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  • This isnt allowed in Islam .. It's just an African culture tradition

  • ha bin so lieb

  • i hate her she is not somali

  • female circumcision IS NOT FROM Islamic teachings..its from the culture of arabs..even saudi's female didnt undergo circumcision...

  • really sorry for my bad english..

  • all muslimah / muslim female aren't forced to undergo circumcision..according to famous school of taught (hanafi, hambali etc), khitan is not from Islam..they said that "khitan" for female is actually from arabs traditions even during the era of jahiliyya (before the revealation of Islam), all arabs did this..so, khitan is not from Islamic traditions or taughts..e

  • Perempuan means girl

  • i'ts not wajib, ask the right scholars

  • Female circumcision is not a part of Islamic culture. It's a part of regional cultures so don't confuse that with the teachings of Islam.

  • Anti muslims don't have anyproofs

  • @tayyabno10 .. what proof are you looking for?

  • @HadithMeansTerrorism a proof which states why is islam the fastest growing religion

  • this is not islam's way. . If u said Islam wrong then why Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world?

  • female cicumcision is not practiced in islam seriously the things people will say to tarnish islam....... sometimes its almost seems like desperation. this is more a cultural thing n i do feel bad that people do it.

  • @skulsmithy123 WHY when over 100 MILLION muslim girls are mutilated on dictates of your imams, when yemeni govt tried to outlaw it but islamic leaders intervened saying its indeed islamic would you claim such is NOT part of islam

    after all, islam has NO CONCERN whatsoever for children AND regards females as 'property'

  • fuck islam

  • LET THE GIRLS DIE FOR THE CAUSE OF ALLAH --EVER MERCIFUL  ---ALLAH HU AKBAR ALLAH HU ALBAR

  • the person who cut should be prosecuted for the unecessary death of those poor girls!!!

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  • How many small girls have lost their lives due to this practice ? I think they must suffer and are terrified.

  • well no matter wat evidence u provide to this kuffar they will still say islam ask for female circumcision.

  • FUCK u black woman dont talk about shit u dont know, u live in sumaliya gtfo.

  • in Islam only men are supposed to get circumsized, not girls.

  • Lies,Lies,Lies!!! MAy Allah have mercy on you.

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  • Don't you love it when people want to argue theology in the face of these destructive acts? ooooooh you said a wrong thing, nnoooo I didn't.

    Mankind is so not out of the woods.

  • Superstitions is pure ignorance. If you get educated, you won't believe in such ignorant, harmful things. It's sad and disgusting!

  • Female circumcision contradicts to the teaching

    of Islam ,for Islam forbidds any act of harming

    oneself or others . No mention of female

    mutation either directly or indirectly in Quran .

    There is no known Hadith which requires

    female circumcision ,but it is a commedable

    act for men .Those people stick their inhuman

    traditions to islam in order to justify them .

  • @xluuuluuux look sister I found you lol

  • lier bitch i hate you. brought shame on every somalian person.

  • @SomalianGirl2525 yeah...tell that to Waris Dirie.

  • LOL !

    This is not true at all . This is not right . Muslims don't do circumcision to females .

  • that is disgusting. female circumcision, jihad, apostasy's death penalty, wearing veils. islam is the most disgusting religion and its set in the fucking 7th century and i cant understand how muslims can go around justifying this shit by reading passages from the quran or their other disgusting law books. grow up you muslim idiots. we live in the 21st century and still, we have muslims doing these horrendous things, and not only that. we have muslims justifying these horrendous things as well.

  • @elborrador do your research. Female circumcision does not happen in places like pakistan, iran etc its a cultural thing

  • @greensnes .. think again.. they have started castrating boys to keep them from "temptations"

  • @greensnes There are several ahadith by abu sawud and sahih bukhari sayings its sunna to maim little girls.

  • wht the fuck why is she produced as Muslim , its their some fucking custom. Islam does not have to do anything with it ...

  • OH FOR FUCK SAKE...FEMALE'S HAVIN GENITAL MUTILATION AINT EVEN AN ISLAMIC CUSTOM...ITS MAINLY AN AFRICAN THING...AS FAR AS ISLAM GOES, ONLY MALES HAVE THIS DONE...PISSHEAD TRYNA MAKE OUT AS IF ISLAM'S A BLOODY BARBARIC RELIGION...well i tell you what u arrogant pic, is it barbaric to remove foreskin from male genitalia for purely hygenic reasons...Hmm, didnt think so!

