hi what song is at the beginning? also thanks for showing me that magus dont suck, i got the free trial yesterday an made a magus cos they fly on discs and summon demons(what else do you need) without doing any prior research and then got quite dismayed that it was near universally agreed that magus suck but then i found this vid so yea tnx
@fater3000 Your welcome. The starting song is "Need For Steve" by Machinae Supremacy.
And magus was at the time of this movie and when i quit war a very weak class - you could acomplish much if you where good but it took more effort then almost any other class and the rewards for it was quite alot less then the average.
Ive heard that the magus class has gotten better recently. Keep at it and make up your own mind.
come back man we need a good magus on azgal to show ppl that magus is useful class and make them stop saying that magus cant kill anyone 1v1,and btw after 80rr choppa i made a magus and its like a hard mode but i like it :)
@Zulandar Well bleach aside, i have seen you game a few times, we dueled a bit, you beat me most times, but as with all 1v1, spec plays a big part :) but good game m8, take care
This shows how hard warhammer is, that even a mouseclicker can easily kill order. I love this game beacuse of the fun in rvr, but i think mythic could have made the game a bit more hard, more like the skill needed with some classes in wow (ofc im not speaking about OP classes like pallys or dks, wich need even more skill than any war career)
I don't agree with your tactic when fighting dps, you can easily burst down anyone with the following combo (if it's far u apply a few dots before, pet is out before in a proper duel):
1: instability,
2: redot, surging pain, and interrupt spell (nvr remember the name)
3. push back, surging pain, indigo fire of change
4. loot and repeat
There is not a single dps that can take a total of 5k dot dmg and over 2k dmg from cast/insta spells... without crits. You can finish with 100% hp.
A WH with Shroud of Magnus and Vindication will walk all over you. Stop theorycrafting so much and dont give advices where they're not needed. This guy plays his class like a monster,i think hes okay without your advices.
You summon and absorb orange flames to increase your Wounds by 120(also heals for the same amount as the wounds buff), increasing your total life for 20 seconds. During this time, any enemies striking you in Melee will receive 151 Elemental damage from your flames.
hey dude i'm glad i actually found a video of a magi where the uploader is still here and alive and has posted recently. I got a question for you, i know magis suck so i'm not rolling one (even though you were raping ass in this video for the most part, but i assume thats cus u were against tanks mostly and lower RR ppl) but what is your opinion of marauder class atm? i got a rank 20 and i dunno to reroll or get him to 40 caues i heard they suck ass at DPS compared to other meele classes.
Actuly several in the movie where high RR people recognised on the server as skilled, and i have a great track reckord against everything but WH's.
Marauder's right now are AP draining machines - they steal your ap while beating you sensless. The dps itself i hear from my marauder mates isnt anything awesome but you can lockdown a guy until they die most of the time.
sigh yeah that's just the thing, i think there is nothing cheaper than AP drain. What is the skill in winning a battle against anybody who can't do shit other than auto-attack? Nothing... And if you owned so many skilled high RR ppl then why is it that magis are considered to suck? i don't geti t.
Havoc suffers from very long cast times with mixed in mediocre damage for the cast times and/or long CD's. This is quite literaly the poor mans Sorc spec - both SH and Sorc can outdamage a havoc magus without barely trying and have utility/CC that the magus, no mater how you spec... Quite simply doesnt have. Also to a lesser extent suffers from our weak dots. If combined with change you get a semi viable dps spec for grouping, but SH/Sorc still have no real issues outdoing it.
This means that unless you can get the guy within 45feet with CQ sloted and stack every single dot on them followed by what little DD you have - and you better pray to god he doesnt get hoted or cleansed - you will barely notice an order guys health bar move...
And lets face it - group heals and hots are dished out like candy in wb/group fights even if you dont need them. Hence the change specs already mediocre damage on papper becomes loldamage in practice because of dot durations and lack of burst. Most targets usualy dont even live long enough for the dots to tick halfway through because of your team mats. Or the order guy survives while barely noticing them.
