@G00g284 think: OSMPSL (Observation Signal Manoeuvre Position Speed Look). Observation (mirror- speed of following/ overtaking traffic?) & blind spot (to check both the blind area & alert other drivers that you may change direction). Signal (right indicator & arm signal if necessary but arm is usually not needed). Position (ready to change lanes). Speed (do you need to adjust it to get into a gap?) Look (Mirror & blind spot; to re- assess the traffic situation before you commit).OK? :-)
@gpfwestie The purpose of the first blind spot check is to not only check for a road user parallel to you but also to control the traffic situation. In accordance with the Highway Code (Road users requiring extra care 204-225 motorcyclists): "If they look over their shoulder it could mean that they intend to pull out, turn right or change direction. Give them time and space to do so."
Follow the advice of your instructor as he/ she will know what is required in your specific region.
@nemtizz in this case, yes. It is a mini roundabout & there is less space to manoeuvre & signal so reduce speed & treat as a normal RB.
Few other tips: make sure any vehicle on the RB leaves before you join, be wary of vehicles on the RB doing u -turns, do not ride over the white painted area (esp. when wet), scan for road surface hazards diesel, metal drain covers, etc. Be aware of pedestrians & cyclists in the area & expect large vehicles (& poor drivers) to go over the white circle
@learn2rideVIDEOS Man im pretty confident i can do the module 2 test without a practice lesson. SO HYPED i just want to get my test done so i can never think about it again my CBT runs out on SEPTEMBER 30TH so i've got a while to practice a bit more.
One thing i'm not 100% sure on is when you stop at a light are you supposed to do just a right life saver, or does it depend what lane your in?
say you were in the middle lane, you would do a left and right life saver?
@G00g284 Well, here's a question: what do you think you should do? What is the purpose of rear observation before moving away? And where are the hazards likely to be in relation to you on the machine?
It is always advisable to consult a reputable instructor before you take your test (by 'reputable' I mean, 'well-qualified' & not just a business card/ phone number that a local dealer hands you, because making a profit for both parties is usually the reason behind it) to help you pass.
@learn2rideVIDEOS The purpose of the rear observation is to check for any vehicle that may be trying to overtake you or on the side of you that you wish to turn also it could be used to check for any hazards that may be approaching E.G a speeding car in the distance, you could then adjust to the situation.
and i'm not sure what you mean with the second question but if i had a guess i would say that the hazards in relation to me on the machine is 360 degree as they could be anywhere.
@G00g284 "Rear Observation - there are five times that you will need to do observations: speeding up (incl. pulling away), slowing down, moving or turning to the left, moving or turning to the right & when there is the potential to slow down (such as approaching traffic lights). Forget any one of these & you will get at least a driver fault; but change lanes, for example, without doing an observation & this will often be considered a serious fault."
@G00g284 From the point of view of an examiner when you are stopped at a red light, as you suggested, would he/ she think it unsafe if you checked both left and right before moving away? EG: Could there be a cyclist on your left (did you check for the cycle lane?) and an overtaking cyclist/ motorcyclist on your right? What do you think (if you were the examiner)? Safe and legal?
@G00g284 if you wish to check both left and right blindspots before moving away you can. Normally a right check is sufficient (not just to check the blindspot but also to alert other vehicle drivers as to your intention to change position or move away (see Highway Code).
@nemtizz if you are looking for further info about RBs in general click on the link in the description below the vid for the Learn2Ride Facebook Notes..
There is a lot of information about gear, test requirements, procedures & motorcycle road - riding in general & the Notes section is being continually updated. (Takes time when it is all being done from scratch by one person though).
If you're on Facebook, why not like the page & stay updated?
Dam just wondering do you have to go over speed bumps during the test, I was told by my cbt instructor that you always go around them if you can to keep constant speed ?
Well my friend i thank you for this video, i wish i had watched it before my mod 2, i passed my mod 1 fine, the mistake i made is i didnt eat for 12 hours before my test loosing concentration during my test accidently rolling the bike back less than 1 foot, also apprently i didnt stop at a zebra crossing, but by law i should have to unless there on it or waiting, failed due to dangerouse driving 7 years on the road on a 125 and i failed, rebooked for this friday wish me luck.
Just wondering, When I take my module 2...Do I signal right and then left to go straight over at a roundabout or just signal left when leaving it (near the exit i want)? Thanks.
@DanBarns92 usually when passing 12 o' clock, stay in the left lane with no left or right signal on approach but do perform rear observation & signal left after the exit before the one you wish to take.
Incidentally as the term 'straight ahead' is usually not used in case the pupil misinterprets the phrase to mean, 'go straight ahead' & mistakenly pull out in front of traffic coming from the right (which usually has priority).
Google 'facebook learn2ride' & look in the Notes section for info!
actually a vid from n.ireland i live hear here very clear and helpful! I have a question I currently have an L license will I have to do a CBT before I take lessons for a full bike licence?
@jamezzzzzz1986 if you had provisional entitlement before 21st Feb 2011 you have a 'grace period' to take and pass your test (until Feb 2012 if I recall) . If you go to the Learn2ride website (the link should be in the info/ description for this vid) and click on the CBT page you'll see the info you need. Will send a message to your inbox too.
I was wondering if you could help clear something up for me, I was failed on my test on wednesday because i indicated right to move away from a stationary position on the left side of the road. The examiner said that i should not have indicated at all when moving away. Looking in the highway code it says that you should indicate and everyone that i have spoken to has said that you have to indicate when moving off. Any advice on what to do?
@Huntster93 Where did you do your test? UK? What fault exactly was recorded on your report sheet? Did your signal affect another road user at the time (EG: cause them to swerve/ brake/ swear)? Did you receive any other faults at all on your sheet?
@learn2rideVIDEOS I done the test in Darlington, North East England. He gave me 4 minors on Rear Observation Signalling, he asked me to pull over to the left side of the road 4 times, so it looks as though he has gave a minor for each time. 4 minors goes to a serious fault im guessing? No road users were affected at the time, i was at the left side and slightly behind a parked car. I recieved 1 minor in 5 different sections, so if it wasnt for the indicator problem i would have passed.
@learn2rideVIDEOS Also its not the first time this examiner has failed me, the first time he failed me for "not using the back brake as much as the front" which i thought was very unfair considering its supposed to be 75% front, 25% back. Also i did the exact same thing with the indicator on the first test and he didnt mention anything about it in that test. There is also the fact the examiner and my instructor hate each other and dont get along at all, maybe this is influencing his testing?
@Huntster93 it is certainly not for me to say or speculate as the examiner's decision is final. What fault was recorded in your report sheet for the brake fault exactly please?
@learn2rideVIDEOS the examiner gave me 9 minors in Control Rear Brake, he explained after that i wasnt using the back brake as much as the front and thats why he failed me. I only recieved 2 other minors in that test
@Huntster93 if you are on Facebook, search for learn2ride and read the discussion on our wall about this topic. Hopefully that will help answer your questions? Sending you the link now to your inbox.
Quick few questions, i'm 16 years on a 50cc moped for now but 17 in december and will be doing this, from what i've seen of module 1 isn't it just the off road practical of the CBT but on a bigger bike? And Module 2 just looks like a beefed up version of the CBT on road but you can fail, what kind of things do people generally fail on as i'd like to get into the habit of doing these now on a moped so its 2nd nature for the test. Thanks!
ppl i get it all safe riding and all that shit but i wanna see even this dick riding it 30mph bollocks ... i dont belive it man . saw that car going past him lol i cant belive that in real life he will be dragging in the left lane on the bike when all around just go 40 lol in the cars let tell what happens in real life he will get into the leftest lane possible and throttle the fuck out of it so he is alon in front and no dick will smash into him or just pull out in front of him
at 05:51. why does the foot have to be on the rear brake, because when the lights change you would have to take the foot off so that on the left foot you kick into 1st. wouldnt it be quicker to hold the front brake (still have the bike in neutral) but have your left foot resting on the gears so that as soon as the lights change you can kick down straight away. or would i fail for doing that?
@uLikeTrance Good point & as with all things motorcycling,the answer is, "It depends." Usually, hill starts are easier using back brake, allows improved stability & slow speed control, EG: coming to a standstill or filtering at walking pace where you might have to stop suddenly/ descending a steep hill. Also allows you to show a brake light & improve visibility to traffic behind.Holding the bike on the rear brake may reduce the risk of losing control if you are hit at low speed from behind too.