  • @priyajaved

    Islam IS a barbaric religion even without female genital mutilation.

  • Since Shari'a enshrines the "Eye for an Eye" conception of "justice", let's punish Muslim Patriarchy accordingly for its atrocities against women. Seize and castrate a Muslim man in retaliation every instance of female genital mutilation! Every time some Mullah butchers a girl's clitoris, chop off a Muslim's scrotum and penis as just compensation!! Such Feminist Shari'a would serve true justice, while stopping these barbarians from breeding. May JUSTICE be done though the heavens fall!!

  • Most imams suggest treating your wife like she is a queen. As far as I'm concerned, that means taking off her pants, putting your tongue to good use, and giving her a proper orgasm without expecting anything in return (though, if she's anything like my girlfriend, she'll be all the more happy to repay in kind.) It saddens me that there are women in the third world who can't be appreciated in such a way.

  • OK, lets assume that female circumcision is islamic. But why don't then all these extremists from Saudi Arabia and especially the Taliban from Afghanistan practice this rite?

    In fact only the africans do this and they had it BEFORE MUHAMMAD.

  • As I said before, my family is sunni muslim from Algeria, and this is unknown there. I'm an "uncut" and "intact" woman, like all the women in my family. Female circumcision is an AFRICAN PAGAN cultural mutilation also practiced by COPTS and ANIMISTS. To claim that this is an islamic practice is a vile propaganda.

  • i can't even stand to hear such a thing.

  • ... the clit is even bigger than a penis? (poor guy)

    ... the clit is believed to strangle a baby??

    ...a bigger clit makes men important?

    what kind of ignorance is that?

    I am so glad that i am christ and know the facts of life.....

  • There is NO female circumcision in Islam!

    There is NO female circumcision in Islam!

    There is NO female circumcision in Islam!

    "Ayaan the Liar", go back to Somalia and fix your own problems.

  • omg she is such a fucking lair.....there is not female circumcision in islam....

    it is a cultural practice...just go to the search box and type female circumcision and you wud even see christian tribes circumcising their women.

  • It's their culture and has NOTHING to do with Islam.... get your facts right! argh!!!!

  • Muslims who deny this stuff were lying! Liars! Muslim females do undergo FGM.. according to a Muslim guy when I asked..~ he then said "yes! but only to cut a part of the clit not to go extreme as to take off all the labia minor and exterior..and sew the lips together shutting off the vuvla!! and levaing a small hole for peeing and menstrual blood (period) - Muslims = TAQIYYA!

  • @momokoron nope, not islamic, FGM is a cultural practise, metal is not allowed to be used on womens body, which is why muslim women thread thier eyebrows and not plucker.. and taqiyya is a shia thing, muslim majority is sunni...

  • I am from Turkey. I asked mom whether female circumsion is done in Turkey or not. She was even unaware of female circumsion word, she said circumsion is for man. Man circumsion is celebrated in Turkey and there is a popular joke that we should also celebrate start of female menstrual period. Joke shows the lack of knowledge of female circumsion. This barbarian African tradition is not common in any part of Turkey, even in Kurds.

  • Female circumcision is not allowed in Islam. Whosover implementing this custom are doing it because of their cultural trends.

  • islam does not in anyway force female circumcision and there is nothing about female circumcision in koran... i know it because im muslim....

    that just a stupiid african tradition which dates back islam....

  • the movie submission is sopposed to insult islam but the movies seems SCARY..........the whole movie is about innocent muslim women haveing quraanic verses written on them after they get murded by there husbands.......but after the movie her friend got killed he was the producer ..........at the funeral his mother called ayaan and told her to complete what she STARTED........ayaan smirked ........it was like a movie lol..........

  • ayaan hirsi ali xaaji madoowe ...her friend got assinated by some muslim i heard he got his throat CUT and had an amazing poem on a piece of paper sticket on him.......it also says that she wouldnt last long...but the poor muslim guy end'd up in prison ( life sentence ) so now she is protect ( high security ) she made this 10 min movie called submission she is a sworn enemy mullah..scholars promised she would taste DEATH

  • This is probably done in some cultures! BUT not in ISLAM!!!!!!!

  • OMG THERE IS NO FEMALE CIRCUMCISION IN ISLAM!!! THIS IS A LIE!- hate this woman slandering us just because of her own agenda!

