@SHARED745 - Are they diesel locomotives designed for freight trains, and more importantly, how well did they accelerate, which is the topic of this video (not top speed)?
@hunghuge12 yep, these push-pull sets are very much made up from recycled parts! The locos are former freight haulers from the main line, refurbished and put into use on the Auckland suburban rail network. The carriages are ex-British Rail Mark 3 carriages, imported, rebuilt and used as seen here.
The diesel trains run in England by Cross Country Trains are pretty impressive, in particular the Penzance to Dundee express. I travelled on this train from Exeter to Bristol Temple Meads and it averaged about 90 mph including stops! OK I may have got the maths wrong but it was still pretty quick. The stops were barely a minute, as soon as people had got off or on it was away and you could really feel the acceleration, amazing to run at that speed on Victorian built lines!
@TheDylanJoyce - They have been installing ditch lights to our fleet progressively over the last decade, and the programme is almost complete. They have until a certain date to have them on everything, as a legal requirement.
It looks and sounds like a diesel, not saying this is because it does accelerate fast. But I'm thinking that since it's only 4 cars connected to it, are they all empty? It's not hard for a 3000hp diesel to get up to speed that fast with barely any weight in the way.
@GeoffBlackmore Oh now that I think of it, the West Coast Express commuter train probably uses them, I haven't been near one or ridden on them though.
@GeoffBlackmore No, new-built G22s used the same 12-645E diesel as the SW1500, MP15 and GP15-1. The 12-654C is a 12-567C, as found in the SW1200, rebuilt with 654-type cylinter assemblies.
Actually. It isn't the diesel engine. Its an electric motor powered by the Diesel Generator. You can't put that kind of stress on and engine... It would be nearly 1 clutch per trip. xD
@GeoffBlackmore Imagine being a passenger about midway through.
KNOWING that all that brute strength was available PLUS pushing from the rear...?
AMZING what would go through Ur mind .. before everything else did .. If?
If there was a wee foul_up .. similar to the Hyde Railway Disaster .. or the oopsie at Rakia Bridge .. or .. even the bigger Oopsie .. into the tangiwai river.
ALL of that brute power
Pushing against a solid object .. and the only thing between-- were those flimsy cars & U
I'M A TRAIN ENGINEER AND CAN SAY THAT IN THIS VIDEO, BOTH ENGINES ARE PUSHING WHICH RENDERS THIS ACCELERATION METHOD INEFFICIENT BUT MOST COMMUTER TRAINS ARE CAPABLE OF IT.
I know crap about trains, never been on one, if you had a glass of water on a slick table inside would it slide off, because that looked pretty smooth to me.
I work for CSX and I can tell you that they adjust all the locomotives load under power for their application. We have RCO GP38's in the yard that we use and when you notch it up in 3 or 4 it goes from loading mad slow to literally jumping at you. It's set up that way for kicking cars. All the freight road power that you guys mostly see load really slow, which is the way they should be. Passenger diesels are set up differently, since they usually run a 5-12 car consist, with exceptions.
That's very quick acceleration. Would be interesting to know how quick.
Not that suprising though I suppose its only a featherweight load for that locomotive. We have some similar consists in the UK with very rapid acceleration.
@Simzak951 - From what I hear the Wellington ones are quite a bit slower, as the SW carriage sets are bigger and heavier, but still just one DC. Maybe if they run a short consist of three cars it might be faster, but do they do that?
@GeoffBlackmore Ur Thinking Of The Old English Emu The EM\ET Units Are Faster Than That With 6 Cars But We Have Brand New Trains Now That Are Alot Better Than The EM\Et Units There FP Units.
@Simzak951 - I wasn't thinking of EMU's at all, as this video is about diesel loco acceleration. Wellington's ones are the same as Auckland - DC class locos, but they mostly work larger trains so are not as fast at accelerating.
that type of train is used to far heavier loads usually, so the speedy acceleration doesnt suprise me, but its still cool, that engine has a lot more power than is needed to push that little bunch of passenfer cars
the locomotive was designed to pull and push alot heavier loads than that. seems possible for it to get up to speed with a few empty passanger boxes to push.
