My point is that every group, order, club, left or right wants you to conform. You suggest that the left hand path is less or nonconformist but even the left hand path members I know have conformed to be like their higher members and leaders.
Your point is well taken. It's a matter of why an individual conforms. Is he following others out of fear or modeling himself after those who have achieved something great?
@TheIchor All sides, want you to conform at the bottom and top levels! Masons have kids who are preppys and dress a certain way. Satanists have kids who dress like Marlyn Masnson. Mormons have kids who dress in short sleeved shirts with black neck ties.
After all the work one does to get to this "higher consciousness", how do you know you are guaranteed to receive what you are so desperately looking for? How do you know that the gods (demons) will grant you access into "lodge on high"? Satan doesn't have to prove his exsistence, as long as you are willfully doing his bidding. Satan all ways uses the "wolf in sheep's clothing" sublte approach. As long as deny God, no matter how...he wins your soul.
I am becoming God. That's the point. That's what matters. There are no guarantees - not with your religion or mine. Deal with that for a minute, brother.
@TheIchor There are guarantees. There are absolutes. God is immutable and absolute. By you not acknowledging His authority and those absolutes does not change the equation or the results, for Him. For you...that is a different matter.
Now I have definitely seen it all! This guy is serious, so this is not a joke or a jibber...uhhhhhhh...only good thing in this pyramid chart are the cheerful colors! Now I have definitely seen it all... If you watch a clip to the end, you will see that satanism of Anton LaVey is on the top of LHP scale... how the fuck did he figured out that it will be an eternal mystery to me...
@Sevolod1488 Actually, from my experience it appears to be true. Most of them work for IBM and Sun Microsystms. "SUN" stands for Sustainable United Nations. They have time warp technology. From what I understand, the Nazis formed the UN after WW2. Temple of Set/Illuminati/Michael Aquino... You know what, it was such a fucked experience I wonder if we're all inside of a man's head about to blow his brains out. Seriously. That's all I have to say about that.
We are granted with free will at birth is is one of the gift from the gods.
If i was without the free will i would be lost and do something stupid; really anyone could tell me what to do and i would do it because i have no will.
If anything developing will should be one of the very first thing you gain or even start off with. How else would i want to give myself to satan or the CoC even after all the BS ive been fed as a child.
Will is actually one of the last things that human beings can acquire. You believe that you decide what to do going against nature, society, culture, upbringing, friends, family, and your own body on a consistent basis without even trying? Then praise be to you, hoss! I think we've found our new messiah.
is this stuff like 'chaos magic/pretend' where a occult system is temporarily adopted to acheve a desired goal, or do you guys really believe the dogma?.
Yes, we really believe, although there's relatively little dogma in the Cult of Cthulhu. Everything that can be verified, should be by the individual Cultist. If you aren't getting positive results over a period of time and after sincere effort, then change what you're doing.
Eventually, some will find that the CoC is not for them. And I wish them luck in their future endeavors.
The rule of three seems self-evident to me and many occultists, religionists, and scientists. Can you be more specific about 3 events being the result of 1? How about an example or two...?
@TheIchor i would agree with a limited social form of "what goes around comes around", the 3 to 1 stuff is your dogma, you can try to explain it, if you use words like god, satan, or astral bodies to explain the system you have introduced more complexity that must also be explained.
I like that you credit your sources and explain how your philosophy comes together. Most HP's etc these days are content to rip off their stuff and dis the sources they use. I think you have something here and wish you the best on this journey. X
A RC priest once tried to tell me that I had a vocation to suffer. That is because RCs tend to believe that Jesus chose to go to the cross in order to atone for the sins of the world. RCs believe that you can intentionally join your sufferings to his and help save the world, which is bullshit.
You can help save the world by direct action to change it (and Yes, that may mean that you have to accept a certain ammount of suffering). But to be a intentionally passive suffering doormat...No.
I tend to resonate far more with a Jesus, the champian of the dis-possessed/dis-enfranchized, the ideological heavy-weight behind the sicarii ...Jesus who made an onslaught on the Temple....the tax rebel, than I do with this anaemic Hollywood picture of Jesus who simply acts a part in a pre-ordained story and goes to the cross with a beatific smile on his face, as in RC Stations of the Cross. Beware of buying into the wrong mythologies.
@FireWhisp This quote shows your stupidity. Why would anyone turn vegie because he hated animals??? To turn vegie because you hate the meat industry would be both a valid ethical response and rational.....but then, what would ye know of rationality?? Nothing!!!
@FireWhisp When you learn to spell and speak properly I may furnish you with some wisdom, though you would no doubt fail to understand it as you always have.
i find it also mind blowing that this all in octave one.that means we all have to get on the ball.there is much to be realized.much mess to clean.love to see the next octave.i know im not ready for that.
i found the pryramid very easy to understand.it spoke to my symbol mindset.i really dig how rhp/rhp are same level.how christians have to ascend to lhp to realive understanding of use for their system.alot of them yell wisdom at people from the bottom.it's always exoteric stock quotes.you have a talent for teaching.
I have a bunch of questions but I will start with one already asked that I did not see your response to. Can you explain, specifically, why your "Cult of Cthulhu" is placed above Gnostic Christianity, LaVey Satanism, The Temple of Set, buddhism, and most Fourth Way schools? And before you say your group is more awake or closer to godhood please explain exactly how you are more awake and close to godhood.
A. our use of the Fourth Way in an open Left Hand Path context. B. the CoC was founded and lead by a Man # 4 who is now a Man # 6. C. our Cthulhu Mythos paradigm covers many doctrines and mythologies without being corrupted by what has come before (previous societies and cultures worshiping this God or that). Lovecraft will always have a profound, eldritch resonance throughout the occult world.
What other philosophy or religion is trying to create a new kind of nightmare?
@TheIchor Not tryin to be a pain here, but that doesn't really answer my question. I don't know what the 4th Way is, and your use of it doesn't explain how your group is on top. I don't know what man 4-6 is, but if it is grades, who apointed the guy man 4, and who promoted him to man 6? Or is he just another guy claiming to be something with no real evidence? Being in the paradigm, how can you be certain you have not been corrupted by what has come before?
I'm not surprised you are confused. How could I communicate to you what has taken me 36 years to understand? I have verified that the 4th Way can help man Awaken. I am that conscious individual who founded and lead the Cthulhu Cult to the level it's currently at.
You will not be convinced until you go through our paradigm for yourself. If you want a free PDF of our bible, just privately send me your email address.
@TheIchor ok, but before I put some time into really investigating what your claiming, how about this. You have gotten it to work for you, but have you been able to duplicate your success others? I get that you are where you say you are, but this also true for you group? Again, not trying to be a pain, but can you offer more than hyperbole and rhetoric?You are a "man 6" in your system. How many "man 5s" are there in your group?
