Nietzsche & Schopenhauer

[JNathanK2011]

lmfao

[Samgurney88]

Nietzsche didn't drink coffee. Such a disapointment, your... representation was so realistic until then! :P

[KrfNYC2]

Haha..Nietzsche had a mix tape.

[SpunkySkunk347]

Did you make this short film for a class, or just for our viewing pleasure?

[Blacktied1]

LOL! This shit is HIILLARIOUUSSS! lol

[trooubermensch]

HOLY SHIT! SCHOPENHAUER DRIVES THE SAME CAR I DO!

[trooubermensch]

I could only imagine what these two paired would do, what with both of them having probably more passion for art (specifically music) than any other philosopher to ever live.

[libertyAHV]

fuckin lold

[Lucifer986]

brilliantly funny

[thewolfsironheart1]

8:31 the face of Schopenhauer when he looks nietzsche drinking cheap coffe in a sad Disposable coffe cup xD

[JONY3468]

name song???

[technologic21]

This is totally what it would have been like if they were roommates.

[Fullblaster]

You should have put some Wagner as music in the beginning.

[libertyAHV]

@Fullblaster I think Nietzsche hated Wagner. (i could be wrong)

[NickPippin]

@libertyAHV They were really tight friends for a while (Freddy sent Rick an advance copy of The Birth of Tragedy), but, yeah, he ended up hating him

[AriaLenskovo]

You gentlemen are rather mad . . . certainly worthy of Friedrich and Arthur!

[theashleywhocould]

schopenhauer hated ppl who drum around on stuff with their fingers

[Nohshing]

People often write "haha, rofl", and I just don't understand why they find a video good.

Now I write "haha, rofl", and they don't understand!

[mmmodafoca]

i could see Schopey and Nietzschey driving a 2002sh ford Tauros. I mean that car just reflects what these men where.

[MinorityMans]

Herd comedy.

[tiakpark]

Why does Nietzsche have a pampadour?

[hsnygtclk]

the boy who roled schopenhauer is uglier than schopenhauer. and you laugh, you think this is funny, but your lives are very very silly than this of course, you may sure this, not need to think also!

[legadodegali]

POR LO QUE MAS QUIERAN YANKIS DE MIERDA Y LOS HABLA ISPANOS ESPANGLISH., QUE ALGUIEN TRADUSCA ESTE VIDEO AL ESPAÑOL O POR LO MENOS QUE LO SUBTITULEN,.,.

[0001kd]

When Nietzsche honked the horn I almost freaking pee'd

[driekone]

@0001kd Oh never mind, at first I thought you had them mixed up...but you're right, toward the end that second honk. Hahaha.

[MadSmokerBBQ]

horrible. 

[superstar122251]

This is silly! What next? Kant and Hegel? Russell and wittengstine?

I just lost 10 iq points watching this.

[moevisual]

@superstar122251 Dear...it`s Wittgenstein...

[pecierpoldo]

@superstar122251 "I just lost 10 iq points watching this." I can see. It is clearly evidenced by your misspelling of Wittgenstein's name.

[Jtking3000]

i like the way they start with one of schopies favorite composers :-P

[bbronin1]

although this might have been a good video... i decided that you were wasteing my valued time with over dramatizations... so i left....

[auroraborealisgrl]

Hahahah your German accent is Irish.....love it.....

[caseyDsutherland]

@auroraborealisgrl

I couldn't do it, try as I might. haha

[caseyDsutherland]

@auroraborealisgrl

I know, we should have just dropped the accents all together.

[elpapaya94]

this film was obviously made to impress. I am not at all satisfied with it regardless of the way it was intended to be presented to me. its inability to entertain has spoiled the rest of my day for i will no longer feel confident to subject myself to the emotions that make a chronically negative world passable.

(Nietzsche or Schopenhauer?)

[tooshortboi1]

@elpapaya94 Hah! Spoken as a God. And who do you think you are?

[elpapaya94]

Egoism is the very essence of a noble soul...