@blackpool2010 - Yes, but those are purpose-built high speed trains. This is an old 1960's locomotive that spent most of its life on freight trains. In the US it would called a road switcher.
@Amtrak1194 - Yep, it's NZ, and the loco has an EMD 12-645C engine. They are planning to use more powerful locos fitted with an EMD 12-645E3C turboed engine very soon, hauling six cars instead of four.
wow.. great video... the fastest train ive ever seen pull away is defently the eurostar... this is close. AND very impressive as its a loco and its deisel right?
@jinkozane - your class 158's are not locomotives though, they are DMU's correct? Our DMU's here are faster as well, but that's not what this video is about.
@GeoffBlackmore Hello again, thank you for the info. As ex-railwayman I was counting the cars for 50 tons including passengers and the loco for 80 tons including full tank. But if the total is only 200 tons, very lightweight stuff indeed. And the acceleration is understandable.
Not to offend but to inform, im pretty sure the the trains even at the end of the steam engine, the can run forwards and backwards, with what end pushes orpulles does not matter.
a second engine is also very useful on hills up and down, and on take offs and stopping.
The driver needs to be in the leading vehicle (with controls) to operate at normal speed, so without that ability any other train with a loco at the back would be restricted to 10km/h and would require a person to stand on the leading vehicle to pilot the train. The train in this video only has one engine, the leading vehicle is only a control car.
It pulls in one direction, then pushes in the other. Much easier than uncoupling the loco, turning it around and moving it to the opposite end of the train.
This train is in fact under-powered. Suburban trains need very fast acceleration to do their job properly and the poor old Dc class engines are not the best engines for the job but are the best we have. When the more powerful DFT engines are put on these jobs they will be better. When the new electric locos arrive over the next few years, they should give our suburban trains the power to weight ratio they require for some very fast running
Not that early on, the first MkII's to enter service in NZ were about 1998 on the Capital Connection. The Auckland SA/SD cars have only been entering service since 2004.
The movie is not backwards, that's why the headlights are on the front and red tail lights on the back, and why the exhaust trails the train. You can also see the LE's seat on the right hand side of the locomotive at the back, is empty (and there is a car in the car park driving forward). This is a push-pull train, so the loco is at the rear half the time.
That was a diesel pusher. But by the way, all trains are electric in one way. The engine does not turn the wheel. Insted the engine turns an alternator(generator). They have electric traction motors. Most trains have 4 400+hp traction motors and large trains can have 8 hence the bigger motor to turn a bigger alternator.
true apart from in germany where a lot of diesel hydraulics r/ were used, these either have multiple torque convertors (different ones for different speeds-dont ask!) or torque convertors and gearboxes.
All trains are electric. The key is the source of the electricity. All trains run on electric traction motors. Either power from supply line or power from the diesel powered generator. Difference is weight. All electric can't pull the same weight over distance. Turbo motors are replacing diesel. They are already making them in Eire Pa.
Only collectors. They were never built for production in our country. The first here was a diesel electric. I deliver parts all accross the country for trains. One of the biggest repair and restoration companies is Progress Rail. They take old trains and rebild them for private use. Again all are diesel eletric.
Diesel Electric is most common. Diesel Hydralic, like tpvalley says, is common in Germany and other parts of Europe with German influence. The Western Region in the UK also used Hydralics (built in Britain, but to German designs) although these were withdrawn early as none standard. Diesel Mechanical is very rare for locomotives, the only real exception being small shunters (switchers) although even there Diesel Electric is common.
Ours are diesel mechanical. Type in Class 159 leaving clapham in the search box. Cummins 350hp or 400hp engine and Voith Hydraulic transmission. Strangely the 350hp versions are quicker than the 400hp for some reason.
Well that's not a conventional diesel loco designed for general purpose use including freight trains, which is what this is. Voyager is a DMU or Railcar.
The term light rail is because the light rail vehicles (LRV's) are built to a light weight design, as is much of the infrastructure, although the rails themselves are often comparable to heavy rail specs. A subway is an underground train or light rail system (I hear what you're saying, but there's no such thing as an above ground subway)
There is a kind of a above ground subway system. The NYC Subway system is mostly above ground when in Brooklyn, Queens and The Bronx. However when in Manhattan its entirely underground.