  • @kakahass Muslims slander themselves through their relentless ignorance, cruelty and violence. Islam the world over is synonymous with terrorism, poverty, war, genital mutilation, female slavery, intolerance and fanaticism!

  • @Hottides you could say the same thing about any large organized religion...

  • @kakahass there is still female circumcision going on in islam. look around you, it is still very heavily rooted in many islamic communities.

  • fucking bitch..........zat donot exist in islam

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  • Did you get paid to spread lies just like ayan hirsi or are you one of those arrogant western "EVERYTHING I'v BEEN TOLD MUST BE TRUE"

    type of person? your a scumbag and you dont even know it...HOW PATHETIC! YOUR THE WORST OF YOUR TYPE!

  • Support the Ayaan Hirsi Foundation theahafoundation org!

  • this is not in islam my mother

    femal circumcision in african sociaty which live along nile river ,male cicumsision, in islam and juish people

  • this is African cultural not islam

  • if god made us, why would those religious people who want to respect god change our body the god created as is. shouldn't we leave the body alone how it is rather then going body modification ezine syle?

  • fucking bitch i know she needs money why she is all doing this

  • Correct !

    As you can tell,Her ashy dry lips proofs that she is in need of money lol.

    her Father is the same.

    She gets paid to spread lies even if its about her own family or religion ....HOW FAR WILL THESE SOMALI PEOPLE GO?

  • My god... She portrays Islam such a wrong way. I live in Turkey, I'm muslim, I have all the human rights, I don't live different to any male, We live like the Europeans and I cannot belive what she says.

    IT'S NOT ISLAM. It's just bullshit of African countries.

    In quran, there is not Female Circumcision. She is just lying.

  • Im sorry to say this my brother but these kafirs have only one EYE.

    They tend to believe only arab country's are muslim.

    60% of muslims are of asian decent

    (EASTERN,NORTHERN,SOUTHEASTERN ASIAN DECENT) THEY SIMPLY WONT BELIEVE YOU.

  • im nnot doing this shit i seen a male video that shit is crazy all those scizzors

  • I disagree not only famale circumcise but also male. that is bullshit. now we are in 21 centuries.

  • this is what makes islam such a bad religion. it just castrates people. wtf!!!

  • yes yes! make my religion of Islam an evil and disgusting and harmful threat. damn what a bunch of sickos from hell. this is exactly why islam is not my religion any more. i leave islam today.

  • I agree sir right on!

  • FAKE FAKE DONT BELIEVE

  • SOOOO WRONGGG!!!

    there is no such thingg that Islam allows female circumcision

  • ouchhhhh Razor blades or glass

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  • "female circumcision" there is no such thing as circumcision for females...

    you people need to get your facts together and stop trying to make Islam sound bad!!

  • if there is no such thing as female circumsision, then why do females get castrated. we are fighting evil and you know it. stop the awful archaic form of islam.

  • i am sry but this is an African egyption tradition and it is for poor families and if you come here*egypt* you will know that it is illegal and forbidden in islam sry

  • every body knows that it is islam that allows the castration of females. islam is not my religion any more.

  • People need the truth!!!

    watch?v=4bmnJKhPGgg

  • God damn brutal.. Yet another example of why a religious belief should NOT be made into a life style...Animals treat the young better!..

  • "female circumcision in ISLAM"??? *sigh* yet more false info on Islam.

    This is some sort of african tradition as far as i know. Its a cultural act not a religious one. I don't see muslims carrying out female circumcision here in the UK.

  • watch?v=8W-vjtN-huU&feature=re­lated

  • Well the video you wanted me to watch is on circumcision of the penis and as far as I know males have it not females.

    You my friend need to watch this:

    watch?v=ZUy1ZpJlLgU

    A proper Muslim talking about the topic.

  • well islam is the best

  • This is a person who doesnt know who to separate the religious from the customs....it is very sad to try to judge a religious by people action. i am an Arabian Muslim woman. My clan (tribe)  consider to be a very Bedouin from an old Arabic line. . We have our traditions and customs. What she is talking about is a tradition more likely in the poor families know days. , in my family we dont do it.

