@jesussavesist well I would say it is not Christianity that is those things but sinners who are Christians....everybody brings their own baggage in and Christians are far from perfect....Christianity is not a "moral" code but a body of people who have been redeemed and are members of a covenant community. Thus, it cannot be reduced to another code of morality...if it could Jesus died for nothing.
You seem to have a very informative video on a topic I want to know about. howver since you didn’t have a mic anywhere near your mouth, I can’t hear a word you say.
Thusly, can you post English subtitles or make another video where folks can hear your speech?
@Sogwa hmmm....that's odd...maybe its a setting or something, cause the audio seems to be fine on my playing of the video....I'll look into it....I have started to use some more written material in my more recent videos.
just wondering about the choice to believe, did that come from above? or from within? do not all good things come from above? can any good come out of man?
The choice is really ours...we make that choice yet we must first be enabled through God's calling and regeneration to be able to believe unto eternal life as our fallen and depraved nature does not and will not choose the things of God while still in a fallen state (Rom 8:7-8)
@rustydusty40 not going to disagree with you....I would only add that one of the ways that we love God is by getting to know him and we come to know him through His word. These things are what the Church has found out about God in His word throughout the centuries and hopefully they spur us to see God truly so that we may love Him truly and not accoridng to figments of our own imagination and make an idol of God. To know and love God is the goal!! =)
@prchdaword yes you are right... what i mean by all the bla,, is there is much wind from alot of videos about God. although your video was very helpful... God bless ya brother...
the reason i am even replying to your website is that I wanted to find out your view of God sovereignty -remember this quote "God not only foreknew the fall he even arranged it " correct quote -?
If you're really interested in finding out in what sense God arranged the fall and even arranges sin, you are welcomed to read my studies on the Westminster Confession that are on my website....follow the link off my channel....I deal with the topics....see topics in Chapter 3 and especially chapter 5
where is that quote from? Usually Calvinist do not use the term "foreknew" in the sense that it is being used here (prescient knowledge) thats the only reason I'm asking....
No ....GOD HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FALL OF MAN -prchdword God didnt compel them toward that end - God his holy he cannot contraidict himself He is true to his nature he didnt choose lucifer revolt rebellion against Himself - man fell when they listened to a lie rather than to the word of God in the garden of eden deciding to to take control them selves ...which is the heart of rebellion
We totally agree that God did not tempt or "compel" anybody to do anything...but as God of His own world He had to at least allow it and as being all knowing from all eternity He infallibly new that it would happen and he allowed it to happen...just think of all the evil that befell Joseph....yet what does the SCriptures say, "YOU intended for evil but God intended it for good..." CLEARLY God, in infinite wisdom, is able to use the sin of the creature to bring about his own purposes!
God is immutable and holy he does not change but the serpent is the most subtle beast of the field an arch enemy the test would come to man "yea hath God said.....? satan twisting the word of God to adam .you shall not surely die - waiting to attack -waiting to strike -a masterfully cunning disguise then they lingered they listened to the lie they believed the lie and they acted on the lie and then sin right straight through the heart the fall into darkness and God had nothing to do with it
Great. so you believe God was completely helpless in controlling his own creation....I now see that you are a Deist and have no place in Christian Theism at all.
Thats a pretty terrible way of thinking..."God had nothing to do with it..." after creating his highest creation, God had nothing to do with them....just left them there completely ignorant and oblivious to the fall.....
the problem with your arguments is that they are based on assumptions of what you think Calvinist believe but we do not believe that God is the agent of evil or sin in the world...we do believe that God is able to use the creatures according to their nature and allow them to be what they are and according to their own desires...God doesn't tempt and SCripture is clear on that.
Just admit that you DON'T KNOW WHAT WE BELIEVE and QUIT LYING (like Satan does) about what you think we do....=/
God cannot deny himself ,he cannot lie, and he cannot be tempted by evil nor does he in fact tempt anyone -the LORD the Almighty Creator and maker is not reponsible for the fall of man neither did he arrange for it to happen in order that He could be glorified by it in anyway- it is very tragic-the first man- in the garden Adam chose to do what God clearly warned him NOT to do therefore God is not a co-conspirator if you believe that- you cannot logically accept calvinism- thanks for your soace
There you go barking up the wrong tree again....Calvinism does not teach that God tempts, lies or denies himself.
If all creation is God and God rules his creation, and God knows everything in one and all moments/before they happen from our perspective ...then didn't God know the Fall would happen? And didn't he allow it in some sense or is it your position that God was powerless to prevent the fall if he wanted to?
If we take your position, God is not God for he can't rule His own world.
of course He didnt come to condemn he is full of mercy -that is the reason that reformed theolofgy is in fact in very great error -the doctrine that calvin believed came from augustine that is fatalism and that is the error that from eternity God chose ONLY some to be elect- that is not the truth 1) God is no respector of persons-God created all the same- all have the same need 2) the jewish people are chosen the lost sheep of the house of israel but they still need to Repent -understand?
ummm....no. Fatalism is a very specific philosophical term that is not necessarily based upon the existence of a personal God or anything at all resembling Christianity, much less decent Theism.
The Bible is clear that from the beginning God chose only some to be his covenant people and rejected other....Abraham over countless others, Isaac and not Ishamel, Jacob and not Esau.....Israel and not the rest of the world was the pattern...the NT's fullest expressio of the OT is in election.
I know that I believe what I do - and it is that I dont see or seek or try to factually infer that the scriptures were written in order to condemn people and to contraidict the reason why Jesus Christ came...
yet again, more ignorance displayed my friend....can you document where any Calvinist claims or has said that Jesus' purpose in his coming was to condemn people? Does not the sCriptures says that those who do not believe are condemned already??? John 3:18???
actually fatalism teaches that events are inevitable regardless of the MEANS to get to those events...Calvinism, on the other hand, teaches the concept of "secondary causes" or "means" that God Himself uses in His providence to bring about His eternal decrees.
Please do some studying before you speak...even proverbs employs one to have knowledge before they speak...the one who doesn't is frequently called the "fool" by the Scriptures my friend....just some friendly advice.
How can you NOT know who Fred Phelps is? Are you trying to deny him out of existence? If so, sorry you can't do it. The question are his views a logical extension of Calvinist doctrine or is he somehow an abberation?
uhhhhh....I'll try looking him up but I honestly have never heard of Fred Phelps....does he have a book out or is he just an internet ministry or something?
According to Calvinists, because of sin all persons (including little children) deserve eternal death (p. 171). But this response is a dodge; it evades the central issue: if God can save everyone, and he desires to save everyone out of love, then why has he decided to leave some persons to damnation?
there is no dodge...the question itself is answered in Romans 9....God leaving some to eternal damnation is still God glorifying in that his justice and righteousness are clearly demonstrated and not lost at the cost of his love and mercy....ALL OF GOD is glorified in the salvation of some and the damnation of others. Eph. 1:3-6 is also clear that salvation is according to the will and good pleasure of God, not because anybody is owed it from God at all in the first place.
not all Puritans were Calvinist but sure, most of them were....but it was not the Calvinism alone that made them unwanted, it was their emphasis on purity and holiness especially within the Church....The Church of England was Calvinistic in Creed...most of the NE Colonies were also Calvinistic as well (though Congregationalist in their government).
no kidding! He's probably just comfortable talking about the subject...I mean, lets face it. we can't all show seriousness the way you think it should be demo'd....
prchdaword: With all the information on You Tube & the whole of the internet, why would anyone want to listen to this guy's rendition on Calvinism?I would think the first lure he would want to use, would be a visible semblance of seriousness.Otherwise, why would one listen in the first place? After all the subject at hand ultimately focus' on the purpose and efficacy of Jesus' suffering and death.Why would I want to listen to this guy's take on it when he's swinging in a chair like a 1st grader?
lol actually first graders don't get swinging chairs...
look, who you choose to listen to is your perogative....nobody is forcing you to listen to me....there are probably guys more qualified and especially literature that I would recommend...
Also, I'm not into appearances to gain an audience and such appearances and presentation do not make something more or less true...it only adds to rhetorical presentation and thats not why I personally want people to listen to me
its kind of good that I can appear to be "normal" and not "superhuman" so that people can see that Calvinism isn't just for the "white tower" people for it has to be able to lived out by ordinary people like me who swivel in a chair, or fidget with their hands - real people -
I don't mean to come across and "non serious" as I am passionate about theology, but I am still human and needs God's grace....I think you see that too my friend.
prchdaword: Agreed and Amen brother. It's important that the basic understanding of Calvinism be taken down the Ivory Tower and make it real. I firmly believe the T.U.L.I.P. IS the Gospel and it's supposed to be easily entreated unto those who have ears to hear.
