Akai APC40 vs. NI Maschine (Acid Jam)

[ILOVEMAKINGMUSIC74]

out of akai and mashine, which do you recommend?..nice mix btw

[vgotho]

man,great track!

[riolman777]

ROKIT 5's if you have neighbors ... they still bitch but fn great sound.

[SuicideServer]

@riolman777

haha you name it and yes they hate my krk 10 subwoofer ;)

[kenn409]

this is new one Akai APC40 and Ni Maschine..nice pattern dude...Cheers...

[DJChaosnl]

Nice track! You are right about the vocals. Like them also!

[kaijenkinsmusic]

HEY THROW HIS TAYLOR UP

[assais]

hey man which monitor speakers do you recommend? i see you have a rookit. are the m-audio av-40 any good or should i go with better ones?

[SuicideServer]

@assais

Personally i would always buy the krk´s again, they are quite good for what you pay and i love the style. Also Genelecs are pretty cool, this is what we use at work.

Cheers

[sammarshalluk]

@SuicideServer Krk's are deffinately suited to more bass orientated music :D

[PvPene]

Ah, I hear my favorite ABL2 preset pattern playing.

[SuicideServer]

@PvPene

im a lazy bitch sometime ;)

[SuicideServer]

@PvPene

Seems like we have the same favorite preset pattern ;)

[LeBuav]

Looking to buy either an APC40 or a maschine, undecided on which I want, any recommendations?

[SuicideServer]

@LeBuav

I would go for Maschine all the way, in fact the APC40 is already gone but with Maschine im still in Love.

Cheers

[djcube92]

too slowly spin up but middlng

[sublime95]

These two pieces of gear, a mixer, and a turntable is all I want :[[[

[pressure609]

the vocals made me blow a load in my pants. fkn sweet build!

[MrUninstyle]

хуета

[DjAotaka]

Where can we download the vocals??

[SuicideServer]

@DjAotaka

let me see, i should still have them. Google for Mina Fedora, she probably has some more to share.

Cheers

[tyresmoke]

does this record into abelton. what i mean is you've loaded stuff up in abelton to play this. but this version that you play. does it get recorded in the linear style as a track?

[jazzycdobregon]

super nice! i played along!

[djbrandonr]

nice!

[colyheaven]

great stuff! the build-up souds just right! I was wondering if you could help me with this: how did you use maschine in ableton? thanks!

[SuicideServer]

@colyheaven

No Problem, i only use Maschine as a plugin in Ableton and use the Sequencer of Maschine for Drums and FX, thats pretty much it and yeah dont forget to add some spicy fx on top ;)

Cheers

[maschineplus]

I like it need to get that akai bless you lol

[SuicideServer]

@maschineplus

get both and you will be blessed even more ;)

[Dozerrox]

Wow! Very jealous. The two bits of gear that I drool over most and I don't have either :P.

[SuicideServer]

@Dozerrox

i can understand that ;) but i think only Maschine will be there in a few years....

[N3H3C]

This should be called New Acid House

[6t9nez]

I was in the zone till the maschines hi hat/cymbal came in at 2:56. Other than that I would spin this in my set.........DOPE!

[lifeatlast26]

hey im trying to get the same setup as you how can i connect it to my pc and laptop? usb? i know its a retarded question but i need something that will allow me to connect these 2 and a midi keyboard as well. im custom building my pc so should i make more usb slots or just get an external interface? thanks

[StansSquare]

TOY

[schmitty007]

Great jam!

[IIlIIIl]

can you directly control massive with the apc40?? i mean the sound goggles and stuff..?? great vid.

[princesskellysue]

awesome remix!

[plasmaforce11]

jeez, if you did a scratch dub with Traktor somehow eh?:P

[vjmileend]

I love your next level beats

[SuicideServer]

@Nathan797979

because the dont ;) Maschine is a world class beatbox and the APC40 is awesome when it comes to control Ableton Live 8, where my plugins are and also a lot of FX is going on. The combo is just kick ass.

