Libya: Popular Democracy Or Police State?

[DarkprinX2500]

i've had enough of this sickman propaganda vids..

RIP Col. Muammar Muhammad Abu Minyar Al Gaddafi

Lion of the Green Revolution

We must Resurrect the Jamahiriya

[amarsta]

Why are there no translations in this video? We would like to hear what the people themselves are saying.

[davisoneill]

This film is very typical British propaganda. Anything that doesnt look exactly like the way the British ruling class does things is automatically made fun of and subjected to derision. Sad that the British Working Class, the vast majority of British people, can't see through the lies that their tormenters feed them with.

[ahamatmabrahman]

@davisoneill Glad you said that I suddenly realized this when the video actually played , most of the videos I want to watch are not working. I'm British Here's a video for you just to prove that some of us keep our ear to the ground - courts afraid of us now and lawful court - david noakes interview edge TV is also worthwhile Best wishes

[davisoneill]

Libya was a paradice - until the Nato Nazi oil pirates decided to steal Libya's oil.

[EmpireoftheCitycom]

What a bunch of ignorant rednecks half-breeds. No wonder the world is so messed up with unicellular brain capacities like you folks talking about stuff you know nothing about. Get an education. The only conversations you know how to make are based on what you either read in sheeple newspapers or brainwash Television. You're a waste of space!

[hart1918]

The Libyan people continue to resist NATO aggression! Plenty of Libyans are more than prepared to fight to defend the gains of the Jamahiriya. Free housing, free education, and a full share in oil revenues. Victory to Gaddafi!

[bittercottoncandy]

@hart1918 You forgot to add free assassinations, free nepotism, free police abuse, free suppression of civil rights. Yay Gaddafi

[anonymouseponymous]

@hart1918 really? ok card carrying "socialist." name ONE Libyan person fighting against NATO "aggression." the pro-G fighters don't count. no way you know ONE Libyan. don't speak for people, and don't speak on something you don't know crap about. your people are not dying, being raped, and fleeing for their lives. go there and fight for him and see how you feel when he orders you to rape, kidnap, and terrorize Libyans. Libya al hurra!

[wrhysg61]

wtf, they rarely translate the arabic? lol

[nema1218]

Police state,death to Gaddafi and his sons.

[winglibato]

when gadhafi makes mistakes it means he makes mistake--when a democratic leader makes mistakes it means the people makes mistake bcoz he is saying he is doing it for the interest of the poeple....hehe

[Scorpitarios]

Sorry, but you seem to be an idiot. I haven't supported Gaddafi ANYWHERE. The only thing I did was saying that the jamahiriya system is basically democratic, if it had the chance to work as intended, and it could only do so if Gaddafi and the revolutionary command council is gone. We see in the liberated parts of Libya that the jamahiriya system is democratic since desicions are made in these people's congresses. If you aren't even capable of understanding that, then don't respond to me.

[starlight76able]

@Scorpitarios Oh shut up.

[ramzi45]

@fabrizioorbezo

go fuck yourself, have you seen what have he done to his ppl lately, maybe better if you do the samething on latin america

[graba2111]

ادفنوا جماهيرته فى الزبالات وافتحوا منظمات المجتمع المدنى واول عمل تفعلوه

هو الاهتمام بنظافة طرابلس وتبليطها من يصدق ان مثل ليبيا ارض النفط والمازوط لاتجد شارع مبلط الاطريقه الى باب العزيزيه وما قصته مع جمع الاوساخ التى اكوامها تعلوا السماءو

[graba2111]

الجامعات هى مؤسسات مدنيه وهناك يلتقى نخب المجتمع المدنى كيف حولها لجانه المخانيث الى

الى مراكز اشبه بمحاحكم التفتيش فى اسبانيا وعندما تدخل جامعاته المزربه كانك فى حالة احكام عرفيه ولجانه المخانيث

يطبقون سلطة الشعب اهكذا خيل ان تقع البشريه بايدى اراذل القوم

[Noodles37UK]

Lockerbie was 1988, stupid narrator!

[nickmabe]

Evacuation service from from Libya. Omnis - Hereford UK based security company is operating a service in Libya. Contact +44 7970 861543.

[CreoleCommando]

What a load of Arab bullshit! these ppl are still in the middle ages.

[Noodles37UK]

@CreoleCommando Hopefully not for much longer.

[Scorpitarios]

Libya has quite an interesting political system. It's some kind of a super democracy.

[ramzi45]

@Scorpitarios

no it is not

[Scorpitarios]

@ramzi45 But if the jamahiriya system is not a democracy, what is it then? The swiss Landsgemeinde is exactly like the people's congresses. The people makes decisions directly without a representative parlament. I think that the major obstacle for Libya to be a true democracy is Gaddafi and the revolutionary command council, which act in a dictatorial manner. Libya needs to get rid of the dictatorial part of the goverment, so that the democratic part can finally function as intended.

