@jsphotos what are you talking about? taichi is an internal art, but ALL battles are external, using taiji, the power from the techniques come from the inside, not just the muscles
@oosuchin Take a look at his stance in the first part of the video (where his foot is crimped, inwards). No way that he can generate optimal power from that stance. The "fighting demo" clearly reveals good choreographed technique, but the movements are not driven by internal dynamics; that's clear. Muscles and intention drive everything. Easy to talk about, hard to do. Probably 90% of youtube Taichi videos are not really Taiji. They "look" like Taiji, but there is no "quality" in the movement.
@jsphotos ah. if you're referring to 0:35, that is a good example, but that's not for striking, his foot is positioned inward that's true but, in real time it would only be a brief moment before his "next step" that would put his body weight in motion "which in taiji, and other powerful soft styles" is where the power comes from, he turned his leg in, turned his body, then stepped out with a "strike" using his whole body, it would generate enough "power" to knock down, or sway a foe, try it out
Guys I want to practice an intens martial art, I can't choose between Tai chi (too much spiritual etc, don't like that much), Jiu jitsu (love the tricks and you can use weapons if you choose to), Karate (pretty badass strategies) and taekwando (don't know much about that, but it seems to be intensive and a lot of kicking)
@moetjewa451 Taiji aint for everyone! If you just want to learn some neat tricks, look good, impress the girls, get your cardio up, and maybe learn some self defense/fighting, you should go with another art. Taiji's power and speed comes from patience, perseverance, slowness, stillness and mind focus. Maybe after a few years in an external art, you'll be better able to appreciate Taiji. And of course in Taiji theres a lot of bad teachers, so it's extremely hard for the novice to find a good one!
The Taiji Quan come frome the original Kung Fu , so when you make the movement fast you use only a Kung Fu , there are different Kung Fu & the same with the Taiji Quan
The Taiji was teached to peoples by the monk & some masters for their protection
Chen Taiji originated as a fighting form. It is an internal style. Few practitioners these days know the meaning of the forms. Master Pang from Shanghai is one of the ones that does. However, remember that showing the usage of the forms would only be giving away secrets. Sometimes it is best to let the public think such a form is harmless. The element of surprise is very important. that is why it is fine to let arrogant comments pass.
He seems like a competent fighter. But his style seems rooted in an external form. He seems to have some internal energy, but hes weak in the basics. This is an example of how someone can get away with claiming they know taiji. Few people outside of china would really know.
@ahnakahnaponner While you may very well be right about this video, I must correct you a little bit: In mainland China real gongfu was almost eradicated during the cultural revolution. While there are real masters, most of what is being taught is a modern, watered down version. For instruction in the real Taiji, it would be a better bet to go to Taiwan, your nearest Chinatown, or to someone who already did that for you. -There are many non-Chinese with high level all around the western world!
@piaten "Eradicate" ???? hardly. Most masters went underground in 66-69 period. The current practice of tai ji by most of Chinese public is for exercise only, but does not mean there are no masters teaching a high level traditional martial aspect of tai ji..
As for the "many non-chinese with high levels": my personal experience (regional) is that I keep meeting Americans who pass themselves off as an expert, but know half (or less) than what they profess. Their youtube postings are comical.
@ahnakahnaponner Well, and I kept running into one famous Chinese master after another, but as it turned out, all they knew was empty forms, no real skill at all! And yes, you're right, there are still SOME very skilled people teaching in China, but this is not unique to China. I know of several skilled ppl in the US, both Chinese born, black and white. Personally I've learned everything I know that is of value, from very skilled non-Chinese ppl here in Europe, and in the US.
@Dragonwing5 I'm not sure whether or not you're joking here, but on the odd chance you're not, here's a few tell tale signs:
-Their forms look fancy with high kicks and low stances, but by closer examination, their body mechanics are clearly beginner level.
-At touch they have no real power, or only "external" power, and little or no root.
-When doing apps/sparin, they show useless "he grabs my arm, I lock his elbow"-type stuff, or revert to kickboxing, which has nothing to do with taiji skill!
For fuck's sake look at his ackward hand positioning at :11. It's obvious these dipshits don't have what it take to learn REAL kung fu, his write position leaves him vulnerable to get his hand broken. These jokers have no idea what they're doing LOL
@seabass900 i dont know what style of mantis you trained in but Ive never used the base of my forearm to strike. in pailum kung fu you use it its called pailum fist but mantis the reason why you bend your hand like that is because you use your fingers i some of the strikes
*sigh* typical white idiots. Taichi is for cultivating Chi or lifeforce. Kungfu is for martial arts. They're not the same thing you fucking idiot shits
Tai Chi Quan has actual combative applications. You just have to go looking for it in the forms. I am not a Tai Chi person, but when I have trained in it while working in China, not to many people knew how to use it for combat. Some still do, but most use it like Qi Gong, for Chi or health reasons. It's sad really, because there is a lot of good techniques in Tai chi. This clip is not the greatest example though. It is a Nei Ji art, used by soldiers in the past Chinese wars.