[caseyDsutherland]

@elpapaya94

Regardless of the pleasure you seek, most of the script is reorganized primary source material and the placing of several key themes of two great philosophers in a comedic fashion. If we soured your day, then I think we may have done a stellar job ;)

[elpapaya94]

@caseyDsutherland

no I just implemented my own satire in place of what should, by purpose, be considered a comment. I actually thought it was... Str@it up bangin' shit, ma Ni66as. You guys should do more of these.

[elpapaya94]

@caseyDsutherland

Actually you guys do have more videos... =/

I probably should have checked. lol. I honestly want to be like you guys when I'm twenty-three. That is, if I can bear the misery and boredom that the world would surely offer me throughout the long, painful journey that is adolescence and the inviting hell that is adulthood. =)

[caseyDsutherland]

@elpapaya94

Consider it a gadfly for further reading then. Is philosophy to entertain?

[SuperAlexrios]

shopenhauer was a pussy compare to nietzche

[yammerz]

"of course-for an Englishman." HAHAHA.

[ailuvmie]

i agree with schopenhauer.

[adam4skateboarding]

BRILLIANT!

[seanrimada]

Schopenhauer hated women, i hope they were using irony in this vid

[tooshortboi1]

@seanrimada Well, all men hate men. Don't be persuaded by what you'd like to think.

[tooshortboi1]

@seanrimada Women, i meant

[AnfisaMops]

Молодцы ребята!!!!;) Это действительно очень классно!!!!

[OdeToNecrophilia]

Why did he beep at the woman?

[MacoutesGabber]

As Nietzsche said, he couldn't control his will.

[OdeToNecrophilia]

Interesting.

[MacoutesGabber]

it is, but in one sense, it isn't, since Nietzsche said it was a more "normal" or innate essence of man to let go, or "control" his will.

It would be considered "natural" to beep at the woman.

[tooshortboi1]

@MacoutesGabber To let go and control your will is a contradiction, as will controls. To take control is a 'type' of will.

[elpapaya94]

was it not schopenhauer that implied that freedom of will is impossible?

[MacoutesGabber]

funny thing is, he wants us to deny the will. Doesn't denial imply freedom to do so? Hilarious.

[elpapaya94]

@MacoutesGabber

I'm not too sure about that... How would one deny their will? Schopenhauer believes that, while a common man, philosophically untrained (he actually said philosophically untrained) believes that there is freedom of the will becuase, one can choose to follow that which they will, or no follow it.  A philosopher sees this as impossible because all human manifestations that are to be presented to others are, in fact manifestations of a single, instantaneous will...

[elpapaya94]

@MacoutesGabber

To sum up, he states that man can choose to do this OR he can choose to do the other. One cannot do anything outside of their will.

ex. If you are held at gunpoint and forced to forfeit your belongings, unless he is physically forcing you, you are doing that which you will. All extraneous factors only influence one's will, man has no freedom to go against it.

[elpapaya94]

@MacoutesGabber

I just realized that my previous comment was less a less than acceptable. EVEN if one is heavily influencing that which you will (with the use of physical coercion as i have said) Tthe poor soul is still tied by death to his will.

ex. If one is tied up by another, he is obviously impaired of judgement because of the fewer possiblities in which to act. But then again, the will still exists. It is the manifestation of his will that is phycally impaired.

[OdeToNecrophilia]

Friedrich looks fucking hilarious

[BananaMango99]

Interesting comic idea, but Schopenhauer was a total loner wasn't he?

[OdeToNecrophilia]

Yes he was.

[caseyDsutherland]

@BananaMango99

He kicked his landlady down the stairs in an argument over back rent and his mother told him to leave the house when she had company over.

[BananaMango99]

@caseyDsutherland lol yes, and cursed her until her death I believe because he had to pay her compensation? I think he had his own kind of happiness, though.

[HowAboutSomeTruth1]

This is genius lol, are most of the words quoted directly?

