the line thats supposed to be supplying the (magic) fuel is stuck onto the stud that holds the top of the air cleaner cover down. how is it getting fuel if it is plugged off by a bolt?????????????????????????????????????
@mtcentral Metal is porse under a microscope, the Joe cell uses an ion/plamsa energy that can travle threw the block. It is basicly just like a battery but we use the ion/plasma energy rather than the electrons.
@decentralise it is over unity energy. we only use short bursts of positive, the positive ions then attract the freed up electrons long after positive is off cracking the water into an ion/plasma energy.
@Silenced140 actually it is from ormes, i was the first to discover ormes on my cell walls, i also increased some friends fuel mileage with one wire. Watch the lost secrets of the ark to learn the significance of ormes.
@ivylsp If that were actually true then your dumbass website which sells plans would have gone under a long time ago. You're telling me you got all that free energy you need, but you're stuck on youtube selling plans?
@ivylsp IF free energy was true the oil comnpanies would be buying it up as quick as goose snot so they could make the money off it, and people like Joecell would be a multi-billionare.
The oil companies aren't interested and Joecell is broke...'nuff said.
@technicalnoob Water is normally negatively charged. They added current to charge it. That burning with the blue flame is what really got my attention. Some kind of weird energy :)
People are getting IT.....But i just couldnt understand at the first of the Video!!? THE Developing country's are destroying the Planet!!? You mean USA and UK dont you?Because It seems that Other Countrys mostly live with nature for 1000's of years...It is mostly the west that has lost its ways...SO YOU tell me which one is the developing country then.....!!!???
@witchtelus The earth is not flat and we are not the center of the universe, look how far we have come in the last 100 years and you don't believe this? Go look up how science has recently admitted water can have a charge and that that charge can be regained. Because you memorize books does not mean you are smart, if you where you would see something is going on here, just saying.
@Jeocellguy And every fraud and snake oil salesman tries to make himself sound legitimate by appealing to science.
Where's you're Nobel Prize, because if this were true it would be the greatest invention in the entire history of the Universe, and you wouldn't be stuck flogging videos on YouTube.
You're a fraud and a liar, and you know as well as I do that none of this crap your flogging works.
@witchtelus Sorry but you are vastly outdated on this info, your best start to get updated is that science has now admitted energy imparted into water can be regained. The learn how cold fusion is now a proven fact, calm down old timer, lets get the facts strait please before your sadistic like that?
@witchtelus yeah the same type of people that are trying to push this crap are the same time of idiots that tried to tell us heaver than air flight was posable and that we wernt the center of the universe, the nerve of these idiots to try to trump our idioligies and beleafe systems with real work, duhhutet, they cant fool us.
@1liveandlearn11 Nice fallacy of equivocation there. Sorry but using the accomplishments of real science to try to bolster this kind of hucksterism is a lame ploy that's as old as the book. This crap has more in common with snake oil than heavier than air flight.
@witchtelus lol you are so brainwashed its pathetic. You seem to be not understanding there are things we still do not understand, its called new information, and science gets updated with it from time to time. Your is clearly outdated, Google Dr. Mosier-Boss of the US NAVY coldfusion, also Defense Analysis Report
DIA-08-0911-003 13 November 2009
Technology Forecast: Worldwide Research on Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions
@1liveandlearn11 The stuff they showed here is quite easy to re-produce... heck I have even done two of these things as a party gag and a engineering trick. However neither produced anything near enough energy to sustain a reaction let alone generate excess power from it.
@witchtelus part 2: Google Can Water Store Charge?
Kate Ovchinnikova and Gerald H. Pollack* This charge can be regained with one wire from the cell to the negative of a battery, the electrolysis ejects electrons from the water molecules, then the positive ions in the battery attract the freed up electrons, batteries gain in voltage from this, this cracks the water into an ion possible plasma energy.
@witchtelus part 1: The difference between me and you is i have done the work so i know what i am talking about. You however use ideologies and a belief system to back your claims and that does not trump real work.
@1liveandlearn11 No the difference between you and me is that I'm not a loser trying to flog snake oil.
And so far the only one who has made any claims is you... claims that are easily refuted by the laws of physics, and the fact that you're not a billionaire, which you would be if your "Joe Cell" crap actually worked.
You cannot demonstrate a working model in front of actual engineers and scientists who are qualified to critique you, so why should any of us believe you?
@witchtelus part 2: ever hear of splitting an atom? And for me to be a snake oil salesman i would have to be selling something, not offering information freely. I am not going to argue with your ideologies and belief systems. They do not trump my real work and the hundreds of others doing this.
@witchtelus part 1: A millionaire like Pons and Fleishman? Oh that's right they set up a peer review panel of hot fusion scientists who's funding depended on cold fusion not being a reality and their careers where destroyed over something that is now common knowledge, watch the war on cold fusion to learn about suppression, and the laws of physics you are referring to do not apply to quantum mechanics,
@witchtelus By the way google Terrifying scientific discovery: Strange emissions by sun are suddenly mutating matter and see how your precious science can be completely turned on its head, and stop bothering me boy, you are a waist of my time.Like i said people like you would have bet your life we where the center of the universe and heaver than air flight was imposable. You treat science like a religion and fail to see that some info is held from it solely for suppression.
@1liveandlearn11 your argument might hold more credence if you didn't use "waist" (the torso) instead of "waste" (garbage). don't play scientist when you are too dumb to do so. if you weren't, you might use your own language correctly.
@spadehatesscrewtube you know where you can shove your comment, spelling means NOTHING, English could be my 5th language for all you know, it has nothing to do with what i have done and seen. Internet scientist wannabe.
@1liveandlearn11 hah! you're funny, as in dumb. go ahead and point out where i EVER claimed to be a scientist. and language means a hell of a lot when you're attempting to read or draw up blueprints. maybe it's why none of your sh*t works. much less your comebacks.
@spadehatesscrewtube Your ideologies and belief systems don't trump real work. I am sure you have said this about cold fusion as well and it is a fact now, idiots like you have to wait and have your reality dictated to you by your peers. You also would have bet your life heaver than air flight was imposable and we where the center of the universe.
@1liveandlearn11 uhmn, i hate to break this to you, but other than a love of correct spelling and proper diagrams and grammar to communicate efficiently, i have not even MENTIONED my beliefs. what are you so riled up about? i simply implied that maybe whatever you do that doesn't work is perhaps due to your own inability to spell correctly .. thats it. also, again, it's " impossible " not imposable. also heavier, not heaver. and "we're" not where.
@witchtelus i doubled my fuel mileage, if you top learn how, look up ORMES, watch the lost secrets of the ark. the powder on them is not calcium dioxide, calcium dioxide reacts to watter? think about it, connect the dots. DoD and the US NAVY have showed us over unity from watter, lets celebrate that.
@1liveandlearn11 "DoD and the US NAVY have showed us over unity from watter"
Bullshit. Show one peer reviewed paper from DOD or Navy that shows overunity, or even any claim by DOD or Navy that such a thing is possible. You're living in a Harold Camping dreamworld.
@witchtelus google DoD Technology Forecast: Worldwide Research on Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions
Increasing and Gaining Acceptance, and Dr. Mossier-Boss of the US NAVY cold fusion, well your at it google can water store a charge and how that charge can be regained to see just how efficient this can be. And don't waist my time again, people like you have to have your reality dictated to you buy your peers. I have done the work so an not into arguing with your silly belief systems and ideologies.
There are a very few real forms of OU/AE generators out there, from what I've seen, that aren't crap. This is one of them, and it scares the bad guys silly. The original Joe stopped development because he was visited by the Men in Black, and threatened with an accident if he continued.
Developing these technologies is extremely dangerous work.
@petrus4 "The original Joe stopped development because he was visited by the Men in Black, and threatened with an accident if he continued."
Well that's certainly a more dramatic excuse than "dang, it didn't work" which is what really happened. How come the "Men in Black" never visit reputable research labs that make actual discoveries?