@learn2rideVIDEOS are you expected to filter traffic on the test, and what is the point in training for the test with the instructors when you could just do the test if you fail retake it and remember what you did wrong?
@G00g284 You are expected to make safe, sensible progress on your test although, usually, filtering is not required. (However, under ''Meet, Cross, Overtake Other Traffic: including Separation Distance, Adequate Clearance & Anticipation'' teaching the safety aspects of filtering is an element that an instructor may be tested on. Have a look for my video, 'Filtering tips' for further info.
Training with an instructor is important to learn to ride safely saving you money in the long run.
@learn2rideVIDEOS I believe i have a very good chance of passing the module 2 without training as i keep practicing on the roads with my 125, i know what you mean by saving money in the long run but i just can't afford it right now and my CBT expires in september
I badly want the full license!
I was thinking if i pass my test i would do the advanced biker course to get better and safer at riding, also its free apparently i think its called BMF
@G00g284 what about Mod 1? I've had many 'Thank you! messages sent from viewers who passed their tests watching these videos alone so please feel free to watch, practice & learn if you cannot spare the money for an instructor but DO bear in mind that these videos are examples only & not intended to replace instruction.
RE: advanced training I don't recall the BMF Blue Riband being free & you have the IAM, RoSPA & DIAmond options to choose from.
@learn2rideVIDEOS yeah sorry about that it is IAM i remeber him writing that down on the booklet, MOD1? yeah i need to work on that i think, i'm more worried about mod 1 than mod2 to be honest lol,
Mod1? im going to watch some of your mod 1 videos right now
I don't know if it's just me being a bighead or something but the swerve looks very easy and just a small swerve?
@G00g284 Remember that the N.I. and UK offroad (Mod 1) tests differ slightly in layout and I recommend that, if you are taking your test in the UK, to look specifically for Mod 1 videos here on Youtube.
How come you go straight over the speed bumps? i got told to always go to the left hand side of them when there is oncoming traffic and if not then you can go through the right of them?
How long is the actual test? I have no experience with a street bike at all but i have 6 years experience with dirtbikes... i'm not sure if this is good or bad though lol although i really want to get my motorcycle license...how much is it to do all tests to obtain one excluding the cost of lessons. Thanks.
@learn2rideVIDEOS it saves my suspension and tbh it is easier going down the side (left) obviously if there is a hazzard there pot hole drain i'll go over the speed bump but thats just me
@Blackops272 fair point and, for the sake of the standard test, it is advisable to simply go over them.
Mind you there are times when it is safe to pass them on the right hand side (for example when passing a parked car) because you never know when a child will run out in front of that vehicle, nor can you assume that the door will not be flung open -even after having looked through the windows of the car for a driver- because there could be a child in the driver seat hidden out of sight.
@Blackops272 Agreed. Adapt your riding plan depending on the traffic situation and hazards you face at that particular time (as well as anticipating the ones that are likely to occur in the next ten seconds).
good vid m8 very informative for learners out there. butwho actually rideslike this everyride? it wouldent be very fun every parked car u have to lifesaver, i live in blackpool and if i did lifesavers for every parked car i would crash becuase ur eyes are not on the road
@insaneRideOuts666 as you so correcly pointed out, this is for learner motorcyclists (& those with no previous two-wheeled experience) who wish to learn about the basics & how to pass the standard test.
It is my policy to inform pupils that, "The REAL learning comes after you have passed the test" & keeping your eyes on the road & constantly scanning is a big part of that as you mentioned- lifesavers are done only when necessary (in line with the System Of Motorcycle Control in Roadcraft)
@insaneRideOuts666 totally acceptable as long as it is legal and, more importantly, presents no danger to you. Remember! No filtering opportunity, overtake, bend -whatever- is worth your Life m8..
There is a series of videos about filtering made by the same company who created the 'Great Roads Great Rides' DVD- i cannot post a link here but will send you a message (or check the description box for this video)
just passed my module 2 today im so f happy, yiiiiiippppppppppppppppppppppppppppppeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
@learn2rideVIDEOS thanks, well watching your vid's help me loads, a must watch for every learner motorcycle rider, fair play for up loading these vid's im sure they help alot more bikers out there so thanks :)
@billynightmare thanks & you're welcome. The whole point of the videos is to demistify the motorcycle test & to get more people in Britain & Ireland on two wheels- and for those already on two wheels, to start thinking more about their riding in terms of how they deal with junctions, cornering, left & right hand bends, hazards, etc. I personally highly recommend now going for IAM or RoSPA training billynightmare because the real learning starts after you pass your test! well done mate enjoy ;-)
@peddleandcrank 'swan-necking' is a term used for poor road positioning where riders attempt to swing widely in and out of junctions to avoid using slow control and the fault tends to be marked under steering.
as for the lifesaver, there is usually no need for a 180 degree rearward look (except perhaps changing lanes on a motorway). A lifesaver glance in your the blind spot on the left or right is sufficient (perhaps +/- 90 degrees) and use your mirrors for rear observation
@Blurredman See "Rear Observation - there are really only five times that you will need to do observations. These are: speeding up (including pulling away), slowing down, moving or turning to the left, moving or turning to the right & when there is the potential to slow down (such as approaching traffic lights). Forget any one of these & you will get at least a driver fault; but change lanes, for example, without doing an observation and this will often be considered a serious fault." HTH?
I think Module 1 was the hardest, even the examiner said it as well. Mod 2 is on the road "cautious riding" not so much a test in that sense. Great videos.
@learn2rideVIDEOS Hi and thanks for all the videos, they very helpful. Can I just ask in a Left Turn Procedure why it is necessary to do a lifesaver over your right shoulder? As my instructor hasn't taught me to do this and I am unsure as everyones views seem to differ. Many thanks.
@OliDuncan you're very welcome. Please always be on the lookout for traffic on your right (offside) that may cut in front of you when you are about to turn left- it happens esp. when roads narrow, on the approach to junctions, at motorway exits & on roundabouts to name but a few.. many drivers are impatient & try to pass as many vehicles as possible before veering left in order to save time- at the risk of the m'cyclist OliDuncan. A simple blindspot check can help keep you upright & alive.
Why would you go into neutral when stopped? - we were told to go into first gear before stopping so you don't have to fiddle with gears. The bike I rented for my test is very hard to get into neutral, it won't go into neutral at all from first gear and finding it from second can take a while. Will I be marked down for not going into neutral?
@rgaufman most examiners in N.I. require this for the riding test so that, should anything happen, the gears are not engaged on the machine. (A very sad case to illustrate the point, there was a rider in UK at traffic lights on an R1 behind a lorry if I recall correctly, with the clutch in & first gear engaged. Apparently the rider's hand slipped for whatever reason & the bike lurched forward, causing the rider to go under the stationary lorry resulting in a broken neck..RIP..So easily avoided)
@learn2rideVIDEOS for the UK test wasn't required to go into neutral and wasn't required to indicate to overtake parked cars. Passed earlier today, so happy! :)
Sad story about the R1 - if the Lorry was stationary, how did he break his neck? - that's tragic :( - on a 125cc or 250cc at least, the engine just stalls but I've been getting in the habit of getting into neutral during normal riding, but kept it in first for the test as there's enough to worry about.
@rgaufman Excellent & well done! Thanks for the info for other learners too.
As for the R1 rider, he basically went under the large, metal, vehicle crash-bar assembly situated at the rear of most lorries.. you are right, it is tragic & could've been avoided- like so many motorcycle 'accidents' (remember that the word 'accident' implies simply 'bad luck' -but, with a little thought on the rider's behalf, most collisions can be avoided.
@GuitarMasterGraeme the point of the lifesaver is to negate the possibility of colliding with another motorcycle that may be overtaking you at that point.
Imagine for example, you are sitting stationary at a set of traffic lights whilst another motorcycle a few car lengths behind is filtering through traffic. when the lights change the following motorcycle will already be travelling whereas you will be moving off thus, it is entirely possible that motorcycle will overtake you.