I hope all who see these see that it was the...well I don't want to call him Arminian, but it was "him who shall not be named" who was the instigator and aggressor and even the one delving out the curses and such and that it was the Calvinist who had the decency to say "God bless you!!"
no need to twist it at all....just take it in its context. I have a whole article with this passage...I'll email it to ya in a bit....I'm having a cross examination session on a debate right now
Its not a sin to renounce Calvin...however why would I renounce writings that teach about the Trinity, Justification by Faith Alone, Sanctification, Jesus as Prophet, Priest and King, the Primacy and Authority of Scripture, Living in submission to Jesus Christ and many other Biblical teachings?? Why would I do that? I welcome any and all works that teach according to the Scriptures my friend...why don't you renounce your pastor since you say you only need your Bible??
again...if you want to go to the Scriptures we can....but if you are going to keep running your mouth and fluffing up your feathers, then this is already a pointless conversation....do you wish to go to the Scriptures concerning any particular teaching of Calvinism???
That's because you are misunderstanding Sola Scripture...it doesn't mean "The Bible alone and that's it" ....it means "The Bible alone is the sole infallible authority for doctrine and morals". This implies other authorities but those authorities are NOT infallible. hence, creeds and confessions are authorative insofar as they are in accord with scripture as are pastors and teachers, etc...
If you want sir, we can go to the Scripture and quit the polemics you so want to keep engaged in.
I'm not going to argue the sufficiency of Scripture with you because I believe in it to...and I didn't say I was "enlightened" by another man, but only pointed to things that I did not pay attention to in my casual/devotional reading of Scripture. He had studied and I had not so I missed much of what the texts was actually saying....
you know what's so funny...of all my videos, I don't think I have a 5 points series on here....I have debated the 5 points at the request of others, but I don't go and shove it down people's throats....
Remember, you came to me on this I didn't go to you. You are the one trying to convince me, I'm only defending what I believe....
oh I see what you are asking....let me just say that being Calvinist is not what makes one a Christian, so I don't believe that you have to be Calvinist in order to be saved NOR does Calvinism teach that. Simply faith in Christ is enough for justification unto eternal life.
The Christian life, however, does not end at justification it begins. And so does study of the Bible and the teachings contained therein. Rom 9 and Eph 1 among many other passages clearly teach that God ordains and elects
...some unto eternal life and some unto eternal damnation.
Now, sure, a casual reading of the Bible will not yield much in terms of doctrine, but theology is not mere casual reading but deep study and delving into the meaning of Scripture in its historical context and categorizing teachings and verse that support particular teachings. For instance, when one gathers all the verses that deal with humans in sin BEFORE Christ, the Doctrine of Total Depravity/Inability is the sum of Scripture...
...on the topic. Man's "input" is sometimes useful in pointing out what we ourselves sometimes miss in our own readings. For instance, before I became a Calvinist, I had read Romans 9 a few times and didn't think much of it because I didn't study it. But when the text was exposited to me all of a sudden what should have been obvious before became clear. It wasn't until the Holy Spirit illumined me to that text that I was overwhelmingly convinced (not of Calvinism) but of unconditional election..
and reprobation. All of sudden I feared God even more and gave Him thanks for grace and felt that I had a deeper understanding and grasp on the grace of God and more motivation to worship and serve God.
not sure what you're referring to here....are you trying to say that God can save somebody from their sins for a time and then give them back over to their just penalty??
Dude Why cant you Just Say JESUS LOVES YOU Like all us JESUS FREAK fu?! All This Calvanism Crap is C.R.A.P.
Fool all this Religion crap isnt a Relationship with God. its just some vato that thought wrong and didnt READ the Bible right man! really this Calvin dude, was just a fool who wanted a God and Religion to call his own. TRULY Just Love God, Believe in Jesus, feel His Holy Spirit, Preach the Word, and Buffer the Flesh. So Calva-quien sabe que, EAT THAT. And God Bless Yall homie.
Calvinism created a god that unconditionally elects reprobates before the world began,so the number can not increase or diminish, this god damns and destroys the very multi-millions of reprobates this god creates ,then calvinism' god creates a small group of unconditional elect that never can loose election even if they want. there in nothing just in this god,, its might is right! sin is no issue neither is Jesus,,, calvinism claims it was all predetermined
question:Are you born in the calvinist religion???????if not plese respect this religion and let the historians and other dudes to say these things!alright???
Let me guess...the people that you prove it to are already NOT Calvinist in the first place so they are probably already generally in agreement with you....oh yea...good stuff man!!! ;)
all false doctrine established in denominations is based on one common denomination,,,
instead of teaching babies are born in Gods image then stray away into temptation and sin,afterwards repenting
and reestablishing the image of God they are born in,,"born again..
false doctrine expresses babies are born sin nature that God creates babies in sin and they always keep sinning and cannot choose to stop sinning completely and walk holy! otherwise the deception is christians are slaves to sin..
whoa whoa whoa!! Pump the breaks sir!!! Nobody is teaching that "God creates babies in sin"...God doesn't CREATE them or MAKE them sinful. the corruption of sin is passed on through the parents, not from God. Please correct your assumption about what we teach lest you be proved a liar =/
AGAIN...I completely agree...God does not make babies sinners. I completely agree. Babies are a product of their parents and the inherit, not only the traits of their parents but also their nature, even its corrupted nature. The Bible says, "who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean" (Job 14:4)...is it your position that sinful people can bring forth clean and righteous being from their corrupted selves?
Sir, your knowledge of Calvinism is severely lacking and you are now a liar and a deciever since you choose to remain willfully ignorant to what Calvinism teaches and continue to propogate your lies and caricatures.
Truly disappointing....and I thought you didn't sin =/
Can you quote a single Calvinist that says "God makes babies sinful?" OR are you making this up and lying about what Calvinism teaches???
Personally, I think you are lying to yourself and your audience for your personal satisfaction. I have already told you twice that Calvinism does NOT teach that God "makes babies sinful."
Either get it right and repent of your lying and willful deception (as I have corrected you) or continue in your lies sir. =/
calvinism claims babies are sin nature before they are born,,, that God chooses people before they are conceived to be damned..then like a tyrant chooses a small group to be saved,,who always keep sinning just like the first group that are damned before they are born.
its nonsense and makes God a tyrant and also eliminates responsibility for the sinning calvinist
openair, read M R DeHaan's book, The Chemistry of the Blood, and it will enlight you as to the reason all humans are born into this world sinners. It is an inheritance that is both congenital and spiritual. Rom 5:12 says "as by ONE MAN SIN came into the world..." And he and his children and their children and so on down through human history passed on the death (sin nature) of Adam's sin to the next generation. Christ was qualified to die for sinners cuz His blood was not "infected" with "death"
so you came in here, all ants in your pants, about how "I'm not challenging primitive baptist" and now you're wasting your time? ha!! wow!! That's funny....
ummm....not sure what all the ranting and raving is about. Why don't you sum up your position in a nice sentce because - I'm not gonna lie - I'm not watching 8 videos
Theres one you don't hear everyday....considering that Calvinism holds to Justification by Faith Alone...and gee...Scripture Alone as the sole infallible authority for faith and doctrine...and believes that Christ Alone is the Savior without Saints or Mary...or that it rejects sacramentalism...and that it seeks to give God alone the glory....
so your problem is with the doctrine of original sin then?
Just curious, but Eph. 4:24 and Col. 3:10 speaking of being "renewed" and exhort us to "put on" the new man which is created according to God's image of true righteousness, holiness and knowledge. Is it your position that fallen man possesses righteousness, holiness and true knowledge of God contrary to Rom. 1:18-32? Is it your position that humanity is not corrupted by sin ??
Adam was the head and root of the entire human race by covenant and by creation. When he sinned, he didn't act alone so that God makes new covenants with every individual born. God made one covenant with man in the garden and he failed. When he fell, he ruined his nature and ours with it. Hence, "original sin" answers the question of the origin of sin after Adam since were were not all tempted to fall like Adam Rather, we are born corrupted...
actually Calvinism teaches that the "nature" we are born with is a corruption of the original nature...that is, it lacks the righteousness, holiness and knowledge of God that once filled it which is why the NT teaches that the person who is born again must be "renewed" or "put on" the new man which was created in God image according to true righteousness, holiness and knowledge (Eph 4:24,Col 3:10)
So is it your position that the nature of God is "to choose evil over good"?