The point to this is that you can NEVER revv up a gasoline engine running on gasoline without opening the buttefly in the carburetor and giving the engine more air. Fuel alone does not cause engine acceleration, UNLESS you are using hydrogen/diesel/propane or CNG. These fuels do not need air regulation, the butterly in the carb is wide open (removed) and the fuel volume entering the plenum controls engine speed :)
Gasoline engines will only revv up if you increase air flow. You have to increase air flow in proportion to fuel. You cannot simply add more gasoline and get more RPM, that isn't how it works. Why? Because gasoline only burns between 10:1 and 17.5:1 air/fuel ratio. This is a very narrow range, whereas other fuels don't need precise metering of air, and will continue to revv up when you add pure fuel without adding more air.
Bottom line is that the "alternate energy religion" people will really flock to this, and yet no one actually ever gets the car to run with out petrol.
Anyway, if Joe did come up with it it was a bit of a fluke and not due to to any sort of scientific thought by Joe the backyard mechanic. Once personally pressured, Joe became very reluctant to actually state that he had actually run the trip to Brisbane on his half cup of water. This was more promoted by others and Joe was taken along for the ride.
A bit about Joe. He is actually a bit of half wit, and the legend at the time eventually said he had got it off someone else. There was also the eventual talk of people being followed by strange cars and even an eventual violent clash with said unknown figures who were sent packing with a broken arm. Eventually a particular unscrupulous local also attempted to promote the idea and take advantage of Joe, but of course as it didn't actually run the car on half a cup of water this went no where.
I built one not long after the word had started passing around and it did give my car more power with less throttle, but to get the most out of it an SU style carburettor is required due to the vacuum required.
Funny how the line that started 15+ years ago as "Casino to Brisbane on half a cup of water" has now become "Casino to Brisbane on one and a half cups of water".
I like how the running car coincidentally sounds exactly like it's burning normal gasoline, getting proper compression on all 4 cylinders, and revs up (somehow? since the gas pedal should be inoperative now).
Doubly impressed by a balloon that leaves a fast-evaporating and low-flame puddle behind. Just like gasoline!
Wow! It's almost like they've switched the labels between water and gas containers, but you can take their word for it they didn't!
I don't disagree with you, they may be using gasoline. but, you can still rev up an engine that runs on a gas directly fed into the carb. like putting a hose from a propane tank into the air filter on a carb. all that happens when you push the gas pedal on a carb is that the engine is allowed to suck in more air and fuel vapor. sucking in more fuel is what makes the car rev faster.
They do, why do people say things they dont look into, theres a site where they will teach you how to do this, i doubled my feil milage. It drains electrons and gives you an ion energy.
The most interesting part was about the big gap between religion and science at 2:25, because there starts a paradigm shift thats distorts the approach scientists have to religion.
Scientist begins to exclude God in their world view, teaching evolution and divulging atheism, ... all this because they was angered about the abuse of power of the church. This gap still impede scientists to find the truth about the true nature of our existence!
rgone energy is an alleged energy that was discovered by Wilhelm Reich. Supposedly orgone energy pervades the entire universe, and is the ether that scientists used to believe filled space, and explained things like the transmission of light through a vacuum. It is said that orgone effects everything from a persons mood to the weather. There are people who say that you can pretty easily build a device called an orgone generator that is supposed to collect this energy.
ya all your doing is Force charging the water with + and using the - to do what the battery should do its a ELECTROLYZER producing Hydrogen its still splitting the water. Don't over complicate it. if you put a pos and neg together in any water it splits it . there is Hydrogen and Oxygen in water Orgone is something totally different this has nothing to do with .
Why are there so many stupid people posting on this video or the other hydrogen cell videos. I've built a joe's cell, and can tell you the potential is there.
It just seems like the dumb shits out there that have never built or seen one in person just talk out of their asses.
the "joe cell" is never even connected, see that metal pipe going to the "intake" look closely its connected to the bolt on the top that holds the airbox lid down, with a peice of plastic pipe, so its not even connected. lol
The energy permeates the entire engine block. Its beyond your limited perspective on energy. Keep an open mind, get off your ass and do some research (you know, actually READ something for more than 20 seconds?), you'll be surprised (shocked??) at what you find. Good eye, though! Totally looks hilarious from the classic "transmission of power" viewpoint. I laughed! (its at 1:40 in the vid if anyone wants to see).
this is bull shit the cell turns the water to hydrogen and oxygen both which explodes. as for the water in the air inlet. water does compress just not as easy as other shit and because there is no petrol in it the water just flushes through the system. the only difference will be the compression size due to the water taking up space. simple fucking physics. dickheads
LOL funny to see how many ppl have simple minds that are willing to say "NO this does not work" only because they are told by certain "people" or the media.
This does work and this tech will NEVER be stopped by ANYONE.
I built one of these with my brother-in-law, but we used two to get more power. It really works! It's amazing!! We found that we increased the output TEN TIMES by mixing in salt (lots) with the water we poured in, and then positivizing the water (we found it better than negativizing it) by inserting a positively charged wire into the mixture while it is in the engine. It will need to sit like that for a while, because it takes some time to positivize the water.
LOL there is no such thing as global warming!! It's a bunch of bullshit it is the result of some other phenomena...but my father and I ahve built a joe cell and he figured out how to use it with a fuel injector. He now runs his mustang gt on nothing! And it actually cools the engine!! Until friction takes over and gradually begins to heat the engine! But there is nothing in there!! Nothing it's fucking amazing!
Enough time has passed now for mechanics here in the US to have built some and shown them to other mechanics. There are many car clubs and racing hobbyists. There would be thousands of these operating here by now if they actually worked. The Joe Cell videos are a prank.
I'm a mechanic, and love working with chemistry and engineering. I've actually built a Joe's Cell... you probably haven't. The potential is definitely there.
Why are there so many dumb shits commenting on this video who have never actually made a Joe's Cell?
Guess what mate, im a mechanic aswell VAG trained, and i very much beleive in joe cell technology, but this video doesnt make sense, can you post up some schemantics?
you can learn how to biuld it on the net, you just use 3 minuts of positive at a time, leave the neagative on for the electrons to drain, hook it up to your vaccum intake, it will draw the ions out and into the combustion chamber. By the way you can just use round plates now too, very simple to do. Just rememebr you want the electrons to drain.
Cars running on water is cool. BUT PEOPLE START REALISING THAT THE CLIMATE CRISIS IS FAKE. AL GORE IS JUST A LOOSER WHO DONT KNOWS WHERE HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
What a stroke. Try putting water down the 'carb' of something with higher then a 6:1 compression ratio. lol. And rubber isn't conductive but it is porous. Air cant get out, water can't get out, electrons can which is why the spark plug wire arked to the upper radiator hose, or rather the coolant inside it.
beeing an electronics engineer i am really open minded though realistic and i tend not to believe all this, not because it seems unreal but simply because of the way it is presented. I looked up different sources hoping to find something decent. However all i can find is articles which, instead of trying to explain things, do nothing but talk about history and talk about all that damn sceptisism everywhere. Common sense is evil !!!!
Would love to believe it's true, but it isn't. The project has been active for more than 10 years and yet remains too obscure and no one knows anything about it. If it's true then, ¿Why not go to the media and show your invention to the world? ¿Why not make a real effort to prove it globally?
stanley meyer perfected something similar in the 80's. can see a documentary on google.video that highlights him before he was done. the local news did a story on him after he was done. he is now dead. the revolution will not be televised.
Even 'simple' atomic theory such as the orbitals of electrons were not even really understood even by Niels Bohr around the time of their discovery. I bet he didnt realise there were a set of 4 unique quantum numbers for every electron that surrounds an atom ;) We need support for this science.
why are you people even arcuing?...you can't tell if it's true or not by just looking at a video...that's impossible...the only way to figure out if it's true or not is to replicate the "experiments"...most of you are just claiming things and that's pretty stupid
Stanley Meyers produced a patent for a low input high HHO yielding device. Also Mr Dingle from the Philippines came across the same, but his government was against it because it would end fuel taxes.