@GuitarMasterGraeme also consider that Rule 135 of the Highway Code applies:
"Before Moving Off': use mirrors to check road is clear, look round to check the blind spots (areas you are unable to see in the mirrors), signal if necessary (before pulling out), look round for a final check."
not much mention on mirror checks here? i was taught (over last 3 months till passed 1 week ago) to do mirror checks regularly in fact average every 10 secs is how often you should be conducting mirror checks. just how i was taught tho not saying im right. lol
@mynewflatrocks if you watch my narrated vids (part 1&2) you'll see there's a lot of emphasis on mirror checks as you pointed out
on average every 7 seconds is apparently the optimal time to check your mirrors to update your rear view (as well as when changing speed or direction). it is a good point you raise & one i wish more bikers would follow!
more importantly though is how you react to what you see in your mirrors- especially if other road users have reacted to your signals (or not!)
during this video you stop at lights and only do a right hand life saver why no left when pulling off? and i was also told to go to the left of speed bumps? i only ask as i have my test in 2 days thanks in advance
good questions- it varies from examiner to examiner, some are happy with a right lifesaver only before moving away, others prefer you to check both right AND left before moving off (for cyclists, motorcycles,vehicles passing on the inside of your lane/undertaking,etc). it also depends on the road and traffic conditions at the time, the number of lanes, whether or not you are filtering etc...
why not ask a local instructor and take their advice? and ask about the speed bumps too as regions vary!
arr. need help. i am 17 years old. and i see my self as a fairly decent confident rider. I am a confident person . As i am a salesman but when it comes to bike test im not. i feel agitated and uncomftable when someone is staring at my riding . and i will get nervous and feel my heart pound. i did module 1 training and my instuctor said absolutally excellent. but did my test and got 2 minors. due to me bein nervous . has anyone got any tips for me plz plz plz .
that helped me thx ill be doing this some time this 2months, but i have one question and thats why do you have to indicate if your going straight over the round about? and when u go into netural and your right foot is on the brake, theres a point were both feet are on the ground arent they to go back into first?
@insanebeard In accordance with the Highway Code, you must indicate after the exit before the one you wish to take. So if there is an exit to your left (and you are taking that exit) you would indicate left on approach. However if you are proceeding straight ahead, then you would not indicate on approach, you'd pass the first exit to your left and simply signal after you have passed it (before the one you wish to take).
And yes there are times when you alternate your feet between gear and brake
@learn2rideVIDEOS Just FYI - U-Turns and Controlled Stops are not part of the Module Two test element any more, as they are covered in the Module One element.
The most they will ask you to do is to perform a 'pull-away', probably from behind a parked car.
i done 2 cbt's and i been driving for almost 4 years, im gonna do my theory this week and my test the following week after i pass my theory, i have never in my whole fucking life been so stressed out!!!!! im so scared of failing!
question.
im gonna use my own bike for the test, the back brake is ok not very good but the front brake is good. will that be ok? or do they both need to be dope?
question: i got the best contact lences possible and i dnt think my sight is good enuff. any tips?
remember this video is just a demonstration of the standard of riding required for an N.I test.
In UK, observation of the OSM/PSL routine is usually sufficient whereas in N.I. it is usually LSML. Remember there are regional variations & even examiners differ in their opinions
On my RoSPA & IAM Advanced tests, lifesavers are generally replaced by mirror work & must be done if in any doubt between Info & Position stages (unlike a basic test)
I took mine in Leicestershire in England so I yeah you're right it will differ in region. In my opinion, failing for travelling through speedbumps would be extremely harsh if you're slowing down to go through them like you would if you went over one. The OSM, again in my opinion, is a tad too much for me. Just 1 look over your shoulder before changing lane/overtaking a moving or parked vehicle I find is sufficient enough. But examiners are tough, so for the test I did it like they wanted.
I passed my test in october and I found it relatively easy. I think this video shows some irrelevant information in some places, like travelling OVER speed bumps. I travelled between them on my test and didn't receive a single mention of it from my examiner. The 2 right shoulder checks before passing a parked car isn't needed too. 1 is plenty. Too much looking around like that is not needed at all.
Hi, im thinking of going for motorbike lessons, but i want to know how it works. how long does it take. i already have a drivers license, but how different are motorbikelessons. do the courses prepare you fully in 1or 2 days or is it longer?...putting aside the waiting time for thr practical test.
if you already have a full UK car licence that should grant you provisional entitlement to ride a machine upto but not over 125cc. check the categories on the back of your licence.
as for time- it all depends on where you take your test. if you take your test in the UK you can prepare for CBT in one day I believe depending on training schools in your area and direct access is similar.
it all depends on how quickly you learn and pick up on your own faults. remember every pupil differs!
im in the UK, yes. but one thing im confused about, im currently 19 years old. if i pass my test will it allow me to ride ANY size bike,or am i still limited?
In the UK, the rule is you have to have 2 years of experience after passing your test and be at least 21 years of age before you are allowed to ride machines that are not limited to 33bhp. However, you can take a direct access scheme at the age of 21 if you haven't had the 2 years after passing your test and, upon passing your DA, you may ride any motorcycle of any power. I wouldn't reccomend leaping from a 125 to a 1000cc motorcycle, a 600cc would be more than enough of an upgrade. Ride safe.
CBT is now in the process of being introduced to N.I. alongwith the Direct Access Scheme and, if the N.I test mirrors that of UK, here's some food for thought: the powers that be are thinking of introducing a further stepped test between CC classes post-test so if it happens in N.I. there is a possibility it will happen in UK also. i do not think it is a bad idea when progressing from a 125/250/400/600cc machine to a 1000cc machine for example
these restrictions are stupid, first its cc restriction then its power output. its entirely possible to get a 125 that is 33bhp or 25kWh so i could ride a bike on a cbt that i am restricted to after test.
but! if you value your own skin whilst riding a bike, then a pair of gloves is a MUST!
(closely followed by good boots, a jacket and trousers) it also creates a good impression on the examiner turning up properly suited and booted as opposed to trainers and bare hands
you can wear a hi viz vest if necessary (see highway code) but it's not compulsory for your test
for purposes of N.I test, it is for 'machine sympathy' (not putting strain on clutch waiting at a set of traffic lights for two mins with it pulled in for example)
also to stop the bike suddenly crashing into the rear of the car in front- eg should your hand slip etc because the machine is in gear.
you need only put the machine in gear when you are ready to go.
'eco-riding' goes one further & suggests whilst waiting for any period of time you hit the kill switch to save petrol & environment!
Eco riding hahahha. Theyreally are clueless. Just like to say your videos are helpful - i passed first time today. As you say below about demystifying the test - my examiner actually gave me minors where he could have failed because i had shown i was competent- they're not all out to get you.l
Quick question: Can I ask the reasoning behind "hands off control panel and in neutral at a stop". I was taught that you should remain in first gear well away from vehicle in front so that you can move away quickly from harms way if required (eg. if vehicle behind has left braking too late). Great video by the way keep up the good work!
yes did the uk test all i can say that the trainer was great pateient etc and the exminer was equally good he made it really easy with his wit but was serious at the same time - THANKS RIOBBIE AT ATHERTON MPTC oh and BRIAN FOR THE MOD1 ( that was a nervy)
MOD 1 is really much more mind blowing than mod2, did mod1 twice, relieved it was well out of the way. Not half as nervous about mod2 !! Let's hope I pass 1st time hey !
I found Mod 1 easy but I'm really dreading Mod 2 because there's so much you could potentially fail on. I've got mine on Friday good look for your test.
hello mate great video that yoi posted its really clear and very easy to understand. Iv'e got my module 2 test on the 2nd of september hope i pass as i have a suzuki sv650 that i really want to go out on :)
the whole point of the videos (and the advanced training videos that will follow soon) is to de-mystify riding tests in general, make it more accessible and cost effective to all and to promote safer riding in general
let us know how you get on with your test and any questions fire away.
remember! there is no replacement for having an instructor giving you feedback about your riding as each region differs from another
passed today was nerve racking - examiner was actually a laugh - scouse lad at Atherton funny as fuck he was - and thanks to LTL RIDER in heywood i got thru
notice you advice going into nutral at the light?. is it a minor if you dont? reson i ask is because I ride a ybr125, and, in nearly every way (as a budget learner/ cheap communter bike) they are normally good bikes, but they do have a prob with them, where they can stay in nutral once place there.
not unless waiting for a long time at traffic lights & holding clutch in. u wouldn't do this for a car test would u?marked under: 'MOVING AWAY & STOPPING' • MSM and PSL • Observation & blind spots • Control & co-ordination • On level & gradient • At angle & straight ahead Underpinning Knowledge • Co-ordination of throttle, clutch & footbrake **(• or Handbrake & steering!)** • Where & when to look & what to look for • Suitable stopping places • Signals when necessary
Shame YBR125 has that common gearbox problem. They all have it, as its a design issue. You can randomly find that when going from 1st to 2nd, you actually end-up in nutral and rev the hell out of the engine (no matter how used to bike), and if placed in nutral, you can find that when you go to kick into 1st, the green nutral light stays on and the bike stays in nutral. You have to pull clutch right in and open again, and it might work.
because i'd slowed down at this point & its advisable to check your shoulder before speeding up again, in case of overtaking traffic cutting into your lane to turn left.
for example,see my video 'Pre-Practical Test Example: Intermediate Learner' & look at 2.45- its the same location- yet this time a biker's filtering past & turning left
it is also a good idea to check mirrors before changing speed or direction.(incorporate a lifesaver at junctions & overtakes as well)
dont question them. they're all pointless ;) but they are a requirement.
looking both ways at a junction is what i would consider a "life saver". but it seems they want you to give your self wiplash from moving your head around before they consider you to be a safe rider :D
Helpful video. I have taken two lessons before but own my own bike. I noticed that you said to ride over speedbumps, but I was taught to avoid them if there was an island beside it (protecting me from oncoming traffic) or if there was no oncoming traffic..can you explain which is right and why?