Cheers

[Splenken]

@SuicideServer yep greats reply hahaha by they way u got everything i want lol !!! nice setup buddy :)

[mrelectro1985]

very nice ma man

[SyntheticDesignMusic]

hey i am thinking about getting some new monitors i create house and progrersive house would the rokits 8 be ok for a small room or would i want like yamhas or makies?

[SuicideServer]

@SyntheticDesignMusic

For a small room you can also get the Rokit 5, i own them for more then 1,5 year and thy still amaze me, especially when you pair them with the killer 10 inch sub ;)

[ruffnutts1]

Dont know what to get NI Maschine or Akai APC40 Grrrrrrrr

[ofizzie]

so im running traktor scratch pro with my vinyl setup..

what would you recommend.. ?  ...the maschine or apc40 ???

[SuicideServer]

@ofizzie

I would say that depends on what you want to achieve. If you are working sample based then go for the APC40 but if you want to make a beat on the fly then take a closer look at machine. You could also sell you scratch and get both ;)

Cheers

[SuicideServer]

@ofizzie

Maschine and Traktor are pretty sweet together, i just currently bought the X1 and Traktor Pro and i love it :)

[atabeylive]

Yes but for me the rokits have to much bass it is not as flat frequency as the genelec or the mackie mr5 but I am not saying that the rokits are bad just for my taste I preferred the genelecs

[hilato]

yes those are the rokits, but I prefer the Genelec 8020B

[Pyromancer55]

@hilato genelecs are beautiful speakers, but as my music tech teacher pointed out to me was that they sound just too good! so no matter what you put through them it almost immediately sounds good so i would prefer a mediocre set of speakers and work at getting the sound to sound amazing on them then move it onto a set of genelecs. not that i could afford genelecs ;)

[hilato]

@Pyromancer55 Yes but like I said the rokits are good monitors but they move towards the low frequencies side, and the genelecs don't have those problem they are flat frequencies, so you hear all the mistakes on your tracks, its like the Mackie MR5 they are kind of like the Genelecs but they tend to go on the high frequencies, so as to my preference the genelecs for me are the most flat frequencies monitors in the business. This is from my experiences also from listening to other monitors.

[Pyromancer55]

@hilato i personally need to start looking at loads of monitors and things. i've only been making music for a little while and still need to do a lot of stuff on the tech side! you obviously know a lot more about the speakers than i do. i'm sorta trying to pick it all up and it will soon come ;) but i like your ideas!

[hilato]

@Pyromancer55 It is never to late to start, especially when your young, I started with reason 1.0 the first reason, then acid, then logic, and now I am stuck with ableton live. I at first was in your spot, I would make a track and it would sound horrible with my stereo, then I started to learn on my own about sound, frequencies, as of now I am trying to learn about mastering which is a whole new world, beside producing. But tutorials and lots of time behind the computer.

[Pyromancer55]

@hilato I've been writing now for a couple of years now but i've only really started to make music that i'm happy with recently! but i need to just get myself a ministudio where i can write a lot easier and things. i'm running off ableton live, and have done for a while. i'm happy with it but i'm ready to move onto some other programs for a new experience! maybe using ableton to make a couple of things up. but i don't particularly need it anymore.

[plasmaforce11]

very nice ACieeD! =) Bo0M!

[frosch1404]

Sers. Also geiler Sound erstmal-gefällt mir gut-Respekt.

Weißt du zufällig ob man das akai apc40 auch an logic hängen kann?! also kompatibel damit ist wie mit apelton?

Steh so zwischen drin zwischen maschine u akai apc 40. Logic Studio 9 hab ich ja schon....

Wäre über ne antwort sehr dankbar.

Weiter so-blessing

[siggiesandoz]

neue soundkarte brauchste ;o)

[mineheadX1]

are the APC's mainly for live performances or are they useful for recording ? other than just recording jams...I've got a Maschine, and I wan to make sure I'm not missing out on somethings tha's really useful...can Maschine's APC mode do everything that an APC does ?