Now, that Adam's sin was imputed/charged to all of humanity also works for the second Adam, Jesus Christ.
If Adam's sin cannot be imputed to us, then how can the righteousness of Jesus Christ also be imputed to us? How will we be righteous before God without the only righteousness that God will accept, the righteousness of Jesus Christ?
Will you be consistent and say that God will also judge men on the basis of their own righteousness??
CAn you quote any Calvinist or provide documentation where a Reformed Calvinst says, something to the effect of "our doctrine is an excuse to keep sinning"?
Or are YOU sinning by lying about what Calvinist really believe???
The saved have work to do we carry on the walk of Jesus on earth calling all men to salvation in Jesus name.
Luke 11:33 No man, when he hath lighted a candle, putteth it in a secret place, neither under a bushel, but on a candlestick, that they which come in may see the light.
John 10:9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.
..Calvin was an agent of the RCC...part of the counter-reformation movement, disguised as a Protestant. His main thrust was......No need to read your bible...as there is no provision for you to choose salvation from this world. He continues to fool a lot of people. Read your Bible folks....and believe Jesus....above all others.
...I thought so to...untill I checked it out. Part of my family is Catholic..they had a big bible with dates of births and deaths..but none of them had ever read it...no one in thier church read it either untill just recently. They were told by clergy that there was no need to read it....just come to church and we'll tell you what it means.
It offers no hope to all men that they can be saved.
Instead it tells sinful men; you dont come to God because God does not want you. Go then to your rightful eternity...Go on your way say the Calvinists as they open wider the gates of hell telling men to enter in.
how does it offer no "hope" when clearly the Bible teaches that apart from Sovereign grace there is no salvation?
Calvinism does not say, "You dont' come because God doesn't...." The Bible clearly teaches that men do not come because they "love the darkness rather than the light". If you leave salvation to people who love darkness friend, who will be saved at all? God must save, and God alone friend.
The Bible itself teaches that "narrow is the way, few there are that find it."
I understand your concerns for souls and so does the Calvinist. The difference is that you take that burden upon yourself when it is God who saves, not you. We are God's instruments in proclaiming the Gospel (and not one of easy-believism either!), but that Jesus died for sinners and ANYBODY who trusts in him will not be cast out but will be saved as John 6 teaches. John 6 equally teaches "no one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him..."(6:44,65) . Read ALL of Scripture
no one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him
John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him
John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
All men are called; One cannot get to heaven through Jesus apart from obeying Him [Hebrews 5:9]. Those who attempt to enter another way are counted as thieves and robbers and will be unsuccessful [John 10:1]
Curious...but are the ones who never heard of Christ, heard of the promises before Christ even existed physically, or died not ever hearing the Gospel because it never spread to their geographical area centuries later...how were they called? Isn't God ruling all the world and yet he did not provide for many?
And how do we obey Christ? By believing in Him first and foremost....
Seriously...the issue is not Jesus not being the way or the door. I think we agree there.
It's good to see you preaching the truth. There are so few reformers on You Tube, so I rejoice whenever I find videos from people who know the scriptures. I used to like the videos from Oct 30, 1512 (or whatever) but I noticed his account was suspended. I wonder why? Lane is also a great channel featuring Brother Mark. and there's Monty (Red Beetle), too. So the truth is out there if people want to know it. We just have to look a little harder to find it.
the Almighty was not the author and sponsor of calvins wicked decision to murder michael servitus -calvin chose to do this and will be held accountable for it - sound like someone who is full of grace and obedient to God....somebody with love in their heart and soul??
First of all, Michael Servetus walked into Geneva a condemned man already. He was on the run from Roman authorities for holding to Sabellianism. Calvin only charged him with the crime, it was the judicial authorities who put Servetus to death according to the law of the land and church according to the times that they lived in. Calvin pleaded with Servetus to recant and live but Servetus would not. Calvin was not a dictator of Geneva.
The question is this- and it is key issue Does and has God ever revealed anything to us that contraidict what we know about his Son about how we should live-he has revealed his will and it is not man live in rebellion the scripture speaks authority God is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance..john calvin was barbaric and treacherous man and the almighty was not his author and sponsor of his decisions that he had made romans 14 makes this clear
Its like this you don't need to teach some one how to be bad. But you do need to teach them to do the right thing. That what the Holy Ghost does. when you reserve Gods only Son.
--Thats way God sent His Only Son to be sin for us. We all first need to repent for our sin, then turn away from our sin with the grace and help of God and His Only Son. You know what I mean.
Yes we have to be born again.
(1Pe 1:23) Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
God is not obligated. What I'm saying is that He is a loving God and He wants only the best or only the good things for us. Bad thing happen to us because we chose to do the wrong thing which is sin or other words not chose the right thing. Sin is disobeying what God says is the right thing to do.(Rom 3:20),(1Jn 3:4)--
Not sure where you're going with the Ps 36:1 verse...
Read Josh 24:15 in context again...what are the choices Joshua is presenting? "And if it seems evil for you to serve the LORD,Choose you this day whom you will serve, whether the gods which your fathers served...or the gods of the Amorites. But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord."
Is Joshua saying that they are free to serve the LORD? Hardly. He is getting afte the people for their idolatry...
he is giving them a choice between the gods of their fathers and the gods of the Amorites. Also, note how he is speaking. He is not speaking doctrinally, but laying out covenant stipulations with the people at Shechem. He has reminded them of all God did for them (v1-13) and in v14 lays out the requirements "Serve the LORD". But if you won't, then choose which gods you will serve is what he is saying.
Point, he is not saying how choices are made, but only that if they will not serve the Lord, then they will serve other gods.
"Free will" is a phrase describing how choices are made "freely" "without cause"; "without determination". This means that we choose without reason. "Free will" does not simply mean "I have a will". Calvinist believe that we have a will; but we believe that we make choices based on the desires of our hearts; either righteous or unrighteous.
If my heart is righteous, then righteous choices will be produced from my will. but if my desires are sinful, then sin will be reflected in and through my choices. Sinners do not make choices APART FROM THEIR SINFUL NATURE; Hence, we are slaves to sin as Jesus himself said in John 8:34 "Truly, truly I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin."
Is a slave free? If sinners are slaves to sin, how can you say that we are free to choose against what we are enslaved to?
yes, God chooses us...but he doesn't save us by "forcing" us to choose him. God still uses ordinary means, like changing the human heart (being born again), faith and repentance, conversion, sanctification, etc....
Yes, the Bible does teach that the heart alone, according to it fallen and depraved state only chooses sin (Gen. 6:4). Even Moses told Israel to pray that God would circumcise their heart, and not merely their flesh because their flesh could not produce life...John 3:6,Rom8:7-8
Gods alway right and good, He's never wrong or bad. (right)So God does not have the free will to do wrong or bad. He only has the free will to do what is good for us.
So Gods Son only had only one chose as in He had to die for us. He never had the chose not to because He cann't chose the wrong thing He could only do the right thing if you know what I mean.
but your first mistake is assuming that God is obligated to treat sinners graciously. God is under no such obligation, otherwise, Grace would no longer be grace. God doesn't owe mercy. God could have righteously said, "I won't save anybody at all" and still lose nothing of his character, love or holiness.
God has the freedom of how and when to express his attributes. Your fallacy is obligating God to be gracious equally to all, something clearly not in the Bible.
Gods Son chose to died for us freely.He died #1 For our sins when we were still sinners.#2 He did it so that He wouldn't lose His children, or His people or chosen ones if you would say.
yes, Jesus Christ died for us freely...yes. He did for our sins, yup. He did it so that he wouldn't lose His people (Matthew 1:21). Totally agreed. =)
remember that the doctrine of calvinism reasons about God in manner that contraidicts what he has already revealed in the scripture which is repentance towrd God and faith toward our Lord Jesus christ-therefore calvinism is nothing more than cunning theological system that amounts to "fools gold" declaring God capricious and who acts particular in an arbitrary who himself doesnt desire of the salvation of the whole world for whom he died-this is shown to be error when you study the scriptures
Wow. How is that you want to say that Calvinism is "unscriptural" when it is "Calvinist" (believers in Predestination) that gave us the doctrine of Sola Scriptura (Luther, Zwingli and Calvin)?
Can you tell me which Calvinist has taught against faith and repentance as requirements toward salvation? I'll take it you have never read Calvinist before right? You have probably only read ABOUT CALVINIST FROM NON-CALVINIST, right? Do your own homework my friend.... ;)
K.J.V(Rom 3:24) Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
The E.S.V takes out the word freely and changes the verse so that they can have the doctrine of election.