Also, I noticed at 6:45 there was no left lifesaver...I know that going onto the roundabout will eventually be a right turn, but going onto it is usually a straight or left turn. Which is right? Great videos btw, doing my test asap!
if you look at 3:25 and 3:40 you'll see there are just R/H lifesavers before entering the roundabout. if you want to check your L/H side too before entering that's fine, but in reality there should be no one undertaking you on the left of your lane (in the R/H lane) passing 12 O' clock on entering a roundabout.
remember, these videos are only to be used in conjunction with proper training from your instructor- if in doubt follow your instructor's advice.
the answer is 'six of one, half a dozen of the other' mate.
in the maiden city, for the purposes of the DOE test, pupils are advised to ride OVER speedbumps, since they are traffic calming-restrictions- and their purpose is to slow traffic down in residential areas, so should be treated with care AND by slowing down whilst traversing them.
your examiner will want to see a sound understanding of -and appropriate reaction to- the conditions.
also, see rules 52 and 131 on pages 14 and 34 of the highway code for northern ireland.e.g:
"131.on some roads there are features such as road humps, chicanes and narrowings which are intended to slow you down.when you approach these features reduce your speed..maintain a reduced speed along the whole of the stretch of road within the calming measures.give way to oncoming traffic if directed to do so by signs.."
take the advice of your instructor these videos are only for information purposes
Wow, thanks for the thorough responses! These videos are great. Just booked my off-road test (that's the manoeuvres, right?) for 17th Feb. It's a shame there isn't a centre in Belfast yet.
that's right mate. use your own bike and practice, practice, practice for the new manoeuvres test. had two pupils go through the other day in newbuildings no problems- now their big day is on the 2nd of february! good luck and if i can be of assistance let me know
I will, have to travel to Mallusk to do the manoeuvres test and since I have my own bike I often practice in parking lots with my friend. Thanks for the help.
at 1:19 are you supposed to check mirrors, lifesaver indicate then another life saver, then move/
G00g284 1 month ago
@G00g284 think: OSMPSL (Observation Signal Manoeuvre Position Speed Look). Observation (mirror- speed of following/ overtaking traffic?) & blind spot (to check both the blind area & alert other drivers that you may change direction). Signal (right indicator & arm signal if necessary but arm is usually not needed). Position (ready to change lanes). Speed (do you need to adjust it to get into a gap?) Look (Mirror & blind spot; to re- assess the traffic situation before you commit).OK? :-)
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 month ago
@learn2rideVIDEOS I am learning to ride too, and I think I am doing the same as G00g284.
In the 'Observation' part I am just checking the mirrors (ie no blind spot check at this point).
It's not until the 'Look' part that I check the blindspot (just before actually changing position).
gpfwestie 1 month ago
@gpfwestie The purpose of the first blind spot check is to not only check for a road user parallel to you but also to control the traffic situation. In accordance with the Highway Code (Road users requiring extra care 204-225 motorcyclists): "If they look over their shoulder it could mean that they intend to pull out, turn right or change direction. Give them time and space to do so."
Follow the advice of your instructor as he/ she will know what is required in your specific region.
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 month ago
EXCELLENT VIDEOS, THE NO SOUND MAKES YOU CONCENTRATE ON THE VIDEO MORE AND TAKE THE INFORMATION IN
my bad about caps couldn't be bothered to re type.
G00g284 1 month ago
heh nice
svengalie 1 month ago
3:27 Indicate when going straight on over a roundabout?!
nemtizz 1 month ago
@nemtizz in this case, yes. It is a mini roundabout & there is less space to manoeuvre & signal so reduce speed & treat as a normal RB.
Few other tips: make sure any vehicle on the RB leaves before you join, be wary of vehicles on the RB doing u -turns, do not ride over the white painted area (esp. when wet), scan for road surface hazards diesel, metal drain covers, etc. Be aware of pedestrians & cyclists in the area & expect large vehicles (& poor drivers) to go over the white circle
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 month ago
@learn2rideVIDEOS Man im pretty confident i can do the module 2 test without a practice lesson. SO HYPED i just want to get my test done so i can never think about it again my CBT runs out on SEPTEMBER 30TH so i've got a while to practice a bit more.
One thing i'm not 100% sure on is when you stop at a light are you supposed to do just a right life saver, or does it depend what lane your in?
say you were in the middle lane, you would do a left and right life saver?
G00g284 1 month ago
@G00g284 Well, here's a question: what do you think you should do? What is the purpose of rear observation before moving away? And where are the hazards likely to be in relation to you on the machine?
It is always advisable to consult a reputable instructor before you take your test (by 'reputable' I mean, 'well-qualified' & not just a business card/ phone number that a local dealer hands you, because making a profit for both parties is usually the reason behind it) to help you pass.
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 month ago
@learn2rideVIDEOS The purpose of the rear observation is to check for any vehicle that may be trying to overtake you or on the side of you that you wish to turn also it could be used to check for any hazards that may be approaching E.G a speeding car in the distance, you could then adjust to the situation.
and i'm not sure what you mean with the second question but if i had a guess i would say that the hazards in relation to me on the machine is 360 degree as they could be anywhere.
G00g284 1 month ago
@G00g284 "Rear Observation - there are five times that you will need to do observations: speeding up (incl. pulling away), slowing down, moving or turning to the left, moving or turning to the right & when there is the potential to slow down (such as approaching traffic lights). Forget any one of these & you will get at least a driver fault; but change lanes, for example, without doing an observation & this will often be considered a serious fault."
Is it unsafe to check both sides?
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 month ago
@learn2rideVIDEOS Yes i believe in some circumstances it is unsafe to check both sides
G00g284 1 month ago
@G00g284 From the point of view of an examiner when you are stopped at a red light, as you suggested, would he/ she think it unsafe if you checked both left and right before moving away? EG: Could there be a cyclist on your left (did you check for the cycle lane?) and an overtaking cyclist/ motorcyclist on your right? What do you think (if you were the examiner)? Safe and legal?
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 month ago
@learn2rideVIDEOS well when you put it like that, i would say it is safe and it has to be legal because i don't think moving your head is illegal :)
so what are you saying i should check both sides before moving off eveytime.
YOUR CONFUSING ME lol
G00g284 1 month ago
@G00g284 if you wish to check both left and right blindspots before moving away you can. Normally a right check is sufficient (not just to check the blindspot but also to alert other vehicle drivers as to your intention to change position or move away (see Highway Code).
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 month ago
@nemtizz if you are looking for further info about RBs in general click on the link in the description below the vid for the Learn2Ride Facebook Notes..
There is a lot of information about gear, test requirements, procedures & motorcycle road - riding in general & the Notes section is being continually updated. (Takes time when it is all being done from scratch by one person though).
If you're on Facebook, why not like the page & stay updated?
Thanks for commenting, Learn2Ride
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 month ago
You don't have to go over the speed bumps. Only if it's not safe to go around them.
rankore69 2 months ago
Dam just wondering do you have to go over speed bumps during the test, I was told by my cbt instructor that you always go around them if you can to keep constant speed ?
MySmilerz 4 months ago
Well my friend i thank you for this video, i wish i had watched it before my mod 2, i passed my mod 1 fine, the mistake i made is i didnt eat for 12 hours before my test loosing concentration during my test accidently rolling the bike back less than 1 foot, also apprently i didnt stop at a zebra crossing, but by law i should have to unless there on it or waiting, failed due to dangerouse driving 7 years on the road on a 125 and i failed, rebooked for this friday wish me luck.
skullkiller123 5 months ago 2
Passed my test today :-) thanks to your wonderful videos :P thanks again!