Daemonology offers survivability(aegis, insta demons, daemonic pact) and the magi's one redeeming feature(Chaotic Rift). Daemonology suffers from having melee range attacks without offering enough survivability to actuly use said abilites in melee in a wb/group fight. This means the only reason there is to even touch daemonology is because your after some added survivability or because your specing rift, it offers no damage increase worth mentioning.
Add to that that magi suffers heavily from AP management issues and realy bad itemization along with the fact that we stick out like sore thumbs and are targeted because we could possibly be a rifter. Or simply because the average magus goes down in seconds(renown pinjata) and your left with a class that cant realy do anything well enough beyond rift to be useful.
The only reason i can, as you put it... "Own" people is because i spent alot of time figuring out a tactic that works in 1v1, spent even longer hunting down the gear/stats i need for it and then spent 1-2 months getting pwned by everyone to perfect it.
I own because i actuly cared enough about it to spend some effort on it unlike those lolbutton spamming morons rolling a bloody BW for easy kills.
If you cant learn to deal with it and improve yourself go play Hello Kitty Online.
hehe nice. Well even though i'm not even close to getting rank 40 with my marauder, i've already worked out two very potent builds that i think will kick total ass WITHOUT any AP Drain (the same reason u think BW-s are cheap i think Ap drain is cheaper than any stun-faggot-rogue out there). Anyway thanks for posting all of these answers.
Rarely. The damage nerf was to big and the bug that also started affecting glean made it unplayable on anyone but bad players and guys that just hit T4.
hi what song is at the beginning? also thanks for showing me that magus dont suck, i got the free trial yesterday an made a magus cos they fly on discs and summon demons(what else do you need) without doing any prior research and then got quite dismayed that it was near universally agreed that magus suck but then i found this vid so yea tnx
fater3000 7 months ago
@fater3000 Your welcome. The starting song is "Need For Steve" by Machinae Supremacy.
And magus was at the time of this movie and when i quit war a very weak class - you could acomplish much if you where good but it took more effort then almost any other class and the rewards for it was quite alot less then the average.
Ive heard that the magus class has gotten better recently. Keep at it and make up your own mind.
Zulandar 7 months ago
come back man we need a good magus on azgal to show ppl that magus is useful class and make them stop saying that magus cant kill anyone 1v1,and btw after 80rr choppa i made a magus and its like a hard mode but i like it :)
zabudu 1 year ago
your bad-ass, man!
Stormeris 1 year ago
Song from 4:50 is from Bleach? Lol
MmoInfo 1 year ago
@MmoInfo
While bleach is at best "meh" i quite like that song.
Zulandar 1 year ago
@Zulandar Well bleach aside, i have seen you game a few times, we dueled a bit, you beat me most times, but as with all 1v1, spec plays a big part :) but good game m8, take care
MmoInfo 1 year ago
@MmoInfo Not much difference for magi. Your basicly forced into either rift(utility) spec or havoc(dps) spec. I never respec for anything.
Zulandar 1 year ago
Wuut, You listen MS aswell Thur O.o
Nice movie man! And who says beeing a clicker is nubish? ;)
Greetz, Rarck Toofcracka
Larzzone01 1 year ago
This shows how hard warhammer is, that even a mouseclicker can easily kill order. I love this game beacuse of the fun in rvr, but i think mythic could have made the game a bit more hard, more like the skill needed with some classes in wow (ofc im not speaking about OP classes like pallys or dks, wich need even more skill than any war career)
FuckUJapsSaveWhales 1 year ago
@FuckUJapsSaveWhales LAWL, skill and WoW don't even belong in the same sentence.
WAR is harder to master than WoW. A lot harder. The simpliest classes are harder to master in WAR than the most complicated in WoW.