[Bluesage2009]

Your using a ride cymbal as a hat... ride cymbals are only effective when dropped in triple time over a 150bmp tempo...... they are mean't to add drive. It is far to prominent in the mix.

The clacky percussion is very annoying. The 303 lead is nice.

[Gravelus]

does maschine sync up with ableton? i've been using ableton for drums, but lately i thought of using a drum machine and syncing it to ableton.

[deejaykharma]

tic tic, ta ta ta ta TA.

zzZZZ

[natenevercrashes]

sick! btw, are those rokit 5 speakers that you have there? i was thinking of getting a pair of those, would you recommend it? i'm interested in making this kind of music too.

[SuicideServer]

Hey Nate,

you cant go wrong with the rokit 5´s, they really sound pretty crisp and are nice for mixdowns, especially together with the sub 10.

Cheers

[mechanicalchris3]

Good Jam but stupid video title. Maschine and APC are completely different. Furthermore, while controlling clips in Ableton, we can't really see how much you actually did or didn't affect the music. An Ableton clip can be an entrire song while with Maschine you would build the song live, note by note.

[nindes]

acciiiiiiiiiiiiiidd

[Lovat2]

Schöner deep Flow - weitermachen! :-)

[djvaleriev]

yeah

[LATRONNIK]

Hi, erstmal geiles set! aber ich hab mal eine frage O: wie kann man mit so einer guten ton und bild quallität sets aufnehmen? wenn ich mal versuche ein set aufzunehmen kommt meistens nur eine sehr schlechte tonspur dabei raus. dabei ist egal ob ich es mit der cam aufnehme oder ob ich den mikrofon input am pc nehme..

[SuicideServer]

Hey Latronnik,

der trick ist eigentlich nur den sound intern von Ableton zum recording tool zu leiten. Hier am mac geht das ganz einfach mit soundflowers und quicktime pro 7.

Cheers

[LATRONNIK]

@SuicideServer ok, danke! ^^

[djrosalux]

great jam! Convinced me to buy APC40 also! Thanks

[MEXperiment]

hallo

du scheinst die sache im griff zu haben^^

hab mir kürzlich eine maschine gekauft und macht wirklich spass damit.

hab da mal ein paar fragen:

wie gehst du da genau vor wenn du deine beats machst? (sry bin noch anfänger xD)

wie ich sehe hast du auch kore2.. ist das eine gute ergänzung zu maschine? und läuft alles von NI gut mit ableton8 zusammen? oder ist mit ableton der apc40 pflicht?

sorry hab da echt nicht viel ahnung^^ aber danke schon mal im voraus...

greez mex

[SuicideServer]

Hey mex,

spar Dir am besten den Kore2 und hol Dir dafür die APC40, so haste direkten Zugriff auf Ableton 8 und gleichzeitig kannst mit Maschine dazuballern *g* Mehr brauchst eigentlich nicht um für ein paar Jahre beschäftigt zu sein. Wäre da nicht diese gier nach neuem gear ;) Beats mach ich fast nur mit Maschine und falls ich nen Track arrangier sample ich einfach die einzelnen Instrumente und arrangier die dann.

Cheers

[MEXperiment]

ok vielen dank:)

[CannabisPinkyBrain]

hey ho

könnteste mir vlt auch mal das live set zukommen lassen? hab mit auch das Apc40 zugelegt finde deinen track echt gut wie gesagt tempo könnte noch nen bissel

kannst du mir evtl sagen welche effecte du genommen hast grooven nämlich ordentlich

hast du eigene audio spuren genommen oder einfach iwelche sample und effect reingehaun kann es nich identifizieren!

weiter so !top!