DanBarns92 6 months ago 5
@DanBarns92 Glad to hear it Daniel and well done.
learn2rideVIDEOS 6 months ago 2
Just wondering, When I take my module 2...Do I signal right and then left to go straight over at a roundabout or just signal left when leaving it (near the exit i want)? Thanks.
DanBarns92 6 months ago
@DanBarns92 usually when passing 12 o' clock, stay in the left lane with no left or right signal on approach but do perform rear observation & signal left after the exit before the one you wish to take.
Incidentally as the term 'straight ahead' is usually not used in case the pupil misinterprets the phrase to mean, 'go straight ahead' & mistakenly pull out in front of traffic coming from the right (which usually has priority).
Google 'facebook learn2ride' & look in the Notes section for info!
learn2rideVIDEOS 6 months ago
actually a vid from n.ireland i live hear here very clear and helpful! I have a question I currently have an L license will I have to do a CBT before I take lessons for a full bike licence?
jamezzzzzz1986 7 months ago
@jamezzzzzz1986 if you had provisional entitlement before 21st Feb 2011 you have a 'grace period' to take and pass your test (until Feb 2012 if I recall) . If you go to the Learn2ride website (the link should be in the info/ description for this vid) and click on the CBT page you'll see the info you need. Will send a message to your inbox too.
learn2rideVIDEOS 7 months ago
@learn2rideVIDEOS thanks much appreciated mate.
jamezzzzzz1986 7 months ago
@LeeWoodsPhotography will send you a message on our Learn2Ride Facebook page since we've been chatting recently
learn2rideVIDEOS 8 months ago
I was wondering if you could help clear something up for me, I was failed on my test on wednesday because i indicated right to move away from a stationary position on the left side of the road. The examiner said that i should not have indicated at all when moving away. Looking in the highway code it says that you should indicate and everyone that i have spoken to has said that you have to indicate when moving off. Any advice on what to do?
Huntster93 8 months ago
@Huntster93 Where did you do your test? UK? What fault exactly was recorded on your report sheet? Did your signal affect another road user at the time (EG: cause them to swerve/ brake/ swear)? Did you receive any other faults at all on your sheet?
learn2rideVIDEOS 8 months ago
@learn2rideVIDEOS I done the test in Darlington, North East England. He gave me 4 minors on Rear Observation Signalling, he asked me to pull over to the left side of the road 4 times, so it looks as though he has gave a minor for each time. 4 minors goes to a serious fault im guessing? No road users were affected at the time, i was at the left side and slightly behind a parked car. I recieved 1 minor in 5 different sections, so if it wasnt for the indicator problem i would have passed.
Huntster93 8 months ago
@learn2rideVIDEOS Also its not the first time this examiner has failed me, the first time he failed me for "not using the back brake as much as the front" which i thought was very unfair considering its supposed to be 75% front, 25% back. Also i did the exact same thing with the indicator on the first test and he didnt mention anything about it in that test. There is also the fact the examiner and my instructor hate each other and dont get along at all, maybe this is influencing his testing?
Huntster93 8 months ago
@Huntster93 it is certainly not for me to say or speculate as the examiner's decision is final. What fault was recorded in your report sheet for the brake fault exactly please?
learn2rideVIDEOS 8 months ago
@learn2rideVIDEOS the examiner gave me 9 minors in Control Rear Brake, he explained after that i wasnt using the back brake as much as the front and thats why he failed me. I only recieved 2 other minors in that test
Huntster93 8 months ago
@Huntster93 if you are on Facebook, search for learn2ride and read the discussion on our wall about this topic. Hopefully that will help answer your questions? Sending you the link now to your inbox.
learn2rideVIDEOS 8 months ago
I was wondering if you HAVE to have a geared 125cc, that meets the right power requirements; when you are doing the A1 test, at 17 years old?? Thanks
TheOnlyWayIsJezz 8 months ago
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learn2rideVIDEOS 8 months ago
@learn2rideVIDEOS Hi i was wondering the same - i would be grateful if you could inbox me the details. Cheers :)
xGunno 8 months ago
@xGunno You have friend lock enabled. if you disable it let me know and I can send you the info
learn2rideVIDEOS 8 months ago
@learn2rideVIDEOS Hi, i have disabled it. Many thanks :)
xGunno 8 months ago
@xGunno sending the info now
HTH
learn2rideVIDEOS 8 months ago
Quick few questions, i'm 16 years on a 50cc moped for now but 17 in december and will be doing this, from what i've seen of module 1 isn't it just the off road practical of the CBT but on a bigger bike? And Module 2 just looks like a beefed up version of the CBT on road but you can fail, what kind of things do people generally fail on as i'd like to get into the habit of doing these now on a moped so its 2nd nature for the test. Thanks!
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learn2rideVIDEOS 8 months ago
ppl i get it all safe riding and all that shit but i wanna see even this dick riding it 30mph bollocks ... i dont belive it man . saw that car going past him lol i cant belive that in real life he will be dragging in the left lane on the bike when all around just go 40 lol in the cars let tell what happens in real life he will get into the leftest lane possible and throttle the fuck out of it so he is alon in front and no dick will smash into him or just pull out in front of him
denizio20 9 months ago
at 05:51. why does the foot have to be on the rear brake, because when the lights change you would have to take the foot off so that on the left foot you kick into 1st. wouldnt it be quicker to hold the front brake (still have the bike in neutral) but have your left foot resting on the gears so that as soon as the lights change you can kick down straight away. or would i fail for doing that?
uLikeTrance 9 months ago
@uLikeTrance Good point & as with all things motorcycling,the answer is, "It depends." Usually, hill starts are easier using back brake, allows improved stability & slow speed control, EG: coming to a standstill or filtering at walking pace where you might have to stop suddenly/ descending a steep hill. Also allows you to show a brake light & improve visibility to traffic behind.Holding the bike on the rear brake may reduce the risk of losing control if you are hit at low speed from behind too.
learn2rideVIDEOS 9 months ago
@learn2rideVIDEOS are you expected to filter traffic on the test, and what is the point in training for the test with the instructors when you could just do the test if you fail retake it and remember what you did wrong?
G00g284 1 month ago
@G00g284 You are expected to make safe, sensible progress on your test although, usually, filtering is not required. (However, under ''Meet, Cross, Overtake Other Traffic: including Separation Distance, Adequate Clearance & Anticipation'' teaching the safety aspects of filtering is an element that an instructor may be tested on. Have a look for my video, 'Filtering tips' for further info.
Training with an instructor is important to learn to ride safely saving you money in the long run.
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 month ago
@learn2rideVIDEOS I believe i have a very good chance of passing the module 2 without training as i keep practicing on the roads with my 125, i know what you mean by saving money in the long run but i just can't afford it right now and my CBT expires in september
I badly want the full license!
I was thinking if i pass my test i would do the advanced biker course to get better and safer at riding, also its free apparently i think its called BMF
G00g284 1 month ago
@G00g284 what about Mod 1? I've had many 'Thank you! messages sent from viewers who passed their tests watching these videos alone so please feel free to watch, practice & learn if you cannot spare the money for an instructor but DO bear in mind that these videos are examples only & not intended to replace instruction.
RE: advanced training I don't recall the BMF Blue Riband being free & you have the IAM, RoSPA & DIAmond options to choose from.
B!KESAFE is an assessment,not training
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 month ago
@learn2rideVIDEOS yeah sorry about that it is IAM i remeber him writing that down on the booklet, MOD1? yeah i need to work on that i think, i'm more worried about mod 1 than mod2 to be honest lol,
Mod1? im going to watch some of your mod 1 videos right now
I don't know if it's just me being a bighead or something but the swerve looks very easy and just a small swerve?
OFF TO WATCH UR VIDS
G00g284 1 month ago
@G00g284 Remember that the N.I. and UK offroad (Mod 1) tests differ slightly in layout and I recommend that, if you are taking your test in the UK, to look specifically for Mod 1 videos here on Youtube.