Back in 1966 Queensland Railways introduced the 1720 EMD powered locos for suburban trains.They were fitted with a quick start switch which meant that as quick as the engine reached full revs the traction current was at maximum.The driver went immediately to notch 8 on starting and got very quick acceleration. I presume these NZ locos have been wired the same way. Surprisingly this driver goes to notch 6, then 7 but doesn't go to full power until the loco passes the camera.
The engine has more power then you'll ever need on a small rake of light carriages like that, so yeah it'll pull up as if nothing's holding it back. But even still, that was pretty darn quick!
This was someones many years of model training. Nice work!
berger1980 1 month ago
Wow
Mdudeman13 1 month ago
That certainly was an impressive acceleration.
TheMrbum 1 month ago
i blinked and missed it =D i dont understand bus and train spotters
dansk8erboi 2 months ago
Yes, the BB trains was more faster, 120KM/H normal travel and the reccord in france in 1960 was 180KM/H with the same BB trains.
SHARED745 2 months ago
@SHARED745 - Are they diesel locomotives designed for freight trains, and more importantly, how well did they accelerate, which is the topic of this video (not top speed)?
GeoffBlackmore 2 months ago
Good old Dc they dont complain if you throw them straight into notch 8
Jamie1389 2 months ago
Now THAT'S how you get to the next station right on time...~
SegaMario 2 months ago
I don't know much about trains but that engine looks like it was built to push/pull something a LOT heavier than that train.
hunghuge12 3 months ago
@hunghuge12 yep, these push-pull sets are very much made up from recycled parts! The locos are former freight haulers from the main line, refurbished and put into use on the Auckland suburban rail network. The carriages are ex-British Rail Mark 3 carriages, imported, rebuilt and used as seen here.
bewareofcabbage 3 months ago
@bewareofcabbage - Mk2 Carriages.
GeoffBlackmore 3 months ago
i like trains !
JanneTheDude 3 months ago
who cares if its fast... the traction can be still fucked up
Flamy507 4 months ago
Uk 220/221 voyagers accelerate as fast as that.
Glimt182 4 months ago
@Glimt182 - Although Voyagers are not 1960s-era freight locomotives like this.
GeoffBlackmore 4 months ago 3
@Glimt182 there call plastic shit boxes, not voyagers...pointless things
CornishMorgan 1 month ago
I like the idea of the GM as the banker, sounds really nice, sounds like the V8's and V16s with Roots Blowers on top over here in Aus :)
tyronewasup 4 months ago
Standing quarter mile in?...
soberek 5 months ago
I want that engine in my car :)
biscanin07 5 months ago
The first car also looked like an engen. then you see the cab at the rear pushing it lol.
Tdawg1978 6 months ago
@Tdawg1978 - The first car is just a cab, it doesn't provide any motive power for the train.
GeoffBlackmore 6 months ago
Never met someone interested so much in trains!
sk8t3rforever 6 months ago
cool
the67go 7 months ago
Wow! Thats awesome,Im definitley impressed,thanks for sharing!
simonspics1 7 months ago
The diesel trains run in England by Cross Country Trains are pretty impressive, in particular the Penzance to Dundee express. I travelled on this train from Exeter to Bristol Temple Meads and it averaged about 90 mph including stops! OK I may have got the maths wrong but it was still pretty quick. The stops were barely a minute, as soon as people had got off or on it was away and you could really feel the acceleration, amazing to run at that speed on Victorian built lines!
techdavey1000 7 months ago
I though american trains were the only trains that did that flashing "ditch light" thing...
TheDylanJoyce 7 months ago
@TheDylanJoyce - They have been installing ditch lights to our fleet progressively over the last decade, and the programme is almost complete. They have until a certain date to have them on everything, as a legal requirement.
GeoffBlackmore 7 months ago
@@TheDylanJoyce nope,
Qeensland Rail (QR) in Australia's newest passenger trains also do this.
slyfox2151 5 months ago
@TheDylanJoyce
search for Citytrain IMU 162
slyfox2151 5 months ago
It looks and sounds like a diesel, not saying this is because it does accelerate fast. But I'm thinking that since it's only 4 cars connected to it, are they all empty? It's not hard for a 3000hp diesel to get up to speed that fast with barely any weight in the way.
sookster54 7 months ago
@sookster54 - Indeed, although I'll point out that the loco only has 1500hp.