[SuicideServer]

Hey CPB,

ich hab gerade mal geschaut, aber die Session hab ich leider nicht mehr drauf. Mal schaun ob ich sie aufm backup finde. Der Track wurde komplett mit Ableton Drummachines gebastelt und die synth sounds sind alle von Massive und Phoscyon. Das Delay war das groove template von den simple delays. Wenn ichs finde schick ich den Track.

Cheers

[freepartysoundsystem]

acid massive \m/

[nmkgsxr]

Very nice man !

[icedout2oo7]

so hwo`s actaully the winner between those 2 ?

[SuicideServer]

i love them both to be honest and i wouldn´t want to miss either one so im sorry there is no clear winner ;)

Cheers

[GregorEicher]

ich finde nur den reverb auf der BD zu arg

[SuicideServer]

Hey Gregor,

ja da haste Recht. Ist zwar kein Reverb, aber das Decay der 808 BD ist doch ein wenig heftig. Könnt mir auch in den Arsch beissen das ich den Track nicht ein weniger schneller aufgenommen hab.

Cheers

[GregorEicher]

Haste den denn nichtmehr als Projekt file?? ...wär schade, ist sonst echt n sehr in sich stimmiger track, grooved auch schön... Nette software haste da im hintergrund :D ...Original software ist doch einfach das tollste, schöne kartons, läuft stabil, moralisch korrekt hehe...sag mal, meinst du die APC40 lohnt sich, wenn man fast ausschließlich produziert und ab und an live spielt? also bringen dir die ganzen potis und fader beim producen was, was launchpad ja nicht hat..überlege ob kaufe

[SuicideServer]

Hey Gregor,

irgendwo hab ich das Project garantiert noch, kannst gern nen remix machen wenn Du willst ;) Die aPC40 würd ich auf keinen Fall mehr hergeben und ich muss zugeben ich hab die am Anfang schwer unterschätzt. Launchpad ist auc h nett, aber fehlen halt die Fader und Knobs. Kann Dir die APC wirklich ans Herz legen.

Cheers

[GregorEicher]

Ok super danke!

darauf komme ich gerne zurück, aber erst sobald ich den/die/das APC40 habe ;-)

bis denn, greetz..

[homerjayr]

sau sau sau geil!!

schade das man musik nicht f***** kann, ich würds machen bei dem sound ;-)

[SuicideServer]

Alter wie geil, das war wohl wirklich der beste Kommentar ever ;)

Cheers und danke

[johnwally]

sweet track

[BitMuSikBasel]

remember plastikman's "the last track"

[BitMuSikBasel]

nice vocals!

[SuicideServer]

yeah she really has a beautifull voice, check her out on myspace - mina fedora

[brayrouz]

That synth was done with N.I. Massive ya!!! Im an Ableton user and love the old 303 sounds would you recommend massive?? SOUNDS GREAT :)

[SuicideServer]

Hey brayrouz,

Massive really is a great synth and i can definitely recommend it, if you are after the best 303 sounds - definitely check out audiorealisms ABL2.

Cheers

[freedomdancemusic]

Love your kit - me gots da Dance Maschine

[silvision]

wie von dir gewohnt, ein weiters cooles video mit coolem sound :)

cheers

s.

ps: wer hat eigentlich den maschine contest gewonnen?

[SuicideServer]

Hey silvison,

danke für die Blumen. Den Slam hat noch keiner gewonnen, da wir ihn leider auf nächstes Jahr März verschieben mussten. Wäre also noch Platz für Dich ;)

Cheers

[skylervee]

i have the same set up by the way where are you located?

[SuicideServer]

sounds like you have some good taste :) im located in Munich Germany

Cheers

[CoffeeNCigarettez]

when i saw live / kore / reaktor, the controllers krk monitors... i really expected something, my girlfriend does better with my mums keyboard and iam not joking man

[SuicideServer]

indeed your girlfried does it really good, man if only you could have told me earlier, i could already be right up there with the gods of techno :)

Cheers

[GeminiAmbience]

I love the vocal samples...where did you get them? Is it a specific vocalist's release or just stuff you've sampled from other songs? Either way, I like the energy you're building in this demo...a little slow for my taste, but still very well mixed!