[ramzi45]

@Scorpitarios

Well Libya isn't a democracy (in terms of human rights and N korea is worst and Libya is before it), what can the ppl do tell me, what he talks about the direct democracy is that (he does what he wants) while other tyrants manupilate/change the law to get what they want, there is no democratic part on Libyas regime (if so prove it to me)

demo in libya just the same as NDP party in egypt and same as iranian elections

shame on you to support a dictator

go fuck ur self

[taroil]

F Gadaffi, the pervert

[lunnaaify]

y a t il des opposants à Gaddafi ? sils existent pourquoi on ne les entend pas?

[dawebni]

@lunnaaify ils sont à londres on les entend peu en France mais ils sont là

[bugsz1]

@joeschmojo The USA was created to secure our rights and liberties. We owe nothing to the State. Of course Libya has horrible human rights abuses. Democracy would be better, but why not think beyond that. True freedom. This issue is spreading throughout the world and will be at our doorstep very soon. 1 in every 32 adults in the US are in the prison system. 95% of them are non violent offenders. Not a police state? If you say so. I think different. Sorry if I offended you somehow. Peace.

[taroil]

Police state with a psychopath as a leader

[nookimusic]

There is no one better system than another. Every system we have created on this tiny planet is corrupt, because we as people are corrupt. Once we can detach ourselves from greed, then we can begin to work towards an enlightened system of government.

[bugsz1]

@joeschmojo It's funny you say that. Because if you had taken two minutes to research what I have said many times over...WE are in complete agreement.

[Freenorthafrica]

Kalb

[LibyaAngel]

libya is a police state where the security services operate with impunity and political opposition is not allowed dictator gaddafi rules the country with iron and fire

[1stAma]

@LibyaAngel It's awesome to read such comments today!

It's like looking at history and yes you're right!

[MyStateKosova]

/watch?v=gZ-gw4AWpW4

Watch now the short History

[bugsz1]

Democracy is MOB rule. Nothing more and nothing less. You wanna be ruled by a mob? Carefull what you wish for, it may come true.

[RPM1978]

@bugsz1 Republic is better than Democracy

[jigalibya]

حي علي امه الروج

من هضوما

وشنو في بزبط

فهمونا يهوه

شنو يزبرو الزوامل هديما عندنا

[abdellahaouni]

fuck u libya

[cockpit777]

Libya is a Rogue State ! No human rights there !

Garbage like Ghaddafi should get disposed on the waste disposal finally !

[zenaib4u]

i love libya

[adispain]

zabei america

[oct1984]

you have to understand why arabs in dire need of leadership ,you can see a absent minded arabs that would like to remain in those primitive status, is also illiteracy problem to be educated in just rights.

[DIJV79]

Democracy is a fraud just look at the U.S and Israel and the moral deterioration of the West in general.

[tnunes23]

why doesnt they take over israel

[00samarkand00]

At least those "loyal followers" aren't shouting "Allahu akbar Death to America!" LOL

[tnuocca7]

they are animal..

They dont need democracy..

[ln102ly]

@tnuocca7 R U FUCKING ISRAILY FUCK U PITCH

[marksaltzer]

This would have been far more informative and transparent with the addition of subtitles. Lacking this transparency we can only rely on the journalists point of view and the footage that depicts their version of Libya.

[interfc118]

I remember ths a long time ago around 12 years back. we drove to tunisia then took a plain from there

[Ahmidsviper]

thank god i dont live in libya, even though am a libyan

[7ezoom2]

fuck it im not going back there.

khalid

[ln102ly]

@7ezoom2 DID THEY FUCK U THERE SO U R NOT GOING BACK PITCH

[Kassambre]

"Nous considérons nous donc que la démocratie directe libyenne, cest lexpérience pilote de la démocratie directe au 20e siècle. Cest un laboratoire politique, dans lequel tout ceux qui sintéressent à la démocratie directe, que ce soit comme chercheurs ou comme acteurs politiques peuvent prendre de linspiration et peuvent reprendre des exemples."

Luc MICHEL Fondateur du Mouvement Européen pour la Démocratie Directe le 1 mars 2007.

[Kassambre]

"La 2e expérience cest celle de Jamahiriya libyenne, dont nous sommes des partisans et des défenseurs.

Mais, nous navons pas une vision naïve de la démocratie directe libyenne.

Cest un système nouveau, et comme toute chose nouvelle il ya parfois des expériences sur lesquelles il faudra revenir, et dautres part il ya des spécificités qui sont liées à la société libyenne elle-même, et quil serait très difficilement applicable en Europe."