  • exactly and it is illegal in my country egypt

  • there is something really wrong this dam cult pass it self as a relgion, I hope muslim wake up leave this dealth cult behind them and join humanity

  • this is NOT in ISLAM.. its a cultural/traditional act. Do not see these videos and relate them to Islam.Propagana. and if soem Imams allowed such things to happen.. they were WRONG..and now some will say well hwo can Imams be wrong ur contradicting urself as a MUslim.. Well they are just as wrong as priests raping kids..and I'll leave it at that

  • Muhammad (their prophet) approved of it in their Hadith. [Abu-Dawud Book 41, No. 5251] There are also numerous Hadiths of Aisha, the wife of Muhammad explaining how a bath is obligatory when "the TWO circumcised parts of a man & woman meet" Their Prophet witnessed it being practiced & gave instruction how to cut & not to cut too much, as that "is more desirable for a husband" So what ever Muhammad approved became part of Islam.---

    was Muhammed was wrong too??

  • first of all.. as a Muslim.. I only believe the Quran.. the way it should be. second the bath your talking about isnt about 2 circumcized part meeting, its after intercourse you have to bathe. and thirdly if its in Islam, then how come only such small % of ppl actually do it? and Muslims like ARAbs dont do this? yeah I thought so.. such bullshit..

  • @craigMellow yes,he was.

  • @craigMellow

    That hadith says "Two purified parts" in literal Arabic, and this refers to the time period in which a women is not menstrual. No, there are not numerous hadiths.

    I know your comment is old, but seeing all these videos about "Islam and FGM" is starting to piss me off.

    FGM has nothing to do with Islam, and never has! It's a sub-Saharan African tradition, with idiots in the mid-east who follow it. It's dominant in Christian countries, ironically.

  • @craigMellow you need some education about islam, there is arule in islamic fiqh that defines the hadith as only what the prophet mentions as a prophet and not as human, so many life details of the prophet have nothing to do with islam, they are simply things he did as a human who lived in certain place and time, and as any different human he has opinion and sayings, but to be a hadith and part of islam there need to be a clue (qarenah) relating this to religion which is missing here

  • @craigMellow there is a huge question mark if the woman mentioned in this WEAK hadith was even muslim. none of the prophets daughters were circumcised and there is no clear instruction for this to be mandatory. this is an african tradition, it doesn't exist in other muslim countries like pakistan,malaysia etc. also notice that if she had been a muslim women he would have either clearly said that it was the muslim thing to do etc she was a bedioun woman and in the quraaan

  • @craigMellow they are described as been very hard headed etc

  • @craigMellow

    Where did it say "more desirable for a husband" Can u show me please?

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  • err..actually he didnt deny any thing. he just showed the world that Hadiths can be rejected when needed..

  • you know what, I actually looked up the hadith you pointed out and it says nothing like what you were trying to say. It says that women in medine were being circumcized during those times and Mohammad(PBUH) told them not to do that cuz it will be safer and more pleasurable for both women and men if she isnt. Get your facts right. Your a liar my friend. and why are you removing what the other guy said, cuz he agrees with me.. your full of shit my friend!! TOO full...

  • ha ha hey can you read? it says "COMMENT REMOVED BY AUTHOR"

    and u tell me about getting facts right??

  • HAH...nice response.. oh my Im sorry I ont pay much att. to utube stuff, clearly ur the 1 who cant read, great explanation on that hadith by the way..dumbass...why dont you continue with your argument about female circumcision and Islam.. whatever happened to the hadith? or whatever else you have that can potentially make ppl who read ur comment hateful towards islam..ur really good at it though, I should give u credit for that at least.

  • @babydoll416 if he really wanted to stop it, he could have killed the person who does it ?

  • @babydoll416 ....believe me people they are just trying to give bad name to islam...there is no such thing as female circumcision in islam...it is just a propaganda against islam......people who do it i mean muslims who do it are not following islam correctly.

  • @babydoll416 I'm Muslim and I don't know any (Turkish) Muslim that follows the hadiths, because we consider it as mostly false, it's man written and wrong.

    Eitherway Ayaan is a Islamaphobe whore, she has such a hard time talking about it becaus eher parents have mutilated her too,... she knows most Muslims don't do female circumcision (99.9999999%, infact only somali's some african non muslim tribes and Kurds in north Iraq) but she blames all her problems to Islam, Ayaan is a SICK woman

  • For craig mellows, this female circumcision is not a islamic practice its a localized culture from the area poor Ayaan hirshi originated, from morrocco to indonesia overwhelming majority of muslims have no familiarity with it and it would be abhored and condemned. The educated muslim societies probably bestows more freedom and respect to their females then the west. If you research honestly you will find out that Islam infact was a revolution for female respectability and rights.