I probably now need to take my words back. After having posted my previous message I DID see some very convincing demos at more-or-less full speed. This one, however is by far not the most convincing. That's not to say anything of the instructor: it's just a not very successful demo and a more expressive one should probably be filmed.
I have yet to see a persuading tai chi fight. I am sure there are masters capable of displaying the level of combat worth 10+ years of practice to get anywhere beyond "dancing". No offense, but it just seems like there are way too many effective combat systems that deliver good results in much shorter time frame than Tai Chi. Seriously, I would LOVE to get convinced (by a documentary video) that Tai Chi art is worth so much effort. Don't get philosophical: I am speaking of practical combat
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So, basically, this video is of how it would all work in his fantasy? If he really believed in it, he'd someone to pad up, and really go at him. I mean, why fake a demonstration - IF you're confident in what you do? Anything can be made to look effective with compliant partners. Just watch a kung fu film to realise that.
That's a good question, and deserves a good answer. Which is, of course, that he is expecting us to risk our lives, to risk ourselves getting hurt, believing in, and learning what he teaches. If he teachers stuff that doesn't work, he's as good as an aid to the attackers. In fact, if he had real skill, he could easily demonstrate his stuff against much more realistic attacks.
Why would I need to fight him? Can't he manage to do an honest demo himself?
It's not that the techniques would or wouldn't work, it's that the way they are demonstrated does not help us decide if they would or would not. Like I say, if you want to risk your life learning like that, then go ahead. We don't assess it by fighting everyone, but by applying our common sense to what we are seeing. You want to believe it - go for it. I hope it doesn't cost you your life.
I simply don´t understand why you are so arrogant towards his Taijiquan.
A demonstration is there to demonstrate-not to fight for your life.i´m sure if I would go to his school, he wouldn´t just let me stand there and demonstrate, but explain and practice with me.
Moreover most people will never in their life get in a situation where they will need to fight for their lives, and if they do, it´s still not sure if ANY martial art helps them AT ALL.
All asians secretly know how to do all styles of asian fighting, they just don't use it. But when push comes to shove, they destroy everyone around them =)
I like the video, I'm not too keen on the bright shiny suits a lot of people favour though. I prefer the simple white cotton with black trousers...but thats me.
i think your wrists would break if you punch or strike with your hands at that angle, unless there's something I'm ignorant about. My grandpa learned tai chi when he was young because he was a part of a traveling chinese circus. Most of the strikes he showed me were open palm with contact made with the base of the palm.
When you strike with your wrist like that you use the end of your forearm bone to hit. Most of the time your reinforce it with a hand inside your wrist as you push it relatively hard striking your opponent. Depending on how hard you do this and the force your opponent is coming at you it can do some pretty heavy damage. But in the video the guy looked like he was like slapping the guy with an awkward back hand, I don't think that would hurt the other guy too badly, and probably can cause injury.
I don't think he was trying to hit his friend :-P
I've been working on my tai-chi punches on a padded pole and it's not particularily easy to do it right and still maintain relaxation before the punch.
@fireguysith Yes there a risk, striking that way, but only if you do it wrong. First of all, you dont strike with the back of your hand. you strike with the lower base of your forearm/wrist. The lower base of the forearm/wrist is more then strong enough, to carry your body weight.
Unfortunately, many American martial arts schools teach a version of Tai Chi Chuan that is... less than correct. Additionally, you will rarely find styles like Wudang Kungfu (and I don't mean the kind developed by Cheng Tinhung) or the Wu style developed by Wu Chuan Yu.
I would recommend trying to find a few good videos on the subject. Audit a few Tai Chi Chuan classes. Yang style Tai Chi Chuan is the biggest victim of Americanized bastardization, so be especially wary of those schools...
I can't personally recommend any videos, as I have none of my own, but a great book on the subject is Wong Kiew Kit's "The Complete Book of Tai Chi Chuan". It teaches about the theory of Tai Chi Chuan as well as its history. It also, however, stresses how important it is to find a competent master.