[Aristoteles83]

Schopenhauer is so incredibly cute - we should do it like they did it in the good ol' days in Greece. ;-)

[togetheras0ne]

ahahahh lololollol

[SamuelDrake27]

haha! That was funny and entertaining! I loved the dialogue, it was pertinent to my interests. Love as utility or passion?

[sweetsauceboom]

I like how cheezy Nietzsche's mustache is haha

[technologic21]

5:41

"I'm sorry, I cannot control my will."

haha

[alphabetacharliedelt]

I was a little surprised to see Nietzsche take a bottle of Wine to a party. He was an opponent to drinking and said that water was the only drink he needed to quench his thirst. Drinking to drown out your problems was seen as a waste as the feelings should be studied rather than masked by alcohol.

[netcyrus]

word, and respect, not many people know that. "alcohol and christianity, the two european narcotics" or something like that

[BigJewOnFIre]

same

[HowAboutSomeTruth1]

"Alcohol is bad for me: a single glass of wine or beer in one day is quite sufficient to turn my life into a vale of misery"

[schach420]

I think it was a mirror of Nietzsche's early view of Dionysus. The Birth of Tragedy, for example.

[mrusernameone]

Popcorn.

[technologic21]

Brilliant!

[mgl1910]

The voice pitch and mustache of the actor playing Nietzsche are very disappointing.

About the ideas, as Karl Jasper (and Derrida) says in his book about Nietzsche, it is your particular point of view of Nietzsche's work. If there was only one correct way of interpretation of his work, that would be dogmatic, and very disregarded.

[caseyDsutherland]

I am the actor who played Nietzsche. I agree, the voice could have used polishing. To us, what was most important was the dialogue, not the voice. In the film the accent is lost during the night scene because chronologically that was what we shot first and tone of Nietzsche's voice was yet to be finalized. Thanks for the comments.

[mgl1910]

I'm glad you took it positively! Maybe you could release a "director's cut", "extended version" or "unrated version" with more postproduction. I'm going to check out your profile to check for more interesting works. Keep it up!

[zeb636]

The guy who is playing Schopenhauer needs to step up his game. What is up with drumming on the steering wheel with his hands while he waits for Nietzsche? If you have read Schopenhauer's works thoroughly, he states that one who bangs his hands on objects marks his/her primitive intelligence. The lower/automatic forces of will manifest in this way, where as will that is continually wrinkling the brain through internal dialogue is purely antithetical to monkey behavior.

[Jlongtors0]

Perhaps the drumming was a joke in this context, like Fred Astaire stumbling. Maybe it was even a wry comment on the disparity between the philosopher Schopenhauer who advocated an ascetic detatchment from the world and Schopenhauer the man who loved women, drink and comforts. At any rate I found the actor's handling of the role to be light and dextrous - really a pleasure to watch. One might even say he was - ahem - representin' with a will.

[KatatonianOxymoron]

nietzsche sieht so geil aus! XD

[set2light]

There are lots of philosophers Schopenhauer would rather talk to than Nietzsche. The most obvious ones are Plato, Kant, Locke and Hume.

[mrfatd]

if you are a philosopher, would you rather talk to some1 that influenced you or someone who criticised your theories?

[LeavesinTibet]

Yes, Nietzsche criticized Schopenhauer, but he also owed a lot to him, as well, and even admitted it. I think they would enjoy talking to one another. Their philosophies are different but there IS some common ground.

[youssefmaksour]

as you said , much of the thing related to alcohol are in the gay science you can even search in human all too human and you will find some quotes it is equaly mentioned in one of the video n 2 on youyube "philosophy the way to happiness frederic Nietzche" as for his moustache it is mentioned not in his books but in his biography visit Wikipedia

[drinsanity13]

Europe's two great narcotics: Christianity and alcohol

[youssefmaksour]

just some observations : 1 - Nitzche never used to drink alchool he considered alchool to be = to religion a way to escape the pain and the suffering while they should be confronted 2- Nitzche never used to brush his moustache.