    Cheers

  • yepper =) sooooo true

  • @babydoll416

    abu huraiya narrated a hadith saying 'cut the clitorus deeply.'

  • you have to bring the knowlegde over there but theres a problem.. in islam women is worth and respected as much as i love and respect my car... and i dont want that my car would start to get its own opinions and fishes...

  • Girls are being unjustly treated and if that is what u really were caring about u would promote the many, the vast majority of muslims who are rejecting this horrible practice...but nay u keep spending ur time here arguing about those u claim being silent! Its u not listening, its u silencing us! Its u prioritizing ur anti islamic agenda over helping these girls! Read ur page for my full response to ur nonsense...

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  • Those are pagan traditions of some folks in specific areas in the world...some of these follks have experienced an islamic presence and thats why some confuse this practice with the religion...some ppl arent even capable of drawing the line between traditions, culture and religion...very tragic!

  • "Your mother belived"..."you think ppl belive"..."depends on who do it"..."sometimes it depends on what instrument is used"...however...Circumsion for girls has absolutely no support in islam...if u claim so, show/refer to a quranic verse or authentic hadith that claims so...or else dont say what u dont know for sure.

  • dont moncoin...it HAS MUCH support in islam when your imams demand it be done, islamic leaders refused to let yemeni govt out law it saying it is indeed an islamic requirement

    and where does it say CIRCUMCISION IS OBLIGATORy...I have read it

    will get back to you..but DONT EVER TRY AND SAY this pagan ritual has nothing to do with islam....just as the pagan ritual is also inflicted on males

    explain WHY 100+ mill.muslim females are mutilated WITHOUT any support lol

  • It is very sad to see u being so ignorant! If ud ask me u ave an agenda of confusing ppl about islam! And I say it over and over again so you read it very clearly: Female circumcision has nothing to do with islam...I challenge you to show me one Verse in the Quran or a strong authentic hadith that supports this...instead of coming with lame arguments as "it HAS MUCH support in islam when your imams demand it be done"

  • ...sounds to me u aint even a muslim as u refer to those imams u talk about as being "my imams", then once again I have came across an ironic case where a non-muslim dictates islamic standpoints to me, a muslim . And to reassure u, if ANY imam at all supports this pagan tradition, it is very easy to rebuke him. I have personally asked scholars and every single one have rejected it. So agains, dont refer to "imams", taking the word from the thin air...

  • ...and u aint convincing anyone nor saying the truth by writing in Major letters, loud and big does not mean sound and true!

    However as I wrote earlier this pagan tradition rooted in many places, some where muslims live, but if ud know better, and u ought to...this is also practiced in many places where islam is not present, then why is it then practiced in those places? Dont do the error of "guilt by association"...Instead I seriously urge u to do some research, if u want ill give u references

  • why is this filth also practiced in other places/religions...quite simply because they too are as backward and immoral as islam and its imams

    WHY DO MUSLIMS WORLDWIDE SIT IN SILENT ACQUIESCENCE re this hideous barbarity and life long harm and deprivation to girls, yet will get VERY ACTIVE over a teddy bear

    we see such deafening silence time and time again from muslim

    to me it SHOWS you dont care about human beings..the only thing that appears to matter to a muslim is islam

  • Now proud female, I see u start to make ur point....its not about Female circumcision...its about u holding a grudge towrds islam...I have reponded to u in ur page...u go from talking about this practice to jump on all islam and muslims...if thats ur standpoint then this discussion is totally futile. Basically ur just giving ur opinion, give no references and strengthen ur arguments with even more personal views. For ur information, we are NOT silent!

  • Why do u think Im here?! Im making my voice heard and hope makin a yet small but a difference, to diminish the use of female circumcision. But maybe ur to blinded by ur prejudices and negative attitude towards islam and muslim...men

  • ...TO SEE IT!

  • moncoin...what good is your trying to 'dimish' it on utube lol

    do you think your imams LOOK at utube

    have you STOOD UP in the mosque and taught other muslims what GOES ON....I guarantee you wouldnt dare

    re not silent...we heard MUCH NOISE over a teddy bear, but little to nothing re 100+ girls mutilated or what your imams STILL TO THIS DAY DEMAND

    so your words 'are weak' and muslims SHOW by inaction that they dont care!

  • clitoris circumcision is horribly painful and disgusting. Children can not speak up. My husband forced me to circumcised when I was 24 pain was much worst than child birth much much worst.