Currently none, but I'm happy to say that there are plenty of Men # 4 which is saying something. Many Cultists are on the right track and making vast improvements to their lives. Check out the CoC forum. You'll be able to verify the success of my system for yourself, brother.
Also try googling the Fourth Way. See if people respected the teaching of Gurdjieff and Ouspensky in the past as a valid way of conscious evolution.
All magic is based on the following three things... 1. Intent 2. Gnosis or Consciousness (there are other names for this state as well) 3. Will
One could ask for anything. LaVey divided them up into Lust, Compassion, and Destruction rituals. If you receive what you want depends on a number of factors. But first, study the Fourth Way and observe yourself in daily life.
@TheIchor Don't 'destruction' rituals fall into the bracket of 'black magic'? Surely that violates a universal spiritual law of 'harm none'. I've heard that such actions will mean the harmful effects rebound back three times over.
@jtaellio11 Somebody said that she couldn't possibly have been part of a Satanist cult when she wrote about it just before 1964: it was certainly before La Vey. What would you surmise, with your knowledge of this type of thing?
No, that's bullshit. Sometimes people need to be harmed, self-defense especially. Can't make an omelette without breaking eggs. It may be "black magic" to some, but it's all Viridian Sorcery to us.
The Law of Three has other things to concern itself with. Trust me.
@TheIchor Yes, as long as you're aware of Universal Law, or rebound effects, then so be it. That doesn't sound a good course of action, in the Spiritual sense. Read Galations chp 5.
@TheIchor Don't you know your 'Dr Who'? A well made British show, where there was a morality of good fighting evil, and good always prevailing:eg In 'Pyramids of Mars' (1975) the ancient evil Egyptian God Sutekh is actually an alien, whom the Dr. eventually vanquishes, preventing the attempt to reduce the planet Earth to a radioactive cinder.
@TheIchor I have heard of it: a similar concept was utilised in Who's 1977 'Image of the Fendahl', where they discover a 12 million year old human skull with a pentagram at the back. It houses latent psychic energy, which is unleashed as the death incarnate gestalt Fendahl. The upshot is: it was either a humanoid alien artefact, which affected the development of evolving Man, or it attacked Man sometime and permeated this skull. A 'double' take story.
@TheIchor The Doctor, while not always successful, ALWAYS fought on the side of good. That was the crux of the show. In episodes like Genesis of the Daleks (1975) which had a Nazi subtext, the morality of even destroying the evolving evil Daleks was played out by the good Doctor. In Masque of Mandragora, a human religious sect, Demnos, is hijacked by the Mandragora Helix. It is the old fable of Man seeking power, only to discover that he is being used as a channel for an ancient Evil power!
I did not expect to see Buddhism on there either, Ive always been interested in the philosophy of Buddhism and Laveyan Satanism both but i need to study more on Laveyan though.
Well I admire your high expectations for the CoC.. But there is one (of many) problems with this "Pyramid". 1) In my ventures in life I have found that "Christianity" leads us(human race) towards understanding of ourselves thus FREEDOM. 2) The LHP and its so called "Do what thy will" concept has lead far to many into bondage. 3)Lavey should be nowhere near the top for he is just "reverse Christianity" and a BELLHOP as it were. A few points :)
@timishardcore Christianity leads us into bondage. It is the Gnosis which is important. Whether the gnosis travels along with the Christian, Buddhist, Hindu or Islamic caravan is no matter. What a man calls himself is of less important.
As they say, "I've seen the box, now let's unpack it".
@01blackpete1 Yes Rove very true..but the same can be said for the "Druggie"-"Alcoholic" Drop outs that call themselves Satanists or LHP. Any belief can become bondage just as anything can lead us into slavery. I myself teach it is less important how you view the Bible IE: literal,hyperbole,metaphoric ect because it is what it teaches you that is of value.
@timishardcore By Christianity I mean the Constantinian Church. This is the "undivided" Church of the east and west, later to become the RC/Orthodox split. The Protestants are simply the poor relations of Rome. The modern ecumenical movement and the WCC is a move towards a reunified Church.The Pope loves this shit as it plays right into his agenda. A Papal Church with a thin veneer of reform. The WCC gather round a load of fusty old creeds which were established in the Constantinian era.
@01blackpete1 Off the subject but I read a interesting chapter in a book that basically said Jesus was not from "Nazareth" but that he was a part of a group called "Nazarene" ?????? I have to look into it further
@Iamasideeffect That is true. Nazareth never existed at the time of Jesus infancy. Google Didache. I take this book to be early, and a true reflection of what the Jesus movement was like in the Diaspora.
@01blackpete1 Yes I realize that what we have today is not what was given to mankind back then, that much is obvious..The "Church" tells us to just grin and bare it(Paul) while Peter told us to be partakers of the divine nature.
@timishardcore That is why I dislike the RC "mysticism of suffering". My "God" rends his garments over injustice and inspires his followers to deliver some serious boot into the groin of the establishment. Pacifism plays into the hands of the State.
Being an addict or dependent on any substance/habit isn't "Do what thou will" by a long shot. Crowley strongly encouraged his students to contemplate what it was they truly wanted most of all, in the long haul, deep inside-- their Will with a capital W. Acting on immediate, impetuous impulses or being a slave to instinct or compulsion is in no way acting on one's Will.
@XiaoGui17 HOW SO??? Did they "DO" drugs by force?? NO,NO,NO.. They decided it was in their best interests as individuals to try drugs and that was done of their own free will(as stupid as it was). The problem is the the LHP idea of the "here and now" and its nearsightedness.
The Left Hand path must see near and far, the forest and the trees. Some instant gratification is OK, but let's not go crazy. To put ourselves under the influence of Higher Forces is to activate our True Will.
@TheIchor I would agree here Venger. Nearsightedness is a problem on both sides. Too far one way or the other is "Fundamentalism" whether it is RHP or LHP as far as I am concerned.
@XiaoGui17 Good question, Why did you remove the comment?? You are correct but I am not so sure I see the point to your response as far as what I said(call me stupid). The "Here and now" is a LHP thing based on the fact that many of them use it as a rallying cry for their life including ZACH(S.I.N) and Shawn Hartnell.
I removed my comment because I realized you misunderstood my first post, and I wanted to make a vid because 500 characters may not cut it. You equivocated "will" with a lowercase w and "Will" with a capital W.
From Crowley's "De Lege Libellum": “…the True Will, which is not to rest content with things partial and transitory, but to proceed firmly to the End.”
"Do What Thou Wilt" is meant to be understood in that context. Far from "here and now," it's about the big picture.