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 month ago
Thanks for this. I passed today and this was a big help.
maplin58 9 months ago 3
@maplin58 thanks & glad to hear it. Ride safe
learn2rideVIDEOS 9 months ago
imagine if you actually had to ride like this all the time.
top vid though
bigun1999999 1 year ago 6
How come you go straight over the speed bumps? i got told to always go to the left hand side of them when there is oncoming traffic and if not then you can go through the right of them?
yamahajames91 1 year ago
@yamahajames91 153 (NI): Traffic calming measures. On some roads there are
features such as road humps, chicanes & narrowings
which are intended to slow you down. When you
approach these features reduce your speed. Allow
cyclists & motorcyclists room to pass through them.
Maintain a reduced speed along the whole of the stretch
of road within the calming measures. Give way to
oncoming road users if directed to do so by signs. You
should not overtake other moving road users while in
these areas.
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 year ago
How long is the actual test? I have no experience with a street bike at all but i have 6 years experience with dirtbikes... i'm not sure if this is good or bad though lol although i really want to get my motorcycle license...how much is it to do all tests to obtain one excluding the cost of lessons. Thanks.
TheFuelFreak 1 year ago
@TheFuelFreak Sent you a quick message mate with more info
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 year ago
i always go through the side of speed bumps. never over them
Blackops272 1 year ago
@Blackops272 why please?
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 year ago
@learn2rideVIDEOS it saves my suspension and tbh it is easier going down the side (left) obviously if there is a hazzard there pot hole drain i'll go over the speed bump but thats just me
Blackops272 1 year ago
@Blackops272 fair point and, for the sake of the standard test, it is advisable to simply go over them.
Mind you there are times when it is safe to pass them on the right hand side (for example when passing a parked car) because you never know when a child will run out in front of that vehicle, nor can you assume that the door will not be flung open -even after having looked through the windows of the car for a driver- because there could be a child in the driver seat hidden out of sight.
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 year ago
@learn2rideVIDEOS we both have good points i guess it all boils down to your own judgement and what the situation is.
Blackops272 1 year ago
@Blackops272 Agreed. Adapt your riding plan depending on the traffic situation and hazards you face at that particular time (as well as anticipating the ones that are likely to occur in the next ten seconds).
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 year ago
good vid m8 very informative for learners out there. butwho actually rideslike this everyride? it wouldent be very fun every parked car u have to lifesaver, i live in blackpool and if i did lifesavers for every parked car i would crash becuase ur eyes are not on the road
insaneRideOuts666 1 year ago
@insaneRideOuts666 as you so correcly pointed out, this is for learner motorcyclists (& those with no previous two-wheeled experience) who wish to learn about the basics & how to pass the standard test.
It is my policy to inform pupils that, "The REAL learning comes after you have passed the test" & keeping your eyes on the road & constantly scanning is a big part of that as you mentioned- lifesavers are done only when necessary (in line with the System Of Motorcycle Control in Roadcraft)
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 year ago
@learn2rideVIDEOS ok fair enough, what about filtering through traffic what are your views on that.
insaneRideOuts666 1 year ago
@insaneRideOuts666 totally acceptable as long as it is legal and, more importantly, presents no danger to you. Remember! No filtering opportunity, overtake, bend -whatever- is worth your Life m8..
There is a series of videos about filtering made by the same company who created the 'Great Roads Great Rides' DVD- i cannot post a link here but will send you a message (or check the description box for this video)
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 year ago
@insaneRideOuts666 search for 'sam645461'on Youtube for the filtering videos
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 year ago
just passed my module 2 today im so f happy, yiiiiiippppppppppppppppppppppppppppppeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
billynightmare 1 year ago 3
@billynightmare excellent, glad to hear it! Ride safe, enjoy the bike & come home alive ;-)
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 year ago
@learn2rideVIDEOS thanks, well watching your vid's help me loads, a must watch for every learner motorcycle rider, fair play for up loading these vid's im sure they help alot more bikers out there so thanks :)
billynightmare 1 year ago 2
@billynightmare thanks & you're welcome. The whole point of the videos is to demistify the motorcycle test & to get more people in Britain & Ireland on two wheels- and for those already on two wheels, to start thinking more about their riding in terms of how they deal with junctions, cornering, left & right hand bends, hazards, etc. I personally highly recommend now going for IAM or RoSPA training billynightmare because the real learning starts after you pass your test! well done mate enjoy ;-)
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 year ago
Good for the 'soft' items, such as how wide to go round parked cars.
dunbustin 1 year ago
how far over my shoulder is reguarded as swannecking?i dont want to be failed for looking too far
peddleandcrank 1 year ago
@peddleandcrank 'swan-necking' is a term used for poor road positioning where riders attempt to swing widely in and out of junctions to avoid using slow control and the fault tends to be marked under steering.
as for the lifesaver, there is usually no need for a 180 degree rearward look (except perhaps changing lanes on a motorway). A lifesaver glance in your the blind spot on the left or right is sufficient (perhaps +/- 90 degrees) and use your mirrors for rear observation
Hope this helps?
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 year ago
Are you looking around alot because you are emphasising the need to look or do you really get marked down for not looking up to three times?
Blurredman 1 year ago
@Blurredman See "Rear Observation - there are really only five times that you will need to do observations. These are: speeding up (including pulling away), slowing down, moving or turning to the left, moving or turning to the right & when there is the potential to slow down (such as approaching traffic lights). Forget any one of these & you will get at least a driver fault; but change lanes, for example, without doing an observation and this will often be considered a serious fault." HTH?
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 year ago
I think Module 1 was the hardest, even the examiner said it as well. Mod 2 is on the road "cautious riding" not so much a test in that sense. Great videos.
VCRAGE 1 year ago
@learn2rideVIDEOS Hi and thanks for all the videos, they very helpful. Can I just ask in a Left Turn Procedure why it is necessary to do a lifesaver over your right shoulder? As my instructor hasn't taught me to do this and I am unsure as everyones views seem to differ. Many thanks.
OliDuncan 1 year ago
@OliDuncan hi, please have a look at my vid 'Called LIFESAVER for a reason' to further explain. Hope this helps!
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 year ago
@learn2rideVIDEOS That's the clearest anyone could of put it!!!! Thank you.
OliDuncan 1 year ago
@OliDuncan you're very welcome. Please always be on the lookout for traffic on your right (offside) that may cut in front of you when you are about to turn left- it happens esp. when roads narrow, on the approach to junctions, at motorway exits & on roundabouts to name but a few.. many drivers are impatient & try to pass as many vehicles as possible before veering left in order to save time- at the risk of the m'cyclist OliDuncan. A simple blindspot check can help keep you upright & alive.
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 year ago
Why would you go into neutral when stopped? - we were told to go into first gear before stopping so you don't have to fiddle with gears. The bike I rented for my test is very hard to get into neutral, it won't go into neutral at all from first gear and finding it from second can take a while. Will I be marked down for not going into neutral?
rgaufman 1 year ago
@rgaufman most examiners in N.I. require this for the riding test so that, should anything happen, the gears are not engaged on the machine. (A very sad case to illustrate the point, there was a rider in UK at traffic lights on an R1 behind a lorry if I recall correctly, with the clutch in & first gear engaged. Apparently the rider's hand slipped for whatever reason & the bike lurched forward, causing the rider to go under the stationary lorry resulting in a broken neck..RIP..So easily avoided)
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 year ago
@learn2rideVIDEOS for the UK test wasn't required to go into neutral and wasn't required to indicate to overtake parked cars. Passed earlier today, so happy! :)
Sad story about the R1 - if the Lorry was stationary, how did he break his neck? - that's tragic :( - on a 125cc or 250cc at least, the engine just stalls but I've been getting in the habit of getting into neutral during normal riding, but kept it in first for the test as there's enough to worry about.
rgaufman 1 year ago
@rgaufman Excellent & well done! Thanks for the info for other learners too.
As for the R1 rider, he basically went under the large, metal, vehicle crash-bar assembly situated at the rear of most lorries.. you are right, it is tragic & could've been avoided- like so many motorcycle 'accidents' (remember that the word 'accident' implies simply 'bad luck' -but, with a little thought on the rider's behalf, most collisions can be avoided.
Congrats on passing & well done mate
Ride safe
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 year ago
What was the point in that lifesaver? 0:52 You were not changing direction.
GuitarMasterGraeme 1 year ago
@GuitarMasterGraeme the point of the lifesaver is to negate the possibility of colliding with another motorcycle that may be overtaking you at that point.
Imagine for example, you are sitting stationary at a set of traffic lights whilst another motorcycle a few car lengths behind is filtering through traffic. when the lights change the following motorcycle will already be travelling whereas you will be moving off thus, it is entirely possible that motorcycle will overtake you.