E.S.V(Rom 3:24) and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,
Gods Only Son was elected.!! Meaning that Gods Son didn't not have a chose. The Son of God know what had to be done and He obeyed His Father in heaven.
In the Greek, the word there is "chariti" which is from the word "charis" which is translated as "grace". "Grace" certainly implies "freely" or "undeservedly or freely given". Is it your position that what God freely gives, is not God's grace?
God the Son did have a choice and he choose willingly. Is it your position that the Son of God does not have a "free will"?
He obeyed WILLINGLY; not "without a choice". That has implication with the doctrine of the Tirnity.
God doesn't "force" anybody to do anything. He merely renews the nature and changes the hearts of people whom he has chosen to redeem from before the foundation of the world. Calvinism does not teach that God "violates a persons free will" to save them...God renews the will and nature of people so that they willingly choose Him from their own desires of their own renewed hearts. This is what happens at regeneration. See Ezek 36:25-27.
adam and eve fell into sin with wilful knowledge it was because they went against their conscience from the moment they listened to the serpent and his deception turning from Gods word to their own folly and shame- it should be noted that the LORD did not predestinate them to this choice because was not a co-conspirator with them- and he did not validate their rebellion and because he is holy and in fact did judge them...this is because God cannot deny his holy nature because he is truth
God demonstrated his love for us in that we were yet sinners Christ died for us.. there are the rebellious angelic creatures -being demons-that that utterly hate Gods creation that want to deceive people concerning his(Gods)holy plan for them and his name is lucifer who is satan-he wants people to reject christ
ever since the beginning of creation of the world Adam and Eve fell by disobedience thereby bringing sin into the world-but they fell into it through their choice which was not to listen to what commanded them do and that is why it is such a tragedy ..
agree. But that doesn't negate the fact that God CHOSE to save. And there are many instances in the Bible where He chooses to bless some and not others.
Praise Calvin, Bitches!!!
I am such a Calvinist that I pray to Calvin instead of to Jesus.
wellsbranchdude 2 months ago
@wellsbranchdude actually that makes you an idolater and not a Calvinist at all my friend =)
prchdaword 2 months ago
@jesussavesist well I would say it is not Christianity that is those things but sinners who are Christians....everybody brings their own baggage in and Christians are far from perfect....Christianity is not a "moral" code but a body of people who have been redeemed and are members of a covenant community. Thus, it cannot be reduced to another code of morality...if it could Jesus died for nothing.
prchdaword 1 year ago
Romans 5:1
Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
MODERATECALVINISM 1 year ago
You seem to have a very informative video on a topic I want to know about. howver since you didn’t have a mic anywhere near your mouth, I can’t hear a word you say.
Thusly, can you post English subtitles or make another video where folks can hear your speech?
Sogwa 1 year ago
@Sogwa hmmm....that's odd...maybe its a setting or something, cause the audio seems to be fine on my playing of the video....I'll look into it....I have started to use some more written material in my more recent videos.
prchdaword 1 year ago
just wondering about the choice to believe, did that come from above? or from within? do not all good things come from above? can any good come out of man?
TheYiga 1 year ago
The choice is really ours...we make that choice yet we must first be enabled through God's calling and regeneration to be able to believe unto eternal life as our fallen and depraved nature does not and will not choose the things of God while still in a fallen state (Rom 8:7-8)
prchdaword 1 year ago
its all bla bla bla... its simple>>>Luv God Luv your fellow humans.. Salom God bless
rustydusty40 2 years ago
@rustydusty40 not going to disagree with you....I would only add that one of the ways that we love God is by getting to know him and we come to know him through His word. These things are what the Church has found out about God in His word throughout the centuries and hopefully they spur us to see God truly so that we may love Him truly and not accoridng to figments of our own imagination and make an idol of God. To know and love God is the goal!! =)
prchdaword 2 years ago
@prchdaword yes you are right... what i mean by all the bla,, is there is much wind from alot of videos about God. although your video was very helpful... God bless ya brother...
rustydusty40 2 years ago
the reason i am even replying to your website is that I wanted to find out your view of God sovereignty -remember this quote "God not only foreknew the fall he even arranged it " correct quote -?
tgillspy 2 years ago
If you're really interested in finding out in what sense God arranged the fall and even arranges sin, you are welcomed to read my studies on the Westminster Confession that are on my website....follow the link off my channel....I deal with the topics....see topics in Chapter 3 and especially chapter 5
where is that quote from? Usually Calvinist do not use the term "foreknew" in the sense that it is being used here (prescient knowledge) thats the only reason I'm asking....
prchdaword 2 years ago
No ....GOD HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FALL OF MAN -prchdword God didnt compel them toward that end - God his holy he cannot contraidict himself He is true to his nature he didnt choose lucifer revolt rebellion against Himself - man fell when they listened to a lie rather than to the word of God in the garden of eden deciding to to take control them selves ...which is the heart of rebellion
tgillspy 2 years ago
We totally agree that God did not tempt or "compel" anybody to do anything...but as God of His own world He had to at least allow it and as being all knowing from all eternity He infallibly new that it would happen and he allowed it to happen...just think of all the evil that befell Joseph....yet what does the SCriptures say, "YOU intended for evil but God intended it for good..." CLEARLY God, in infinite wisdom, is able to use the sin of the creature to bring about his own purposes!
prchdaword 2 years ago
God is immutable and holy he does not change but the serpent is the most subtle beast of the field an arch enemy the test would come to man "yea hath God said.....? satan twisting the word of God to adam .you shall not surely die - waiting to attack -waiting to strike -a masterfully cunning disguise then they lingered they listened to the lie they believed the lie and they acted on the lie and then sin right straight through the heart the fall into darkness and God had nothing to do with it
tgillspy 2 years ago
Great. so you believe God was completely helpless in controlling his own creation....I now see that you are a Deist and have no place in Christian Theism at all.
Thats a pretty terrible way of thinking..."God had nothing to do with it..." after creating his highest creation, God had nothing to do with them....just left them there completely ignorant and oblivious to the fall.....
prchdaword 2 years ago
the problem with your arguments is that they are based on assumptions of what you think Calvinist believe but we do not believe that God is the agent of evil or sin in the world...we do believe that God is able to use the creatures according to their nature and allow them to be what they are and according to their own desires...God doesn't tempt and SCripture is clear on that.
Just admit that you DON'T KNOW WHAT WE BELIEVE and QUIT LYING (like Satan does) about what you think we do....=/
prchdaword 2 years ago
God cannot deny himself ,he cannot lie, and he cannot be tempted by evil nor does he in fact tempt anyone -the LORD the Almighty Creator and maker is not reponsible for the fall of man neither did he arrange for it to happen in order that He could be glorified by it in anyway- it is very tragic-the first man- in the garden Adam chose to do what God clearly warned him NOT to do therefore God is not a co-conspirator if you believe that- you cannot logically accept calvinism- thanks for your soace
tgillspy 2 years ago
There you go barking up the wrong tree again....Calvinism does not teach that God tempts, lies or denies himself.
If all creation is God and God rules his creation, and God knows everything in one and all moments/before they happen from our perspective ...then didn't God know the Fall would happen? And didn't he allow it in some sense or is it your position that God was powerless to prevent the fall if he wanted to?
If we take your position, God is not God for he can't rule His own world.
prchdaword 2 years ago
of course He didnt come to condemn he is full of mercy -that is the reason that reformed theolofgy is in fact in very great error -the doctrine that calvin believed came from augustine that is fatalism and that is the error that from eternity God chose ONLY some to be elect- that is not the truth 1) God is no respector of persons-God created all the same- all have the same need 2) the jewish people are chosen the lost sheep of the house of israel but they still need to Repent -understand?
tgillspy 2 years ago
ummm....no. Fatalism is a very specific philosophical term that is not necessarily based upon the existence of a personal God or anything at all resembling Christianity, much less decent Theism.
The Bible is clear that from the beginning God chose only some to be his covenant people and rejected other....Abraham over countless others, Isaac and not Ishamel, Jacob and not Esau.....Israel and not the rest of the world was the pattern...the NT's fullest expressio of the OT is in election.
prchdaword 2 years ago
I know that I believe what I do - and it is that I dont see or seek or try to factually infer that the scriptures were written in order to condemn people and to contraidict the reason why Jesus Christ came...
tgillspy 2 years ago
yet again, more ignorance displayed my friend....can you document where any Calvinist claims or has said that Jesus' purpose in his coming was to condemn people? Does not the sCriptures says that those who do not believe are condemned already??? John 3:18???
prchdaword 2 years ago
calvinism is fatalism and is therefore the antithesis of the awesome intent of what theology is and is meant to convey to us
tgillspy 2 years ago
actually fatalism teaches that events are inevitable regardless of the MEANS to get to those events...Calvinism, on the other hand, teaches the concept of "secondary causes" or "means" that God Himself uses in His providence to bring about His eternal decrees.