Luc Michel 1 mars 2007

[Lolastars21]

I wonder what incentive was given to his "supporters" for their avid chanting and admiration

[EmmValette]

I suggest the Romanian nurses to be asked this question freely, and not under totures like when they were jailed.

I'm convinced that state violence cannot lead to a peaceful world.

[democratiedirect1789]

VIVA KADDHAFI

[Libya4Libyans]

Qaddafi is the card the the west use to control Libya the brought Qaddafi and put him in power just like they give Saddam tools needed to control Iraq so later they can take the Oil and Iraqi land.

The Jews world wide are responsible for all wars. WW I, WW II and the coming WW III.

May Allah save the Humanity from them ( Illuminati ) Jews.

[Libya4Libyans]

Fuck Qaddafi but he didn't do lockerbie bombing the CIA, MI6 and the Israeli Mossad intelligent service are behind it just like 9/11 and 7/7...........

[14mm2]

correct

[ayoubs85]

The journalist accomplished what us viewers needed to witness. Clearly, Libya is a rogue state, where journalist must be directed to "facinating" sites like steel mills and harbors. Gadaffi will not allow journalists to freely roam the country as they should. The people there are so frightened for their lives that they would not dare to speak there minds. For what purpose would the people of libya show such high levels of support....education, wealth, freedom, health....haha, my ass.

[XKURDISTAN]

hallo from Kurdistan

live long Gaddafi

live long Libya

live long Kurdistan

[nicola3000]

hey journeyman,

you better get subtitles for the arabic spoken parts!

[antlerbaby]

lol. I wish the whole world was like this.

[14mm2]

like fuckin libya?

[ReligionlSmanmade]

What a crook

[polygamous1]

2 TO BLAME EGYOT ATTACK N TAKE OVER THE ENTIRE MIDDLE EAST DOGUMENTED EVIDENCE thE SKIPPER OF THE LIBERTY TALKING THE PHOTOS OF THE BADLY DAMAGED LIBERTY WITH A TORPETO HOLE

LBJ colluded with israel during the 67 war LBJ even ordered the fleet in the med to recall the wings saying i wnt that God dam ship to the bottom of the sea american demogracy? who u kidding? that was years ago when emericans run america who runs america now? a gang of thugs

[kavevi]

no political parties? this is the most strange leadership under the sun! and the people appear to be totally brainwashed.

[polygamous1]

have a better system in the usa? am not talking about when your constitution was in force n you had great leaders like A. Lincon then yes of course, BUT now with AIPEC dictading who u r next puppet president will be, an X us military INTELLIGENCE OFFICER SAID ON THE BBC we shot the iranian passenger plane down hopping to intice the iranians to retaliate to have the excuse to bomb n destroy them REMEBER THAT ISRAELI ATTACK ON THE US LIBERTY 34 US SAIPORS DIED 180 INJURED

[kavevi]

am not american and i dont support their invasions on foreign teritory

[usergently]

500 km in 3 hours?

[Peter42y]

Good point. 500 km in 3 hours?And the roads were no exactly highways lol.

[AlixLwanga]

I know this is an old documentary and does not nessecarily reflect recent events i.e., Italie's promise, but it was funny how board the journalist was. I am just wondering why they didn't bother to translate what the people said. Anyways, was worth watching for the last line.

[savavrbas]

Jonathan Holmes Foreign Correspondent and The 7.30 Report, and of Channel Ten's short-lived current affairs program Public Eye. Since 1993 he's been more frequently an on-air reporter for Foreign Correspondent and 4 Corners. He's been a nominee for a Walkley Award four times - though never a winner - WHEN YOU LIE, YOU CAN'T WIN. YOU ARE EMBARASMENT TO AUSTRALIA, GO BACK TO BRITAN.

[savavrbas]

"You left Libya like MOST visitors without regret"

You are nothing but ABC MEDIA WATCH ( 10 MINUTE SHOW) Biggest ARSEHOLE which Australia have. I never come across something like this, where Journalist cant complete one sentence without criticizing you HOST. Libyan children can play on the streets till midnight, and where you live , they can't because Australia is full of pedophiles, protected by Catholic church. WATCH out , because there is plenty of Arabs and Muslims in Australia.

[Dabayl]

kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk, Funny Libiyans.. They are insulting our inteligence> no Body can raise a finger against Qadafi. He is like their God.

[Hadoo87]

لا حوله ولا قوة إلا بالله العلى العظيم.... حاله تبكى, البلاد على يد العفريت المعمر , ربى يسخطك!!!

[TierraCorta]

give the bad old man Qadaffi a chance. He is trying to change for the sake of his people and country. Let wish him luck and for the best. It is not only democracy that makes a country great.

[hassanrazi19]

poor libyan poeple they can not speak what is going on in libya in front of camera......