Nothing holds long in science. That is the beauty of science - NEW discoveries. You don't still beleive the Earth is flat do you? Orgone energy is here. Thank you Wilhelm Reich. A way to save the earth without people profiting from it. People working together for the betterment of planet Earth and each other. Next step is true interstallar travel at light speed and beyond.
Another Cool thing about the Joe Cell is, try and google it, "Joe Cell Fraud" or something like that. You turn up with no results. That's interesting,...
It is very interesting indeed. I believe in testing things thoroughly - as does any scientist. But I have a habit of believing things that most people wouldn't. That's not to say I'd buy an expensive device without testing it. However, in terms of the Joe Cell, it is a strange phenomenon that is extremely difficult to explain by our current understanding of the world.
Wow! They talked more about politics, than about the actual science behind it! It must work then!
Sorry, but oil companies, etc, don't have the power/abilities to cover-up actual free-energy tech. Notice how these guys never prove it works, or get any scientific claims peer-reviewed?
Anybody that's passed 8th grade chem/physics courses can explain how this is bullshit. Nice fantasy, but that doesn't mean it's reality.
I completely understand zero-point energy, and even the Casimir Effect. Are you saying that right there, in his motor, some guy was able to create a perfect vacuum, then somehow also get enough energy from it to power his car engine? Let him prove it. Simple enough. He doesn't even need to explain it. Just provide conclusive proof, instead of marketing it like this.
okay you've got a point there he doesn't proves a thing but I just wanted to point out that the joe cell is bassed on zero point energy atleast from my understanding of it... from all what I've read about it... but this technology is still in his baby fase anyway so I much rather go with the steorn technology which is even harder to explain cause it is a direct violation of the principle of conservation of energy
Read the 7 signs of voodoo science. Both Byron and Steorn fit all the characteristics. The bottom line, is that neither of them has provided a single shred of verified, legitimate evidence, and are actually going out of their way to do so. Not so, in regards to taking investor's money...
Mad scientists, working in a garage are great at innovating with existing tech, but not making new breakthroughs...
AFter checking out the comment section under your profile section, Hyperkinetic, looks like someone needs a little love in their life.. LOL..Here, i'll buy you a tank of gas for your car :)
This pointless rant is still going on? After that idiotic comment about hydrogen not having more potential energy than oil, was more than enough to prove Hyper-K is simply an idiot. People...get on with your lives! Skeptics go no where, those with vision and drive, do! Move on!
By the above chart, gasious hydrogen has only 4.5% of the energy density of gasoline. Face it. You don't know JACK SHIT. Skeptics get to the TRUTH. Skeptics aren't sheep who believe what they are fed. Assholes like you do NOTHING but talk out their ass.
Oh man, someone call NASA and tell them to stop using HYDROGEN to power their shuttles and make the switch to gasoline....lol...again, useless. The efforts you put in debunking these joecell projects is simply amusing. It is expected to have skeptics...and yes, being skeptic is good sometimes...it keeps you safe. :P
Nice straw man argument. Comparing the shuttle (which uses and entirely DIFFERENT form of propulsion) with a scam artists junk prop. The fact is you've never tried to make one of these devices because if you had you'd KNOW it doesn't produce more energy than it consumes.
Right. And all the your personal data regarding the operation of the joecell backs your fraud and sham claims. You've been ranting about it for days and yet never provided any links or data yourself that the device is non-operable.
"Assholes like you do NOTHING but talk out their ass." Look who's talking. LOL...Just stop with all the disinformation...you gotta realize some time, you've lost any kind of credibility a long time ago..I've read your other rants. Give it a rest..you're done.
Precicely what part of what I said is 'misinformation'. I defy you to PROVE any part of what I said as such. The way you and Servant2lord are protecting this junk, you must be a couple of dirty crook scam artists behind it. Keep it up. With any luck you'll end up like Stanley Meyer.
"Protecting this junk"? It is not the device itself I am protecting...I am standing for those who work to improve our world. Be it that a joecell, or any other device that will provide humanity with free energy, I will completely support. Now regarding your little threat about myself ending up like Stanley Meyer, thanks for pointing out that was murdered and did not die of an accident as claimed. Keep making threats.
Your intentions are good, but as the saying goes, the road to hell is paved with those. Why don't you put your support behind something that actually WORKS? There will never be free energy like this, but there are plenty of renewable technologies that do. As for Stanley Meyer, he died of a cerebral aneurysm. He was NOT murdered.
Skeptics are the REAL free thinkers. Skeptics don't blindly swallow the bullshit they're fead. Being Skeptical means requiring PROOF when liars like you open their mouths.
Sceptics often those with narrow minds who parrot their teachers who in turn parrot theirs. They may get a good grade and a pat on the head at school but they'll never innovate anything or make a serendipitous discovery because they're blind to possibility and often think they know much better if not all. The Semmelweis Reflex is something they ooze. If you don't like what other doing take a hike.
Nah, I don't think I will 'take a hike'. You're contradicting yourself. Skeptics have an open mind, but they don't BLINDLY accept anything they're told. Skepticism is a method of obtaining knowledge through systematic doubt and continual testing. In other words, something isn't true until it's been PROVEN to be true. Where is the PROOF that this thing works?
Oh yeah, I don't know BNE. Also I've never seen a working Joe Cell myself, but as its dealing with a kind of life-energy I'm not surprised not everyone can get a cell to work (mood,environment,etc.). In any case people, build your own and report results! If you suspect its all BS, read some of James DeMeo's results with cloudbusting (Orgone-tech) in Israel, he broke some rainfall records with it. Dont forget Wilhelm Reich.
People please also note that this allegations of "perpetuum mobiles" is a load of fud. I really don't see how you could short-circuit a Joe Cell (feed out-to-in). Also, if this were true, every human would be a Perpetuum Mobile. We're not. Life is on earth is in part possible thanks to our Sun. We, Joe cells, and the entire earth gets its energy from the sun, and where the sun gets it... God knows.
I agree, perpetual motion is complete fabrication, and so is this theory of life energy and all the other crazy theories...
The current status of this 'new energy source' is nobody knows yet, there have yet to be any decent scientific evidence supporting how it works and yet I haven't seen anyone debunking it either.
Biggest mystery: why, after almost a year, is this still a mystery?
Hmm, You mean the Joe-Cell mystery? I saw suggestions it's been around since the 80s, most certainly since the 90s (Joe's videos from 1993, etc).
I first saw Alex Schiffer write this was an Orgone accumulator, the specs seem to corroborate this (Wilhelm Reich used inorganic and organic layers too in his accumulators).
Anyway, the FDA didn't like Reich's work, some of the same seems to be going on with Joe's work. Life energy? sounds esoteric doesn't it?
Oh give it a fucking rest. No one has suppressed this bullshit. The reason no one is using it is because it DOESN'T WORK. It's a SCAM, and you're a dirty SCAMMER. Keep it up, someday your word here will finally land you in jail.
Don't be a fucking MORON! This is nothing more than a SCAM. Water is NOT a fuel. If it were then the oil companies wouldn't even exist! There is no discovery here, just FRAUD and assholes like YOU who support it.
Sorry, you're WRONG there too. Hydrogen IS NOT A FUEL!!! It is a means of transporting energy, but does NOT have energy of it's own. It takes more than TWICE as much energy to make hydrogen from water than you'll EVER get out. Also, hydrogen has the LOWEST energy density of all currently used fuels. Now you know.
Ignorant asshole. You know NOTHING. Fuel is any material that is capable of releasing energy when its chemical or physical structure is changed or converted through chemical or electrochemical means. If hydrogen were a fuel, then it's chemical structure would be changed. Hydrogen is ELEMENTAL. It CAN NOT be changed. It can only be used to form another compound.