As I said before, shop around the Tai Chi Chuan courses in your area. Make sure that the instructor is explaining to students about combat applications and the internal portion of Tai Chi Chuan.
Yes, very important to find a competent master... only, Wong Kiew Kit learned taiji from a cheap Hong kong book - he says so himself. His students say he is so high level it doesn't matter - he under!stood the 'essence'. So, yeah, you need to find a teacher, but to be a fraud like Wong, you just need a cheap book and gullible followers. D'oh
haha I've never been patient enough to really take in tai chi. I wish I had this sifu, I probably would've stuck around longer. As for internal power, if you don't believe, you haven't been hit by the right person.
muzzman is totally right. You cannot jugde properly if you don't know about it. Tai Chi is all about balance. The dude is practicing that, off course it looks a little odd and "not cool".
Being a deadly fighter is not about being "cool" it's about balance and control. Even I who knows absolutly nothing about tai chi can see that.
The people here who call others "shit-tards" and stuff obviously are to dumb to give a polite reaction and therefore they make a disgrace of themselves.
vile says mma pwns ur face, all these fukin ufc dick suckers. UFC is cool they are the top fighters they are in top shape. But are u in top shape with top mma training vile bet u arent so anyone who only trains tai chi n doesnt workout will kick ur ass shit in ur face n say mma blows my cock
Anyone who has anything negative to say about tai chi. Or any internal martial art for that matter. Should have fought or at least sparred a practitioner of tai chi before saying anything about how weak or strong the style is. also, i ask that you find someone who has been studying for at least five or more years. Don't be a puss and fight a white belt.
wow you guys have no idea what your talking about when you say that tai chi is for meditation only and that any real fighter would crush someone using tai chi, have you ever seen someone using tai chi in a fight, and not this bafoon either, tai chi when used correctly in a fight, is dominating, look further into it if you don't believe me, like really search around, you'll see what i'm talking about.
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"Martial arts" is serious business only for the scamurai masters who profit from this complete bullshit by selling it to credulous, orientophile believers just like you who are so excited to hand over all their money for claims of secret "internal chi power" bullshit. Grow up.
@DreamofPhyrexia Even the best fighter that ever lived on the Earth (For me it's Bruce Lee) has used to train Taijiquan. If you know a little about his history you'll now that when he got injured and he was in bed for 6 months he used to read a dozens of Taijiquan books he started to train it and instead of listening to his doctors which said that he wont be able to kick again, Bruce Lee became much better than he was .
@DreamofPhyrexia im sorry dude but tai chi is indeed a martial art and a damn fast one its a common mistake to think that what you see is slow moving but that is only to PRACTICE the actual strikes and evasion movements wich are actually preatty useful this video in particular is mabey a equivalent of a flip in tai qwon do or a counter strike the whole martial art is not made up from stuff like or the stuff you see on tv
Umm....did you even read my whole comment? Cause my entire comment is about how ppl don't realize how sick tai chi really is as a fighting style. And that this video is a poor example of how effective tai chi can be. So i don't know what that whole rant was about, cause your really not saying anything different from what i said in the first place
Tai Chi emulates the flowing movements of water. I also looked up to see it too, but this doesn't really provide much concept of water bending.. Try looking up Sifu Kisu
I know that, idiot.. I was trying to provide some information to lilrdog because he didn't understand how Tai Chi Chuan was used in Avatar as waterbending from this video.. =.=" yourself..
Actually, when Master Paku is training Aang, he even tells him to feel the push and pull of the water. This is something that you would try to achieve if you practiced Tai Chi. It's like Galeon said.
And we know it's not Avatar, but Water bending is designed after Tai Chi because it "emulates the flowing movements of water" as Galeon put it. It's interesting to see where they got the form of water bending from. But I'm not here for water bending myself...
it's interesting, but besides the slow taichi movements everything seems that it would be learned from doing kungfu (wushu), so not sure how this is specifically from taichi. I also thought taichi was about inner peace and not conflict.
I'm no kungfu expert, but I read that Shaolin kungfu starts external and advances to internal, whereas Taijiquan starts internal and advances to external? Both should result in the same end - external ability with internal power?
Not bad. Good body movement and fluidity in both form and application. Could generate more movement and power from the hips though as opposed to just the wait.
