The Bomb Cancelled D-smash --Possible 1HKO / gimp--

[IntoTheBlizzard]

-Fox Main-

Eww where's that Fox copter? is not happy lol

[Hydrogen10101]

OMG

[ModestAlex]

Diddy can escape this 100%. No one goes straight into rocket barrel after getting hit that far -_-

[shadowcase]

@ModestAlex True, this was done very fast and so the percentages and groupings are totally preposterous for the most part, so just ignore them. The main point to the video is the technique itself and its possible yet somewhat impractical applications.

[ThiefWill]

Can't you use DI?... It would make it alot more helpful

[shadowcase]

@ThiefWill DI to live? I guess you could but its difficult unless you are Ally or something, plus most people do not prepare for this move. However! You can tech this.

[ThiefWill]

@shadowcase I already tested it with DI you just have to DI it the way you would DI any Dsmash whether its bomb cancelled or not... Sorry

[shadowcase]

@ThiefWill No need to apologize haha. Never really tried out DI for it because I'm not the victim usually : ). Good info.

[deathbysuarez]

do you know if port priority will affect this in any way?

[ZXShadow1]

Some of those character could live like Link. When you press Z with Gamecube controller.

[Sonjeff7]

whats the song name a 5:42?

[dongreatuis]

ahh.

zero suit samus can recover from it. you jus have to do it right

but thanks man. ima put this to good work. muhahah

[1XInfernoX1]

do you need a gc controller to do this or does it work with wii remote/nunchuk?

i can do the invincibomb just not the rest :S

[shadowcase]

@1XInfernoX1 You can do it with the wii-mote. If you can invincibomb then the next step is making sure that you hit the opponent before the bomb hits you. I would invincibomb at the peak of a short hop(right when you start falling) and then down smash immediately when you land. The timing should work out so the bomb stops you from finishing the smash attack and thus allowing the opponent to fly farther.

[DVDV28]

Nup, Lucas can survive

Learn to thunder jump

[xshdwdragunx]

should've shown the ones that can survive go under FD

[whinybigfoot]

most of those jumps back to the ledges could have been provented failures by just waiting just a half a second more... jebus even i know how to bet back on with olimar and duh roy sucks ass he would never make it back up in time unless he was like 6 inches from the line when he used his up b move, and then he may still miss because he is just a beater not a survivor

[MegaBeanz]

marth can survive this loll.

[shadowcase]

It depends if you can pull off a good edge hog. He can make it to the edge, but not the stage.

[redhwk]

lol if you still check the comments I'm having a pretty hard time getting this down, iv been testing it in lowered speeds but i still cant get it any tips?

[shadowcase]

you have to airdodge and drop the bomb by pressing the "A" button and "Z" button at the same time (on a gamecube controller) as you are about to touch back on the ground. You can do it by just dropping the bomb normally, but you need to drift forwards slightly so the bomb explodes slightly behind you.  Keep practicing and you'll get it.

[bombkirby]

Nicely done!

[dutchminator]

Mind if I ask what the names of the used soundtracks are? :D

[Uzimakisensai]

lawl, fox can survive no problem.

a smart fox wouldnt double jump illusion, they'd shine turn around>rising double jump F-air>fire fox

they'd recover just fine.

[shadow1pj]

provide evidence so we can see

[Uzimakisensai]

@shadow1pj i would if i had my recorder, i'll see what i can do.

[burk33]

I love how wario can get gimped if he uses his bike in the wrong direction, that's like saying this gimps MK if he decides to tornado off the side of the blast zone.

[shadowcase]

And that's like saying you didn't read the part that this video isn't accurate and we are going to make another. Please hold judgements off til then.

[SzayelGrantz]

What's the name of the zelda' song?

[shadowcase]

windwaker unplugged by fredde gredde

[Jolly2Lolly]

when i heard the touhou song i recognized it immediately. it's THAT good.

[drewta]

Fun watch. Great job with the clean editing.

[OverlordLaharl2]

question do you have to IAB because a couple of times i saw you just z-dropping

[shadowcase]

You don't have to IAB or i-bomb. You just have to get interrupted by the bomb blast during d-smash and make sure the opponent doesn't get hit by the bomb (sword only). Doing the I-bomb (IAB) makes the bomb drop slightly behind you so the chances of the opponent getting hit by the bomb (and screwing up the AT) are lessened.

[OverlordLaharl2]

oh i see, on your new vid will you show more examples on how to apply this Techin battle

[OverlordLaharl2]

damn still not getting this down i keep doing the flame version of it do you have anymore advice

[deprece2301]

I love the songs. They really add the drama to the video. You should put the names of them in the description.

[shadowcase]

We can only give out names upon request tho--youtube restrictions.

SSBB OST: Subspace Emissary - Battle

Touhou Remix: Hidden Power (by Rage)

SGS OST: Snake Yell (boss battle theme)

Windwaker Unplugged (by fredde gredde)

[mjg7tlink]

Whats the name of the song that starts at 3:00 ?