"Also, hydrogen has the LOWEST energy density of all currently used fuels. Now you know." Hyperkinetic - Where are you getting your information from? Classic act of disinformation...or even better, great example of what happens when our government cuts funding from education...LOL
Figures a moronic follower robot like you would not be intelligent enough to verify, or at least do the research to refute my claims. The only people spreading misinformation is YOU. When it comes to technology, I am a GURU. I've rebuilt engines, built electric bikes, put together my own solar and wind generator. WTF have you done other that show your ignorance?
Go to Wikipedia and look up hydrogen. Scroll down to the section "Hydrogen as an energy carrier". It reads in short "Hydrogen is not an energy source, since it is not an abundant natural resource and more energy is used to produce it than can be ultimately extracted from it." YOU are the misinformant! YOU are the product of crappy schools. I attended private school through grade school, and a science magnet in high school. My education has NEVER stopped. Clearly, yours never started. Moron.
Dude, you should chill out. You're making yourself look like a pretentious ass. Private schools don't make you any more intelligent than the next guy, look at Edison(barely had any formal education.) And if you are so educated and intellectually endowed, why are you quoting Wikipedia?
Pretentious ass? Maybe so. And you're right, private schools don't necessarily MAKE you more intelligent, but smaller classes mean more individual attention, and better pay generally attracts better teachers. When I transitioned from private to public, I was advanced a grade soley on how I tested.
I see nothing wrong with Wikipedia. It's peer reviewed not unlike the scientific community does. Defacements and inaccuracies rarely last more than a few minutes. I hear lots of deniers bash Wikipedia, but they never cite any examples of it's alleged inaccuracy. So what EXACTLY is your issue with it?
Oh, and don't lose sight of the fact that Britannica has been at this since 1768, and Wikipedia has it nearly matched. Add to that the fact the Wikipedia has Britannica blown out of the water in the sheer number of articles. I don't take every Wikipedia article as absolute fact, but for exploring new subject matter or as a source of refrences for further reading it's really hard to beat.
Yes, theis SCAM has been around since the 80's. All those who have perpetrated it on those ignorant fools who believed are either in prison or dead at the hand of those they ripped off.
I believe it! I've made a few orgonite cloudbusters and they work! There's no reason to doubt something that no one is trying to make money off of. I love experimenting anyways. Skeptics lack hope.
"There's no reason to doubt something that no one is trying to make money off of." They are trying to make money off of it genius. Via supplies, plans and donations available on their website.
The reason they NEVER tell you is because they want to sell you the plans! then they slip into the night before you discover you've been sold a bill of goods!
Its funny how the only person to really get this thing working has abandoned all progress due to threats from anonymous people. What a coincidence. Capitalism would never let a technology like THIS be repressed. Byron says they "make energy for free" but yet they need donations.
check out my one wire vid to save money on fuel, my gift to humanity, when you try it and it works for you come back and thumbs me up.
jocell202 1 month ago in playlist joe cell
one would have to tune the engine to the cell or vise versa?
azman67 3 months ago
please make the sound on your video louder
Hungerwolf419 4 months ago
where is the how-to(-prove)?
sworteu 9 months ago
the line thats supposed to be supplying the (magic) fuel is stuck onto the stud that holds the top of the air cleaner cover down. how is it getting fuel if it is plugged off by a bolt?????????????????????????????????????
mtcentral 9 months ago
@mtcentral Metal is porse under a microscope, the Joe cell uses an ion/plamsa energy that can travle threw the block. It is basicly just like a battery but we use the ion/plasma energy rather than the electrons.
1liveandlearn11 9 months ago
Kangan water?
vseae15o 10 months ago
Is this this what they call Kangan water--drinkable?
vseae15o 10 months ago
i doubled my fuel milage
Jeocellguy 11 months ago
@Jeocellguy Bullshit
witchtelus 8 months ago
If water can burn why should you still want to make a device like a Joe Cell?
decentralise 1 year ago
@decentralise it is over unity energy. we only use short bursts of positive, the positive ions then attract the freed up electrons long after positive is off cracking the water into an ion/plasma energy.
Jeocellguy 11 months ago
@Jeocellguy Overunity is bullshit. You would do well to take a few high school physics courses.
Anyways, why are you still here? Didn't you get raptured yesterday?
witchtelus 8 months ago
Orgone :)
Silenced140 1 year ago
@Silenced140 actually it is from ormes, i was the first to discover ormes on my cell walls, i also increased some friends fuel mileage with one wire. Watch the lost secrets of the ark to learn the significance of ormes.
Jeocellguy 11 months ago
i love it !
vox1philippines 1 year ago
The Oil companies are trying their best to stop free energy ideas from spreading to common ppl.
We need to put an end to this corruption ,start generating your own electricity now.
Visit LT-MAGNET-MOTORdotCOM and get the blueprints . Join the Revolution!!
ivylsp 1 year ago
@ivylsp If that were actually true then your dumbass website which sells plans would have gone under a long time ago. You're telling me you got all that free energy you need, but you're stuck on youtube selling plans?
kossxf 1 year ago
@ivylsp It's not just the oil companies. Our federal government is the biggest profiteer of oil more so than every oil company combined.
Brando2290 11 months ago
@ivylsp IF free energy was true the oil comnpanies would be buying it up as quick as goose snot so they could make the money off it, and people like Joecell would be a multi-billionare.
The oil companies aren't interested and Joecell is broke...'nuff said.
witchtelus 8 months ago
What means negative charged water?? How to do that??
technicalnoob 1 year ago
@technicalnoob Water is normally negatively charged. They added current to charge it. That burning with the blue flame is what really got my attention. Some kind of weird energy :)
Silenced140 1 year ago
@Silenced140
Yeah it's almost as if they used alcohol instead of water....
Why are people so gullible?
witchtelus 10 months ago
@technicalnoob go to my page to learn more.
Jeocellguy 11 months ago
This shit aint dangerous send the men im black at least ill get there fucking names cowards watch my videos i explain implosion
First one to kill me wins
MrCletushowell 1 year ago
People are getting IT.....But i just couldnt understand at the first of the Video!!? THE Developing country's are destroying the Planet!!? You mean USA and UK dont you?Because It seems that Other Countrys mostly live with nature for 1000's of years...It is mostly the west that has lost its ways...SO YOU tell me which one is the developing country then.....!!!???
Ebdan88 1 year ago
Here we are in the 21st century, and there's still people who believe this crap. Go figure.
witchtelus 1 year ago
@witchtelus The earth is not flat and we are not the center of the universe, look how far we have come in the last 100 years and you don't believe this? Go look up how science has recently admitted water can have a charge and that that charge can be regained. Because you memorize books does not mean you are smart, if you where you would see something is going on here, just saying.
Jeocellguy 11 months ago
@Jeocellguy And every fraud and snake oil salesman tries to make himself sound legitimate by appealing to science.
Where's you're Nobel Prize, because if this were true it would be the greatest invention in the entire history of the Universe, and you wouldn't be stuck flogging videos on YouTube.
You're a fraud and a liar, and you know as well as I do that none of this crap your flogging works.
witchtelus 10 months ago
@witchtelus Sorry but you are vastly outdated on this info, your best start to get updated is that science has now admitted energy imparted into water can be regained. The learn how cold fusion is now a proven fact, calm down old timer, lets get the facts strait please before your sadistic like that?
Jeocellguy 10 months ago
@witchtelus yeah the same type of people that are trying to push this crap are the same time of idiots that tried to tell us heaver than air flight was posable and that we wernt the center of the universe, the nerve of these idiots to try to trump our idioligies and beleafe systems with real work, duhhutet, they cant fool us.