@XiaoGui17 I can agree with that ideal but the problem is that fits only a small portion of people practicing that ideal on YT. Most have said they are concerned with the here and now. Most certainly that many have not read ALL of Crowley's work so when they read a statement like "Do what thou will" Capital "W" or not they have not the understanding that you do.If you make that video I will be glad to watch it.
Most Christianity today is mechanical and not what Jesus intended. As many have said, if Jesus were living today he would not be able join, let alone lead the Christian Church.
Do what thy wilt is the essence of freedom. But one cannot be a selfish, arrogant, asshole about it. That's where the balance comes in... some compassion, altruism, and conscience is needed.
LaVey is not reverse Christianity. Have you read The Satanic Bible?
@TheIchor I own a copy of the Satanic bible my friend and I can say without reservation it is pure "Reverse" Christianity. He even made the statement on page 52(Of mine). I would have to then ask you this Have you read the Bible????
@timishardcore I just wanted to address this, if i may. "satanism" was just the carrier for Lavey's occult studies. You repeatedly hear that satanism has nothing to do with satan. This is true, satan is an archetype. It could have just as easilly been lokiism or apepism. The religon itself is meaningless, it was only a vector, a tool for spreading something more important. Lavey had dedicated years to occult study before the debut of satanism. Occultists are naturally anti christian Exodus 22:18
@TheBloodbrew Yes and No my friend.YES Anton Lavey was into Occult ideals long before he decided to start a Church but Anton chose the title "Satanism" for his ideals as a kind of SHOCK and attention getter. NO.... Only "Atheistic" Satanism has nothing to do about Satan. Good thought all the same.
You just said it all for me, Tim. LaVey's occult ideas, philosophy, and traditional Devil worship all go into his definitive brand of Satanism. Much more than just "reverse Christianity".
@TheIchor Well actually Anton was not more according to his own thoughts "The Satanic RELIGION has not merely lifted the coin-it has flipped it completely over.Therefore why should it support the very principles to which it is completely opposed by calling itself anything other than a name which is totally in keeping with the REVERSED doctrines which make up the SATANIC PHILOSOPHY" PG 52 The Satanic Bible
@timishardcore LaVey was a clown, though he had some justification for existing given the retarded state of the modern Christian who is too heavenly minded to be of any earthly good, and obsessed as he is with sexual "sins". When I say that the Christer is heavenly minded I don't forget his propensity for peddling Christ for money.
@TheIchor OK???? Your wrong here but like every other LHP practitioner it is easy to avoid this truth than agree to the obvious. Can you show me the difference in your mind????
@timishardcore You still fail to grasp the essence of the LHP.
While no doubt there are people who are little more than Reverse Christians, the authentic representatives of the LHP are not as you think. Research Julius Evola on the LHP. Or the Aghora trilogy.
@01blackpete1 My point was to THOSE TYPE of LHP practitioners Rove.I realize there is far more to ANY BELIEF system if people took the time to "SEE" and not just "LOOK" at something hazily. Many people believe in Christianity/Satanism/LHP ect for no other reason but to believe in something.These people read books to gain understanding without understanding what they read.
@TheIchor The problem with modern-day Christianity is that it is literalist and fideist. It thrives on blind belief and unquestioning acceptance of authority....Bible or Pope.
I'm not sure what Jesus would have intended. I tend to see Jesus as the leader of a peasant revolt against Roman occupation and Jewish collaboration with the same. A revolt which failed. The Jesus movement carried on for a while in the Diaspora. Meanwhile Paul was proclaiming Jesus as a divine man. A tale of two missions.
A peasant revolt against Roman occupation? Oh, so that's what Jesus' teaching was about, and the last supper, and allowing himself to be crucified. Thanks for letting me know. (sarcasm)
@TheIchor The Last Supper is pseudo-history dude. Jesus was never betrayed by Judas. Judas = Judean. The gospels don't even agree on the date of the crucifixion. The dates given are given for theological reasons. EG: The Lamb of God slain from the beginning of the aeon of Pisces.
Jesus never ALLOWED himself to be crucified. That's all part of the bullshit RC mysticism of suffering.
If it's all a story, then it is a story. However, that does not alter the fact that The Gospels contain hidden meaning... an esoteric wisdom that most people are not ready for.
There is power in conscious suffering. It might appear mystical to you, but it is a reality. How would human civilization have progressed without it?
@TheIchor Can you be more specific about the hidded meanings? I agree, but having said that, the NT also contains some bullshit.
Read the book "Jesus Christ, Sun of God" by David Fiedler.
I did not say that there was no point in conscious suffering. But thr Romish mysticism of suffering in crazy. It encourages people to accept injustice rather than stand up against it.
When you finally understand the glass, and are witness of its nature, so then will the pyramid invert into a funnel, human man. I have added you to my self, and on the hour you break free of me you will no longer write, and no longer speak, but through the bodies of all living as a self.
You are a biomass with makeshift eyes, communicating in a language as that of the void between stars... human.
@TheIchor The opening quote "...facing one's suffering and swallowing it hole" rather than seeking it out and letting one's imagination create more. Good stuff, really helpful. Also, this concept of identification is new to me, is it encouraging detachment?
Funny that John Allee would say you understand "it" when you completely ignore the cyclical nature of the transfer. Not to mention myriad other problems with the ideology and purported understanding. I'll take one: the degradation of "negativity" within a bipolar presentation. This is self-defeating at best.
I believe my presentation was tri-polar. The rest of your critique just seems like nonsense you cooked up because you are still upset about Sorrell and T.C. wanting to leave my organization and me letting them.
If you have a real criticism after trying to understand what I've taught, then say it in pure English, man. Being all word fancy doesn't mean you have a better perspective on things. My lecture is a brief picture of what's going on... not the whole story.
@TheIchor "me letting them"....ouch dude, that sounds kinda creepy. Did they not make a free decision? What power do you have to stop them?
The nutshell.....yes....I mean put it in as few words as possible. Why is your Cthulhu Cult superior to all other groups. It was placed above EVERY expression of Buddhism, Christianity and Luciferianism....why? What secret do you have?
The Perfection od Wisfom in 100 words should be as coherent as the POW in 100 000. You get me?
"me letting them" referred to my not putting up much of a protest upon their leaving. Nor do I hold a grudge. If they wanted to leave, looking for understanding elsewhere, then I'm happy they left.
Perhaps I could have bent over backwards and tried to change the entire CoC in order to keep T.C., Jason Sorrell, and peripheral non-members like Jason King. But I chose not to. I had a vision when forming this emerald religion. I will not allow the CoC to be compromised.
Sorry you couldn't understand my economy of words. And no, your presentation is bipolar (hint: look at the two giant arrows on either side). The horizontal interplay does not define a third pole, sorry. LHP is not a movement away from "godhood," unless you are redefining it out of all context. Limiting the model to "satanism" and "christianity" highlights an even deeper problem regarding applicability to the human condition. Other than "looking cool," it doesn't have much explanatory power.