GeoffBlackmore 7 months ago
@sookster54 Oh only 1500hp? I'm even more impressed, our trains on CN are upwards of 4000-5000hp, some of the old EMD's are around 3500hp.
sookster54 7 months ago
@sookster54 - Yep, the loco here is an EMD G22AR, powered by a 12-645C. Isn't that the same as what you'll find under the hood of an SW1500?
GeoffBlackmore 7 months ago
@GeoffBlackmore Oh now that I think of it, the West Coast Express commuter train probably uses them, I haven't been near one or ridden on them though.
sookster54 7 months ago
@GeoffBlackmore No, new-built G22s used the same 12-645E diesel as the SW1500, MP15 and GP15-1. The 12-654C is a 12-567C, as found in the SW1200, rebuilt with 654-type cylinter assemblies.
Atomsk102 6 months ago
Dam..
dtiydr 8 months ago
It went too fast, I didnt see it.
unkonshus 8 months ago 18
Actually. It isn't the diesel engine. Its an electric motor powered by the Diesel Generator. You can't put that kind of stress on and engine... It would be nearly 1 clutch per trip. xD
ccraig412 8 months ago 3
@ccraig412 - It's a normal diesel-electric locomotive, i.e., a diesel engine provides power to traction motors.
GeoffBlackmore 8 months ago
@GeoffBlackmore Imagine being a passenger about midway through.
KNOWING that all that brute strength was available PLUS pushing from the rear...?
AMZING what would go through Ur mind .. before everything else did .. If?
If there was a wee foul_up .. similar to the Hyde Railway Disaster .. or the oopsie at Rakia Bridge .. or .. even the bigger Oopsie .. into the tangiwai river.
ALL of that brute power
Pushing against a solid object .. and the only thing between-- were those flimsy cars & U
QUIX4U 7 months ago
@QUIX4U not a good feeling huh?
simonspics1 7 months ago
I'M A TRAIN ENGINEER AND CAN SAY THAT IN THIS VIDEO, BOTH ENGINES ARE PUSHING WHICH RENDERS THIS ACCELERATION METHOD INEFFICIENT BUT MOST COMMUTER TRAINS ARE CAPABLE OF IT.
monthtrial 8 months ago
@monthtrial - The train only has one engine. The lead vehicle is a cab control car only, and has no form of motive power.
GeoffBlackmore 8 months ago
@monthtrial IM AN ALGAE BIODIESEL ENGINEER AND I RENDER ALL PUBLIC TRANSPORT AS EFFICIENT
Maxpow33r 8 months ago
hahahahahaha i laughed so hard when i realised this video is just a train accelerating
josspretty 9 months ago
lol nuclear train ftw
xdudeyourcool 9 months ago
I know crap about trains, never been on one, if you had a glass of water on a slick table inside would it slide off, because that looked pretty smooth to me.
Burnz2much 9 months ago
@Burnz2much - commuter trains don't usually have tables for the passengers.
JBofBrisbane 8 months ago
drag train tournament.. lol...
patchoBR 9 months ago
260 people missed the train!
s14owner 10 months ago
I work for CSX and I can tell you that they adjust all the locomotives load under power for their application. We have RCO GP38's in the yard that we use and when you notch it up in 3 or 4 it goes from loading mad slow to literally jumping at you. It's set up that way for kicking cars. All the freight road power that you guys mostly see load really slow, which is the way they should be. Passenger diesels are set up differently, since they usually run a 5-12 car consist, with exceptions.
pznerd 10 months ago 3
impressive
icebreaker127 11 months ago
That's very quick acceleration. Would be interesting to know how quick.
Not that suprising though I suppose its only a featherweight load for that locomotive. We have some similar consists in the UK with very rapid acceleration.
daltrey1000 1 year ago 3
wheres this at?
codybrock2345 1 year ago
Czegoś takiego w Polsce nie zobaczymy.