Everything here looks hard, not soft
He doesn't lead or redirect, he blocks
I did taiji for 3 years and that's the opposite of what it's supposed to be
Cunnysmythe 3 weeks ago
@1:10 face shoulder plant....... nice move picking up the punch and bringing the leg behind.... sweet
PushyMonk 4 months ago
Looks kinda like Taiji, but it's not. the fast part at the end is all external - it's not Taiji.
jsphotos 4 months ago
@jsphotos what are you talking about? taichi is an internal art, but ALL battles are external, using taiji, the power from the techniques come from the inside, not just the muscles
oosuchin 2 months ago
@oosuchin Take a look at his stance in the first part of the video (where his foot is crimped, inwards). No way that he can generate optimal power from that stance. The "fighting demo" clearly reveals good choreographed technique, but the movements are not driven by internal dynamics; that's clear. Muscles and intention drive everything. Easy to talk about, hard to do. Probably 90% of youtube Taichi videos are not really Taiji. They "look" like Taiji, but there is no "quality" in the movement.
jsphotos 2 months ago
@jsphotos ah. if you're referring to 0:35, that is a good example, but that's not for striking, his foot is positioned inward that's true but, in real time it would only be a brief moment before his "next step" that would put his body weight in motion "which in taiji, and other powerful soft styles" is where the power comes from, he turned his leg in, turned his body, then stepped out with a "strike" using his whole body, it would generate enough "power" to knock down, or sway a foe, try it out
oosuchin 2 months ago
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DreamofPhyrexia 5 months ago
oh and tai chi is cool with the weapons too ;D
moetjewa451 6 months ago
Guys I want to practice an intens martial art, I can't choose between Tai chi (too much spiritual etc, don't like that much), Jiu jitsu (love the tricks and you can use weapons if you choose to), Karate (pretty badass strategies) and taekwando (don't know much about that, but it seems to be intensive and a lot of kicking)
moetjewa451 6 months ago
@moetjewa451 Taiji aint for everyone! If you just want to learn some neat tricks, look good, impress the girls, get your cardio up, and maybe learn some self defense/fighting, you should go with another art. Taiji's power and speed comes from patience, perseverance, slowness, stillness and mind focus. Maybe after a few years in an external art, you'll be better able to appreciate Taiji. And of course in Taiji theres a lot of bad teachers, so it's extremely hard for the novice to find a good one!
piaten 6 months ago 3
The Taiji Quan come frome the original Kung Fu , so when you make the movement fast you use only a Kung Fu , there are different Kung Fu & the same with the Taiji Quan
The Taiji was teached to peoples by the monk & some masters for their protection
& it's a Gymnastic too good for the health
KCNARF29 6 months ago
leave this stuff to the azn community stupid white people
jonathan186832 7 months ago
fuck he was so fast one moment I got double vision
phishfoood 7 months ago
Chen Taiji originated as a fighting form. It is an internal style. Few practitioners these days know the meaning of the forms. Master Pang from Shanghai is one of the ones that does. However, remember that showing the usage of the forms would only be giving away secrets. Sometimes it is best to let the public think such a form is harmless. The element of surprise is very important. that is why it is fine to let arrogant comments pass.
meadrose 9 months ago
remember : tai chi is more an art as a fight!!!
STARWOLF13MMO 9 months ago
mr.Yelow!your tai chi is like my inglish!:)
sidifermo 9 months ago
Yeah..Yellow isn't a Good Color for you!
jnay93 11 months ago
fucking gay:)))
BUFALAU 1 year ago
worst thing in the world.
self defense = militar systems.
minimalista242 1 year ago
For those unfamiliar with Taiji, it may look nice. But the execution is wrong and this
"show" is not appreciated by Taiji practioners who, fjor years, leared the art in the country of origin.
47wma 1 year ago
@47wma do you practice tai chi? is it really good for both relax and self defense?
akane0020 10 months ago
For those unfamiliar with Taijiquan it may look good but in reality, this is wrongly executed
and not appreciated by Taiji practioners who lived and learned this art in China.
47wma 1 year ago
He seems like a competent fighter. But his style seems rooted in an external form. He seems to have some internal energy, but hes weak in the basics. This is an example of how someone can get away with claiming they know taiji. Few people outside of china would really know.
ahnakahnaponner 1 year ago
@ahnakahnaponner While you may very well be right about this video, I must correct you a little bit: In mainland China real gongfu was almost eradicated during the cultural revolution. While there are real masters, most of what is being taught is a modern, watered down version. For instruction in the real Taiji, it would be a better bet to go to Taiwan, your nearest Chinatown, or to someone who already did that for you. -There are many non-Chinese with high level all around the western world!
piaten 9 months ago 2
@piaten "Eradicate" ???? hardly. Most masters went underground in 66-69 period. The current practice of tai ji by most of Chinese public is for exercise only, but does not mean there are no masters teaching a high level traditional martial aspect of tai ji..