1liveandlearn11 9 months ago
@1liveandlearn11 Nice fallacy of equivocation there. Sorry but using the accomplishments of real science to try to bolster this kind of hucksterism is a lame ploy that's as old as the book. This crap has more in common with snake oil than heavier than air flight.
witchtelus 9 months ago
@witchtelus lol you are so brainwashed its pathetic. You seem to be not understanding there are things we still do not understand, its called new information, and science gets updated with it from time to time. Your is clearly outdated, Google Dr. Mosier-Boss of the US NAVY coldfusion, also Defense Analysis Report
DIA-08-0911-003 13 November 2009
Technology Forecast: Worldwide Research on Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions
Increasing and Gaining Acceptance
1liveandlearn11 9 months ago
@1liveandlearn11 The stuff they showed here is quite easy to re-produce... heck I have even done two of these things as a party gag and a engineering trick. However neither produced anything near enough energy to sustain a reaction let alone generate excess power from it.
smalltime0 9 months ago
@smalltime0 You did basic electrolysis, not negatively charged cells, see below for explanation.
1liveandlearn11 9 months ago
@witchtelus part 2: Google Can Water Store Charge?
Kate Ovchinnikova and Gerald H. Pollack* This charge can be regained with one wire from the cell to the negative of a battery, the electrolysis ejects electrons from the water molecules, then the positive ions in the battery attract the freed up electrons, batteries gain in voltage from this, this cracks the water into an ion possible plasma energy.
1liveandlearn11 9 months ago
@witchtelus part 1: The difference between me and you is i have done the work so i know what i am talking about. You however use ideologies and a belief system to back your claims and that does not trump real work.
1liveandlearn11 9 months ago
@1liveandlearn11 No the difference between you and me is that I'm not a loser trying to flog snake oil.
And so far the only one who has made any claims is you... claims that are easily refuted by the laws of physics, and the fact that you're not a billionaire, which you would be if your "Joe Cell" crap actually worked.
You cannot demonstrate a working model in front of actual engineers and scientists who are qualified to critique you, so why should any of us believe you?
witchtelus 9 months ago
@witchtelus part 2: ever hear of splitting an atom? And for me to be a snake oil salesman i would have to be selling something, not offering information freely. I am not going to argue with your ideologies and belief systems. They do not trump my real work and the hundreds of others doing this.
1liveandlearn11 9 months ago
@witchtelus part 1: A millionaire like Pons and Fleishman? Oh that's right they set up a peer review panel of hot fusion scientists who's funding depended on cold fusion not being a reality and their careers where destroyed over something that is now common knowledge, watch the war on cold fusion to learn about suppression, and the laws of physics you are referring to do not apply to quantum mechanics,
1liveandlearn11 9 months ago
@witchtelus By the way google Terrifying scientific discovery: Strange emissions by sun are suddenly mutating matter and see how your precious science can be completely turned on its head, and stop bothering me boy, you are a waist of my time.Like i said people like you would have bet your life we where the center of the universe and heaver than air flight was imposable. You treat science like a religion and fail to see that some info is held from it solely for suppression.
1liveandlearn11 9 months ago
@1liveandlearn11 your argument might hold more credence if you didn't use "waist" (the torso) instead of "waste" (garbage). don't play scientist when you are too dumb to do so. if you weren't, you might use your own language correctly.
spadehatesscrewtube 8 months ago
@spadehatesscrewtube you know where you can shove your comment, spelling means NOTHING, English could be my 5th language for all you know, it has nothing to do with what i have done and seen. Internet scientist wannabe.
1liveandlearn11 8 months ago
@1liveandlearn11 hah! you're funny, as in dumb. go ahead and point out where i EVER claimed to be a scientist. and language means a hell of a lot when you're attempting to read or draw up blueprints. maybe it's why none of your sh*t works. much less your comebacks.
spadehatesscrewtube 8 months ago
@spadehatesscrewtube Your ideologies and belief systems don't trump real work. I am sure you have said this about cold fusion as well and it is a fact now, idiots like you have to wait and have your reality dictated to you by your peers. You also would have bet your life heaver than air flight was imposable and we where the center of the universe.
1liveandlearn11 8 months ago
@1liveandlearn11 uhmn, i hate to break this to you, but other than a love of correct spelling and proper diagrams and grammar to communicate efficiently, i have not even MENTIONED my beliefs. what are you so riled up about? i simply implied that maybe whatever you do that doesn't work is perhaps due to your own inability to spell correctly .. thats it. also, again, it's " impossible " not imposable. also heavier, not heaver. and "we're" not where.
spadehatesscrewtube 8 months ago
@witchtelus i doubled my fuel mileage, if you top learn how, look up ORMES, watch the lost secrets of the ark. the powder on them is not calcium dioxide, calcium dioxide reacts to watter? think about it, connect the dots. DoD and the US NAVY have showed us over unity from watter, lets celebrate that.
1liveandlearn11 8 months ago
@1liveandlearn11 "i doubled my fuel mileage"
No you didn't
witchtelus 8 months ago
@1liveandlearn11 "DoD and the US NAVY have showed us over unity from watter"
Bullshit. Show one peer reviewed paper from DOD or Navy that shows overunity, or even any claim by DOD or Navy that such a thing is possible. You're living in a Harold Camping dreamworld.
witchtelus 8 months ago
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@witchtelus google DoD Technology Forecast: Worldwide Research on Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions
Increasing and Gaining Acceptance, and Dr. Mossier-Boss of the US NAVY cold fusion, well your at it google can water store a charge and how that charge can be regained to see just how efficient this can be. And don't waist my time again, people like you have to have your reality dictated to you buy your peers. I have done the work so an not into arguing with your silly belief systems and ideologies.
1liveandlearn11 8 months ago
Replications arent common?.... Thats a fucking lie
clubcalichad20 1 year ago
There are a very few real forms of OU/AE generators out there, from what I've seen, that aren't crap. This is one of them, and it scares the bad guys silly. The original Joe stopped development because he was visited by the Men in Black, and threatened with an accident if he continued.
Developing these technologies is extremely dangerous work.
petrus4 1 year ago
@petrus4
How do you know that this is one of them?
kossxf 1 year ago
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@petrus4 "The original Joe stopped development because he was visited by the Men in Black, and threatened with an accident if he continued."
Well that's certainly a more dramatic excuse than "dang, it didn't work" which is what really happened. How come the "Men in Black" never visit reputable research labs that make actual discoveries?
witchtelus 9 months ago
The point to this is that you can NEVER revv up a gasoline engine running on gasoline without opening the buttefly in the carburetor and giving the engine more air. Fuel alone does not cause engine acceleration, UNLESS you are using hydrogen/diesel/propane or CNG. These fuels do not need air regulation, the butterly in the carb is wide open (removed) and the fuel volume entering the plenum controls engine speed :)
supermuble 1 year ago
Gasoline engines will only revv up if you increase air flow. You have to increase air flow in proportion to fuel. You cannot simply add more gasoline and get more RPM, that isn't how it works. Why? Because gasoline only burns between 10:1 and 17.5:1 air/fuel ratio. This is a very narrow range, whereas other fuels don't need precise metering of air, and will continue to revv up when you add pure fuel without adding more air.
supermuble 1 year ago
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supermuble 1 year ago
alternate energy religion XD we prefer to be called "non-sheeple"
KKinsane2009 2 years ago
Bottom line is that the "alternate energy religion" people will really flock to this, and yet no one actually ever gets the car to run with out petrol.
MajorMess67 2 years ago
I doubled my fuel milage.
1freedomfighter11 2 years ago
Anyway, if Joe did come up with it it was a bit of a fluke and not due to to any sort of scientific thought by Joe the backyard mechanic. Once personally pressured, Joe became very reluctant to actually state that he had actually run the trip to Brisbane on his half cup of water. This was more promoted by others and Joe was taken along for the ride.
MajorMess67 2 years ago
A bit about Joe. He is actually a bit of half wit, and the legend at the time eventually said he had got it off someone else. There was also the eventual talk of people being followed by strange cars and even an eventual violent clash with said unknown figures who were sent packing with a broken arm. Eventually a particular unscrupulous local also attempted to promote the idea and take advantage of Joe, but of course as it didn't actually run the car on half a cup of water this went no where.