MeHowVideo 1 year ago
ever been to London? You have to check the sound of the subway trains out as they accelerate... its insane!!!
Buemmo 1 year ago
I never noticed what was ment to be so different until I saw the Deisel loco at the rear. Nice spot.
Sharpslade 1 year ago
Trains usually can take off quicker with a help of Sanders which throws Sands on the tracks to get the wheels to get better tractions.
briggsjos 1 year ago
i been there
bbradly111 1 year ago
Nice! that was fast!
justkiddin08 1 year ago
dam that train got some balls!
quingod22 1 year ago
Quite impressive pick-up!
ilovemywife34 1 year ago
Wellingtons Start Up Wayy Faster
Simzak951 1 year ago
@Simzak951 - From what I hear the Wellington ones are quite a bit slower, as the SW carriage sets are bigger and heavier, but still just one DC. Maybe if they run a short consist of three cars it might be faster, but do they do that?
GeoffBlackmore 1 year ago
@GeoffBlackmore Ur Thinking Of The Old English Emu The EM\ET Units Are Faster Than That With 6 Cars But We Have Brand New Trains Now That Are Alot Better Than The EM\Et Units There FP Units.
Simzak951 1 year ago
@Simzak951 - I wasn't thinking of EMU's at all, as this video is about diesel loco acceleration. Wellington's ones are the same as Auckland - DC class locos, but they mostly work larger trains so are not as fast at accelerating.
GeoffBlackmore 1 year ago
@GeoffBlackmore
Wellikngton's commuter trains aren't hauled by DCs....
voogdr 1 year ago
@voogdr - DC's are the most common locos on Wellington's carriage trains, although other loco types frequent the Capital Connection.
GeoffBlackmore 1 year ago
@voogdr Maybe there was no one on a the train and it was lighter to go away better?
MK360VAL 1 year ago
I never understood why so many people underestimate diesels...gotta love that American built power. :) Great video! Just subbed!
mongo5888 1 year ago 4
lolol - i can just imagine grandma who just got on trying to get to her seat with her walking stick clinging on for dear life lolol
bikersupermoto 1 year ago 31
I love it
jizzbot2000 1 year ago
This is a push-pull unit?
Jean793 1 year ago
@Jean793 - Yep.
GeoffBlackmore 1 year ago
This is New Zealand Train.............
krushnabiswal 1 year ago
It's fast, yes! Miracle, no! Four rather short and probably light passenger cars aren't really that much work, don't you think?
I just read 200 tons train weight, including(!) loco. SLUMBER PARTY!
5D49 1 year ago
that type of train is used to far heavier loads usually, so the speedy acceleration doesnt suprise me, but its still cool, that engine has a lot more power than is needed to push that little bunch of passenfer cars
zythepsarian 1 year ago
It must be geared very well! (low ratio) tope speed 80kmh?
aussietraindriver 1 year ago
Loco looks very Americanish !
peterpocasset 1 year ago
the locomotive was designed to pull and push alot heavier loads than that. seems possible for it to get up to speed with a few empty passanger boxes to push.
itsmister2u 1 year ago
This is fast for a loco train but the Voyager trains of the United Kingdom accelerate much faster.
blackpool2010 1 year ago
@blackpool2010 - Yes, but those are purpose-built high speed trains. This is an old 1960's locomotive that spent most of its life on freight trains. In the US it would called a road switcher.
GeoffBlackmore 1 year ago 21
@GeoffBlackmore ....it looks American,, too.
peterpocasset 1 year ago
@GeoffBlackmore It accelerated fast because its going down hill.
Take a close look at it.
USMANchampNO1 1 year ago
wow must have great traction sweet vid
leedraven20 1 year ago
New Zealand right?
btw that is extremely fast for a loco-powered train!
Amtrak1194 1 year ago
@Amtrak1194 - Yep, it's NZ, and the loco has an EMD 12-645C engine. They are planning to use more powerful locos fitted with an EMD 12-645E3C turboed engine very soon, hauling six cars instead of four.
GeoffBlackmore 1 year ago
metropolitana all' aperto e diesel!,semplicemente...