In general, WAR is all around more difficult to WoW, whether it's RvR (PvP) or RvE (PvE).
b00mYou 1 year ago
@b00mYou To be fair the pve is harder mostly because its buged to pieces or half finished not out of actual hardness.
Zulandar 1 year ago
I don't agree with your tactic when fighting dps, you can easily burst down anyone with the following combo (if it's far u apply a few dots before, pet is out before in a proper duel):
1: instability,
2: redot, surging pain, and interrupt spell (nvr remember the name)
3. push back, surging pain, indigo fire of change
4. loot and repeat
There is not a single dps that can take a total of 5k dot dmg and over 2k dmg from cast/insta spells... without crits. You can finish with 100% hp.
mmgironi 2 years ago
i dont presummon pet in dues. And back then it might have worked on idiots, any proper player of any class would have hurt you atleast somewhat.
Atm it whont work on anyone with nerfed CC and change spec damage.
And besides, i no longer use this tactic. Check the dates on the movie.
Zulandar 2 years ago
A WH with Shroud of Magnus and Vindication will walk all over you. Stop theorycrafting so much and dont give advices where they're not needed. This guy plays his class like a monster,i think hes okay without your advices.
naruF 1 year ago
I'd like to see you try that against my WH :)
And lol @ random dude giving class related advices to one of the most imba magus players arround.
naruF 1 year ago
Some nice actions Thari,like always/
Hope for moar duels with you dude,kinda getting into it.You win some,you lose some :P
Peace out,Monten
NIksa90 2 years ago
Hey Thariz it's Anni, nice vid
jonomurphy3 2 years ago
Thanks for this vid. Restored my hope in the class.
Nezric310 2 years ago
Ur really good, thats for sure. And kudos to u!
And, ur using ur mouse! most of the ppl who know who does that, isnt capable of soloing anyone:P
Anyway, around 5:20 it seems like ur being healed? whats this? tactic, pots or a hidden healer somewhere?:P
alfmarius 2 years ago
Aegis of Orange Fire:
You summon and absorb orange flames to increase your Wounds by 120(also heals for the same amount as the wounds buff), increasing your total life for 20 seconds. During this time, any enemies striking you in Melee will receive 151 Elemental damage from your flames.
Zulandar 2 years ago
Dwarel here, are you still playing thariz? Thinkin of returning.
Kyix 2 years ago
Yeah im back.
Magi still suck.
Zulandar 2 years ago
And slayers are still awesome?
Hows the game in general now? Anything new worth coming back to?
svett.
Kyix 2 years ago
slayers are still good, CC has been mostly dealt with. The game is where it should have been on release.
City sieges have been reworked so you can no longer just hold one point to win. And in the orvr campaign forts have been removed for good or bad.
Zulandar 2 years ago
hey dude i'm glad i actually found a video of a magi where the uploader is still here and alive and has posted recently. I got a question for you, i know magis suck so i'm not rolling one (even though you were raping ass in this video for the most part, but i assume thats cus u were against tanks mostly and lower RR ppl) but what is your opinion of marauder class atm? i got a rank 20 and i dunno to reroll or get him to 40 caues i heard they suck ass at DPS compared to other meele classes.
Atheist269 2 years ago
Actuly several in the movie where high RR people recognised on the server as skilled, and i have a great track reckord against everything but WH's.
Marauder's right now are AP draining machines - they steal your ap while beating you sensless. The dps itself i hear from my marauder mates isnt anything awesome but you can lockdown a guy until they die most of the time.
Zulandar 2 years ago
sigh yeah that's just the thing, i think there is nothing cheaper than AP drain. What is the skill in winning a battle against anybody who can't do shit other than auto-attack? Nothing... And if you owned so many skilled high RR ppl then why is it that magis are considered to suck? i don't geti t.