The reconciliation between the two arrows creates a balance, in this case, createing a third side or third pole. Not just a middle ground between Primitive Instincts and Higher Forces, but a strategic sublimation of the two opposing sides. I am trying to create something greater than the sum of the apparent dichotomy so that 1 + 1 = 3. Am I a mathematician or magician? I shall let the viewer decide.
As for being explanatory, Octave One is just the beginning, JK!
@TheIchor In any real tripolar mathematics, +1, -1 and *1 will conjointly produce 0. Any two without the third must be defined within the system at hand (I prefer a color scheme in this regard). So no, 1+1 does not equal 3 (in any system). If you doubt me on the last, it falls to you to produce a mathematically workable model to that effect. I'll bet you the painting in the background of your video that you can't.
Very well. You have 1 + 1 (+ X) = 3. And of course X has a value of 1 as well. But what is X? X is the individual who makes it happen, who wills it. The person who can take red and blue to make purple. It's not strictly part of the trichotomy, but then you can't have any successful equation without the conscious observer or the person working the problem, can you? That's how I can add 1 + 1 to make 3.
Now you owe me an signed hardcover copy of Postmodern Satanism. ;)
A rather well presented video and diagram too and, as you do know I go down then up the Left hand path of the chart the "Octave One". I applaud you my friend keep up with the good work, Wisdom and Aims do have a binary existence.
Where does Aleister Crowley and Thelema come in place? Would you consider them RHP or LHP, and far up/down your pyramid are they? Same question with the Golden Dawn and Chaos Magick.
I would probably put Thelema, Crowley, and the Golden Dawn / OTO somewhere around the Temple of Set. But it most likely depends on the individual... that goes triple for Chaos Magic.
And those cultic bodies up at the top seem fairly arbitrary.
We need to take cognizance of individuals rather than cults. I mean what does it really mean to say that the Temple of Set is up there. You said in the next breath that you are not too au fait with them. ?????
I have positive and negative things to say about every individual and every group. Individuals alone can only do so much. That's why we have groups in the first place. Cultic bodies? What are you referring to?
Excellent video Venger! The parts within the ziggurat relating to the various facets of the Great Work help to illustrate the foundation or "back to zero" necessity of the Work and what the essential steps are to get to the aim of Awakening. Nice quote by Girard Haven as well.
Thank you, brother. Of course, each facet could be explored in great detail, but I only had limited time. Anyways, that's what the Cult of Cthulhu is for... illuminating The Great Work!
Fair enough
silentiumestaureum93 1 month ago
My point is that every group, order, club, left or right wants you to conform. You suggest that the left hand path is less or nonconformist but even the left hand path members I know have conformed to be like their higher members and leaders.
silentiumestaureum93 1 month ago
@silentiumestaureum93
Your point is well taken. It's a matter of why an individual conforms. Is he following others out of fear or modeling himself after those who have achieved something great?
TheIchor 1 month ago
@TheIchor All sides, want you to conform at the bottom and top levels! Masons have kids who are preppys and dress a certain way. Satanists have kids who dress like Marlyn Masnson. Mormons have kids who dress in short sleeved shirts with black neck ties.
silentiumestaureum93 1 month ago
@silentiumestaureum93
What is your point?
TheIchor 1 month ago
Interesting stuff brah and cool drawing skills
DAtNizzaYOuKnOw 1 month ago
SLIME ON YOUR HEAD.HAIL MUMM RA
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ZhengFei141 3 months ago
@ZhengFei141
Yes.
TheIchor 3 months ago
I like charts.
Nagneto 4 months ago
After all the work one does to get to this "higher consciousness", how do you know you are guaranteed to receive what you are so desperately looking for? How do you know that the gods (demons) will grant you access into "lodge on high"? Satan doesn't have to prove his exsistence, as long as you are willfully doing his bidding. Satan all ways uses the "wolf in sheep's clothing" sublte approach. As long as deny God, no matter how...he wins your soul.
rmaynard626 6 months ago
@rmaynard626
I am becoming God. That's the point. That's what matters. There are no guarantees - not with your religion or mine. Deal with that for a minute, brother.
TheIchor 6 months ago 2
@TheIchor There are guarantees. There are absolutes. God is immutable and absolute. By you not acknowledging His authority and those absolutes does not change the equation or the results, for Him. For you...that is a different matter.
rmaynard626 6 months ago
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cromaat33 7 months ago
Now I have definitely seen it all! This guy is serious, so this is not a joke or a jibber...uhhhhhhh...only good thing in this pyramid chart are the cheerful colors! Now I have definitely seen it all... If you watch a clip to the end, you will see that satanism of Anton LaVey is on the top of LHP scale... how the fuck did he figured out that it will be an eternal mystery to me...
Sevolod1488 8 months ago
@Sevolod1488 Actually, from my experience it appears to be true. Most of them work for IBM and Sun Microsystms. "SUN" stands for Sustainable United Nations. They have time warp technology. From what I understand, the Nazis formed the UN after WW2. Temple of Set/Illuminati/Michael Aquino... You know what, it was such a fucked experience I wonder if we're all inside of a man's head about to blow his brains out. Seriously. That's all I have to say about that.
cromaat33 7 months ago
Remember this video, guys? Yeah... pretty awesome.
TheIchor 10 months ago
Are you trying to be funny or is this serious stuff?
surix 1 year ago
@surix
This is serious stuff.
TheIchor 1 year ago
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAH XDDDD ... is all that I have to say =)
Ununs3pt1um 1 year ago
@Ununs3pt1um
Right back at you, hoss.
TheIchor 1 year ago
Why would you develop will so late.
We are granted with free will at birth is is one of the gift from the gods.
If i was without the free will i would be lost and do something stupid; really anyone could tell me what to do and i would do it because i have no will.
If anything developing will should be one of the very first thing you gain or even start off with. How else would i want to give myself to satan or the CoC even after all the BS ive been fed as a child.
Not questioning. Thinking out.
arcaneaddict 1 year ago
@arcaneaddict
Will is actually one of the last things that human beings can acquire. You believe that you decide what to do going against nature, society, culture, upbringing, friends, family, and your own body on a consistent basis without even trying? Then praise be to you, hoss! I think we've found our new messiah.
VS
TheIchor 1 year ago
is this stuff like 'chaos magic/pretend' where a occult system is temporarily adopted to acheve a desired goal, or do you guys really believe the dogma?.
bilboinc 1 year ago
@bilboinc
Yes, we really believe, although there's relatively little dogma in the Cult of Cthulhu. Everything that can be verified, should be by the individual Cultist. If you aren't getting positive results over a period of time and after sincere effort, then change what you're doing.