VINBAR55 1 year ago
@VINBAR55 - no metro. Just one old locomotive and four unpowered carriages
GeoffBlackmore 1 year ago
wow.. great video... the fastest train ive ever seen pull away is defently the eurostar... this is close. AND very impressive as its a loco and its deisel right?
SuperHardTrance 1 year ago
Nothing special. Our 158s can do that in the right conditions
jinkozane 1 year ago
@jinkozane - your class 158's are not locomotives though, they are DMU's correct? Our DMU's here are faster as well, but that's not what this video is about.
GeoffBlackmore 1 year ago
is that why it has "Maxx" on the side?????
yOiTsJp777 1 year ago
@viviboye It's a push-pull train.
GeoffBlackmore 1 year ago
that was fast...
tomek123kotek 1 year ago
Very FAST! But Russian ТЭП 80 is faster
killahertz1981 1 year ago
Train with a weight of 330 metric tons, 1500 hp, normal acceleration.
Nothing very special.
But, I guess the first car of the train also has an engine?
hans2406 1 year ago
Only the locomotive has an engine. Train weight is only about 200 tonnes including locomotive.
GeoffBlackmore 1 year ago
@GeoffBlackmore Hello again, thank you for the info. As ex-railwayman I was counting the cars for 50 tons including passengers and the loco for 80 tons including full tank. But if the total is only 200 tons, very lightweight stuff indeed. And the acceleration is understandable.
hans2406 1 year ago
Hi there @hans2406 : No the first car is only a driving trailer -- the only power is in the pushing loco. Cheers
Pykem 1 year ago
hey this is NZ isnt it ?
BrotherPAZUZU 1 year ago
Man.... I've never seen trains go so fast.......
W4llyB4nger 1 year ago
wow thanks for vid. and info.
randog69 1 year ago
Not to offend but to inform, im pretty sure the the trains even at the end of the steam engine, the can run forwards and backwards, with what end pushes orpulles does not matter.
a second engine is also very useful on hills up and down, and on take offs and stopping.
TheUnseenguy 2 years ago
The driver needs to be in the leading vehicle (with controls) to operate at normal speed, so without that ability any other train with a loco at the back would be restricted to 10km/h and would require a person to stand on the leading vehicle to pilot the train. The train in this video only has one engine, the leading vehicle is only a control car.
GeoffBlackmore 2 years ago
Oh OK, shows how much i know lol thanks for the info.
TheUnseenguy 2 years ago
why is the engine pushing it instead of pulling?
neildaust 2 years ago
It pulls in one direction, then pushes in the other. Much easier than uncoupling the loco, turning it around and moving it to the opposite end of the train.
GeoffBlackmore 2 years ago 2
@GeoffBlackmore it makes sense
InsaneMetalSoldier 1 year ago
thats quite a short train. How many HP's on that loco?
ashesh0326 2 years ago
1500hp, EMD model G22AR.
GeoffBlackmore 2 years ago
@GeoffBlackmore yeah, thats pretty swift for a 1500 HP locomotive. I was expecting more. Plus I think its a narrow gauge line.
ashesh0326 1 year ago
That's a lot of power for a tiny train like that.
envance 2 years ago 3
This train is in fact under-powered. Suburban trains need very fast acceleration to do their job properly and the poor old Dc class engines are not the best engines for the job but are the best we have. When the more powerful DFT engines are put on these jobs they will be better. When the new electric locos arrive over the next few years, they should give our suburban trains the power to weight ratio they require for some very fast running
bigkiwimike 1 year ago
The trains driver originally wanted to be a race car driver I'm guessing lol
TrainSpotterX 2 years ago
And I thought train diesels were slow lol.
HYPHYDUM408 2 years ago
Scoot and kaboot man, that thing took off.
wovelscotch 2 years ago
Nice vid!
Those carriages look like the converted ex British Rail MkIIs.
The86416 2 years ago 3
Yes, they are. We have about 90 of them in Auckland.
GeoffBlackmore 2 years ago
Yes, some MKII's were built for New Zealand railways in the late 80's. I think they look good in that livery.
rorymacve 2 years ago
Not that early on, the first MkII's to enter service in NZ were about 1998 on the Capital Connection. The Auckland SA/SD cars have only been entering service since 2004.