Please do some studying before you speak...even proverbs employs one to have knowledge before they speak...the one who doesn't is frequently called the "fool" by the Scriptures my friend....just some friendly advice.
prchdaword 2 years ago
How can you NOT know who Fred Phelps is? Are you trying to deny him out of existence? If so, sorry you can't do it. The question are his views a logical extension of Calvinist doctrine or is he somehow an abberation?
Frelsun1234 2 years ago
uhhhhh....I'll try looking him up but I honestly have never heard of Fred Phelps....does he have a book out or is he just an internet ministry or something?
prchdaword 2 years ago
Do you think Fred Phelps is a true Calvinist; is he mostly right but goes too far; totally wrong, or just a little too flashy?
Frelsun1234 2 years ago
I have no idea who Fred Phelps is....sorry =/
prchdaword 2 years ago
According to Calvinists, because of sin all persons (including little children) deserve eternal death (p. 171). But this response is a dodge; it evades the central issue: if God can save everyone, and he desires to save everyone out of love, then why has he decided to leave some persons to damnation?
TrueSaintsLDS 2 years ago
there is no dodge...the question itself is answered in Romans 9....God leaving some to eternal damnation is still God glorifying in that his justice and righteousness are clearly demonstrated and not lost at the cost of his love and mercy....ALL OF GOD is glorified in the salvation of some and the damnation of others. Eph. 1:3-6 is also clear that salvation is according to the will and good pleasure of God, not because anybody is owed it from God at all in the first place.
prchdaword 2 years ago
werent the Calvinist's also known as the dreaded "Puritans"!! a sect seen as so fascistic the no one wanted them around.
acerb45666555 2 years ago
not all Puritans were Calvinist but sure, most of them were....but it was not the Calvinism alone that made them unwanted, it was their emphasis on purity and holiness especially within the Church....The Church of England was Calvinistic in Creed...most of the NE Colonies were also Calvinistic as well (though Congregationalist in their government).
prchdaword 2 years ago
hello could you put together a 6-10 point summuray on the beliefs of calvanism, that would be very helpful to me, thank you!
Davlon8 2 years ago
I will do my best to hopefully complete this series soon as this issue has become quite huge on YouTube....
prchdaword 2 years ago
Why would I want to listen to a dissertation regarding Calvinism, with a guy swinging chair.
He can't be too serious about the subject, or, is he?
My Goodness, what's in this guy's head, that makes him thinks he's the slightest degree interesting?
What a big snor- and I mean BIG!
Prohoridzo 2 years ago
no kidding! He's probably just comfortable talking about the subject...I mean, lets face it. we can't all show seriousness the way you think it should be demo'd....
prchdaword 2 years ago
prchdaword: With all the information on You Tube & the whole of the internet, why would anyone want to listen to this guy's rendition on Calvinism?I would think the first lure he would want to use, would be a visible semblance of seriousness.Otherwise, why would one listen in the first place? After all the subject at hand ultimately focus' on the purpose and efficacy of Jesus' suffering and death.Why would I want to listen to this guy's take on it when he's swinging in a chair like a 1st grader?
Prohoridzo 2 years ago
lol actually first graders don't get swinging chairs...
look, who you choose to listen to is your perogative....nobody is forcing you to listen to me....there are probably guys more qualified and especially literature that I would recommend...
Also, I'm not into appearances to gain an audience and such appearances and presentation do not make something more or less true...it only adds to rhetorical presentation and thats not why I personally want people to listen to me
prchdaword 2 years ago
It just hit me...
its kind of good that I can appear to be "normal" and not "superhuman" so that people can see that Calvinism isn't just for the "white tower" people for it has to be able to lived out by ordinary people like me who swivel in a chair, or fidget with their hands - real people -
I don't mean to come across and "non serious" as I am passionate about theology, but I am still human and needs God's grace....I think you see that too my friend.
God bless.
prchdaword 2 years ago
prchdaword: Agreed and Amen brother. It's important that the basic understanding of Calvinism be taken down the Ivory Tower and make it real. I firmly believe the T.U.L.I.P. IS the Gospel and it's supposed to be easily entreated unto those who have ears to hear.
I stand (or sit) corrected.
May the Lord richly bless you.
Prohoridzo 2 years ago
Thank you for your kind words my brother. God bless you too!!!
prchdaword 2 years ago
I stop then
have a good life calvy boy
1VisionaryMissionary 2 years ago
I will my friend =)
God bless you....
I hope all who see these see that it was the...well I don't want to call him Arminian, but it was "him who shall not be named" who was the instigator and aggressor and even the one delving out the curses and such and that it was the Calvinist who had the decency to say "God bless you!!"
prchdaword 2 years ago
1 John 2:2 (KJV) And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
what does this say
seems like thats all calvinist do is debate and stand up for their leader calvin
1VisionaryMissionary 2 years ago
buddy....you're the one that can't stop ;)
see my email which deals with my exposition of the text....read the whole thing before you think i say, "world = elect"....might just be surpised
prchdaword 2 years ago
I did renounce the pastor
he's a calvinist too
I see that u need those other books to help u understand what GOD says in HIS word
James 1:5 (KJV) If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
here's the verse for u to twist
go ahead get started calvy boy
1 John 2:2 (KJV) And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
1VisionaryMissionary 2 years ago
no need to twist it at all....just take it in its context. I have a whole article with this passage...I'll email it to ya in a bit....I'm having a cross examination session on a debate right now
prchdaword 2 years ago
Im still waiting for you to twist the verses I sent you
and I renounce every book calvin wrote and all the calvinist in the cult
do u renounce every book written by calvin or is it a sin for u to do that
1VisionaryMissionary 2 years ago
which verses?
Its not a sin to renounce Calvin...however why would I renounce writings that teach about the Trinity, Justification by Faith Alone, Sanctification, Jesus as Prophet, Priest and King, the Primacy and Authority of Scripture, Living in submission to Jesus Christ and many other Biblical teachings?? Why would I do that? I welcome any and all works that teach according to the Scriptures my friend...why don't you renounce your pastor since you say you only need your Bible??
prchdaword 2 years ago
ok...I see which verse...Jesus is light...all the ones who believe in him will not abide in darkness. That is my understanding.
prchdaword 2 years ago
u should do the right thing and throw away those calvin books and stick with just one The word of GOD
because that's all u need
do u agree with that?
all u need is the word of GOD.
ur being just as bad as the mormons adding to GOD's words
1VisionaryMissionary 2 years ago
Do you want to go to the SCripture or not since you talk about them so much??
prchdaword 2 years ago
I point the lost to JESUS with JESUS' words
u needs calvin to teach u
did u know that
calvanism is the gospel according to spurgeon
the more I look into this cult the more I see how jacked up you guys really are
so how do u make those verses fit calvinism
1VisionaryMissionary 2 years ago
again...if you want to go to the Scriptures we can....but if you are going to keep running your mouth and fluffing up your feathers, then this is already a pointless conversation....do you wish to go to the Scriptures concerning any particular teaching of Calvinism???
prchdaword 2 years ago
sorry but u cant use scripture it doesnt back up the calvinist it only backs up JESUS
but u can try to twist these verses to fit ur calvinism
John 12:46 (KJV) I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.
John 12:46 (KJV) I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.
have fun twisting
and also remember if u dont want people to come to u then dont post it
1VisionaryMissionary 2 years ago
Amen brother! Calvinism only points to Jesus....your caricatures of it point them some place else!!!
prchdaword 2 years ago
"Sola Scriptura"
its pretty contradictive for calvinist to say these words and then have all the books of other men
blind blind blind
1VisionaryMissionary 2 years ago
That's because you are misunderstanding Sola Scripture...it doesn't mean "The Bible alone and that's it" ....it means "The Bible alone is the sole infallible authority for doctrine and morals". This implies other authorities but those authorities are NOT infallible. hence, creeds and confessions are authorative insofar as they are in accord with scripture as are pastors and teachers, etc...