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 year ago
@learn2rideVIDEOS
mmmm i see your point, thanks.
GuitarMasterGraeme 1 year ago
@GuitarMasterGraeme also consider that Rule 135 of the Highway Code applies:
"Before Moving Off': use mirrors to check road is clear, look round to check the blind spots (areas you are unable to see in the mirrors), signal if necessary (before pulling out), look round for a final check."
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 year ago
@GuitarMasterGraeme it was to check no one was about to cut infront of him.
Olliedfox 1 year ago
not much mention on mirror checks here? i was taught (over last 3 months till passed 1 week ago) to do mirror checks regularly in fact average every 10 secs is how often you should be conducting mirror checks. just how i was taught tho not saying im right. lol
mynewflatrocks 1 year ago
@mynewflatrocks if you watch my narrated vids (part 1&2) you'll see there's a lot of emphasis on mirror checks as you pointed out
on average every 7 seconds is apparently the optimal time to check your mirrors to update your rear view (as well as when changing speed or direction). it is a good point you raise & one i wish more bikers would follow!
more importantly though is how you react to what you see in your mirrors- especially if other road users have reacted to your signals (or not!)
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 year ago 2
@learn2rideVIDEOS respect. i concour. thanks for the mature reply too. stay safe all.
mynewflatrocks 1 year ago
@mynewflatrocks kudos mate stay safe
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 year ago
during this video you stop at lights and only do a right hand life saver why no left when pulling off? and i was also told to go to the left of speed bumps? i only ask as i have my test in 2 days thanks in advance
skinredbeliver 1 year ago
good questions- it varies from examiner to examiner, some are happy with a right lifesaver only before moving away, others prefer you to check both right AND left before moving off (for cyclists, motorcycles,vehicles passing on the inside of your lane/undertaking,etc). it also depends on the road and traffic conditions at the time, the number of lanes, whether or not you are filtering etc...
why not ask a local instructor and take their advice? and ask about the speed bumps too as regions vary!
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 year ago
@learn2rideVIDEOS thanks for the speedy response and will ask thankyou again =)
skinredbeliver 1 year ago
arr. need help. i am 17 years old. and i see my self as a fairly decent confident rider. I am a confident person . As i am a salesman but when it comes to bike test im not. i feel agitated and uncomftable when someone is staring at my riding . and i will get nervous and feel my heart pound. i did module 1 training and my instuctor said absolutally excellent. but did my test and got 2 minors. due to me bein nervous . has anyone got any tips for me plz plz plz .
thundertigershark 1 year ago
that helped me thx ill be doing this some time this 2months, but i have one question and thats why do you have to indicate if your going straight over the round about? and when u go into netural and your right foot is on the brake, theres a point were both feet are on the ground arent they to go back into first?
insanebeard 1 year ago
@insanebeard In accordance with the Highway Code, you must indicate after the exit before the one you wish to take. So if there is an exit to your left (and you are taking that exit) you would indicate left on approach. However if you are proceeding straight ahead, then you would not indicate on approach, you'd pass the first exit to your left and simply signal after you have passed it (before the one you wish to take).
And yes there are times when you alternate your feet between gear and brake
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 year ago
@insanebeard have a search for this on youtube and you will get the idea:
Driving Lessons - Roundabouts - Learning to drive - BSM
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 year ago
Great video, ive learnt alot from this. Cheers
bradp93 1 year ago 6
you're very welcome
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 year ago
Has the practical changed much since this was filmed ? as i start a course on saturday. Cheers
bradp93 1 year ago
@bradp93 there have been no changes in the practical test as far as i am concerned.
good luck on your course and pay attention to your instructor!
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 year ago
@learn2rideVIDEOS Just FYI - U-Turns and Controlled Stops are not part of the Module Two test element any more, as they are covered in the Module One element.
The most they will ask you to do is to perform a 'pull-away', probably from behind a parked car.
JWRPayne 1 year ago
@JWRPayne you are absolutely correct, i was referring to the on-road elements
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 year ago
i done 2 cbt's and i been driving for almost 4 years, im gonna do my theory this week and my test the following week after i pass my theory, i have never in my whole fucking life been so stressed out!!!!! im so scared of failing!
question.
im gonna use my own bike for the test, the back brake is ok not very good but the front brake is good. will that be ok? or do they both need to be dope?
question: i got the best contact lences possible and i dnt think my sight is good enuff. any tips?
truricheslvl3 2 years ago
Both brakes need to be in good working order.
as for getting the best lenses, here's a tip: you should've gone to specsavers mate (sorry, couldn't resist! stupid joke I know..)
as long as you can read a numberplate from a distance of 20metres that should suffice
learn2rideVIDEOS 1 year ago
congrats! where did you do the test? N.I. or UK?
remember this video is just a demonstration of the standard of riding required for an N.I test.
In UK, observation of the OSM/PSL routine is usually sufficient whereas in N.I. it is usually LSML. Remember there are regional variations & even examiners differ in their opinions
On my RoSPA & IAM Advanced tests, lifesavers are generally replaced by mirror work & must be done if in any doubt between Info & Position stages (unlike a basic test)
learn2rideVIDEOS 2 years ago
I took mine in Leicestershire in England so I yeah you're right it will differ in region. In my opinion, failing for travelling through speedbumps would be extremely harsh if you're slowing down to go through them like you would if you went over one. The OSM, again in my opinion, is a tad too much for me. Just 1 look over your shoulder before changing lane/overtaking a moving or parked vehicle I find is sufficient enough. But examiners are tough, so for the test I did it like they wanted.
MageKing289IsBack 2 years ago
Good to hear you passed mate! ride safe and remember to pay a visit to the IAM or RoSPA for more training, it's worthwhile
learn2rideVIDEOS 2 years ago
I passed my test in october and I found it relatively easy. I think this video shows some irrelevant information in some places, like travelling OVER speed bumps. I travelled between them on my test and didn't receive a single mention of it from my examiner. The 2 right shoulder checks before passing a parked car isn't needed too. 1 is plenty. Too much looking around like that is not needed at all.
MageKing289IsBack 2 years ago
thx for the video, its really good and showing everything exactly what i was learning on the course. my mod2 Monday
lurek100 2 years ago 2
good luck with your test lurek100!
learn2rideVIDEOS 2 years ago
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lurek100 2 years ago
Hi, im thinking of going for motorbike lessons, but i want to know how it works. how long does it take. i already have a drivers license, but how different are motorbikelessons. do the courses prepare you fully in 1or 2 days or is it longer?...putting aside the waiting time for thr practical test.
kicksextremez 2 years ago
if you already have a full UK car licence that should grant you provisional entitlement to ride a machine upto but not over 125cc. check the categories on the back of your licence.
as for time- it all depends on where you take your test. if you take your test in the UK you can prepare for CBT in one day I believe depending on training schools in your area and direct access is similar.
it all depends on how quickly you learn and pick up on your own faults. remember every pupil differs!
learn2rideVIDEOS 2 years ago
im in the UK, yes. but one thing im confused about, im currently 19 years old. if i pass my test will it allow me to ride ANY size bike,or am i still limited?
kicksextremez 2 years ago
if you are 19 you do not qualify, i believe, for direct access as the age limit is 21 and above therefore you will be restricted for two years
learn2rideVIDEOS 2 years ago
In the UK, the rule is you have to have 2 years of experience after passing your test and be at least 21 years of age before you are allowed to ride machines that are not limited to 33bhp. However, you can take a direct access scheme at the age of 21 if you haven't had the 2 years after passing your test and, upon passing your DA, you may ride any motorcycle of any power. I wouldn't reccomend leaping from a 125 to a 1000cc motorcycle, a 600cc would be more than enough of an upgrade. Ride safe.
MageKing289IsBack 2 years ago
i agree.
CBT is now in the process of being introduced to N.I. alongwith the Direct Access Scheme and, if the N.I test mirrors that of UK, here's some food for thought: the powers that be are thinking of introducing a further stepped test between CC classes post-test so if it happens in N.I. there is a possibility it will happen in UK also. i do not think it is a bad idea when progressing from a 125/250/400/600cc machine to a 1000cc machine for example
learn2rideVIDEOS 2 years ago
these restrictions are stupid, first its cc restriction then its power output. its entirely possible to get a 125 that is 33bhp or 25kWh so i could ride a bike on a cbt that i am restricted to after test.
Gizmorun 2 years ago
2 years exp OR 21+ and DAS.