Eventually, some will find that the CoC is not for them. And I wish them luck in their future endeavors.
TheIchor 1 year ago
@TheIchor how do you verify the rule of 3 for instance, how do you prove that the 3 events are actually a result of event 1.
bilboinc 1 year ago
@bilboinc
The rule of three seems self-evident to me and many occultists, religionists, and scientists. Can you be more specific about 3 events being the result of 1? How about an example or two...?
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@TheIchor i would agree with a limited social form of "what goes around comes around", the 3 to 1 stuff is your dogma, you can try to explain it, if you use words like god, satan, or astral bodies to explain the system you have introduced more complexity that must also be explained.
bilboinc 1 year ago
I like that you credit your sources and explain how your philosophy comes together. Most HP's etc these days are content to rip off their stuff and dis the sources they use. I think you have something here and wish you the best on this journey. X
Sir9real 1 year ago
Yeah! 999th viewer!
Sir9real 1 year ago
A RC priest once tried to tell me that I had a vocation to suffer. That is because RCs tend to believe that Jesus chose to go to the cross in order to atone for the sins of the world. RCs believe that you can intentionally join your sufferings to his and help save the world, which is bullshit.
You can help save the world by direct action to change it (and Yes, that may mean that you have to accept a certain ammount of suffering). But to be a intentionally passive suffering doormat...No.
01blackpete1 1 year ago
You are an amazing person! I really appreciate your thoughtful and insightful Channel uploads! Thanks! ;)
advantage73 1 year ago
I tend to resonate far more with a Jesus, the champian of the dis-possessed/dis-enfranchized, the ideological heavy-weight behind the sicarii ...Jesus who made an onslaught on the Temple....the tax rebel, than I do with this anaemic Hollywood picture of Jesus who simply acts a part in a pre-ordained story and goes to the cross with a beatific smile on his face, as in RC Stations of the Cross. Beware of buying into the wrong mythologies.
01blackpete1 1 year ago
@FireWhisp This quote shows your stupidity. Why would anyone turn vegie because he hated animals??? To turn vegie because you hate the meat industry would be both a valid ethical response and rational.....but then, what would ye know of rationality?? Nothing!!!
Cock strangler :D Cat killer :(((((
01blackpete1 1 year ago
@FireWhisp When you learn to spell and speak properly I may furnish you with some wisdom, though you would no doubt fail to understand it as you always have.
Which quote do you object to now?
01blackpete1 1 year ago
i find it also mind blowing that this all in octave one.that means we all have to get on the ball.there is much to be realized.much mess to clean.love to see the next octave.i know im not ready for that.
ninjafretshadow 1 year ago
i found the pryramid very easy to understand.it spoke to my symbol mindset.i really dig how rhp/rhp are same level.how christians have to ascend to lhp to realive understanding of use for their system.alot of them yell wisdom at people from the bottom.it's always exoteric stock quotes.you have a talent for teaching.
ninjafretshadow 1 year ago
I have a bunch of questions but I will start with one already asked that I did not see your response to. Can you explain, specifically, why your "Cult of Cthulhu" is placed above Gnostic Christianity, LaVey Satanism, The Temple of Set, buddhism, and most Fourth Way schools? And before you say your group is more awake or closer to godhood please explain exactly how you are more awake and close to godhood.
socratesloknar 1 year ago
@socratesloknar
A. our use of the Fourth Way in an open Left Hand Path context. B. the CoC was founded and lead by a Man # 4 who is now a Man # 6. C. our Cthulhu Mythos paradigm covers many doctrines and mythologies without being corrupted by what has come before (previous societies and cultures worshiping this God or that). Lovecraft will always have a profound, eldritch resonance throughout the occult world.
What other philosophy or religion is trying to create a new kind of nightmare?
TheIchor 1 year ago
@TheIchor Not tryin to be a pain here, but that doesn't really answer my question. I don't know what the 4th Way is, and your use of it doesn't explain how your group is on top. I don't know what man 4-6 is, but if it is grades, who apointed the guy man 4, and who promoted him to man 6? Or is he just another guy claiming to be something with no real evidence? Being in the paradigm, how can you be certain you have not been corrupted by what has come before?
socratesloknar 1 year ago
@socratesloknar
I'm not surprised you are confused. How could I communicate to you what has taken me 36 years to understand? I have verified that the 4th Way can help man Awaken. I am that conscious individual who founded and lead the Cthulhu Cult to the level it's currently at.
You will not be convinced until you go through our paradigm for yourself. If you want a free PDF of our bible, just privately send me your email address.
TheIchor 1 year ago
@TheIchor ok, but before I put some time into really investigating what your claiming, how about this. You have gotten it to work for you, but have you been able to duplicate your success others? I get that you are where you say you are, but this also true for you group? Again, not trying to be a pain, but can you offer more than hyperbole and rhetoric?You are a "man 6" in your system. How many "man 5s" are there in your group?
socratesloknar 1 year ago
@socratesloknar
Currently none, but I'm happy to say that there are plenty of Men # 4 which is saying something. Many Cultists are on the right track and making vast improvements to their lives. Check out the CoC forum. You'll be able to verify the success of my system for yourself, brother.
Also try googling the Fourth Way. See if people respected the teaching of Gurdjieff and Ouspensky in the past as a valid way of conscious evolution.
TheIchor 1 year ago
@TheIchor Do you advocate or practise magic?
jtaellio11 1 year ago
@jtaellio11
Yes to both, most definitely. The CoC practices Viridian Sorcery all the time. This is willed change, and difficult to come by.
TheIchor 1 year ago
@TheIchor Thank you. For the layperson, what kind of spells would you do? What would you ask for, and would you get it?
jtaellio11 1 year ago
@jtaellio11
All magic is based on the following three things... 1. Intent 2. Gnosis or Consciousness (there are other names for this state as well) 3. Will
One could ask for anything. LaVey divided them up into Lust, Compassion, and Destruction rituals. If you receive what you want depends on a number of factors. But first, study the Fourth Way and observe yourself in daily life.
TheIchor 1 year ago
@TheIchor Don't 'destruction' rituals fall into the bracket of 'black magic'? Surely that violates a universal spiritual law of 'harm none'. I've heard that such actions will mean the harmful effects rebound back three times over.
jtaellio11 1 year ago
@jtaellio11 Have you heard of the ex Satanist Doreen Irvine, from the 1960's?
jtaellio11 1 year ago
@jtaellio11 Somebody said that she couldn't possibly have been part of a Satanist cult when she wrote about it just before 1964: it was certainly before La Vey. What would you surmise, with your knowledge of this type of thing?
jtaellio11 1 year ago
@jtaellio11
No, that's bullshit. Sometimes people need to be harmed, self-defense especially. Can't make an omelette without breaking eggs. It may be "black magic" to some, but it's all Viridian Sorcery to us.