If you want sir, we can go to the Scripture and quit the polemics you so want to keep engaged in.
prchdaword 2 years ago
and u were enlightened by who? a man another calvinist.....to teach u the ways of calvin thought
I've been a christian for 24 yrs
and my pastor gave me good instructions
he said " read the word of GOD its the only book u will ever need"
he was so right
1VisionaryMissionary 2 years ago
I'm not going to argue the sufficiency of Scripture with you because I believe in it to...and I didn't say I was "enlightened" by another man, but only pointed to things that I did not pay attention to in my casual/devotional reading of Scripture. He had studied and I had not so I missed much of what the texts was actually saying....
prchdaword 2 years ago
Man's "input"
what's the HOLY SPIRIT for?
1VisionaryMissionary 2 years ago
The Holy Spirit illumines us to recieve the word....why do you ask?
prchdaword 2 years ago
what I see in all that you guys study...its only to argue that calvinist are right
its not to further the gospel....its to argue the 5 points
1VisionaryMissionary 2 years ago
you know what's so funny...of all my videos, I don't think I have a 5 points series on here....I have debated the 5 points at the request of others, but I don't go and shove it down people's throats....
Remember, you came to me on this I didn't go to you. You are the one trying to convince me, I'm only defending what I believe....
prchdaword 2 years ago
if calvinism is so right what did the people in 1400's have to believe
was the belief in CHRIST not enough?
I'm not on any side but when ur an outsider looking at yall argue over what men taught in makes it look like to cults fighting each other cal vs arm
the fact is if anyone reads the bible without any mans input they will never come to the conclusion that they need to be calvinist
1VisionaryMissionary 2 years ago
oh I see what you are asking....let me just say that being Calvinist is not what makes one a Christian, so I don't believe that you have to be Calvinist in order to be saved NOR does Calvinism teach that. Simply faith in Christ is enough for justification unto eternal life.
The Christian life, however, does not end at justification it begins. And so does study of the Bible and the teachings contained therein. Rom 9 and Eph 1 among many other passages clearly teach that God ordains and elects
prchdaword 2 years ago
...some unto eternal life and some unto eternal damnation.
Now, sure, a casual reading of the Bible will not yield much in terms of doctrine, but theology is not mere casual reading but deep study and delving into the meaning of Scripture in its historical context and categorizing teachings and verse that support particular teachings. For instance, when one gathers all the verses that deal with humans in sin BEFORE Christ, the Doctrine of Total Depravity/Inability is the sum of Scripture...
prchdaword 2 years ago
...on the topic. Man's "input" is sometimes useful in pointing out what we ourselves sometimes miss in our own readings. For instance, before I became a Calvinist, I had read Romans 9 a few times and didn't think much of it because I didn't study it. But when the text was exposited to me all of a sudden what should have been obvious before became clear. It wasn't until the Holy Spirit illumined me to that text that I was overwhelmingly convinced (not of Calvinism) but of unconditional election..
prchdaword 2 years ago
and reprobation. All of sudden I feared God even more and gave Him thanks for grace and felt that I had a deeper understanding and grasp on the grace of God and more motivation to worship and serve God.
prchdaword 2 years ago
what did u believe before calvin was born?
1VisionaryMissionary 2 years ago
I wasn't around before Calvin so how do you want me to answer that question?
prchdaword 2 years ago
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hugiaino 2 years ago
why don't you tell me what you're talking believe...
prchdaword 2 years ago
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hugiaino 2 years ago
not sure what you're referring to here....are you trying to say that God can save somebody from their sins for a time and then give them back over to their just penalty??
Could you clarify, please?
prchdaword 2 years ago
ZZZZ!!!!!
Dude Why cant you Just Say JESUS LOVES YOU Like all us JESUS FREAK fu?! All This Calvanism Crap is C.R.A.P.
Fool all this Religion crap isnt a Relationship with God. its just some vato that thought wrong and didnt READ the Bible right man! really this Calvin dude, was just a fool who wanted a God and Religion to call his own. TRULY Just Love God, Believe in Jesus, feel His Holy Spirit, Preach the Word, and Buffer the Flesh. So Calva-quien sabe que, EAT THAT. And God Bless Yall homie.
TwyztedMuzik 2 years ago
the fool speaks without knowledge...see Prov. 15:14
first off, Calvin did not name his own theology, his later followers did.
Eat that?? Are you "feeling the spirit" with such comments or is that the flesh speaking? Doesn't loving Jesus mean loving the brethren (I John 4:7)?
Is that where your Christianity leads you my friend?
prchdaword 2 years ago
Calvinism created a god that unconditionally elects reprobates before the world began,so the number can not increase or diminish, this god damns and destroys the very multi-millions of reprobates this god creates ,then calvinism' god creates a small group of unconditional elect that never can loose election even if they want. there in nothing just in this god,, its might is right! sin is no issue neither is Jesus,,, calvinism claims it was all predetermined
openairpreacher 2 years ago
actually, reprobation is conditioned upon sin...Election unto salvation is unconditional, get your facts straight. Strike one.
a small group of saved? Rev. 7:9 say it is a multitude that no man can number. Strike 2.
you believe that people want to lose salvation which is a damnable strike three because the salvation of your god is not life changingly glorious.
YOU'RE OUTTA HERE!!!
prchdaword 2 years ago
prch
calvinism says people are elected before man ever sinned before the world was formed...and reprobates were the left overs...
Jesus said FEW will find the narrow path,,,
most will fail...so salvation can be lost...
wake up sinner! get saved
openairpreacher 2 years ago
um,ok sorry then,I was just a little mad about these stupid comments from the vid
anbublact096 2 years ago
calvinist church 1555
founder: john calvin
switzerland
gerryboy101 2 years ago
question:Are you born in the calvinist religion???????if not plese respect this religion and let the historians and other dudes to say these things!alright???
anbublact096 2 years ago
I don't think anybody is "born" a Calvinist...it something you have to learn and then accept to believe in
I was raised United Methodist by the way ;)
prchdaword 2 years ago
Calvinism is a cult!
calvinismisacult 2 years ago
prove it ;)
prchdaword 2 years ago
I prove it to people everyday, and they admit it was proven to them on a daily basis, Honest people see my channel for more than enough proof.
unconditional damnation is from the pit of Hell.
calvinismisacult 2 years ago
Let me guess...the people that you prove it to are already NOT Calvinist in the first place so they are probably already generally in agreement with you....oh yea...good stuff man!!! ;)
prchdaword 2 years ago
all false doctrine established in denominations is based on one common denomination,,,
instead of teaching babies are born in Gods image then stray away into temptation and sin,afterwards repenting
and reestablishing the image of God they are born in,,"born again..
false doctrine expresses babies are born sin nature that God creates babies in sin and they always keep sinning and cannot choose to stop sinning completely and walk holy! otherwise the deception is christians are slaves to sin..
openairpreacher 2 years ago
whoa whoa whoa!! Pump the breaks sir!!! Nobody is teaching that "God creates babies in sin"...God doesn't CREATE them or MAKE them sinful. the corruption of sin is passed on through the parents, not from God. Please correct your assumption about what we teach lest you be proved a liar =/
prchdaword 2 years ago
the bible says all things are created by Jesus.... Jesus is God!
God does not make babies sinners..
calvinism does its the devils religion..
trapping people into being slaves to sin,,why? because they teach no one has a freewill to walk holy and stop sinning
calvinism states babies are made sin nature,,its wicked
openairpreacher 2 years ago
AGAIN...I completely agree...God does not make babies sinners. I completely agree. Babies are a product of their parents and the inherit, not only the traits of their parents but also their nature, even its corrupted nature. The Bible says, "who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean" (Job 14:4)...is it your position that sinful people can bring forth clean and righteous being from their corrupted selves?
prchdaword 2 years ago
thats humanism the Idea that man is created by himself apart from a creator..
the bible clearly states Jesus is our creator and the Idea Jesus creates all men with sin nature is nonsense!
in calvinism if a boy's father steals a car the boy is guilty of the sin...
of course it takes responsiblity away from calvinists and they can dance around and brag about sinning daily in word ,thought or deed!
openairpreacher 2 years ago
umm..."humanism" is not that. Your ignorant.
Sir, your knowledge of Calvinism is severely lacking and you are now a liar and a deciever since you choose to remain willfully ignorant to what Calvinism teaches and continue to propogate your lies and caricatures.
Truly disappointing....and I thought you didn't sin =/
prchdaword 2 years ago
prchdaword
real Christians love Jesus and stop sinning,,that drives devils mad!
openairpreacher 2 years ago
so stop sinning already and be truthful =)
prchdaword 2 years ago
Can you quote a single Calvinist that says "God makes babies sinful?" OR are you making this up and lying about what Calvinism teaches???