[SuicideServer]

Hey Gemini,

the vocal sample is from an artists called Mina Fedora, which i found on myspace. She really has a beautifull voice and yes it is too slow, should do the next track while im sober ;)

Cheers my friend

[chelskisw6]

Sweet!

[rianmil04]

Mi piace!!!

[sabotage1111]

good stuff

simple but tastefull

less is more

[VJFranzK]

nice beats.

you are a lucky guy ;-) the best of both worlds there.

I'm trying to decide WHICH?

[SuicideServer]

Hey Franz,

they are both great tools. If you like more a dj like approach to start samples and want to get more control over Ableton - the APC40 is fine. If you want produce beatz fast and want complete control over your music, like changing sequences on the fly - then get maschine. i personally prefer Maschine but the combination of both is pretty sweet ;)

Cheers

[angelotax]

Hi Suicide,

In this case you are playing maschine patterns trough the APC40 or you are using some ableton library plugins for the drums and percussions parts?

Again, superb feeling and performing.

[SuicideServer]

Hey angelotax,

i sampled some drums from maschine and used them as clips in Ableton, i do pretty much all of my drum works with maschine as im really used to the mpc style sequencing, as a long time MPC User. I use the APC40 mostly as the center of my setup but only to plug maschine into ableton and add some more fx to maschine on the fly.

Cheers

[angelotax]

Hey Bud,

Ableton, maschine, and softsynts are running all on the same computer ?

[SuicideServer]

Yep, and its not a problem, i hit around 40 % CPU on an average, and i only use a core2duo with 2,4 GHz, so there should be no problems.

[djoedla]

*enjoying it to the max* =)

5*

xxx

L

[TheSSSailingSong]

I like the beat!  I cant wait for mine. For some reason, it's taken almost 6 weeks and still, I havent gotten word from UPS. Kindof pissed...

NMW

[SuicideServer]

I know exactly how you feel, Akai screwed up as always with availabilitie of this new toy.

[malve3lxr]

Hi man, pretty APC40... enjoy!!!

[SuicideServer]

Thanks i will, tonight will be the first gig with the APC40 only, cause im a lazy bitch ;)

[hetakie]

he man, nice work.

can u tell me how u record your live jam in ableton live?

i dunt understand that. thanks

bye

[SuicideServer]

Hey hetakie,

for the videos i record them directyl with the video with quicktime pro on a mac. But in Ableton you can record a jam just by clicking the record button and then record midi and audio or send midi to audio tracks.

Cheers

[hetakie]

sorry for all my questions but when i record in ableton it doesn't record the things i play on my maschine. only when i record it in maschine. i don't understand how u can play live en record it, i hope u can help me.

thanks

[SuicideServer]

hey now i understand what you mean. You have to rout the track which contains maschine to an audio track in ableton and then record the stuff from maschine as audio for now.

[hetakie]

he, my last question is how do u rout maschine to an audio track? (i'm new with ableton) and do you know if this also works in logic pro 8?

thanks a lot for helping.

cheers

[SuicideServer]

Ok lets say you have maschine on channel 3 (track 3), now create an empty audio track on channel 4 (track 4), then in channel 3 at the io panel, where it says "Audio to" you select channel 4 which is our empty audio track. Now arm channel 4 press record and jam along.

Cheers

[EngongHitekKnowLogy]

Wonderful job, man.

I was thinking which one do I need to buy for my worx?

Answer: Both!!!!

Ps: keep it working, that's dope!

[SuicideServer]

Haha,

thanks and indeed this combo is pretty sweet :)

Cheers

[veiss8801]

hahaha is that a zenobyte!? from hellraiser

[SuicideServer]

Yup thats my little friend Pinhead :)

[pace033]

hey bro,got a ques for ya. what can the apc40 do for me that I cant already do with my mpk49? i can already scroll up & down, side to side, and so on. Is it really worth the cash, and why? Thanks, cuz after buying the NI Maschine, Im strapped for cash.