Good fine by the way

*mjg from SWF*

[shadowcase]

Actually when i found it a while ago, it was hard.

"Hidden Power" is the name

Its a touhou remix done by a group named Rage.

[jamduke]

When you're edgeguarding sometimes you shouldn't jump out immediately but wait for the opponent to come back into range

[shadowcase]

Will do... on the update vid.....

[jamduke]

I think Ivysaur could have gotten on

[shadowcase]

Toon Link just has to tether refresh the razor leaf and Ivy is a gonner.

[PabloZTenerife]

Man thanks for the vid, i understand it very well! thanks:D

5/5

[shadowcase]

we're glad you enjoyed it. Be ready for the update vid... it'll be even better... hopefully ^_^

[ASDisastersama]

I believe marth has more than 0% of being doomed. his forward b has recovery properties too

[shadowcase]

If TL gets the retether right, then marth and mario have 0% chance of sweetspotting the ledge. I posted a discertation on smashboards under the 7'th page of the Original Post.

[mushookie0heimer]

i know youre gonna revise it but i wanna post this anyways...

mario and marth maybe couldve survived if they used sideb correctly..fox definitely couldve survived if he did rising fair. ZSS maybe couldve survived with rising upb and flip footstool jump ( but then time the edgehog less early so she cant footstool you while invincible frames )ivysaur razor leaf. Lucas dont forget Zap Jump. Peach can also use sideb and neutralb for more distance. G&W can also upb>nair>double jump.those might help

[shadowcase]

Already heard all of that from others on youtube or from smashboards.... your comments are appreciated tho. Thanks :D

[NoNsToPuH]

Amazing videooooo 5/5

[TheOnlyGBeast]

ZSS messed up... used the attack part of Down+B

Ivysaur could have razor leaf'd you

Lucario could have very easily wall stuck there, and would have been fine after a wall jump-> air dodge.

Ness failed at recovering

this is way to unreliable

lol @ wario bike fail that cannot possibly be used as a Wario "failing" it because no wario should use his bike like that

again, i think this is VERY unreliable and not practical at all

[shadowcase]

And people can mess up. I mean, it's whatever. It's a technique nonetheless. If you believe in people being perfect 24/7 and being on their toes for a new tech, then yes. Most techniques out there will not work. It really depends on who's perfect with what they do when it comes to this. Anyways, like I said, updated vid coming out. We'll fix the major errors.

[TheOnlyGBeast]

when i say things, i mean assuming everything is done correctly, kinda like a tier list in a sense... but very different

[shadowcase]

haha, I like that. Expect perfection => prepare for the worst. If you can overcome perfection, then you = beast. : )

[TheOnlyGBeast]

hence my tag... G-Beast ^.^

[codefelpnobrain]

If you had hit Pit at all, with a projectile or anything, he would've died. So maybe not ALWAYS making it back.

[shadowcase]

True... but then again, Pit can just not use the up-b, save all 4 jumps well, and glide is the other option. We'll think about it.

[SpookyJaw]

Well at least Spamus can live it <.<, but I believe Zamus has a higher chance of living then that, but meh, like you say, situational.

VERY nice find.

[AngelicSaber]

Too bad all my mains can survive this (unless maybe on a stage where theres water).

Good technique and great tutorial vid though, very detailed! Its not one of those things where its an accident and extremely hard to replicate so people ont make a tutorial for it.

[shadowblazen117]

By the way, what's the name of the songs you used in this video? Good choice because they make it that much more epic =)

[doktadope]

not only do you have to be at the edge of the stage, but you also have to get off that whole setup? This is worthless.

[shadowcase]

It's a technique nonetheless. Sorry I couldn't program the game for you.

[JNig91]

Um, the Wario biked first, then jumped? Definitely has to have a greater chance if he jumps first, then bikes so he has much more vertical.

I'll admit, though, this sure looks pretty scary! I have Hyro and (sometimes) Lee Martin to deal with!

[Teneban]

haha, ggs toon links, it looks greattt :p

[affinity2412]

Cool find. I'm pretty sure Captain Falcon isn't doomed though. You didn't put any horizontal momentum into his Up-B.

[shadowcase]

True, I'll get on to that. This is moreover a beta video to see what people think. The more info. on who can survive, the better the updated ver. will be. Feel free to make videos too and send them to me, credit will given appropriately. Thanks for the critiques. I also thought Capt. Falcon looked off a bit.

[jraucher]

Wolf also can't be gimped this way because he can scar thru the stage. Just by holding down when wolf side b's goes thru objects.=). Glad that tl can destroy other people with this.

[lootic]

Lucas can Zap jump, which probably is quick enough and gets enough height to make him less vulnerable. He also can use his reflector to increase forward momentum from the Zap jump.

[shadowcase]

Already noted a while ago now, and prepping for the update vid. Thanks tho.

[AdmiralPit]

I may not be a TL player, but this is very interesting and very detailed. I like it.