this place for physio, because medi-care doesn't cover that". Good thing u got fixed up, because I am canceling my bullshit medi-care, yeah they'll tax my ass for services I don't use, but as soon as I need attention I get fucked over. Yay 4 fucked-up medicare in Canada! Hell I'll even travel to the USA to get fixed, cuz Canada = BULLSHIT

[mohammadali44]

hi.. Man.. this is shit.. what to do with this..

I dont get the muscles stretched at the left side.. my arms and all the muscles are suffering..

[mohammadali44]

Hi, Sorry i have been away from the internet for a looooong time. Man I hav seen nothing but just WHAT HAS HAPPEND<OR HAPPENING TO EVERYONE . Nobody bothers to ask How does this happen,, how to cure it.....

[c3contact123]

you are still 99% beautiful. i have the same thing on the same side. i never knew anyone else had this until I saw this video, researched the internet. I've been to 5 doctors and not one mentioned the long thoracic nerve. keep up the gym work!

[nandrade26]

@c3contact123 I know exactly what u mean..i've been to a lot of doctors, and they all mentioned different reasons, but none the long thoracic nerve,

[c3contact123]

you are still 99% beautiful. count your blessings. i have the same thing on the same side as you. i think it bothers me more than anyone else (obviously). keep up the good gym work.

[detroitMC313]

This is the 3rd time this happend and usually it was very slight but today feels a little bit worse, should I be worried about anything??

[detroitMC313]

Damn... sorry that happend to you. I got a question if u can help....... I've been working out a little harder lately, and I'm probably puttin up too much weight. My left arm, the forearm and my hand feel small sharp pains, nothing too painfull though. I just got done working out so hopefully by tomorrow these pains will be gone but I just figured i'd ask ur opinion.

[mohammadali44]

Hi guys.. This is too much with you man... Holy crap.. B;less you dear. Me too suffer but i suffer a lil slight one.

But it does interfere my gym workout.. How to fix this all... My left shoulder is affected by this.a.?

I cant concentrate on left side muscles.. mne advise plz..

[madh83]

I think I have might the same injury, are you going by whether the serratus moves on both sides when you do stuff?

[cydoniamarte]

estas preciosos, !! enseña un poco más!! papa...

[primrosef01]

I don't understand how you fixed it without surgery... I need your physical therapist!!!!

[roscoeskillz]

I have the same problem. It was from too much overhead training with dumbells about 8 years ago. What happens is your long thoracic nerve that goes from a vertabrae in your neck down to your armpit which fires the serratus gets pinched off in a muscle in the side of your neck.There is a surgery to correct it The surgery has excellent success rates with a lot of people recovering 100% in the first 24 hours

The Texas Nerve and Paralysis Institute in Houston, run buy a lead surgeon named Dr.Nath

[nandy333]

thanks for replying so soon, i have had this problem for a year now and have been seeing a physio for 8 months now and the exercises have done nothing but worsen the problem. i guess theres no hope for me :-( lol

[jedcoaker]

@nandy333 you need to see a hands on therapist such as a sports therapist or a remedial massage therapist. Someone who can use soft tissue techniques combined with exercises to release the entrapment around the nerve root. Hope you find the help you need

[venderjb]

Hey, I seem to have this exact same problem and it has been driving me out of my mind. Do you have the name and information of the physical therapist you went to? also do you know of any exercises and treatments that can correct this problem?

[samhainaz]

I think you look great, and very strong. I guess you learned your lesson about overdoing it with the weights. I hope you will eventually be able to do the handstands again because it helps with coordination and works out all the small muscles as well as eveyrthing else. Thats something that regular weights and machines wont cover. I havent seen your legs yet so i have no clue where u stand with that.

[gramsci1111]

what a hot guy! keep up the good work!

[taratajka1]

can u trein when your like this. is it ok.

[shyrDOM]

what exercises did physical therapy give you? what are you doing now to correct the winging?

[24rambo48]

how long did it take for it to recover? i am going through the same thing right now. it started about 4 months ago.

[taratajka1]

me to it started 3 mounts ago i dount know what to do.

[quinsee66]

you poor thing.

I lost all use of my arm in a motorcycle accident aged 17.

Luckily my nerves did start to grow again and at 42 years of age i have about 80 % strength compared to my good right arm.Sheer determination.

[Nioupt]

can u please tell me what is the name of the laser treatment u did?

Did u went to the swiming pool to get better?

Did u use any kind of strip/holder around the shoulder blade?

[AmazingPillowFights]

I have the same exact issue. I just had an EMG 2 weeks ago and found out my nerve is damaged. Its been about 9 months sense injured it and they decided to do an EMG cuz after a whole summer of physical therapy nothing was getting better and the neurologist says it takes a long time for a nerve to heal...mine still wings and my shoulder pops out too. Hopefully I have the same result as you and mine also gets better.