Atheist269 2 years ago
The magi problem:
Havoc suffers from very long cast times with mixed in mediocre damage for the cast times and/or long CD's. This is quite literaly the poor mans Sorc spec - both SH and Sorc can outdamage a havoc magus without barely trying and have utility/CC that the magus, no mater how you spec... Quite simply doesnt have. Also to a lesser extent suffers from our weak dots. If combined with change you get a semi viable dps spec for grouping, but SH/Sorc still have no real issues outdoing it.
Zulandar 2 years ago
Change while having many, many dots and attacks... Just doesnt do anything.
Zulandar 2 years ago
The dots have mediocre total damage spread over 15-20sec periods when they should be 9sec or so.
Zulandar 2 years ago
This means that unless you can get the guy within 45feet with CQ sloted and stack every single dot on them followed by what little DD you have - and you better pray to god he doesnt get hoted or cleansed - you will barely notice an order guys health bar move...
Zulandar 2 years ago
And lets face it - group heals and hots are dished out like candy in wb/group fights even if you dont need them. Hence the change specs already mediocre damage on papper becomes loldamage in practice because of dot durations and lack of burst. Most targets usualy dont even live long enough for the dots to tick halfway through because of your team mats. Or the order guy survives while barely noticing them.
Zulandar 2 years ago
Daemonology offers survivability(aegis, insta demons, daemonic pact) and the magi's one redeeming feature(Chaotic Rift). Daemonology suffers from having melee range attacks without offering enough survivability to actuly use said abilites in melee in a wb/group fight. This means the only reason there is to even touch daemonology is because your after some added survivability or because your specing rift, it offers no damage increase worth mentioning.
Zulandar 2 years ago
Add to that that magi suffers heavily from AP management issues and realy bad itemization along with the fact that we stick out like sore thumbs and are targeted because we could possibly be a rifter. Or simply because the average magus goes down in seconds(renown pinjata) and your left with a class that cant realy do anything well enough beyond rift to be useful.
Zulandar 2 years ago
The only reason i can, as you put it... "Own" people is because i spent alot of time figuring out a tactic that works in 1v1, spent even longer hunting down the gear/stats i need for it and then spent 1-2 months getting pwned by everyone to perfect it.
I own because i actuly cared enough about it to spend some effort on it unlike those lolbutton spamming morons rolling a bloody BW for easy kills.
If you cant learn to deal with it and improve yourself go play Hello Kitty Online.
Zulandar 2 years ago
hehe nice. Well even though i'm not even close to getting rank 40 with my marauder, i've already worked out two very potent builds that i think will kick total ass WITHOUT any AP Drain (the same reason u think BW-s are cheap i think Ap drain is cheaper than any stun-faggot-rogue out there). Anyway thanks for posting all of these answers.
Atheist269 2 years ago
You forgot shield for that WL duel ;D
/salute kazile
dogztalk 2 years ago
Check again.
And good to hear from you.
Zulandar 2 years ago
hey, i just started this game and i have a 9 magus should i lvl him to 40 or reroll. need many tips. NICE VID :D
balin288 2 years ago
The magi(sadly) is probably the single worst class in the game atm with the only real competitor being the BG.
Reroll or learn to like the pain of playing the king of gimps.
Zulandar 2 years ago
nice video Tharizdun :) you raped Eendke on magus, that shows some serious skills, but then again you where the best Magus on Azgal ^^
Cheers
- SmoKim (Chosen from BLOOD)
comeonanythingrandom 2 years ago
Eendke was good fun.
And ty.
Zulandar 2 years ago
Hey thariz, nice vid man :)
To bad you quit ;_;
take it easy dude
Kostenaci ;)
Bazzeyfromdutchland 2 years ago
Are you still able to win like this in the new patch 1.3.1?
tarkonis 2 years ago
Rarely. The damage nerf was to big and the bug that also started affecting glean made it unplayable on anyone but bad players and guys that just hit T4.
Zulandar 2 years ago
Thank you.
Zulandar 2 years ago
Nice, you did really well on the video.
IamatreexD 2 years ago