MajorMess67 2 years ago
I built one not long after the word had started passing around and it did give my car more power with less throttle, but to get the most out of it an SU style carburettor is required due to the vacuum required.
MajorMess67 2 years ago
Funny how the line that started 15+ years ago as "Casino to Brisbane on half a cup of water" has now become "Casino to Brisbane on one and a half cups of water".
MajorMess67 2 years ago
Peey Ferral! Thats the Janes Addiction singer.!
obscene182 2 years ago
Thats rubbing alchohol in the balloon. Negative charged water my ass!
mdivinc 2 years ago
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CZ3ro 2 years ago
I like how the running car coincidentally sounds exactly like it's burning normal gasoline, getting proper compression on all 4 cylinders, and revs up (somehow? since the gas pedal should be inoperative now).
Doubly impressed by a balloon that leaves a fast-evaporating and low-flame puddle behind. Just like gasoline!
Wow! It's almost like they've switched the labels between water and gas containers, but you can take their word for it they didn't!
jbxenia 2 years ago
I don't disagree with you, they may be using gasoline. but, you can still rev up an engine that runs on a gas directly fed into the carb. like putting a hose from a propane tank into the air filter on a carb. all that happens when you push the gas pedal on a carb is that the engine is allowed to suck in more air and fuel vapor. sucking in more fuel is what makes the car rev faster.
Naprelan 2 years ago
what a load of S!@#, that metho can burn!
IsItTrue99 2 years ago
If its free why don't they just give it away!
capnkrik1 3 years ago
They do, why do people say things they dont look into, theres a site where they will teach you how to do this, i doubled my feil milage. It drains electrons and gives you an ion energy.
1freedomfighter1 3 years ago
wich site I want to build one, please can you help me.
teresahorno 2 years ago
look up you joe cell DIY
SanderBalski 2 years ago
The most interesting part was about the big gap between religion and science at 2:25, because there starts a paradigm shift thats distorts the approach scientists have to religion.
Scientist begins to exclude God in their world view, teaching evolution and divulging atheism, ... all this because they was angered about the abuse of power of the church. This gap still impede scientists to find the truth about the true nature of our existence!
similarvoid 3 years ago
oh "IMPARTIAL OBSERVER" say no more
kossxf 3 years ago
rgone energy is an alleged energy that was discovered by Wilhelm Reich. Supposedly orgone energy pervades the entire universe, and is the ether that scientists used to believe filled space, and explained things like the transmission of light through a vacuum. It is said that orgone effects everything from a persons mood to the weather. There are people who say that you can pretty easily build a device called an orgone generator that is supposed to collect this energy.
Vistal1 3 years ago
Its just exiting the atoms and leaving the negative on so the electrons drain, it's an ion energy not rgone.
1freedomfighter1 3 years ago
ya all your doing is Force charging the water with + and using the - to do what the battery should do its a ELECTROLYZER producing Hydrogen its still splitting the water. Don't over complicate it. if you put a pos and neg together in any water it splits it . there is Hydrogen and Oxygen in water Orgone is something totally different this has nothing to do with .
Vistal1 3 years ago
Why are there so many stupid people posting on this video or the other hydrogen cell videos. I've built a joe's cell, and can tell you the potential is there.
It just seems like the dumb shits out there that have never built or seen one in person just talk out of their asses.
AnarchologyDOTorg 3 years ago
the "joe cell" is never even connected, see that metal pipe going to the "intake" look closely its connected to the bolt on the top that holds the airbox lid down, with a peice of plastic pipe, so its not even connected. lol
Jolinator 3 years ago
It doesn't need to be, read the designs
brightanswers 3 years ago
connecting it the way its connected is equivilent to putting a bolt in the end of the hose, its just to decive people that its connected.
Jolinator 3 years ago
The energy permeates the entire engine block. Its beyond your limited perspective on energy. Keep an open mind, get off your ass and do some research (you know, actually READ something for more than 20 seconds?), you'll be surprised (shocked??) at what you find. Good eye, though! Totally looks hilarious from the classic "transmission of power" viewpoint. I laughed! (its at 1:40 in the vid if anyone wants to see).
JayCadilak 3 years ago
this is bull shit the cell turns the water to hydrogen and oxygen both which explodes. as for the water in the air inlet. water does compress just not as easy as other shit and because there is no petrol in it the water just flushes through the system. the only difference will be the compression size due to the water taking up space. simple fucking physics. dickheads
markwordsworth 3 years ago
i hope tax problems and political issues don't kill us all one day.
namaste
durbanpoison2 3 years ago
LOL funny to see how many ppl have simple minds that are willing to say "NO this does not work" only because they are told by certain "people" or the media.
This does work and this tech will NEVER be stopped by ANYONE.
KrimReefa 3 years ago
I built one of these with my brother-in-law, but we used two to get more power. It really works! It's amazing!! We found that we increased the output TEN TIMES by mixing in salt (lots) with the water we poured in, and then positivizing the water (we found it better than negativizing it) by inserting a positively charged wire into the mixture while it is in the engine. It will need to sit like that for a while, because it takes some time to positivize the water.
enque01 4 years ago
Lol this is hilarious!
An active attempt to kill suckers! hahaha
enque01 4 years ago
What happens when a well made cell runs on a high rpm motorbike engine running at around 18000rpm?
Kitt0000 4 years ago
it blows up and shoot boilin hot water and hydrogen in ur face
godlymofo 4 years ago
LOL there is no such thing as global warming!! It's a bunch of bullshit it is the result of some other phenomena...but my father and I ahve built a joe cell and he figured out how to use it with a fuel injector. He now runs his mustang gt on nothing! And it actually cools the engine!! Until friction takes over and gradually begins to heat the engine! But there is nothing in there!! Nothing it's fucking amazing!
XTCinmee 4 years ago
There IS NO SUCH THINGS AS GLOBAL WARMING.
I'm with you on that!
Comes down to increasing TAX on everything eliminating the middle class.
The777truth 3 years ago
What a bunch of wasters.
porcupine34 4 years ago
exactly...people are so eaisily fooled
frosty956 4 years ago
just try it!
sushi77 4 years ago 6
@sushi77 I did, it works, i also know how and why it works.
1freedomfighter11 1 year ago
Enough time has passed now for mechanics here in the US to have built some and shown them to other mechanics. There are many car clubs and racing hobbyists. There would be thousands of these operating here by now if they actually worked. The Joe Cell videos are a prank.
newranger2 4 years ago
I'm a mechanic, and love working with chemistry and engineering. I've actually built a Joe's Cell... you probably haven't. The potential is definitely there.
Why are there so many dumb shits commenting on this video who have never actually made a Joe's Cell?
AnarchologyDOTorg 3 years ago
Guess what mate, im a mechanic aswell VAG trained, and i very much beleive in joe cell technology, but this video doesnt make sense, can you post up some schemantics?
Jolinator 3 years ago
you can learn how to biuld it on the net, you just use 3 minuts of positive at a time, leave the neagative on for the electrons to drain, hook it up to your vaccum intake, it will draw the ions out and into the combustion chamber. By the way you can just use round plates now too, very simple to do. Just rememebr you want the electrons to drain.
1freedomfighter1 3 years ago
Cars running on water is cool. BUT PEOPLE START REALISING THAT THE CLIMATE CRISIS IS FAKE. AL GORE IS JUST A LOOSER WHO DONT KNOWS WHERE HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
EducateYourselfOrg 4 years ago
EducateYourselfOrg: Your spelling and grammatical errors alone contradict your purpose.
kossxf 4 years ago
Hahaha Why don't you take advice from your username?! Irony is awesome!!
scienceguy2406 4 years ago
wat so u think al gore is the person who invented climate change omg ur a idiot
godlymofo 4 years ago
Balloney. Are you saying that these dudes are burning water, by passing some electricty through it? B.S.