GeoffBlackmore 2 years ago
Oh ok, I think it might have been somewhere else where specialized MKII's were being made for, may have been Northern Ireland.
rorymacve 2 years ago
Damn I wish I had a motor like that in my car!
gaijininja 2 years ago
I'm having a hard time believing it's diesel, holy crapppp.
Practically the same acceleration as a subway train.
BostonUrbEx 2 years ago 34
@BostonUrbEx looll... starts much better then WV Golf V tdi..
hehehehe
11replay11 11 months ago
IS that locomotive remote controled from the front of the pasenger cars
037291 2 years ago
The locomotive is controlled from the leading car through a standard MU cable that runs through all cars.
GeoffBlackmore 2 years ago
how much is power to weight ratio of this train?
karrpoff 2 years ago
thats fast lol but you have to take in to consideration that it is a 4 car passenger train with two engiensXD
kawiornothing 2 years ago
There's only one engine, at the back.
GeoffBlackmore 2 years ago
the passenger cars are self propelled
indinajones1 2 years ago
No they are not, that's why they have a locomotive on the train!
GeoffBlackmore 2 years ago
Yeah our commuter train Frontrunner is a push pull.
FoxGTR34Nismo 2 years ago
Reminds me of Danish push-pull trains before electrification. The Danish GM-powered diesel locos seemed to have only 2 throttle position: on and off.
isomolle 2 years ago
Mentira. Vídeo de trás pra frente.
Lie. Movie backwards.
zirocoolbr 2 years ago
The movie is not backwards, that's why the headlights are on the front and red tail lights on the back, and why the exhaust trails the train. You can also see the LE's seat on the right hand side of the locomotive at the back, is empty (and there is a car in the car park driving forward). This is a push-pull train, so the loco is at the rear half the time.
GeoffBlackmore 2 years ago
Dang!. pretty fast for a diesel engine. lol.
duckieification 2 years ago 25
is this in new zealand?
tubestick00 2 years ago 5
electric engines can generate much more torque,
by electromagnetic induction den dese old diesel
n were iz acc in dis video??
LeonTheCoolJohn 2 years ago
Why put an electric train in a video about diesel locomotives?
GeoffBlackmore 2 years ago
That was a diesel pusher. But by the way, all trains are electric in one way. The engine does not turn the wheel. Insted the engine turns an alternator(generator). They have electric traction motors. Most trains have 4 400+hp traction motors and large trains can have 8 hence the bigger motor to turn a bigger alternator.
bbaker904 2 years ago
true apart from in germany where a lot of diesel hydraulics r/ were used, these either have multiple torque convertors (different ones for different speeds-dont ask!) or torque convertors and gearboxes.
tpvalley 2 years ago
All trains are electric. The key is the source of the electricity. All trains run on electric traction motors. Either power from supply line or power from the diesel powered generator. Difference is weight. All electric can't pull the same weight over distance. Turbo motors are replacing diesel. They are already making them in Eire Pa.
bbaker904 2 years ago
Not all are electric, there are also diesel-mechanical and diesel-hydraulic locomotives, in addition to diesel-electric.
GeoffBlackmore 2 years ago
Only collectors. They were never built for production in our country. The first here was a diesel electric. I deliver parts all accross the country for trains. One of the biggest repair and restoration companies is Progress Rail. They take old trains and rebild them for private use. Again all are diesel eletric.
bbaker904 2 years ago
Diesel Electric is most common. Diesel Hydralic, like tpvalley says, is common in Germany and other parts of Europe with German influence. The Western Region in the UK also used Hydralics (built in Britain, but to German designs) although these were withdrawn early as none standard. Diesel Mechanical is very rare for locomotives, the only real exception being small shunters (switchers) although even there Diesel Electric is common.
ChrisCooper312 1 year ago
Ours are diesel mechanical. Type in Class 159 leaving clapham in the search box. Cummins 350hp or 400hp engine and Voith Hydraulic transmission. Strangely the 350hp versions are quicker than the 400hp for some reason.
krisjende 2 years ago
One of the most important videos of the internet ;-)
But it´s nice.
aloisbembel 2 years ago
very nice.
a good one!!
cheersabhishek 2 years ago
Captain Janeway's starship? I didn't know it was diesel powered with 1960's technology!