As for the "many non-chinese with high levels": my personal experience (regional) is that I keep meeting Americans who pass themselves off as an expert, but know half (or less) than what they profess. Their youtube postings are comical.
ahnakahnaponner 9 months ago
@ahnakahnaponner Well, and I kept running into one famous Chinese master after another, but as it turned out, all they knew was empty forms, no real skill at all! And yes, you're right, there are still SOME very skilled people teaching in China, but this is not unique to China. I know of several skilled ppl in the US, both Chinese born, black and white. Personally I've learned everything I know that is of value, from very skilled non-Chinese ppl here in Europe, and in the US.
piaten 9 months ago 2
@piaten How did you know that those were empty forms?
Dragonwing5 7 months ago
@Dragonwing5 I'm not sure whether or not you're joking here, but on the odd chance you're not, here's a few tell tale signs:
-Their forms look fancy with high kicks and low stances, but by closer examination, their body mechanics are clearly beginner level.
-At touch they have no real power, or only "external" power, and little or no root.
-When doing apps/sparin, they show useless "he grabs my arm, I lock his elbow"-type stuff, or revert to kickboxing, which has nothing to do with taiji skill!
piaten 7 months ago
@Dragonwing5 Oh, i was just curious i didn't mean to bother you.
Dragonwing5 7 months ago
@Dragonwing5 No problem man! So what's your IMA background and take on the subject matter?
piaten 6 months ago
@piaten None..i asked you so i could get some knoledge..
Dragonwing5 6 months ago
@Dragonwing5 Good for you! Good luck in your search!
piaten 6 months ago
這個黃衣師傅的功底不錯，看得出是個下過苦功的練家子。
不過他的博擊概念真的讓人不敢領教了。
就他現在這個樣，在街頭和人動手多半要吃虧的。
老實不客氣的說，他還沒領悟內家拳的道理。
Toryonline 1 year ago
@Toryonline Yeah.. you're right
TheStonCollector 1 year ago
@themrblackmonk ...in bed. lol
palolovaly 1 year ago
I studied Tai Chi for like a year but I mainly studied TKD for off and on 7 years. I tried Kali Sliat and a tad jiu jitsu.
RIPmyers 1 year ago
tai chi is a martial art, you just got to have the right instructor to show you how to use it as such, this one's not to convincing
divadocir 1 year ago
when can I learn the hoduken? the hodukzuken?? black belt? red belt??? please i wana be like Ryu
hsu373 2 years ago
@hsu373 SHORYOUKEN!!!
aeew 2 years ago
humm
dudeYXY 2 years ago
For fuck's sake look at his ackward hand positioning at :11. It's obvious these dipshits don't have what it take to learn REAL kung fu, his write position leaves him vulnerable to get his hand broken. These jokers have no idea what they're doing LOL
TedLeoAgent 2 years ago
this hook strike is executed with the wrist bones. the position causes the small bone of the wrist to compact making it useful as a striking weapon
Rasepreme 2 years ago
@TedLeoAgent That hand position is used in many styles of kungfu including Mantis. Top of hand is bent downward to allow base of forearm to strike.
seabass900 2 years ago
not the styles made for fighting. The ones that cater to WESTERn audiences and is more like a ballet, sure.
TedLeoAgent 2 years ago
@seabass900 i dont know what style of mantis you trained in but Ive never used the base of my forearm to strike. in pailum kung fu you use it its called pailum fist but mantis the reason why you bend your hand like that is because you use your fingers i some of the strikes
mastermusicianxv 1 year ago
*sigh* typical white idiots. Taichi is for cultivating Chi or lifeforce. Kungfu is for martial arts. They're not the same thing you fucking idiot shits
TedLeoAgent 2 years ago
totally agree!
ogrenocks 2 years ago
Tai Chi Quan has actual combative applications. You just have to go looking for it in the forms. I am not a Tai Chi person, but when I have trained in it while working in China, not to many people knew how to use it for combat. Some still do, but most use it like Qi Gong, for Chi or health reasons. It's sad really, because there is a lot of good techniques in Tai chi. This clip is not the greatest example though. It is a Nei Ji art, used by soldiers in the past Chinese wars.
jmikejapan 1 year ago
I probably now need to take my words back. After having posted my previous message I DID see some very convincing demos at more-or-less full speed. This one, however is by far not the most convincing. That's not to say anything of the instructor: it's just a not very successful demo and a more expressive one should probably be filmed.
parahumanoid 2 years ago
I have yet to see a persuading tai chi fight. I am sure there are masters capable of displaying the level of combat worth 10+ years of practice to get anywhere beyond "dancing". No offense, but it just seems like there are way too many effective combat systems that deliver good results in much shorter time frame than Tai Chi. Seriously, I would LOVE to get convinced (by a documentary video) that Tai Chi art is worth so much effort. Don't get philosophical: I am speaking of practical combat
parahumanoid 2 years ago
TAI CHI FOR LYFE!