Look at the flame, they are buring Alcohol by filling it into the balloon.
seshkanuri 4 years ago
exactly.. it's friggen metho... these guys are retards.
jumanous 4 years ago
What a stroke. Try putting water down the 'carb' of something with higher then a 6:1 compression ratio. lol. And rubber isn't conductive but it is porous. Air cant get out, water can't get out, electrons can which is why the spark plug wire arked to the upper radiator hose, or rather the coolant inside it.
lazzer408 4 years ago
i know were proof is but i cant right the url :((
jamessteely 4 years ago
beeing an electronics engineer i am really open minded though realistic and i tend not to believe all this, not because it seems unreal but simply because of the way it is presented. I looked up different sources hoping to find something decent. However all i can find is articles which, instead of trying to explain things, do nothing but talk about history and talk about all that damn sceptisism everywhere. Common sense is evil !!!!
lenx82 4 years ago
Would love to believe it's true, but it isn't. The project has been active for more than 10 years and yet remains too obscure and no one knows anything about it. If it's true then, ¿Why not go to the media and show your invention to the world? ¿Why not make a real effort to prove it globally?
Two letters. BS.
michetox 4 years ago
stanley meyer perfected something similar in the 80's. can see a documentary on google.video that highlights him before he was done. the local news did a story on him after he was done. he is now dead. the revolution will not be televised.
kjdyatta 4 years ago
also see news clip of Denny klein hho gas maker on youtube.
kjdyatta 4 years ago
Even 'simple' atomic theory such as the orbitals of electrons were not even really understood even by Niels Bohr around the time of their discovery. I bet he didnt realise there were a set of 4 unique quantum numbers for every electron that surrounds an atom ;) We need support for this science.
nmorphew 4 years ago
why are you people even arcuing?...you can't tell if it's true or not by just looking at a video...that's impossible...the only way to figure out if it's true or not is to replicate the "experiments"...most of you are just claiming things and that's pretty stupid
stauffap 4 years ago
Stanley Meyers produced a patent for a low input high HHO yielding device. Also Mr Dingle from the Philippines came across the same, but his government was against it because it would end fuel taxes.
cfootball10 4 years ago
I have a working cell...
see it on my site w-w-w-joecell-de
ipctec 4 years ago
what a crap
cybercow222 4 years ago
Nothing holds long in science. That is the beauty of science - NEW discoveries. You don't still beleive the Earth is flat do you? Orgone energy is here. Thank you Wilhelm Reich. A way to save the earth without people profiting from it. People working together for the betterment of planet Earth and each other. Next step is true interstallar travel at light speed and beyond.
nmorphew 4 years ago
Another Cool thing about the Joe Cell is, try and google it, "Joe Cell Fraud" or something like that. You turn up with no results. That's interesting,...
AceOfSpade1234 4 years ago
It is very interesting indeed. I believe in testing things thoroughly - as does any scientist. But I have a habit of believing things that most people wouldn't. That's not to say I'd buy an expensive device without testing it. However, in terms of the Joe Cell, it is a strange phenomenon that is extremely difficult to explain by our current understanding of the world.
nmorphew 4 years ago
Most interesting effect, I can tell by the comments. :-)
gabydewilde 4 years ago
Yup.
mrfairsquare 4 years ago
Wow! They talked more about politics, than about the actual science behind it! It must work then!
Sorry, but oil companies, etc, don't have the power/abilities to cover-up actual free-energy tech. Notice how these guys never prove it works, or get any scientific claims peer-reviewed?
Anybody that's passed 8th grade chem/physics courses can explain how this is bullshit. Nice fantasy, but that doesn't mean it's reality.
alanshvetz 4 years ago
you should look up zero point energy it explains how this works...
SexGoth 4 years ago
I completely understand zero-point energy, and even the Casimir Effect. Are you saying that right there, in his motor, some guy was able to create a perfect vacuum, then somehow also get enough energy from it to power his car engine? Let him prove it. Simple enough. He doesn't even need to explain it. Just provide conclusive proof, instead of marketing it like this.
alanshvetz 4 years ago
okay you've got a point there he doesn't proves a thing but I just wanted to point out that the joe cell is bassed on zero point energy atleast from my understanding of it... from all what I've read about it... but this technology is still in his baby fase anyway so I much rather go with the steorn technology which is even harder to explain cause it is a direct violation of the principle of conservation of energy
SexGoth 4 years ago
Read the 7 signs of voodoo science. Both Byron and Steorn fit all the characteristics. The bottom line, is that neither of them has provided a single shred of verified, legitimate evidence, and are actually going out of their way to do so. Not so, in regards to taking investor's money...
Mad scientists, working in a garage are great at innovating with existing tech, but not making new breakthroughs...
alanshvetz 4 years ago
AFter checking out the comment section under your profile section, Hyperkinetic, looks like someone needs a little love in their life.. LOL..Here, i'll buy you a tank of gas for your car :)
M3anbone 5 years ago
No need. I've got my girl right here, and I ride the subway.
hyperkinetic 5 years ago
Good job M3. If you can't beat the skeptic, try to find some other way to make him look bad.
kossxf 5 years ago
There was actually no need on my part to try and make him look bad. =)
M3anbone 5 years ago
This pointless rant is still going on? After that idiotic comment about hydrogen not having more potential energy than oil, was more than enough to prove Hyper-K is simply an idiot. People...get on with your lives! Skeptics go no where, those with vision and drive, do! Move on!
Servant2Lord 5 years ago
By the above chart, gasious hydrogen has only 4.5% of the energy density of gasoline. Face it. You don't know JACK SHIT. Skeptics get to the TRUTH. Skeptics aren't sheep who believe what they are fed. Assholes like you do NOTHING but talk out their ass.
hyperkinetic 5 years ago
Oh man, someone call NASA and tell them to stop using HYDROGEN to power their shuttles and make the switch to gasoline....lol...again, useless. The efforts you put in debunking these joecell projects is simply amusing. It is expected to have skeptics...and yes, being skeptic is good sometimes...it keeps you safe. :P
Servant2Lord 5 years ago
Nice straw man argument. Comparing the shuttle (which uses and entirely DIFFERENT form of propulsion) with a scam artists junk prop. The fact is you've never tried to make one of these devices because if you had you'd KNOW it doesn't produce more energy than it consumes.
hyperkinetic 5 years ago
Right. And all the your personal data regarding the operation of the joecell backs your fraud and sham claims. You've been ranting about it for days and yet never provided any links or data yourself that the device is non-operable.
M3anbone 5 years ago
"Assholes like you do NOTHING but talk out their ass." Look who's talking. LOL...Just stop with all the disinformation...you gotta realize some time, you've lost any kind of credibility a long time ago..I've read your other rants. Give it a rest..you're done.
M3anbone 5 years ago
Precicely what part of what I said is 'misinformation'. I defy you to PROVE any part of what I said as such. The way you and Servant2lord are protecting this junk, you must be a couple of dirty crook scam artists behind it. Keep it up. With any luck you'll end up like Stanley Meyer.
hyperkinetic 5 years ago
"Protecting this junk"? It is not the device itself I am protecting...I am standing for those who work to improve our world. Be it that a joecell, or any other device that will provide humanity with free energy, I will completely support. Now regarding your little threat about myself ending up like Stanley Meyer, thanks for pointing out that was murdered and did not die of an accident as claimed. Keep making threats.