  • khitan...and would your husband be a 'muslim male' that he is so cruel and incredibly selfish

  • haha. this video and all you haters are whack. I have nothing more to say for all you disbelievers. No matter how hard we muslims will try to argue and convince that Islam is indeed a true religion, it will eventually fall on deaf ears. I dont see any point in arguing with yall.

  • So then don,t argueFillePelt! we non muslims all know that Muhammad a mass murdering, thieving ,looting, son in law wife stealing, torturing, kiddy fiddling ,slave owning,camel piss drinking , pedophile false prophet and that Christ death on the cross is true and thats the only way to God.

  • TO THE RESPONSE TO THIS VIDEO. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ISLAM, SHOW REFERENCE..OR DON'T MISINFORM PEOPLE. SHOW A VERSE IN QUR'AN. THERE IS NO SUCH A THING IN QUR'AN. ON THE CONTRARY I CAN SHOW YOU PROOF WHILE YOU DON'T HAVE ANY....

    Circumcision

    THE CIRCUMSION IN ISLAM IS ONLY FOR MALES...NOT FEMALES.

    It is prescribed that the boy be circumcised, it is recommended that the circumcision take place o­n the seventh day, but it is obligatory to circumcise before the boy reaches puberty.

  • quranic versus are so filthy i dont want to incude them in the comments!!!!

  • AND 79...its because of wimps like you who are too scared to face truths that countless millions of muslims suffer in SO MANY HIDEOUS WAYS...all due to islam

    in time I really hope we see you who all actively support it when you are muslim are held 'jointly liable' because you COULD do something about protecting those who cant do so for themselves...but DONT - always sitting in silent acquiescence

    I look forward to the days when you too are held liable along with the DIRTY islam

  • i shall ask you again

    give me a quranic verse to prove me wrong

  • go look up where it says CUT....then tell me WHY its islamic leaders who confirm it is indeed 'right' to have girls mutilated...and why imams DEMAND IT

    you are being SHOWN UP as being quite desperate to sanitise/ignore the connection with islam...you will ALWAYS FAIL

  • Quranic verse again

    i dont see any quranic verse.

  • Muhammad (their prophet) approved of it in their Hadith. [Abu-Dawud Book 41, No. 5251] There are also numerous Hadiths of Aisha, the wife of Muhammad explaining how a bath is obligatory when "the TWO circumcised parts of a man & woman meet" Their Prophet witnessed it being practiced & gave instruction how to cut & not to cut too much, as that "is more desirable for a husband" So what ever Muhammad approved became part of Islam

  • I told you

    i want a quranic verse:)

    something which we fully believe in.

  • pedophilia is perfectly legitimate in Islamic sharia law. its Sunnah. if a 53yr man could marry a 9yr child legally i ain't even surprised that this is true.

    man how do these pedophile defenders sleep at night

    GOD IS HATE not great fukofff

  • i know being circumcised aint gone stop from shty, but i dont fucking believe wat that bitch is saying!!!grrrrrrr i hate her

  • Please people,

    I just have one request from you guys.. please don't believe anything you hear..that way people will sway your mind any where they like.. i swear what she is describing is not in Islam, but it is only part of her African culture. this is so easy to verify...just type in good and search, then come back and write your opinion. I bet none of you people that commented don't even have a college degree you wouldn't be so stupid to believe what ever you hear for the first ime.

  • harna..we do have college degrees, know the filth of islam that is so 'obsessed' with control of females by 'any means' and do know the facts

    you have 100+ muslim girls mutilated on dictates of imams, its in koran, Yemeni Govt tried to outlaw it but islamic leaders intervened to prevent it...and you THINK that PAGAN RITUALS of both male/female circumsion are not linked to islam lol

  • I can see your hate

    in all your posts

    If you are ignorant then no man in this world can explain anything to you.

    Now go cry over it.

    if it is in islam then tell me of one surah from quran which tells us to do female circumcission.

    If you give me 1 verse

    then ill shutup

    but you won't you know why

    because there is nothing in islam like this.

  • 7920...circumcision, BOTH male & female IS DEFINITELY a pagan ritual

    now tell me...WHY would an allah give a male a foreskin then COMMAND it be chopped off....I mean, it just doesnt make any sense at all does it!

    its 2009 and YOU, a muslim wimp who is too scared to think for yourself, is trying to TELL ME its not a pagan ritual lol

    find out WHY majority of indonesian girls are mutilated

    and LEARN why yemeni govt couldnt outlaw it last year DUE TO your leaders

  • Why didn't you come up with a verse??

    and why are you coming with the same argument from before.