Rohan4basu 2 years ago 3
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So, basically, this video is of how it would all work in his fantasy? If he really believed in it, he'd someone to pad up, and really go at him. I mean, why fake a demonstration - IF you're confident in what you do? Anything can be made to look effective with compliant partners. Just watch a kung fu film to realise that.
FamilyQuan 2 years ago
And why should he take the risk of getting hurt while producing a dvd, although he just wants to demonstrate?
nanhuazhenren 2 years ago
That's a good question, and deserves a good answer. Which is, of course, that he is expecting us to risk our lives, to risk ourselves getting hurt, believing in, and learning what he teaches. If he teachers stuff that doesn't work, he's as good as an aid to the attackers. In fact, if he had real skill, he could easily demonstrate his stuff against much more realistic attacks.
FamilyQuan 2 years ago
I think it´s pretty realistic stuff.Of course you´ll never be able to adapt it to a fight exactly like it´s shown here.
But if you get the basic idea behind these applications you will be able to react properly to real attacks.
nanhuazhenren 2 years ago
Then risk your life - or, risk his, by encouraging him to use this stuff. No sweat off my nose.
FamilyQuan 2 years ago
Have you ever fought him?
How do you know it doesn´t work?
Since when it´s a matter of style, if you´re a good fighter?
I think you judge on strange criteria.
nanhuazhenren 2 years ago
Why would I need to fight him? Can't he manage to do an honest demo himself?
It's not that the techniques would or wouldn't work, it's that the way they are demonstrated does not help us decide if they would or would not. Like I say, if you want to risk your life learning like that, then go ahead. We don't assess it by fighting everyone, but by applying our common sense to what we are seeing. You want to believe it - go for it. I hope it doesn't cost you your life.
FamilyQuan 2 years ago
I simply don´t understand why you are so arrogant towards his Taijiquan.
A demonstration is there to demonstrate-not to fight for your life.i´m sure if I would go to his school, he wouldn´t just let me stand there and demonstrate, but explain and practice with me.
Moreover most people will never in their life get in a situation where they will need to fight for their lives, and if they do, it´s still not sure if ANY martial art helps them AT ALL.
nanhuazhenren 2 years ago
hahahahahaha what a mog
finwinstheylose 2 years ago
how come you always see a white guy do this shit and never an asian?
hmm i wonder
KBDB91 2 years ago
Protocol of secrecy.
thedoubtfuls 2 years ago
All asians secretly know how to do all styles of asian fighting, they just don't use it. But when push comes to shove, they destroy everyone around them =)
gaaraisbest 2 years ago
Hey ! That's odd... This video seems to have been made in the dojo I train (Vovinam Viet Vo Dao though)!
Brisingr2207 2 years ago
I like the video, I'm not too keen on the bright shiny suits a lot of people favour though. I prefer the simple white cotton with black trousers...but thats me.
watts18269 3 years ago
well the color of the outfit is like belt colors for karate...
mostbrutalprincess 2 years ago
i think your wrists would break if you punch or strike with your hands at that angle, unless there's something I'm ignorant about. My grandpa learned tai chi when he was young because he was a part of a traveling chinese circus. Most of the strikes he showed me were open palm with contact made with the base of the palm.
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fireguysith 3 years ago 7
When you strike with your wrist like that you use the end of your forearm bone to hit. Most of the time your reinforce it with a hand inside your wrist as you push it relatively hard striking your opponent. Depending on how hard you do this and the force your opponent is coming at you it can do some pretty heavy damage. But in the video the guy looked like he was like slapping the guy with an awkward back hand, I don't think that would hurt the other guy too badly, and probably can cause injury.
Justin4RonPaul 3 years ago
I don't think he was trying to hit his friend :-P
I've been working on my tai-chi punches on a padded pole and it's not particularily easy to do it right and still maintain relaxation before the punch.
oalsaker 2 years ago
Quite true and the special effects trivializes this demonstration also....
jirildo 2 years ago
@fireguysith Yes there a risk, striking that way, but only if you do it wrong. First of all, you dont strike with the back of your hand. you strike with the lower base of your forearm/wrist. The lower base of the forearm/wrist is more then strong enough, to carry your body weight.