Kadafi is controling libya and the libyan people, he can do what ever he want and the mutmarat is a big drama (every libyan has the right to decide abt himself) shittt big drama.... they cant even even breath without his permission.......

[fefeone]

بالعربى خوذه فى قردلك ياقذافى ياولد القحبة

[fefeone]

FUCK YOU YA-GADDAFI

[tubejthompson]

I am amazed at this journalist smartness that it took him only few days to understand exactly what is going on. ....I liked the comment "trying to remove sanctions" when the scene is a guy picking his nose.

[m6a2kh2]

if you hate Gaddafi dont generalize your opinion, because the libyans like him. and please respecct others, dont insult who disagree with you this means you are nazi

[forcetoregister]

It is a police state ruled by mentally ill fascist named Gaddafi.

[Matanjun]

American Claim It Democracy Country But It Has Only Two Political Party. That Not Democracy At All.Why Don't It Three Or Five Political Party That Democracy.

[abdo4ever1985]

بهى ماشاء الله

[shareef2000]

لعنة الله على مسيلمه العصر القذافى الحقير الدجال،واعوانه البصاصه الذين باعوا بلادهم وشرفهم وكرامتهم من اجل المال،بعتوا دينكم بدنيا غيركم،ولكن الله يمهل ولا يهمل ،وحسابكم سيكون عسير ، يا كلاب ، تفوووووووووووووووووه عليكم.

[ktubeaz]

Police State. Nothing short of that.

[lovly23libya]

so did u like it ar the end

والله الشريط مافيه ماتفهم اهو اى حاجة وخلاص

لكن ماشاء الله عليه القائد ربى يخليله صحته زى الوردة مابينهم

[shareef2000]

ورده فى عينك ، قالت ورده ،كان عاجبك القذافى برى للحرس متاعه ،تو يبسطك وبعدين يعطيك لى جماعته يسهروا بيك انتى واللى زيك ليالى حمره وحشيش وسكير ،وبعدين يا جاهله مفروض تكتبى lovely موش زى ما كتبتى انتى ياللاّ،يعطيك دعوه .

[lovly23libya]

shareef 2000

what bad comment you wrote for me at least respect me as femal,i didnot say to you any wrong, you use bad words in general mean you bad we here to discusse and just write wat i saw,and am free to wrote myname as i like,you will teach me how to wrote good english,,,

[shareef2000]

I`m very bad more than you can imagine with people who loves this dictator like you he is very bad governor ..damn

[n0gar]

How come the non-mulatto types are doing manual labor?

[oopure00]

HAHAHHA this video is just full of what gaddafi wants people to believe, its nothing like reality.

[DesiRambo]

Libya rocks

[jmc912]

i love libya

[djnobel]

Where the fuck is the translations?

[hardwood007]

libya says no to nuclear bombs. libya has no homeless people from my understanding. long live libya and president ghadaffi...forward the united states of africa!!!!!

[europe2madrid]

no doubt it's last chance to see ancient and stone age ?! great jamheria of course

[europe2madrid]

no doubt it's last chance to see ancient and stone age ?! great jamheria of course

[plasmahanzo]

I am Libyan and I feel ashamed for what I saw in this video :(

[shareef2000]

yes ur right i`m a greef with u bro

[norcalusa]

fuck libya and qadhafi. hes a bitch dictator who should be killed by his people.

[salehkb]

fuck u as well asshole

[sargingbanana]

i agree.

[sadfad2008]

fuck u from porder of ras gader to porder of alsalom fuck any body like u ,bitch

[ddasdfed]

don matter if he's a diktator or not bro...he's like saddam n they both got the currage to fuck in america's face... das all i love bout em though

[sargingbanana]

they only do that to get your attention.

[4Libya]

offcourse Police State

[araber98]

Qadafi he is big diktator

[gamoodia1]

libya is the best

no doubt about tat

[sirbata]

NUKE Libiya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[transwarp101]

I got a better idea, tell your mum to go to Libya and she can sink it off the map.

[yuseffonte2008]

before you nuke libya try and read moor about history and that is how you spell LIBYA,dumb ass

[indulf]

Major Charles McKie of the US Defence Intelligence Agency, while in Lebanon, reportedly discovered a CIA team who were working with Manzur El-Khassar , an alleged Syrian drug dealer. Reportedly El-Khassar was friends with Lt. Col. Oliver North who reportedly was involved with trafficking in drugs and guns. Reportedly Major Charles McKee was going to act as a whistleblower, but he was killed in the 1988 Lockerbie Bombing.

[indulf]

An internal investigation by Pan Am is believed to have found that the bomb planted on Flight 103 was designed to kill McKee and his team. According to the newspaper 'Scotland on Sunday' , 28 August 2005, a former Scottish Police chief has revealed that the Lockerbie evidence was faked by the CIA.