Gizmorun 2 years ago
is there any kind of clothing i should wear when im going for my bike test. ie leathers or a hi vis vest?
CHEZZYTOAST 2 years ago
by law, all you are required to wear is a helmet.
but! if you value your own skin whilst riding a bike, then a pair of gloves is a MUST!
(closely followed by good boots, a jacket and trousers) it also creates a good impression on the examiner turning up properly suited and booted as opposed to trainers and bare hands
you can wear a hi viz vest if necessary (see highway code) but it's not compulsory for your test
does help make you conspicuous though!
learn2rideVIDEOS 2 years ago
thnx :) it a real help
CHEZZYTOAST 2 years ago 2
i want to do my bike test but im very nervy but after watching this i dont feel as bad it helped alot thnx
CHEZZYTOAST 2 years ago 6
you're welcome!
just make sure to check with a local instructor- there may be subtle differences.
let us know how you get on and good luck
learn2rideVIDEOS 2 years ago
for purposes of N.I test, it is for 'machine sympathy' (not putting strain on clutch waiting at a set of traffic lights for two mins with it pulled in for example)
also to stop the bike suddenly crashing into the rear of the car in front- eg should your hand slip etc because the machine is in gear.
you need only put the machine in gear when you are ready to go.
'eco-riding' goes one further & suggests whilst waiting for any period of time you hit the kill switch to save petrol & environment!
learn2rideVIDEOS 2 years ago
Eco riding hahahha. Theyreally are clueless. Just like to say your videos are helpful - i passed first time today. As you say below about demystifying the test - my examiner actually gave me minors where he could have failed because i had shown i was competent- they're not all out to get you.l
philbertfwog 2 years ago
nice one and congratulations mate!
learn2rideVIDEOS 2 years ago
Well Done, what were the errors, I have my mod 2 next week, not really looking forward to it, but got to get it done now !
Any tips ???
kadajtheremnant 2 years ago
Quick question: Can I ask the reasoning behind "hands off control panel and in neutral at a stop". I was taught that you should remain in first gear well away from vehicle in front so that you can move away quickly from harms way if required (eg. if vehicle behind has left braking too late). Great video by the way keep up the good work!
theflashhurricane 2 years ago 2
yes did the uk test all i can say that the trainer was great pateient etc and the exminer was equally good he made it really easy with his wit but was serious at the same time - THANKS RIOBBIE AT ATHERTON MPTC oh and BRIAN FOR THE MOD1 ( that was a nervy)
ashmahmoodroc 2 years ago
MOD 1 is really much more mind blowing than mod2, did mod1 twice, relieved it was well out of the way. Not half as nervous about mod2 !! Let's hope I pass 1st time hey !
kadajtheremnant 2 years ago
good luck and hope you pass! let us know how you get on
learn2rideVIDEOS 2 years ago
I found Mod 1 easy but I'm really dreading Mod 2 because there's so much you could potentially fail on. I've got mine on Friday good look for your test.
BritishRider 2 years ago
hello mate great video that yoi posted its really clear and very easy to understand. Iv'e got my module 2 test on the 2nd of september hope i pass as i have a suzuki sv650 that i really want to go out on :)
thearborist87 2 years ago 3
good man and thanks for that.
the whole point of the videos (and the advanced training videos that will follow soon) is to de-mystify riding tests in general, make it more accessible and cost effective to all and to promote safer riding in general
let us know how you get on with your test and any questions fire away.
remember! there is no replacement for having an instructor giving you feedback about your riding as each region differs from another
ride safe
learn2rideVIDEOS 2 years ago
you're more than welcome mate and i am glad you passed!
did you also undergo training with your instructor? (LTL rider)?
did he/she point out any differences?
learn2rideVIDEOS 2 years ago
too right watched them every night for the last 6 weeks they where brilliant - helped put in perspective what was really required - thanks
ashmahmoodroc 2 years ago 3
passed today was nerve racking - examiner was actually a laugh - scouse lad at Atherton funny as fuck he was - and thanks to LTL RIDER in heywood i got thru
ashmahmoodroc 2 years ago 2
good man!
since you did the test in UK, did these videos help in any way? or were there differences you want to highlight for the rest of the youtube viewers?
congrats!
learn2rideVIDEOS 2 years ago
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geoffart 2 years ago
notice you advice going into nutral at the light?. is it a minor if you dont? reson i ask is because I ride a ybr125, and, in nearly every way (as a budget learner/ cheap communter bike) they are normally good bikes, but they do have a prob with them, where they can stay in nutral once place there.
geoffart 2 years ago
learn2rideVIDEOS 2 years ago
I dont drive a car unfortunatly.
Shame YBR125 has that common gearbox problem. They all have it, as its a design issue. You can randomly find that when going from 1st to 2nd, you actually end-up in nutral and rev the hell out of the engine (no matter how used to bike), and if placed in nutral, you can find that when you go to kick into 1st, the green nutral light stays on and the bike stays in nutral. You have to pull clutch right in and open again, and it might work.
geoffart 2 years ago
good vid.
why right hand lifesaver at 50sec in to vid?
geoffart 2 years ago
good question!
because i'd slowed down at this point & its advisable to check your shoulder before speeding up again, in case of overtaking traffic cutting into your lane to turn left.
for example,see my video 'Pre-Practical Test Example: Intermediate Learner' & look at 2.45- its the same location- yet this time a biker's filtering past & turning left
it is also a good idea to check mirrors before changing speed or direction.(incorporate a lifesaver at junctions & overtakes as well)
learn2rideVIDEOS 2 years ago
dont question them. they're all pointless ;) but they are a requirement.
looking both ways at a junction is what i would consider a "life saver". but it seems they want you to give your self wiplash from moving your head around before they consider you to be a safe rider :D
Vexx560 2 years ago 2
good point
learn2rideVIDEOS 2 years ago
Helpful video. I have taken two lessons before but own my own bike. I noticed that you said to ride over speedbumps, but I was taught to avoid them if there was an island beside it (protecting me from oncoming traffic) or if there was no oncoming traffic..can you explain which is right and why?
b33p 3 years ago
Also, I noticed at 6:45 there was no left lifesaver...I know that going onto the roundabout will eventually be a right turn, but going onto it is usually a straight or left turn. Which is right? Great videos btw, doing my test asap!
b33p 3 years ago
if you look at 3:25 and 3:40 you'll see there are just R/H lifesavers before entering the roundabout. if you want to check your L/H side too before entering that's fine, but in reality there should be no one undertaking you on the left of your lane (in the R/H lane) passing 12 O' clock on entering a roundabout.
remember, these videos are only to be used in conjunction with proper training from your instructor- if in doubt follow your instructor's advice.
learn2rideVIDEOS 3 years ago
the answer is 'six of one, half a dozen of the other' mate.
in the maiden city, for the purposes of the DOE test, pupils are advised to ride OVER speedbumps, since they are traffic calming-restrictions- and their purpose is to slow traffic down in residential areas, so should be treated with care AND by slowing down whilst traversing them.
your examiner will want to see a sound understanding of -and appropriate reaction to- the conditions.
if in doubt, take your instructor's advice
learn2rideVIDEOS 3 years ago
also, see rules 52 and 131 on pages 14 and 34 of the highway code for northern ireland.e.g:
"131.on some roads there are features such as road humps, chicanes and narrowings which are intended to slow you down.when you approach these features reduce your speed..maintain a reduced speed along the whole of the stretch of road within the calming measures.give way to oncoming traffic if directed to do so by signs.."
take the advice of your instructor these videos are only for information purposes
learn2rideVIDEOS 3 years ago
Wow, thanks for the thorough responses! These videos are great. Just booked my off-road test (that's the manoeuvres, right?) for 17th Feb. It's a shame there isn't a centre in Belfast yet.
b33p 3 years ago
that's right mate. use your own bike and practice, practice, practice for the new manoeuvres test. had two pupils go through the other day in newbuildings no problems- now their big day is on the 2nd of february! good luck and if i can be of assistance let me know
learn2rideVIDEOS 3 years ago
I will, have to travel to Mallusk to do the manoeuvres test and since I have my own bike I often practice in parking lots with my friend. Thanks for the help.
b33p 3 years ago
you are welcome
take your time tomorrow, relax and remember all your instructor taught you and you will be fine.
please see the video responses for more information (two of which are narrated for clarity).
good luck and you will be fine (fingers crossed)
learn2rideVIDEOS 3 years ago