The Law of Three has other things to concern itself with. Trust me.
TheIchor 1 year ago
@TheIchor Yes, as long as you're aware of Universal Law, or rebound effects, then so be it. That doesn't sound a good course of action, in the Spiritual sense. Read Galations chp 5.
jtaellio11 1 year ago
@TheIchor Don't you know your 'Dr Who'? A well made British show, where there was a morality of good fighting evil, and good always prevailing:eg In 'Pyramids of Mars' (1975) the ancient evil Egyptian God Sutekh is actually an alien, whom the Dr. eventually vanquishes, preventing the attempt to reduce the planet Earth to a radioactive cinder.
jtaellio11 1 year ago
@jtaellio11
Yes, I'm very familiar. But sometimes, as Doctor Who occasionally illustrated, it's not so simple as good versus evil. Sloppy thinking, Adric.
Have you ever seen the original Quatermass and The Pit?
TheIchor 1 year ago
@TheIchor I have heard of it: a similar concept was utilised in Who's 1977 'Image of the Fendahl', where they discover a 12 million year old human skull with a pentagram at the back. It houses latent psychic energy, which is unleashed as the death incarnate gestalt Fendahl. The upshot is: it was either a humanoid alien artefact, which affected the development of evolving Man, or it attacked Man sometime and permeated this skull. A 'double' take story.
jtaellio11 1 year ago
@TheIchor I think 'Adric' would have turned in his grave, listening about Crowley, the Cthulhu Cult et al!
jtaellio11 1 year ago
@TheIchor The Doctor, while not always successful, ALWAYS fought on the side of good. That was the crux of the show. In episodes like Genesis of the Daleks (1975) which had a Nazi subtext, the morality of even destroying the evolving evil Daleks was played out by the good Doctor. In Masque of Mandragora, a human religious sect, Demnos, is hijacked by the Mandragora Helix. It is the old fable of Man seeking power, only to discover that he is being used as a channel for an ancient Evil power!
jtaellio11 1 year ago
I did not expect to see Buddhism on there either, Ive always been interested in the philosophy of Buddhism and Laveyan Satanism both but i need to study more on Laveyan though.
straightpimpin888 1 year ago
Love that you labeled more parts of the pyramid and the videos are longer too.
AWAKE!
straightpimpin888 1 year ago
Well I admire your high expectations for the CoC.. But there is one (of many) problems with this "Pyramid". 1) In my ventures in life I have found that "Christianity" leads us(human race) towards understanding of ourselves thus FREEDOM. 2) The LHP and its so called "Do what thy will" concept has lead far to many into bondage. 3)Lavey should be nowhere near the top for he is just "reverse Christianity" and a BELLHOP as it were. A few points :)
timishardcore 1 year ago
@timishardcore Christianity leads us into bondage. It is the Gnosis which is important. Whether the gnosis travels along with the Christian, Buddhist, Hindu or Islamic caravan is no matter. What a man calls himself is of less important.
As they say, "I've seen the box, now let's unpack it".
01blackpete1 1 year ago
@01blackpete1 Yes Rove very true..but the same can be said for the "Druggie"-"Alcoholic" Drop outs that call themselves Satanists or LHP. Any belief can become bondage just as anything can lead us into slavery. I myself teach it is less important how you view the Bible IE: literal,hyperbole,metaphoric ect because it is what it teaches you that is of value.
timishardcore 1 year ago
@timishardcore By Christianity I mean the Constantinian Church. This is the "undivided" Church of the east and west, later to become the RC/Orthodox split. The Protestants are simply the poor relations of Rome. The modern ecumenical movement and the WCC is a move towards a reunified Church.The Pope loves this shit as it plays right into his agenda. A Papal Church with a thin veneer of reform. The WCC gather round a load of fusty old creeds which were established in the Constantinian era.
01blackpete1 1 year ago
@01blackpete1 Off the subject but I read a interesting chapter in a book that basically said Jesus was not from "Nazareth" but that he was a part of a group called "Nazarene" ?????? I have to look into it further
Iamasideeffect 1 year ago
@Iamasideeffect That is true. Nazareth never existed at the time of Jesus infancy. Google Didache. I take this book to be early, and a true reflection of what the Jesus movement was like in the Diaspora.
01blackpete1 1 year ago
@01blackpete1 Yes I do have a copy of that book Didache in my possession, just do not know where???
Iamasideeffect 1 year ago
@Iamasideeffect Google Aaron Milavec on Didache.
01blackpete1 1 year ago
@Iamasideeffect I too have read that somewhere??????
timishardcore 1 year ago
@01blackpete1 Yes I realize that what we have today is not what was given to mankind back then, that much is obvious..The "Church" tells us to just grin and bare it(Paul) while Peter told us to be partakers of the divine nature.
timishardcore 1 year ago
@timishardcore That is why I dislike the RC "mysticism of suffering". My "God" rends his garments over injustice and inspires his followers to deliver some serious boot into the groin of the establishment. Pacifism plays into the hands of the State.
01blackpete1 1 year ago
@01blackpete1 "Oh Lord rend the Heavens and come down, destroy your enemies as of old" Love that passage in Psalms.
timishardcore 1 year ago
@timishardcore
Being an addict or dependent on any substance/habit isn't "Do what thou will" by a long shot. Crowley strongly encouraged his students to contemplate what it was they truly wanted most of all, in the long haul, deep inside-- their Will with a capital W. Acting on immediate, impetuous impulses or being a slave to instinct or compulsion is in no way acting on one's Will.
XiaoGui17 1 year ago
@XiaoGui17 HOW SO??? Did they "DO" drugs by force?? NO,NO,NO.. They decided it was in their best interests as individuals to try drugs and that was done of their own free will(as stupid as it was). The problem is the the LHP idea of the "here and now" and its nearsightedness.
timishardcore 1 year ago
@timishardcore
The Left Hand path must see near and far, the forest and the trees. Some instant gratification is OK, but let's not go crazy. To put ourselves under the influence of Higher Forces is to activate our True Will.
TheIchor 1 year ago
@TheIchor I would agree here Venger. Nearsightedness is a problem on both sides. Too far one way or the other is "Fundamentalism" whether it is RHP or LHP as far as I am concerned.
timishardcore 1 year ago
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XiaoGui17 1 year ago
@XiaoGui17 Good question, Why did you remove the comment?? You are correct but I am not so sure I see the point to your response as far as what I said(call me stupid). The "Here and now" is a LHP thing based on the fact that many of them use it as a rallying cry for their life including ZACH(S.I.N) and Shawn Hartnell.
timishardcore 1 year ago
@timishardcore Scratch that first part, I do see your point now. But it was still YOUR WILL that was accomplished good or bad that is my point.
timishardcore 1 year ago
@timishardcore
I removed my comment because I realized you misunderstood my first post, and I wanted to make a vid because 500 characters may not cut it. You equivocated "will" with a lowercase w and "Will" with a capital W.
