wow those terrorist can torture us and chop our heads off, and make people jump out of buildings but we cant even just waterboarding them?!!!! SUCH IDOITS!!! i would have riped there terrorist fingers off 1 by 1 and worse after the torture those poor innacent people went through!!!!
Let's prosecute Reno and Clinton for Waco and Ruby Ridge!
Watch "Waco -The Rules of Engagement" google it. please, then tell me who is a murderer! oh, wait, Clinton is a democrat, so you will not care what HE did, right?
im really interested in all that's going on right now but it's a little hard to understand because i really don't know enough about the crimes commited by the bush administration, the economy, the war, our relationships with other countries, etc.
does anyone know of any good books, websites, or what have you that would help me to get more informed?
That was lame that they released politically motivated CIA memos in a time of war. Shame on him. At least wait till the war is over before giving away our previous tactics. Lame thing to do.
You think the left is upset about this one? Do you think the ACLU is going nuts? Wait until the middle class & the poor in this country realize that Hope and Change was merely Smoke and Mirrorssocialism causes job losses and wage stagnationthat uncontrolled government debt causes painfull inflation. The Liberals will be fighting Conservatives for pitchforks and torches at the hardware store. Mr. Obama and Biden, may I have more Dijon on my Cheerios?
For e.g. he was ROASTED for saying this at Notre Dame in 1977 when he was invited to speak even tho he is pro-choice, but not black...when he said this:
"We are now free of that inordinate fear of Communism which once led us to embrace any dictator who joined us in our fear."
Apparently lots hated him for saying that...
Ummmm...americans have indeed embraced any dictator who joined you in your fear of terrorism...
Obama last week had one of his talking heads say he wasn't going to prosecute; & in his own words, "..nothing will be gained by spending out time & energy laying blame for the past"
However, with more revelations & public dissent, he had to back-peddle
If he wanted to make right, he would prosecute from the TOP down - Blaming only the lawyers allows compartmentalization of the issue away from top & room for legal wrangling to dump the issue
Gonzales gave a judgeship to Jay C. Bybee in exchange for writing a recommendation for torture; Bybee was given the judgeship for justifying war crimes! And when he did that, he got the judgeship!
The Administration is like a Mob Outfit where you have the CIA destroying innumerable tapes of torture & then investigating itself
Its like America is given tours of the crime scene, but no one is going to be arrested for the crime!
I think the ACLU should start by calling for the US government to denounce FDR and apologizing for his administrations war crimes and detaining American citizens without cause. Or would that be just a little too much to ask? The ACLU is a cowardice organization that plays politics for donations. shameful.
Working w/civil rights attorney Wayne Collins, the Northern California ACLU was one of the few American groups openly opposing the Japanese internment while it was happening. Collins was the head prosecutor in Korematsu v United States, the Supreme Court case that challenged the constitutionality of the detention. Google it.
Watching the press conf. just now...hearing that Obama has decided not to release the photos...
This is what i took from that conference:
They won't release the photos because they pose a threat to the troops AND national security...but they don't believe that this could or should interfere with any investigations going on...
I think they're saying the photos are soooo bad that were they released to the world...oh my, anti-americanism would absolutely go nuts...
Well, if you don't have age going for you (like 30 years of political memories...lol) then i would highly suggest google, and not in a superficial way.
I don't have a very good memory, so i google specifics and find all kinds of actual articles written back in the day...all kinds...and from good publications too...it takes time...but if you look, you will find...and go to MANY sources...critical thinking is key and figuring out the agenda of each writer is key also.
In other words, antidoter, (love the handle), when you google a specific topic and you get the first page of 20 entries...try to look up several...INCLUDING ones which may appear to offer an opposing viewpoint. You can't get at the truth if you don't look at both sides of the fence and hear all the arguments. Some make better arguments than others...some lie more than others...some have a more obvious slant...etc...
The problem is maybe that the people do speak out, but today they do this in internet forums or on YouTube but not on the streets but most politicians just don't see that and still treat YouTube like it was a classical one way medium, even Obama and other people who are considered more progressive.
They obviously still haven't arrived in the 21st century.
wow those terrorist can torture us and chop our heads off, and make people jump out of buildings but we cant even just waterboarding them?!!!! SUCH IDOITS!!! i would have riped there terrorist fingers off 1 by 1 and worse after the torture those poor innacent people went through!!!!
TheMattd546 7 months ago
bostonteapartyagain--and vince foster in there too,hillary was the person on the grassy knoll in that case.
rockriver256 2 years ago
Let's prosecute Reno and Clinton for Waco and Ruby Ridge!