1 - shopenhauer used to carry his cup with him all the time he was afraid to get an infection. 2- he liked music played the fluite and prefered the company of dogs to the company of men (shopenhauer personality caracteristics are respected in the play)

[caseyDsutherland]

Have you ever heard of Chloral Hydrate? Nietzsche used it for his intense migranes, so if it is true that he avoided alcohol for these reasons I am interested in your views on Chloral Hydrate. Where did Nietzsche state this about alcohol. I am just curious for future reference.

[youssefmaksour]

Oh yes chloral hydrate ! i missed that my mistake ! the difference between chlorale hydrate and alchool is that the latter is a drug for the mind the first is in fact for the body to ease the pain of the body , Nitzche teach us to praize our body, to pleasure it by any mean we can but on the other hand he tell us to cultivate our mind to think and this is why he hated alchool, he thought that alchool was a way to run from your suffering that is to say from the positive element in life

[caseyDsutherland]

Intention and action however are separate and one might argue that the pain of the body is a pain of the mind. Where did you find Nietzsche's views on alcohol. I am curious which book that is in.

[caseyDsutherland]

I researched your claim from your original post. Most of Nietzsche's view on alcohol can be found in the Gay Science. While I do not agree that Nietzsche equated alcohol with escaping pain and suffering you are right to correlate Christianity and Alcohol as "European narcotics." Note aphorisms 42, 134, 145, 147 from the Gay Science.

[InsertKickassAlias]

"That which does not kill us makes us stronger." ~Nietzsche

"Either that or confines us for the rest of our life to a wheelchair." ~Me

Schopenhauer > Nietzsche

[JohnHonest]

Sometimes you die while you're still alive.

[7Row7enn7]

I love how you actually had the guy playing Nietzche quoting Nietzche:

"You know why your going, right?"

"Ah, they make the lows lower and the highs higher. Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger."

lolololol

[7Row7enn7]

Also, tis piaring isn't unlikely a all... They shared a lot of the same beliefs, and Nietzche often quoted Schopenhauer.

[7Row7enn7]

Funny... I love both Nietzche and Schopenhaur... they are my favorite philosophers, and nthey inspire my purpose in life. Geniuses; nearly "Gods" among men.

[SinNanna]

This is very cute.

[Mattprole]

Oh nice ;)

[anitcha666]

Please, spanish subtitles,

Thanks.

[pragajoa]

good movie about schopenhauer and Nietzsche, but don't like the german accent in both philosophers, don't know about Nietzsche but Schopenhauers' English was brilliant(he wanted to translate the Critiques from Kant!) and also he's french was brilliant ;).

But I like it, keep up the good work and waiting for a new Schopenhauer and Nietzsche movie! Or Kant & Nietzsche? Hume & Schopenhauer? :p

[MTZito]

How about Schopenhauer and Hegel? Now that would be interesting!

[UnorthodoxPoppycock]

I suspect that would turn out to be more akin to an all-out wrestling match than a film!

[Kensei1234]

@UnorthodoxPoppycock Still very interesting

[blamagenkind]

@UnorthodoxPoppycock LOL, funny but so true.

[PenttiLinkola23]

@MTZito Haha. Schopenhauer would beat Hegel to death.

[matej795]

Yes it would. But I think, it would be film 18+ because of violence. :D

[zopqwe]

He didn't "want" to translate the critiques into english, he did it. And about languages, he also spoke spanish (thou acording to Borges, not so good), italin, and og course greek and latin.

[ZackMcLeish13]

omfg and im casey's lil bro. im not kidding i am. btw that was good

[NoCarsGoWhereWeKnow]

I enjoyed this film very much, but after a thorough review of your classic films, I felt a distinct lack of Trevor C. in this film, personally, he held Squirrelmas together with his classic comic tropes.

[s0079208]

Brilliant yet again I love the mix tapes that made me giggle... but oh gawd the horrible french pronounciation!!

[dreamchaser86]

this is great guys! Awesome Stefan, I never knew you made films. I loved it - Laura

[caseyDsutherland]

This movie was the most fun to make and to write. Stefan has done an amazing editing job. I hope that everyone who enjoys philosophy also enjoys this movie.