M3anbone 5 years ago
Your intentions are good, but as the saying goes, the road to hell is paved with those. Why don't you put your support behind something that actually WORKS? There will never be free energy like this, but there are plenty of renewable technologies that do. As for Stanley Meyer, he died of a cerebral aneurysm. He was NOT murdered.
hyperkinetic 5 years ago
ENERGY DENSITY in watthours/liter
Gasoline 9000 Wh/l 13,500 Wh/Kg
LNG 7216 Wh/l 12,100 Wh/Kg
Propane 6600 Wh/l 13,900 Wh/Kg
Ethanol 6100 WH/l 7,850 Wh/Kg
Liquid H2 2600 Wh/l 39,000* Wh/Kg
150 Bar H2 405 WH/l 39,000* Wh/Kg
Skeptics are the REAL free thinkers. Skeptics don't blindly swallow the bullshit they're fead. Being Skeptical means requiring PROOF when liars like you open their mouths.
hyperkinetic 5 years ago
Sceptics often those with narrow minds who parrot their teachers who in turn parrot theirs. They may get a good grade and a pat on the head at school but they'll never innovate anything or make a serendipitous discovery because they're blind to possibility and often think they know much better if not all. The Semmelweis Reflex is something they ooze. If you don't like what other doing take a hike.
zyby 5 years ago
Nah, I don't think I will 'take a hike'. You're contradicting yourself. Skeptics have an open mind, but they don't BLINDLY accept anything they're told. Skepticism is a method of obtaining knowledge through systematic doubt and continual testing. In other words, something isn't true until it's been PROVEN to be true. Where is the PROOF that this thing works?
hyperkinetic 4 years ago
Oh yeah, I don't know BNE. Also I've never seen a working Joe Cell myself, but as its dealing with a kind of life-energy I'm not surprised not everyone can get a cell to work (mood,environment,etc.). In any case people, build your own and report results! If you suspect its all BS, read some of James DeMeo's results with cloudbusting (Orgone-tech) in Israel, he broke some rainfall records with it. Dont forget Wilhelm Reich.
mpe0 5 years ago
People please also note that this allegations of "perpetuum mobiles" is a load of fud. I really don't see how you could short-circuit a Joe Cell (feed out-to-in). Also, if this were true, every human would be a Perpetuum Mobile. We're not. Life is on earth is in part possible thanks to our Sun. We, Joe cells, and the entire earth gets its energy from the sun, and where the sun gets it... God knows.
mpe0 5 years ago
I agree, perpetual motion is complete fabrication, and so is this theory of life energy and all the other crazy theories...
The current status of this 'new energy source' is nobody knows yet, there have yet to be any decent scientific evidence supporting how it works and yet I haven't seen anyone debunking it either.
Biggest mystery: why, after almost a year, is this still a mystery?
Truthiness231 5 years ago
Hmm, You mean the Joe-Cell mystery? I saw suggestions it's been around since the 80s, most certainly since the 90s (Joe's videos from 1993, etc).
I first saw Alex Schiffer write this was an Orgone accumulator, the specs seem to corroborate this (Wilhelm Reich used inorganic and organic layers too in his accumulators).
Anyway, the FDA didn't like Reich's work, some of the same seems to be going on with Joe's work. Life energy? sounds esoteric doesn't it?
mpe0 5 years ago
It probably sounds esoteric to the hippies who believe this crap because they want easy answers. It sounds far-fetched and fraudulent to me.
kossxf 5 years ago
well i guess i should try (the ballon thing) here in home.
espido 5 years ago
Oh give it a fucking rest. No one has suppressed this bullshit. The reason no one is using it is because it DOESN'T WORK. It's a SCAM, and you're a dirty SCAMMER. Keep it up, someday your word here will finally land you in jail.
hyperkinetic 5 years ago
Don't be a fucking MORON! This is nothing more than a SCAM. Water is NOT a fuel. If it were then the oil companies wouldn't even exist! There is no discovery here, just FRAUD and assholes like YOU who support it.
hyperkinetic 5 years ago
Water is not a fuel, no... but hydrogen is.
Truthiness231 5 years ago
Sorry, you're WRONG there too. Hydrogen IS NOT A FUEL!!! It is a means of transporting energy, but does NOT have energy of it's own. It takes more than TWICE as much energy to make hydrogen from water than you'll EVER get out. Also, hydrogen has the LOWEST energy density of all currently used fuels. Now you know.
hyperkinetic 5 years ago
ROFL, please, for the love of allah, google "hydrogen fuel cell" and then go shoot yourself. ^.^
Truthiness231 5 years ago
Ignorant asshole. You know NOTHING. Fuel is any material that is capable of releasing energy when its chemical or physical structure is changed or converted through chemical or electrochemical means. If hydrogen were a fuel, then it's chemical structure would be changed. Hydrogen is ELEMENTAL. It CAN NOT be changed. It can only be used to form another compound.
hyperkinetic 5 years ago
"Also, hydrogen has the LOWEST energy density of all currently used fuels. Now you know." Hyperkinetic - Where are you getting your information from? Classic act of disinformation...or even better, great example of what happens when our government cuts funding from education...LOL
Servant2Lord 5 years ago
Figures a moronic follower robot like you would not be intelligent enough to verify, or at least do the research to refute my claims. The only people spreading misinformation is YOU. When it comes to technology, I am a GURU. I've rebuilt engines, built electric bikes, put together my own solar and wind generator. WTF have you done other that show your ignorance?
hyperkinetic 5 years ago
Go to Wikipedia and look up hydrogen. Scroll down to the section "Hydrogen as an energy carrier". It reads in short "Hydrogen is not an energy source, since it is not an abundant natural resource and more energy is used to produce it than can be ultimately extracted from it." YOU are the misinformant! YOU are the product of crappy schools. I attended private school through grade school, and a science magnet in high school. My education has NEVER stopped. Clearly, yours never started. Moron.
hyperkinetic 5 years ago
Dude, you should chill out. You're making yourself look like a pretentious ass. Private schools don't make you any more intelligent than the next guy, look at Edison(barely had any formal education.) And if you are so educated and intellectually endowed, why are you quoting Wikipedia?
sirmarkthomas 5 years ago
Pretentious ass? Maybe so. And you're right, private schools don't necessarily MAKE you more intelligent, but smaller classes mean more individual attention, and better pay generally attracts better teachers. When I transitioned from private to public, I was advanced a grade soley on how I tested.
hyperkinetic 5 years ago
Congradulations. I guess that proves that you are smarter than the average youtube subscriber.
sirmarkthomas 5 years ago
I see nothing wrong with Wikipedia. It's peer reviewed not unlike the scientific community does. Defacements and inaccuracies rarely last more than a few minutes. I hear lots of deniers bash Wikipedia, but they never cite any examples of it's alleged inaccuracy. So what EXACTLY is your issue with it?
hyperkinetic 5 years ago
It is not a scholarly source and most schools won't except it as such.
sirmarkthomas 5 years ago
Oh, and don't lose sight of the fact that Britannica has been at this since 1768, and Wikipedia has it nearly matched. Add to that the fact the Wikipedia has Britannica blown out of the water in the sheer number of articles. I don't take every Wikipedia article as absolute fact, but for exploring new subject matter or as a source of refrences for further reading it's really hard to beat.
hyperkinetic 5 years ago
Yes, theis SCAM has been around since the 80's. All those who have perpetrated it on those ignorant fools who believed are either in prison or dead at the hand of those they ripped off.
hyperkinetic 5 years ago
I believe it! I've made a few orgonite cloudbusters and they work! There's no reason to doubt something that no one is trying to make money off of. I love experimenting anyways. Skeptics lack hope.
hyperdelivery 5 years ago
"There's no reason to doubt something that no one is trying to make money off of." They are trying to make money off of it genius. Via supplies, plans and donations available on their website.
kossxf 5 years ago
I wish they would explain how to make a god damn joe cell...im very interested but i havent the foggiest idea on where to start.
Mawktherussian 5 years ago
The reason they NEVER tell you is because they want to sell you the plans! then they slip into the night before you discover you've been sold a bill of goods!
hyperkinetic 5 years ago
Its funny how the only person to really get this thing working has abandoned all progress due to threats from anonymous people. What a coincidence. Capitalism would never let a technology like THIS be repressed. Byron says they "make energy for free" but yet they need donations.
kossxf 5 years ago
Don't worry, we'll let you guys keep all the energy that you've been making with these things. You deserve it.
kossxf 5 years ago
does that mean it works?
kossxf 5 years ago
No, it means he's a fool, and his money is now gone. It's unfortuante that such stupidity isn't more painful or costly.
hyperkinetic 5 years ago