From Crowley's "De Lege Libellum": “…the True Will, which is not to rest content with things partial and transitory, but to proceed firmly to the End.”
"Do What Thou Wilt" is meant to be understood in that context. Far from "here and now," it's about the big picture.
XiaoGui17 1 year ago
@XiaoGui17 I can agree with that ideal but the problem is that fits only a small portion of people practicing that ideal on YT. Most have said they are concerned with the here and now. Most certainly that many have not read ALL of Crowley's work so when they read a statement like "Do what thou will" Capital "W" or not they have not the understanding that you do.If you make that video I will be glad to watch it.
timishardcore 1 year ago
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timishardcore 1 year ago
@timishardcore
I must disagree with you here, Tim.
Most Christianity today is mechanical and not what Jesus intended. As many have said, if Jesus were living today he would not be able join, let alone lead the Christian Church.
Do what thy wilt is the essence of freedom. But one cannot be a selfish, arrogant, asshole about it. That's where the balance comes in... some compassion, altruism, and conscience is needed.
LaVey is not reverse Christianity. Have you read The Satanic Bible?
TheIchor 1 year ago
@TheIchor I own a copy of the Satanic bible my friend and I can say without reservation it is pure "Reverse" Christianity. He even made the statement on page 52(Of mine). I would have to then ask you this Have you read the Bible????
timishardcore 1 year ago
@timishardcore I just wanted to address this, if i may. "satanism" was just the carrier for Lavey's occult studies. You repeatedly hear that satanism has nothing to do with satan. This is true, satan is an archetype. It could have just as easilly been lokiism or apepism. The religon itself is meaningless, it was only a vector, a tool for spreading something more important. Lavey had dedicated years to occult study before the debut of satanism. Occultists are naturally anti christian Exodus 22:18
TheBloodbrew 1 year ago
@TheBloodbrew Yes and No my friend.YES Anton Lavey was into Occult ideals long before he decided to start a Church but Anton chose the title "Satanism" for his ideals as a kind of SHOCK and attention getter. NO.... Only "Atheistic" Satanism has nothing to do about Satan. Good thought all the same.
timishardcore 1 year ago
@timishardcore
You just said it all for me, Tim. LaVey's occult ideas, philosophy, and traditional Devil worship all go into his definitive brand of Satanism. Much more than just "reverse Christianity".
TheIchor 1 year ago
@TheIchor Well actually Anton was not more according to his own thoughts "The Satanic RELIGION has not merely lifted the coin-it has flipped it completely over.Therefore why should it support the very principles to which it is completely opposed by calling itself anything other than a name which is totally in keeping with the REVERSED doctrines which make up the SATANIC PHILOSOPHY" PG 52 The Satanic Bible
timishardcore 1 year ago
@timishardcore LaVey was a clown, though he had some justification for existing given the retarded state of the modern Christian who is too heavenly minded to be of any earthly good, and obsessed as he is with sexual "sins". When I say that the Christer is heavenly minded I don't forget his propensity for peddling Christ for money.
01blackpete1 1 year ago
@timishardcore
Reversed doctrines is as different from reverse Christianity as night is from day.
TheIchor 1 year ago
@TheIchor OK???? Your wrong here but like every other LHP practitioner it is easy to avoid this truth than agree to the obvious. Can you show me the difference in your mind????
timishardcore 1 year ago
@timishardcore You still fail to grasp the essence of the LHP.
While no doubt there are people who are little more than Reverse Christians, the authentic representatives of the LHP are not as you think. Research Julius Evola on the LHP. Or the Aghora trilogy.
01blackpete1 1 year ago
@01blackpete1 My point was to THOSE TYPE of LHP practitioners Rove.I realize there is far more to ANY BELIEF system if people took the time to "SEE" and not just "LOOK" at something hazily. Many people believe in Christianity/Satanism/LHP ect for no other reason but to believe in something.These people read books to gain understanding without understanding what they read.
timishardcore 1 year ago
@timishardcore A question to you. Are you still a Christian? And if so, why??
01blackpete1 1 year ago
@01blackpete1 I will answer that question but first one for you.. Why do you ask??? O.K. 2 questions and is it not obvious?
timishardcore 1 year ago
@timishardcore If I answer that it will spoil the vid I've got lined up for you.
01blackpete1 1 year ago
@01blackpete1 Then I will wait for the video to answer.Sound fair??
timishardcore 1 year ago
@timishardcore Yes....it will actually be a challenge to Christians and Satanists alike.
01blackpete1 1 year ago
@timishardcore Anton LaVey was basically a hedonist and had no belief in the devil as an actually existent being.
01blackpete1 1 year ago
@01blackpete1
I disagree. It wasn't until later, after Michael Aquino left, that LaVey eschewed most of his ties to Theistic Satanism.
TheIchor 1 year ago
@TheIchor The problem with modern-day Christianity is that it is literalist and fideist. It thrives on blind belief and unquestioning acceptance of authority....Bible or Pope.
I'm not sure what Jesus would have intended. I tend to see Jesus as the leader of a peasant revolt against Roman occupation and Jewish collaboration with the same. A revolt which failed. The Jesus movement carried on for a while in the Diaspora. Meanwhile Paul was proclaiming Jesus as a divine man. A tale of two missions.
01blackpete1 1 year ago
@01blackpete1
A peasant revolt against Roman occupation? Oh, so that's what Jesus' teaching was about, and the last supper, and allowing himself to be crucified. Thanks for letting me know. (sarcasm)
TheIchor 1 year ago
@TheIchor The Last Supper is pseudo-history dude. Jesus was never betrayed by Judas. Judas = Judean. The gospels don't even agree on the date of the crucifixion. The dates given are given for theological reasons. EG: The Lamb of God slain from the beginning of the aeon of Pisces.
Jesus never ALLOWED himself to be crucified. That's all part of the bullshit RC mysticism of suffering.
01blackpete1 1 year ago
@01blackpete1
If it's all a story, then it is a story. However, that does not alter the fact that The Gospels contain hidden meaning... an esoteric wisdom that most people are not ready for.
There is power in conscious suffering. It might appear mystical to you, but it is a reality. How would human civilization have progressed without it?
TheIchor 1 year ago
@TheIchor Can you be more specific about the hidded meanings? I agree, but having said that, the NT also contains some bullshit.
Read the book "Jesus Christ, Sun of God" by David Fiedler.