    Get a verse from Quran which talks about the circumcision of girls.

    and then we shell talk

    without a verse from quran your argument has no value nor strong enough to win this debate.

  • They didn't give it up because Muhammad (their prophet) approved of it in their Hadith. [Abu-Dawud Book 41, No. 5251] There are also numerous Hadiths of Aisha, the wife of Muhammad explaining how a bath is obligatory when "the TWO circumcised parts of a man & woman meet" Their Prophet witnessed it being practiced & gave instruction how to cut & not to cut too much, as that "is more desirable for a husband" So what ever Muhammad approved became part of Islam. again you lose. loser!

  • I dont loose you dumbfuck.

    You wannaknow why he said that?

    first of all this is the only hadith which is strong

    all the other hadiths are weak and they were not accepted.

    Did muhammad order for circumcission in the first place?

    No he did not.

    He told the lady not to cut into it.

    This shows that how kind he was.

    You proved me wrong?

    not gonna happen in this life time

  • I gave you the Hadith, I show you how stupid sick muhammed racted to this practise. if you cant accept the deafeat after all these, I suggest you drink some camel piss as it is prescribed by crazy muhammed.

  • 79...I laughed when I read your 'he told lady not to cut..thats how KIND he was"

    was one who

    -taught males had RIGHTS to BEAT wives

    -said penalty for non belief MURDER

    -took/raped/kept slaves

    -stole

    -MURDERED innocents just because they didnt accept what he went to offer them

    -changed a very satisfactory system re adoption BECAUSE he wanted to screw his sons wife ..causing many children to be stigmatised/denied equality ...KIND

    or was he a sicko and filthy prick

    I say DIRTY prick

  • 7920...I dont keep dirty books at home but can you refute it refers to the 'cut'

    koran doesnt state MURDER for non belief either but like circumcision you CANNOT SAY it doesnt have anything to do with islam when imams teach it and people have been KILLED

    explain WHY your imams demand it be done...and the CAUSE

    I know it, but want you to 'tell us" when 100+ mill.of your girls are mutilated and YOU ALL SIT IN SILENT ACQUIESCENCE

  • Now go search in Quran all you want.

    I give you time from right now till the end of this universe.

    come with one verse:)

  • its called CUT in koran and no one has ever said it says its mandatory...BUT not all the filth re islam is in your comic book koran of course...e.g. DEATH PENALTY for non belief isnt, but people have been/are killed and its 'islamic'

    its because of people LIKE YOU who dont stand up to imams that so many girls are harmed...and for life

    HOW DO YOU SLEEP AT NIGHT

    contd

  • I am just astounded at the ignorance and cruelty in this world...Believe in Allah, God or whoever but to me, all religions are MENs religions; created by them, to support their desires and to deny those of others...sad but true...

  • Ayaan Hirsi Ali is incredible. I have no words to describe how abhorrent I find female circumcision - the clitoris has 8000 nerve endings and they do this without anaesthetic! It's laughable that people claim Islam doesn't lead to misogyny. These men hate the idea of a woman having an organ whose only purpose is pleasure. I know there are plenty of good and kind Muslim men out there, but it's surprising given what they're taught to believe is right.

  • This is a culture but its not part of the religion Islam

  • purleeze 7920..both male/female circumcision ARE pagan rituals

    but it IS part of islam when

    -its in koran

    -over 100 mill.muslim girls mutilated

    -imans teach/demand it saying an intact girl is a 'disgrace'

    -islam supports the CONTROL/OWNERSHIP of females

    -when Yemeni Govt tried to outlaw it just last year your muslim leaders intervened to prevent law being passed, saying it is indeed an islamic 'requirement'

    AND YOU ALL SIT IN SILENCE, as usual

  • you know that there is so many traditions which are taking place even now a days, People get confused if its a religion or not.

    If every1 follows islam then there would be no shit like this.

    And i cannot speak on behalf of all muslims.

    Even quran tells us that muslims who do bad things in name of islam will go straight to hell.