GeoffBlackmore 2 years ago
no the class 220 voyager an english train
SNAKEMAN742 2 years ago
Well that's not a conventional diesel loco designed for general purpose use including freight trains, which is what this is. Voyager is a DMU or Railcar.
GeoffBlackmore 2 years ago
its a train in the uk, thats its nick name, its real id is the class 220
branchlinedisaster 2 years ago
the new "light rail" in Minnesota dosent have a diesel engine in the back and it has more aceleration
They call it light rail because its a subway above ground so its not dark accept at night
wafflesgivemegas 2 years ago
The term light rail is because the light rail vehicles (LRV's) are built to a light weight design, as is much of the infrastructure, although the rails themselves are often comparable to heavy rail specs. A subway is an underground train or light rail system (I hear what you're saying, but there's no such thing as an above ground subway)
GeoffBlackmore 2 years ago
what i meant was its like a subway above ground cause it acts like a subway from somewhere like new york
wafflesgivemegas 2 years ago
There is a kind of a above ground subway system. The NYC Subway system is mostly above ground when in Brooklyn, Queens and The Bronx. However when in Manhattan its entirely underground.
STSDrummer03 2 years ago
Back in 1966 Queensland Railways introduced the 1720 EMD powered locos for suburban trains.They were fitted with a quick start switch which meant that as quick as the engine reached full revs the traction current was at maximum.The driver went immediately to notch 8 on starting and got very quick acceleration. I presume these NZ locos have been wired the same way. Surprisingly this driver goes to notch 6, then 7 but doesn't go to full power until the loco passes the camera.
CGT867 2 years ago
Hello from across the pond
Great vid, I viewed & rated it 5 stars keep up the great work.
TrainSpotterX 2 years ago
To be fair, i'd say that's pretty bloody close to notch 8, But was it mixed power? Isn't the lead car a 'train' in itself without the DC on the back?
Any ideas Geoff?
produKtNZ 2 years ago
Just the loco at rear providing motive power. The diesel generator inside the leading car is only to provide power for the carriage lights and doors.
GeoffBlackmore 2 years ago
NICE
XXXIRXXX 2 years ago
holy cow that was fast=]
bluebuzzardcod4 2 years ago
how is that fast?
chickmagnet569 2 years ago 2
This is an older conventional diesel loco, not an electric loco or DMU/EMU. For such a type, this is quite responsive.
GeoffBlackmore 2 years ago
o rite yeah in that case thats fast, i thought it was like a modern train. that is fast
chickmagnet569 2 years ago
it wasn't till 0:40 then it just went insane, the camera had to zoom just to maintain sight
1madaboutguitar 2 years ago
Very nice Diesel, very good sound! All 5 ***** from north Germany!
sansitwins 2 years ago
Diesel trains like that are used to haul huge loads of coal, this is like lifting up a paperclip to that train.
RumbleFighterMan 2 years ago
this is the fastest train i've ever seen xd
BRAINYSTUFF 2 years ago
i think he'll get nicked for speeding XD
trainlover657 2 years ago
0-60 in 22 seconds.
TheLightningStalker 2 years ago 2
That could out-accelerate my Honda. LOL
ComSubPac2009 2 years ago
The engine has more power then you'll ever need on a small rake of light carriages like that, so yeah it'll pull up as if nothing's holding it back. But even still, that was pretty darn quick!
Tiger313NL 2 years ago
Was that real camera speed at the end?
blondi195656 2 years ago
It was real camera speed throughout.
GeoffBlackmore 2 years ago
Would've thought it would be a DMU for that...
DocileBomb 2 years ago
Auckland has a mix of these trains and DMU's.
GeoffBlackmore 2 years ago
nah the light was green its just when the train goes by when its green it goes red
grandtheftyoshi88 2 years ago
Low ratio traction motors & good EMD power.
nuff' said.
papabugs71 2 years ago 3
Electric train acceleration on a diesel pull-push, notch 8 in less than 1/2 mile.
pablof59 2 years ago 2