Personally, I think you are lying to yourself and your audience for your personal satisfaction. I have already told you twice that Calvinism does NOT teach that God "makes babies sinful."
Either get it right and repent of your lying and willful deception (as I have corrected you) or continue in your lies sir. =/
prchdaword 2 years ago
calvinism claims babies are sin nature before they are born,,, that God chooses people before they are conceived to be damned..then like a tyrant chooses a small group to be saved,,who always keep sinning just like the first group that are damned before they are born.
its nonsense and makes God a tyrant and also eliminates responsibility for the sinning calvinist
openairpreacher 2 years ago
openair, read M R DeHaan's book, The Chemistry of the Blood, and it will enlight you as to the reason all humans are born into this world sinners. It is an inheritance that is both congenital and spiritual. Rom 5:12 says "as by ONE MAN SIN came into the world..." And he and his children and their children and so on down through human history passed on the death (sin nature) of Adam's sin to the next generation. Christ was qualified to die for sinners cuz His blood was not "infected" with "death"
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hugiaino 2 years ago
so you came in here, all ants in your pants, about how "I'm not challenging primitive baptist" and now you're wasting your time? ha!! wow!! That's funny....
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hugiaino 2 years ago
ummm....not sure what all the ranting and raving is about. Why don't you sum up your position in a nice sentce because - I'm not gonna lie - I'm not watching 8 videos
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hugiaino 2 years ago
how can I be afraid of something I know nothing about???
prchdaword 2 years ago
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hugiaino 2 years ago
calvinism is catholic in disguise!
openairpreacher 2 years ago
Theres one you don't hear everyday....considering that Calvinism holds to Justification by Faith Alone...and gee...Scripture Alone as the sole infallible authority for faith and doctrine...and believes that Christ Alone is the Savior without Saints or Mary...or that it rejects sacramentalism...and that it seeks to give God alone the glory....
I would love to hear you insights though.... =)
prchdaword 2 years ago
calvinims embraces "step one" of catholicism...they very deception the keeps people out of heaven
openairpreacher 2 years ago
ummm....still not making sense...especially in light of the fact that historically and theologically, you are completely wrong. =/
what is "step one"??
prchdaword 2 years ago
the Jews always taught that babys and born in Gods image not sin nature,,
so history and truth is against your deception
openairpreacher 2 years ago
so your problem is with the doctrine of original sin then?
Just curious, but Eph. 4:24 and Col. 3:10 speaking of being "renewed" and exhort us to "put on" the new man which is created according to God's image of true righteousness, holiness and knowledge. Is it your position that fallen man possesses righteousness, holiness and true knowledge of God contrary to Rom. 1:18-32? Is it your position that humanity is not corrupted by sin ??
prchdaword 2 years ago
what sin does another man do,,, that God will judge you for?
openairpreacher 2 years ago
Adam was the head and root of the entire human race by covenant and by creation. When he sinned, he didn't act alone so that God makes new covenants with every individual born. God made one covenant with man in the garden and he failed. When he fell, he ruined his nature and ours with it. Hence, "original sin" answers the question of the origin of sin after Adam since were were not all tempted to fall like Adam Rather, we are born corrupted...
prchdaword 2 years ago
because Adam sinned,, God gave all people a conscience and a God like nature to choose good over evil,,
Calvinism /catholic teaching claims people are born in sin nature or satans nature,,,, that God makes people in satans nature! nonsense
born sin nature in the image of satan!
calvinism is dangerous
openairpreacher 2 years ago
actually Calvinism teaches that the "nature" we are born with is a corruption of the original nature...that is, it lacks the righteousness, holiness and knowledge of God that once filled it which is why the NT teaches that the person who is born again must be "renewed" or "put on" the new man which was created in God image according to true righteousness, holiness and knowledge (Eph 4:24,Col 3:10)
So is it your position that the nature of God is "to choose evil over good"?
prchdaword 2 years ago
Now, that Adam's sin was imputed/charged to all of humanity also works for the second Adam, Jesus Christ.
If Adam's sin cannot be imputed to us, then how can the righteousness of Jesus Christ also be imputed to us? How will we be righteous before God without the only righteousness that God will accept, the righteousness of Jesus Christ?
Will you be consistent and say that God will also judge men on the basis of their own righteousness??
prchdaword 2 years ago
sin is a action that is judged,,not a calvinist mystical notion...that jumps on people in the womb!
your doctrine is a excuse to keep sinning
openairpreacher 2 years ago
CAn you quote any Calvinist or provide documentation where a Reformed Calvinst says, something to the effect of "our doctrine is an excuse to keep sinning"?
Or are YOU sinning by lying about what Calvinist really believe???
tisk tisk....
prchdaword 2 years ago
The saved have work to do we carry on the walk of Jesus on earth calling all men to salvation in Jesus name.
Luke 11:33 No man, when he hath lighted a candle, putteth it in a secret place, neither under a bushel, but on a candlestick, that they which come in may see the light.
John 10:9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.
Terri3210 2 years ago
yes!! the Great Commission!! Totally agree. =)
prchdaword 2 years ago
..Calvin was an agent of the RCC...part of the counter-reformation movement, disguised as a Protestant. His main thrust was......No need to read your bible...as there is no provision for you to choose salvation from this world. He continues to fool a lot of people. Read your Bible folks....and believe Jesus....above all others.
vachief 2 years ago
LOL. This is laughable
prchdaword 2 years ago
...I thought so to...untill I checked it out. Part of my family is Catholic..they had a big bible with dates of births and deaths..but none of them had ever read it...no one in thier church read it either untill just recently. They were told by clergy that there was no need to read it....just come to church and we'll tell you what it means.
vachief 2 years ago
Calvinism assists in sending men to hell.
Its clearly the work of satan not of God.
It offers no hope to all men that they can be saved.
Instead it tells sinful men; you dont come to God because God does not want you. Go then to your rightful eternity...Go on your way say the Calvinists as they open wider the gates of hell telling men to enter in.
Truly they work for their father the devil...
Beware of Calvinist pitfalls along the way.
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Jesus died that you may be saved.
Call on Jesus today!
Terri3210 2 years ago
how does it offer no "hope" when clearly the Bible teaches that apart from Sovereign grace there is no salvation?
Calvinism does not say, "You dont' come because God doesn't...." The Bible clearly teaches that men do not come because they "love the darkness rather than the light". If you leave salvation to people who love darkness friend, who will be saved at all? God must save, and God alone friend.
The Bible itself teaches that "narrow is the way, few there are that find it."
prchdaword 2 years ago
I understand your concerns for souls and so does the Calvinist. The difference is that you take that burden upon yourself when it is God who saves, not you. We are God's instruments in proclaiming the Gospel (and not one of easy-believism either!), but that Jesus died for sinners and ANYBODY who trusts in him will not be cast out but will be saved as John 6 teaches. John 6 equally teaches "no one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him..."(6:44,65) . Read ALL of Scripture
prchdaword 2 years ago
no one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him
John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
Terri3210 2 years ago
not sure where you are going with this....
prchdaword 2 years ago
No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him
John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
All men are called; One cannot get to heaven through Jesus apart from obeying Him [Hebrews 5:9]. Those who attempt to enter another way are counted as thieves and robbers and will be unsuccessful [John 10:1]
John 10:9 I am the door:
Terri3210 2 years ago
Curious...but are the ones who never heard of Christ, heard of the promises before Christ even existed physically, or died not ever hearing the Gospel because it never spread to their geographical area centuries later...how were they called? Isn't God ruling all the world and yet he did not provide for many?
And how do we obey Christ? By believing in Him first and foremost....
Seriously...the issue is not Jesus not being the way or the door. I think we agree there.
prchdaword 2 years ago
It's good to see you preaching the truth. There are so few reformers on You Tube, so I rejoice whenever I find videos from people who know the scriptures. I used to like the videos from Oct 30, 1512 (or whatever) but I noticed his account was suspended. I wonder why? Lane is also a great channel featuring Brother Mark. and there's Monty (Red Beetle), too. So the truth is out there if people want to know it. We just have to look a little harder to find it.
NewDirection4us 2 years ago
Oct31st1517 is back, his new account in October31st1517
CASSMAN777 2 years ago
You have started a nice video series here. Keep up the good work. And I have been reading your comments, and they are right on my friend. God Bless.
Haukman66 2 years ago
the Almighty was not the author and sponsor of calvins wicked decision to murder michael servitus -calvin chose to do this and will be held accountable for it - sound like someone who is full of grace and obedient to God....somebody with love in their heart and soul??
tgillspy 3 years ago
oh, here we go! the Servetus argument.