Watch "Waco -The Rules of Engagement" google it. please, then tell me who is a murderer! oh, wait, Clinton is a democrat, so you will not care what HE did, right?
BostonTPartyagain 2 years ago
hey everyone
im really interested in all that's going on right now but it's a little hard to understand because i really don't know enough about the crimes commited by the bush administration, the economy, the war, our relationships with other countries, etc.
does anyone know of any good books, websites, or what have you that would help me to get more informed?
thanks in advance :D
theantidoter 2 years ago
That was lame that they released politically motivated CIA memos in a time of war. Shame on him. At least wait till the war is over before giving away our previous tactics. Lame thing to do.
artformeandyou 2 years ago
You think the left is upset about this one? Do you think the ACLU is going nuts? Wait until the middle class & the poor in this country realize that Hope and Change was merely Smoke and Mirrorssocialism causes job losses and wage stagnationthat uncontrolled government debt causes painfull inflation. The Liberals will be fighting Conservatives for pitchforks and torches at the hardware store. Mr. Obama and Biden, may I have more Dijon on my Cheerios?
Remember the Carter years.
dkkght46 2 years ago
Yup, i remember the carter years.
Horrified that so many americans hated him.
For e.g. he was ROASTED for saying this at Notre Dame in 1977 when he was invited to speak even tho he is pro-choice, but not black...when he said this:
"We are now free of that inordinate fear of Communism which once led us to embrace any dictator who joined us in our fear."
Apparently lots hated him for saying that...
Ummmm...americans have indeed embraced any dictator who joined you in your fear of terrorism...
Opiman000 2 years ago
Obama last week had one of his talking heads say he wasn't going to prosecute; & in his own words, "..nothing will be gained by spending out time & energy laying blame for the past"
However, with more revelations & public dissent, he had to back-peddle
If he wanted to make right, he would prosecute from the TOP down - Blaming only the lawyers allows compartmentalization of the issue away from top & room for legal wrangling to dump the issue
sugarpuddin88 2 years ago
Gonzales gave a judgeship to Jay C. Bybee in exchange for writing a recommendation for torture; Bybee was given the judgeship for justifying war crimes! And when he did that, he got the judgeship!
The Administration is like a Mob Outfit where you have the CIA destroying innumerable tapes of torture & then investigating itself
Its like America is given tours of the crime scene, but no one is going to be arrested for the crime!
sugarpuddin88 2 years ago
I think the ACLU should start by calling for the US government to denounce FDR and apologizing for his administrations war crimes and detaining American citizens without cause. Or would that be just a little too much to ask? The ACLU is a cowardice organization that plays politics for donations. shameful.
alvincay100 2 years ago
Do recall in 1988 there was an official apology and over a billions dollars provided in reparations.
HellWithPoverty 2 years ago
Working w/civil rights attorney Wayne Collins, the Northern California ACLU was one of the few American groups openly opposing the Japanese internment while it was happening. Collins was the head prosecutor in Korematsu v United States, the Supreme Court case that challenged the constitutionality of the detention. Google it.
suzhouhe 2 years ago 2
Watching the press conf. just now...hearing that Obama has decided not to release the photos...
This is what i took from that conference:
They won't release the photos because they pose a threat to the troops AND national security...but they don't believe that this could or should interfere with any investigations going on...
I think they're saying the photos are soooo bad that were they released to the world...oh my, anti-americanism would absolutely go nuts...
Just my take.
Opiman000 2 years ago
absolutely agreed
it's sickening isnt it
theantidoter 2 years ago
Well, if you don't have age going for you (like 30 years of political memories...lol) then i would highly suggest google, and not in a superficial way.
I don't have a very good memory, so i google specifics and find all kinds of actual articles written back in the day...all kinds...and from good publications too...it takes time...but if you look, you will find...and go to MANY sources...critical thinking is key and figuring out the agenda of each writer is key also.
Opiman000 2 years ago
In other words, antidoter, (love the handle), when you google a specific topic and you get the first page of 20 entries...try to look up several...INCLUDING ones which may appear to offer an opposing viewpoint. You can't get at the truth if you don't look at both sides of the fence and hear all the arguments. Some make better arguments than others...some lie more than others...some have a more obvious slant...etc...
Opiman000 2 years ago
it's not what the president wants.. it is if the people will rise and call for justice
nuprincenj 2 years ago 7
exactly
sickliberal 2 years ago 3
The problem is maybe that the people do speak out, but today they do this in internet forums or on YouTube but not on the streets but most politicians just don't see that and still treat YouTube like it was a classical one way medium, even Obama and other people who are considered more progressive.
They obviously still haven't arrived in the 21st century.
DeletedDelusion 2 years ago