I did not say that there was no point in conscious suffering. But thr Romish mysticism of suffering in crazy. It encourages people to accept injustice rather than stand up against it.
01blackpete1 1 year ago
When you finally understand the glass, and are witness of its nature, so then will the pyramid invert into a funnel, human man. I have added you to my self, and on the hour you break free of me you will no longer write, and no longer speak, but through the bodies of all living as a self.
You are a biomass with makeshift eyes, communicating in a language as that of the void between stars... human.
Quiethoof 1 year ago
Wow that quote could not have been more appropriate for a situation I was just in.
ArmchairOccultist 1 year ago
@ArmchairOccultist
Which quote in particular, brother?
TheIchor 1 year ago
@TheIchor The opening quote "...facing one's suffering and swallowing it hole" rather than seeking it out and letting one's imagination create more. Good stuff, really helpful. Also, this concept of identification is new to me, is it encouraging detachment?
ArmchairOccultist 1 year ago
Funny that John Allee would say you understand "it" when you completely ignore the cyclical nature of the transfer. Not to mention myriad other problems with the ideology and purported understanding. I'll take one: the degradation of "negativity" within a bipolar presentation. This is self-defeating at best.
jason666king 1 year ago
@jason666king
I believe my presentation was tri-polar. The rest of your critique just seems like nonsense you cooked up because you are still upset about Sorrell and T.C. wanting to leave my organization and me letting them.
If you have a real criticism after trying to understand what I've taught, then say it in pure English, man. Being all word fancy doesn't mean you have a better perspective on things. My lecture is a brief picture of what's going on... not the whole story.
TheIchor 1 year ago
@TheIchor "me letting them"....ouch dude, that sounds kinda creepy. Did they not make a free decision? What power do you have to stop them?
The nutshell.....yes....I mean put it in as few words as possible. Why is your Cthulhu Cult superior to all other groups. It was placed above EVERY expression of Buddhism, Christianity and Luciferianism....why? What secret do you have?
The Perfection od Wisfom in 100 words should be as coherent as the POW in 100 000. You get me?
01blackpete1 1 year ago
@01blackpete1
"me letting them" referred to my not putting up much of a protest upon their leaving. Nor do I hold a grudge. If they wanted to leave, looking for understanding elsewhere, then I'm happy they left.
Perhaps I could have bent over backwards and tried to change the entire CoC in order to keep T.C., Jason Sorrell, and peripheral non-members like Jason King. But I chose not to. I had a vision when forming this emerald religion. I will not allow the CoC to be compromised.
TheIchor 1 year ago
Sorry you couldn't understand my economy of words. And no, your presentation is bipolar (hint: look at the two giant arrows on either side). The horizontal interplay does not define a third pole, sorry. LHP is not a movement away from "godhood," unless you are redefining it out of all context. Limiting the model to "satanism" and "christianity" highlights an even deeper problem regarding applicability to the human condition. Other than "looking cool," it doesn't have much explanatory power.
jason666king 1 year ago
@jason666king
The reconciliation between the two arrows creates a balance, in this case, createing a third side or third pole. Not just a middle ground between Primitive Instincts and Higher Forces, but a strategic sublimation of the two opposing sides. I am trying to create something greater than the sum of the apparent dichotomy so that 1 + 1 = 3. Am I a mathematician or magician? I shall let the viewer decide.
As for being explanatory, Octave One is just the beginning, JK!
TheIchor 1 year ago
@TheIchor In any real tripolar mathematics, +1, -1 and *1 will conjointly produce 0. Any two without the third must be defined within the system at hand (I prefer a color scheme in this regard). So no, 1+1 does not equal 3 (in any system). If you doubt me on the last, it falls to you to produce a mathematically workable model to that effect. I'll bet you the painting in the background of your video that you can't.
jason666king 1 year ago
@jason666king
Very well. You have 1 + 1 (+ X) = 3. And of course X has a value of 1 as well. But what is X? X is the individual who makes it happen, who wills it. The person who can take red and blue to make purple. It's not strictly part of the trichotomy, but then you can't have any successful equation without the conscious observer or the person working the problem, can you? That's how I can add 1 + 1 to make 3.
Now you owe me an signed hardcover copy of Postmodern Satanism. ;)
TheIchor 1 year ago
A rather well presented video and diagram too and, as you do know I go down then up the Left hand path of the chart the "Octave One". I applaud you my friend keep up with the good work, Wisdom and Aims do have a binary existence.
RoyalSatanas 1 year ago
Interesting video.
CelticWarrior1971 1 year ago
Awesome,Master Satanis,I have taken some time to study the pyramid and draw it myself to get more depth
TheKrunki 1 year ago
Where are you on this pyramid?
budferryman 1 year ago
@budferryman
The Cult of Cthulhu is at the green trapezoid level between the majority of the pyramid and the Gods.
TheIchor 1 year ago
@TheIchor Seriously dude...put it in a nutshell....Why?
01blackpete1 1 year ago
Where does Aleister Crowley and Thelema come in place? Would you consider them RHP or LHP, and far up/down your pyramid are they? Same question with the Golden Dawn and Chaos Magick.
metalstormer 1 year ago
@metalstormer
I would probably put Thelema, Crowley, and the Golden Dawn / OTO somewhere around the Temple of Set. But it most likely depends on the individual... that goes triple for Chaos Magic.
TheIchor 1 year ago
Very complicated dude. Dzogchen is better.
And those cultic bodies up at the top seem fairly arbitrary.
We need to take cognizance of individuals rather than cults. I mean what does it really mean to say that the Temple of Set is up there. You said in the next breath that you are not too au fait with them. ?????
01blackpete1 1 year ago
@01blackpete1
I have positive and negative things to say about every individual and every group. Individuals alone can only do so much. That's why we have groups in the first place. Cultic bodies? What are you referring to?
TheIchor 1 year ago
@TheIchor I can't see LaVey is up there with Esoteric Christianity. And what form of Buddhism do you refer to?
Why is Cthulhu Cult up at the top?
01blackpete1 1 year ago
Excellent video Venger! The parts within the ziggurat relating to the various facets of the Great Work help to illustrate the foundation or "back to zero" necessity of the Work and what the essential steps are to get to the aim of Awakening. Nice quote by Girard Haven as well.
DarkPrismOfficial 1 year ago
@DarkPrismOfficial
Thank you, brother. Of course, each facet could be explored in great detail, but I only had limited time. Anyways, that's what the Cult of Cthulhu is for... illuminating The Great Work!
TheIchor 1 year ago
I'm going to come back to this at a later time VS, take care brother. I'm just too drowsy to watch this right now I jus........ zzzzzzzz
mrzeroten 1 year ago
5 stars.
ph33ric 1 year ago
@ph33ric
Thanks, hoss. Much appreciated!
TheIchor 1 year ago