First of all, Michael Servetus walked into Geneva a condemned man already. He was on the run from Roman authorities for holding to Sabellianism. Calvin only charged him with the crime, it was the judicial authorities who put Servetus to death according to the law of the land and church according to the times that they lived in. Calvin pleaded with Servetus to recant and live but Servetus would not. Calvin was not a dictator of Geneva.
prchdaword 3 years ago
The question is this- and it is key issue Does and has God ever revealed anything to us that contraidict what we know about his Son about how we should live-he has revealed his will and it is not man live in rebellion the scripture speaks authority God is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance..john calvin was barbaric and treacherous man and the almighty was not his author and sponsor of his decisions that he had made romans 14 makes this clear
tgillspy 3 years ago
Its like this you don't need to teach some one how to be bad. But you do need to teach them to do the right thing. That what the Holy Ghost does. when you reserve Gods only Son.
TheSearcher24 3 years ago
--Thats way God sent His Only Son to be sin for us. We all first need to repent for our sin, then turn away from our sin with the grace and help of God and His Only Son. You know what I mean.
Yes we have to be born again.
(1Pe 1:23) Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
TheSearcher24 3 years ago
God is not obligated. What I'm saying is that He is a loving God and He wants only the best or only the good things for us. Bad thing happen to us because we chose to do the wrong thing which is sin or other words not chose the right thing. Sin is disobeying what God says is the right thing to do.(Rom 3:20),(1Jn 3:4)--
TheSearcher24 3 years ago
They used this verse to bake them up they use that E.S.V. I use that K.J.V
K.J.V(Jer 17:9) The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
I don't think the read these verse Psa 36:1.
There are verses that say we have the free will to chose who we will serve God or not to. Look at, OR READ (Jos 24:15) we will serve the LORD.
TheSearcher24 3 years ago
Not sure where you're going with the Ps 36:1 verse...
Read Josh 24:15 in context again...what are the choices Joshua is presenting? "And if it seems evil for you to serve the LORD,Choose you this day whom you will serve, whether the gods which your fathers served...or the gods of the Amorites. But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord."
Is Joshua saying that they are free to serve the LORD? Hardly. He is getting afte the people for their idolatry...
prchdaword 3 years ago
he is giving them a choice between the gods of their fathers and the gods of the Amorites. Also, note how he is speaking. He is not speaking doctrinally, but laying out covenant stipulations with the people at Shechem. He has reminded them of all God did for them (v1-13) and in v14 lays out the requirements "Serve the LORD". But if you won't, then choose which gods you will serve is what he is saying.
prchdaword 3 years ago
Point, he is not saying how choices are made, but only that if they will not serve the Lord, then they will serve other gods.
"Free will" is a phrase describing how choices are made "freely" "without cause"; "without determination". This means that we choose without reason. "Free will" does not simply mean "I have a will". Calvinist believe that we have a will; but we believe that we make choices based on the desires of our hearts; either righteous or unrighteous.
prchdaword 3 years ago
If my heart is righteous, then righteous choices will be produced from my will. but if my desires are sinful, then sin will be reflected in and through my choices. Sinners do not make choices APART FROM THEIR SINFUL NATURE; Hence, we are slaves to sin as Jesus himself said in John 8:34 "Truly, truly I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin."
Is a slave free? If sinners are slaves to sin, how can you say that we are free to choose against what we are enslaved to?
prchdaword 3 years ago
I was told form some people that believe in election is that we didn't have a chose in that matter, God chose us.
They say this is why God chose us and we didn't chose Him.
They say that the heart is only evil and can never chose God and so God had to chose for us.
TheSearcher24 3 years ago
yes, God chooses us...but he doesn't save us by "forcing" us to choose him. God still uses ordinary means, like changing the human heart (being born again), faith and repentance, conversion, sanctification, etc....
Yes, the Bible does teach that the heart alone, according to it fallen and depraved state only chooses sin (Gen. 6:4). Even Moses told Israel to pray that God would circumcise their heart, and not merely their flesh because their flesh could not produce life...John 3:6,Rom8:7-8
prchdaword 3 years ago
Gods alway right and good, He's never wrong or bad. (right)So God does not have the free will to do wrong or bad. He only has the free will to do what is good for us.
So Gods Son only had only one chose as in He had to die for us. He never had the chose not to because He cann't chose the wrong thing He could only do the right thing if you know what I mean.
TheSearcher24 3 years ago
but your first mistake is assuming that God is obligated to treat sinners graciously. God is under no such obligation, otherwise, Grace would no longer be grace. God doesn't owe mercy. God could have righteously said, "I won't save anybody at all" and still lose nothing of his character, love or holiness.
God has the freedom of how and when to express his attributes. Your fallacy is obligating God to be gracious equally to all, something clearly not in the Bible.
prchdaword 3 years ago
Gods Son chose to died for us freely.He died #1 For our sins when we were still sinners.#2 He did it so that He wouldn't lose His children, or His people or chosen ones if you would say.
TheSearcher24 3 years ago
yes, Jesus Christ died for us freely...yes. He did for our sins, yup. He did it so that he wouldn't lose His people (Matthew 1:21). Totally agreed. =)
prchdaword 3 years ago
calvinism =fools gold
tgillspy 3 years ago
remember that the doctrine of calvinism reasons about God in manner that contraidicts what he has already revealed in the scripture which is repentance towrd God and faith toward our Lord Jesus christ-therefore calvinism is nothing more than cunning theological system that amounts to "fools gold" declaring God capricious and who acts particular in an arbitrary who himself doesnt desire of the salvation of the whole world for whom he died-this is shown to be error when you study the scriptures
tgillspy 3 years ago
Wow. How is that you want to say that Calvinism is "unscriptural" when it is "Calvinist" (believers in Predestination) that gave us the doctrine of Sola Scriptura (Luther, Zwingli and Calvin)?
Can you tell me which Calvinist has taught against faith and repentance as requirements toward salvation? I'll take it you have never read Calvinist before right? You have probably only read ABOUT CALVINIST FROM NON-CALVINIST, right? Do your own homework my friend.... ;)
prchdaword 3 years ago
Remember:
K.J.V(Rom 3:24) Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
The E.S.V takes out the word freely and changes the verse so that they can have the doctrine of election.
E.S.V(Rom 3:24) and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,
Gods Only Son was elected.!! Meaning that Gods Son didn't not have a chose. The Son of God know what had to be done and He obeyed His Father in heaven.
TheSearcher24 3 years ago
In the Greek, the word there is "chariti" which is from the word "charis" which is translated as "grace". "Grace" certainly implies "freely" or "undeservedly or freely given". Is it your position that what God freely gives, is not God's grace?
God the Son did have a choice and he choose willingly. Is it your position that the Son of God does not have a "free will"?
He obeyed WILLINGLY; not "without a choice". That has implication with the doctrine of the Tirnity.
prchdaword 3 years ago
One question do you believe that The Son of God was and is a free gift? Yes or No
See the thing is that God can not force you to take His free gifted. Because if God did that be taking away free will.
TheSearcher24 3 years ago
Yes, the Son of God is a free gift.
God doesn't "force" anybody to do anything. He merely renews the nature and changes the hearts of people whom he has chosen to redeem from before the foundation of the world. Calvinism does not teach that God "violates a persons free will" to save them...God renews the will and nature of people so that they willingly choose Him from their own desires of their own renewed hearts. This is what happens at regeneration. See Ezek 36:25-27.
prchdaword 3 years ago
adam and eve fell into sin with wilful knowledge it was because they went against their conscience from the moment they listened to the serpent and his deception turning from Gods word to their own folly and shame- it should be noted that the LORD did not predestinate them to this choice because was not a co-conspirator with them- and he did not validate their rebellion and because he is holy and in fact did judge them...this is because God cannot deny his holy nature because he is truth
tgillspy 3 years ago
God demonstrated his love for us in that we were yet sinners Christ died for us.. there are the rebellious angelic creatures -being demons-that that utterly hate Gods creation that want to deceive people concerning his(Gods)holy plan for them and his name is lucifer who is satan-he wants people to reject christ
tgillspy 3 years ago
we agree.
prchdaword 3 years ago
ever since the beginning of creation of the world Adam and Eve fell by disobedience thereby bringing sin into the world-but they fell into it through their choice which was not to listen to what commanded them do and that is why it is such a tragedy ..
tgillspy 3 years ago
agree. But that doesn't negate the fact that God CHOSE to save. And there are many instances in the Bible where He chooses to bless some and not others.
prchdaword 3 years ago