[siddharta19832]

Am loving the armpit display. HOT

[princecarlos07]

lol omg me too.

[jmc06g]

see Dr. Nath

[dzeno99]

what sort of laser treatment....

they want me to do a needle EMG....

do you have an e-mail

[dzeno99]

Here Im after getting the same problem. Docs keep reffering me to all these different specialists. Can you let me know what you did to get better please.

[oldschoolmonkeys]

well i didnt know what was wrong with me for a while, i had the problem for about 6 months until i finally went into a physical therapist and i went into some laser treatment and i had done many excersizes that my therapist told me to do. i also looked up some myself, i suggest going into a doctor and seeing if they can refer you to a physical therapist, so you can get the laser therapy as well, and the routine excersizes even tho you can look those up. if your more interested msg/cmt back.

[Alacress]

Oh man, I don't like the sound of that... especially considering that I don't have insurance, and I'll only have 70% coverage in the spring semester.

I've been dealing with a bad case of this condition for about 7 or more years (I honestly had no idea what it was called until just recently) and with my case, I'm unable to lift my right arm past chest height, unless I throw it upwards.

What happens in the laser therapy exactly, and do you have any idea on how much it costs?

[oldschoolmonkeys]

the laser treatment that my physical therapist did on me was to help heal the long thoracic nerve. and i do not know the cost im sorry, my mom payed for it and i think our insurance helped. but it was like $40 each visit. and i went there for about 2-3 times a week for about 2-3 weeks then i started going there once weekly for about 2 more weeks and i was done there. if i remember correctly.

[RandomVideoism]

i bench press, and i feel some wierd pain/ache thing in my shoulder plate in my back area (where you can bend the shoulder plate, move it in and out)

could this be it?

[nandy333]

did u used to get pain cos my back does this but i also get stabbing pains and really bad aches. be great if u could let me know. thanks

natalie

[oldschoolmonkeys]

you guys can look up some exercises on youtube that should help out a little. and also i did not have any sharp pains. my recovery was only a couple of months and i had this condition for about 5 months before going in to get it checked out. takes a while to recover unlesss you get a surgical procedure. but that i dont recommend. try doing physical exercises if you cant go into a physical therapist. there are some you can learn here on youtube.

[NicoleMira]

@oldschoolmonkeys

Hi, can you please tell me exactly what kind of a laser treatment u had? i got a doudhter - 3 years old with that damage and winging scapula

[booyakashaful]

@NicoleMira Yo, I think what he's talking about is called "cold laser therapy" (also referred to as "low level laser therapy." It's starting to pick up steam and many chiropractors are using it. Some claims about it sound a bit overblown, but there have been some studies to support it and the FDA has approved it for some uses. Hope that helps.

[rosskay]

@oldschoolmonkeys actually I wonder if that may have happened from getting your chest too strong, that can pull your shoulders fowards, adn loosen/weaken the lats/rhomboids, etc. If you are still strentgh training, it might help to go easier on the chest excercises while doing what the phsycial therapist taught you to stregthen the muscles supporting your scapula. I have a similar problem with multiple causes, stronger chest in comparison is one of them. hope you are doing better <3

[blindskater200]

@rosskay

I've been working out a little so my chest isn't too strong and I've had winged scapula for as long as I remember so I really don't have any idea what the cause of it is for me. Well I do have an idea but I can't explain it with words, it's just too hard to. What other causes are there? The uploader said he got his from handstands, well I learned to walk on my hands a couple years ago so could that have made my problem even worse?

[rosskay]

@blindskater200 it's possible. I learned about strong chests and allowing your blades to move foward like that (if youre flexible)over time can cause it- from my rehab therapist. (regular pt's are trained for post op therapy, and often don't help as much for chronic conditions) but I hear that is changing now. I also have a host of spinal and neurological issues. It's like how some famous atletes who blew out their hamstrings from strong quads; you should strengten the muscles opposing the chest

[boombapswag92]

@oldschoolmonkeys wats up my brotha, wats lazer treatment?

[booyakashaful]

@boombapswag92

Yo, I think what he's talking about is called "cold laser therapy" (also referred to as "low level laser therapy." It's starting to pick up steam and many chiropractors are using it. Some claims about it sound a bit overblown, but there have been some studies to support it and the FDA has approved it for some uses. Hope that helps.

[PUSSY100ish]

@oldschoolmonkeys Hi mate, what symptoms did you have that indicated this damage?

[cavethor]

it looks great^^

[buffedmtl]

and yeah, perfect for is essential!, do not try to impress anyone