Search youtube: Drunken Master Training. (time:1:11to1:20)
But true, i havnt seen this kind of strike in Tai Chi before...
skytte71 1 year ago
@fireguysith it isnt a stike persay but a push all tai chi is made of pushing and pulling
XLRO8 5 months ago
This martial art is very intersting. I love it. Some one please tell me where and with whom I can practice Taichi?
MohammedSaladin156 3 years ago
Unfortunately, many American martial arts schools teach a version of Tai Chi Chuan that is... less than correct. Additionally, you will rarely find styles like Wudang Kungfu (and I don't mean the kind developed by Cheng Tinhung) or the Wu style developed by Wu Chuan Yu.
I would recommend trying to find a few good videos on the subject. Audit a few Tai Chi Chuan classes. Yang style Tai Chi Chuan is the biggest victim of Americanized bastardization, so be especially wary of those schools...
LordRahl86 3 years ago 2
I can't personally recommend any videos, as I have none of my own, but a great book on the subject is Wong Kiew Kit's "The Complete Book of Tai Chi Chuan". It teaches about the theory of Tai Chi Chuan as well as its history. It also, however, stresses how important it is to find a competent master.
As I said before, shop around the Tai Chi Chuan courses in your area. Make sure that the instructor is explaining to students about combat applications and the internal portion of Tai Chi Chuan.
LordRahl86 3 years ago
Yes, very important to find a competent master... only, Wong Kiew Kit learned taiji from a cheap Hong kong book - he says so himself. His students say he is so high level it doesn't matter - he under!stood the 'essence'. So, yeah, you need to find a teacher, but to be a fraud like Wong, you just need a cheap book and gullible followers. D'oh
FamilyQuan 2 years ago
in a dojo
Coliekokker 3 years ago
find a disiple of master chen xiao wang, chen style taiji
taijihitman 2 years ago
haha I've never been patient enough to really take in tai chi. I wish I had this sifu, I probably would've stuck around longer. As for internal power, if you don't believe, you haven't been hit by the right person.
civic626 3 years ago
lol this is in fast motion
rstvz1 3 years ago
wicked powerstands XD
jacobsiostrom 3 years ago
tai chi can be really deadly
darkman664 3 years ago 2
muzzman is totally right. You cannot jugde properly if you don't know about it. Tai Chi is all about balance. The dude is practicing that, off course it looks a little odd and "not cool".
Being a deadly fighter is not about being "cool" it's about balance and control. Even I who knows absolutly nothing about tai chi can see that.
The people here who call others "shit-tards" and stuff obviously are to dumb to give a polite reaction and therefore they make a disgrace of themselves.
greets
Cepheidius 3 years ago 2
Dude, you're right on!
MystXIIIHeartnet 3 years ago
Kawonsch!
monkfg 3 years ago
vile says mma pwns ur face, all these fukin ufc dick suckers. UFC is cool they are the top fighters they are in top shape. But are u in top shape with top mma training vile bet u arent so anyone who only trains tai chi n doesnt workout will kick ur ass shit in ur face n say mma blows my cock
dukeslaps 3 years ago
Anyone who has anything negative to say about tai chi. Or any internal martial art for that matter. Should have fought or at least sparred a practitioner of tai chi before saying anything about how weak or strong the style is. also, i ask that you find someone who has been studying for at least five or more years. Don't be a puss and fight a white belt.
muzzman10 3 years ago
mma pwns your face.
Vilemk0 3 years ago
wow you guys have no idea what your talking about when you say that tai chi is for meditation only and that any real fighter would crush someone using tai chi, have you ever seen someone using tai chi in a fight, and not this bafoon either, tai chi when used correctly in a fight, is dominating, look further into it if you don't believe me, like really search around, you'll see what i'm talking about.
DreamofPhyrexia 3 years ago 22
Where is your fucking proof of that you goddamn mystified peasant? Go back to fucking fantasy land you homo.
Blndrfist 3 years ago
Martial arts is serious business. Go masturbate to Kimbo.
SuperUberMegaBread 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
"Martial arts" is serious business only for the scamurai masters who profit from this complete bullshit by selling it to credulous, orientophile believers just like you who are so excited to hand over all their money for claims of secret "internal chi power" bullshit. Grow up.
Blndrfist 3 years ago
If people fall for shit like that, then that's too bad. Bitch more, no one cares.
SuperUberMegaBread 3 years ago
Except you fall for it; so you are one of the gullabe, shit-tard, credulous LARPing loses.
Blndrfist 3 years ago
Rage more.