  • come on...dont be so idiotic and gullible

    there is this shit and plenty more as a PROVABLY DIRECT RESULT OF ISLAM

    koran has zilch credibility of course...and WHY DO YOU MUSLIMS ALWAYS SIT IN SILENT ACQUIESCENCE with obscenities muslims inflict on muslims

    deal with it NOW...dont spew the 'hell' nonsense

    you ALL SHOW you dont give a shit about human beings...its very very EVIDENT

    this junk COULD BE STOPPED OVERNIGHT

    contd

  • islam is sick to the core..incredibly evil...and has a real problem with females/coupled with very insecure males

    WHY DONT MUSLIMS show they care about these girsl by

    -having the imams rounded up

    -held down by force

    -having the entire head of their pitiful dicks chopped off without anaesthesia

    -have it stitched to the thigh so they can still pee

    -then told 'its for their own good'

    YOU PEOPLE COULD HAVE IT STOPPED OVERNIGHT...but you SIT IN SILENCE

  • are you okayy?

    I explained everything to you and you still ask me stupid things.

    you dumb bitch dont you get it

    i need to make this clear to you.

    Circumcising woman is not in Islam.

    Circumcising boy is not from pagan. It's from sew religion and Islam religion. but female circumcisation is no where in islam. It's a fucking culture which is in their blood. There is nothing like this in asia where there is more Muslims.

  • you explain NOTHING in your attempts to excuse what goes on in your ummah

    ALL CIRCUMCISION is a PAGAN ritual....so WHY are you so ignorant

    fgm IS in your koran...and imams (islamically appointed leaders) demand it be done...so dont give me crap that its re culture when its in SO MANY muslim countries

    and look at harna...quite desperate to ignore the truths...blaming such on African culture

    WHY would allah make you with a foreskin...do you ever THINK for yourself

  • MORE DISHONESTy from you re asia...indonesia is the largest muslim country in the world...and LEARN how many are 'mutilated' there and squirm with shame when you learn WHY....islam is SO VERY VERY DIRTY that people can be so backward they will cause such harm to innocents

    yep..."it allows this dirty allah to hear their prayers better'

    yuk yuk yuk....what a disgusting cult

  • Sometimes it is hard to believe that all human beings actually live on the same planet..

  • Once again you're ranting instead of replying clearly, give me the exact surat in kuran that prescribes fgm so that I and others can refer to it.

    CTW, We are sunni and do not believe in the hadith, for us the kuran is the only holy book.

    FYI I'm an "intact" girl like all the other girls I know, and I"ve never heard our imams calling us impure. I'm against such barbaric pagan practice and those who mutilates little girls should be punished severly.

  • i dont keep koran at home -its referred to as the CUT

    it staggers me that muslims DONT KNOWthe extent of this practice with100 mill.girlsmutilated ANDits due to imams who are so fearful of females not being kept controlled!

    AND WHEN do muslims ever speak up or out against imams ....NEVER

    its time you as a muslim female got angry enough to LET YOUR MUSLIM WORLD KNOW

    yes, they claim an 'intact girl a disgrace" (such is their weakness/brainwashing due to islam) and in Egypt its hideous

  • I just put up a video of the Founder of an Islamic Television station ... yes he beheaded his own wife according to the Koran. Please explain this.

  • Ayaan Hirsi is doing all of this just to get money

  • gunman...WHO gives her money, and do you think she exposes the filth of islam

    1.because she cares about its victims

    2.or she WANTS death threats

  • Ayaan Hirsi dont know anything about islam.

    it doesnt stand anything abour female circumcisiun in the Quran.

    The prophet Muhammad(scw) saw women circumcision their daughters, and he said to them'' don't sew their gender, and be very careful''

  • wrong chiho..its WHY she knows so much about islam that (a) no one can refute/argue with the truths she speaks and (b) they want her dead for speaking out

    when its in koran and imams teach that an intact girl is a disgrace, blame the cause...islam

    and remember both male /female circumcision ARE PAGAN RITUALS

    so why would allah give a male a foreskin them command it be chopped off lol

  • Stop spreading lies, it's not a muslim practice.

    My family is from Algeria and this is unknown there.

  • whatsin...when 100 muslim girls are so mutilated on dictates of imams who state an intact girl is a disgrace, and when its in koran ...dont say its not a muslim practice

    actually both male &female circumcision are PAGAN rituals...so allah decided on a pagan ritual eh

    learn what happened recently when yemeni govt tried to outlaw this barbarity and WHY islamic leaders prevented the law being passed...and squirm with shame

  • As I said before, this practice is mentioned nowhere in the Koran, or you'll have to show me a surat, and most Sunni do not follow the ha