[SuicideServer]

Hey pace,

the difference to your mpk49 is mainly the visual feedback you get while turning the knobs and of course the direct access to the clip matrix. But if your fine with your MPK49 i wouldnt upgrade. Also Maschine is still way better ;)

Cheers

[thevco]

good stuff brother

[MikeyWalken]

yeah bwoy! This video is heavy, well done. I am def getting me a apc40 after this, looks wicked for live performance then gunna stick a micron in the mix also for some extra fun

[SuicideServer]

You gonna love it ;)

[RRKS69]

Jay,

You inspired me brotha.

I've got a new track I will be posting soon.

Cheers

[SuicideServer]

Hey Rick, cant wait for the new track, hope you gonna use that shiny new APC ;)

Cheers

[eeksta27]

What reverb did you use on this track?

[SuicideServer]

Hey eeksta,

the reverb is calles "Large Factory" from Ableton Live 8. I love it :)

Cheers

[Mill15634]

Sach mal dir liegt wohl jedes Gerät wie? Ich müh mich voll ab um mit einem einzigen konfirm zu werden und du jede woche was neues, kannst mir sagen wie das geht ,möchte das auch können. Woher haste die Frauenstimme gesampelt von Prodigy ????Viel Spass noch mit allen Maschinen. Cheers der Mill noch immer übend ;-)

P.s.: Wieder mal geiler track 5 stars

[SuicideServer]

Haha,

frag lieber nicht. Das schlimme ist, das geht jetzt schon seit 15 Jahren so. Jeder Cent wird in Hardware gesteckt, aber ich glaub so langsam bin ich am Ziel was mein Setup betrifft.

Cheers

[Mill15634]

Da hab ich ja noch 15 Jahre vor mir :-) mist

[eeksta27]

Well 1st of all that sounds nothing like the prodigy!!

Anyways that is a wicked track,nice and layed back,I like how you've done that,

Acid rules!!

Nice work!!

[friendlyflavour]

Fett!! mein erstes Maschine Video ist jetzt auch On!!

lg

[19clab79]

Saubär, ah sauber mein ich natürlich ;-)

Grüße vom Seppl

[metaldog01]

Curious as to what was doing what. All the beats are on Maschine and then being manipulated in LIVE by the APC? Or is the MAschine doing its own thing?

Thanks Like the track!

[SuicideServer]

Hey Dog,

the bassdrum, hihats and snares are from Abletons Drummachines, Percussions and Ride is from Maschine and the 303 is ABL2 from Audiorealism.

Cheers

[NCWTWENTY3]

Sweet tunes as usual....

[SuicideServer]

Thank you sir :)

[Lotuz2007]

It seems you're already very comfortable with the APC40. Looks like a must if you're running Ableton Live. Controllers like Maschine's and the APC40 are the future.

Now if you only could make dope Hip Hop beats. lol

[pace033]

I agree, they are the future. On the other hand, I say KEEP IT ACID.

[SuicideServer]

Oh yes, im already possesed by the 303 for 15 years now and i still love it ;)

Cheers

[Rolandtje]

Verry nice track Sounds a lot like The prodigy keep up the good work .

5 Stars the maximum

[ProjektU9]

JoHo...ERSTER ^^

Cooler Track...werd dir mal 5 sterne geben.

Die Apc müsste ich mir auch mal zu legen.

Ableton hab ich ja eh auch ^^

Aber ich hab im momment keinen platz ..es sei ich kauf mir noch 3 Meter L Form zum aufstellen.

Dazu noch einen 2ten sitzplatz, und nen Büro sessel mit Rollen ^^ ...aber während ich das hier schreibe...5* sind eigentlich noch etwas wenig...geht aber leider nicht mehr.

ps. Deine Kore2 packung ^^ Werbung...hahahaha

gruss U9 aka andy