SuperUberMegaBread 3 years ago 2
@DreamofPhyrexia Even the best fighter that ever lived on the Earth (For me it's Bruce Lee) has used to train Taijiquan. If you know a little about his history you'll now that when he got injured and he was in bed for 6 months he used to read a dozens of Taijiquan books he started to train it and instead of listening to his doctors which said that he wont be able to kick again, Bruce Lee became much better than he was .
shadowsabere 1 year ago
@DreamofPhyrexia im sorry dude but tai chi is indeed a martial art and a damn fast one its a common mistake to think that what you see is slow moving but that is only to PRACTICE the actual strikes and evasion movements wich are actually preatty useful this video in particular is mabey a equivalent of a flip in tai qwon do or a counter strike the whole martial art is not made up from stuff like or the stuff you see on tv
XLRO8 5 months ago
Umm....did you even read my whole comment? Cause my entire comment is about how ppl don't realize how sick tai chi really is as a fighting style. And that this video is a poor example of how effective tai chi can be. So i don't know what that whole rant was about, cause your really not saying anything different from what i said in the first place
DreamofPhyrexia 5 months ago
@DreamofPhyrexia whatever dude
XLRO8 5 months ago
HAHA In China 24-styles TAIJI-QUAN just leisure for old chaps...
TSshisan 3 years ago
fhoooahhhh, fwooohahhhhh
fwoooooooahhhhh, fwoooahhh
NreeKelBastardos 3 years ago
soooo wheres the fighting??
mani101 3 years ago
its meditation, any fighter would destroy that guy
jxcream 3 years ago
The trains taichi, but it is alone in the stage of the form,
if it was facing a real person who trains taichi, they would not turn out to be to him his skills or tecnique.
it is good but it is in a good beginning further away that other peoples
javieretxebe 3 years ago
only looked this up because its said waterbending is based on this- i dont understand
lilrdog 3 years ago
Tai Chi emulates the flowing movements of water. I also looked up to see it too, but this doesn't really provide much concept of water bending.. Try looking up Sifu Kisu
Galeon7777 3 years ago
hello it aint avatar or so dumasses its a control of chi sport=.='go watch youre cartoons
2cjnt4 3 years ago
I know that, idiot.. I was trying to provide some information to lilrdog because he didn't understand how Tai Chi Chuan was used in Avatar as waterbending from this video.. =.=" yourself..
Galeon7777 3 years ago
Actually, when Master Paku is training Aang, he even tells him to feel the push and pull of the water. This is something that you would try to achieve if you practiced Tai Chi. It's like Galeon said.
And we know it's not Avatar, but Water bending is designed after Tai Chi because it "emulates the flowing movements of water" as Galeon put it. It's interesting to see where they got the form of water bending from. But I'm not here for water bending myself...
Ebrithil 3 years ago
Not too good... GJC
Clygar52 4 years ago
man, he is good, even better than many chinese guys
jimmyjamesWang 4 years ago
meh
muzzman10 3 years ago
Yin Yang
JParoro 4 years ago
OMG IM SEEING DOUBLE!!! AHHHHH!
Myderion 4 years ago
stupid directer
zear511 4 years ago
Nice applications
polariswushudotnet 4 years ago
I agree.
~Cg~
graychuan 4 years ago
same here. saw new insight...
MASoulChild85 4 years ago
It is tai ji quan there are many forms get it???!
moritsuna 4 years ago
thats not taiji
andymach33 4 years ago
Of course , it is formula 1 ... without car
idiot
vince84231 4 years ago
it is.. one of the forms.. and this guy can tell it's good..
Xw0LveS89 4 years ago
it's interesting, but besides the slow taichi movements everything seems that it would be learned from doing kungfu (wushu), so not sure how this is specifically from taichi. I also thought taichi was about inner peace and not conflict.
reon1978 4 years ago
inner peace on one hand and martial application on the other... no contradictions
vince84231 4 years ago
I'm no kungfu expert, but I read that Shaolin kungfu starts external and advances to internal, whereas Taijiquan starts internal and advances to external? Both should result in the same end - external ability with internal power?
MrMagoo79 4 years ago
It's exact MrMagoo
vince84231 4 years ago
Compliments! The applications look nice!
Taichimaster 5 years ago
Hi Thierry,
good applications.
peter from germany
Goberl 5 years ago
looked pretty good to me
littlecannon 5 years ago
Not bad. Good body movement and fluidity in both form and application. Could generate more movement and power from the hips though as opposed to just the wait.
dhjmckenzie 5 years ago
beautiful!
Fram1996 5 years ago